bboy87 said:

We had to deal with it for 20 years, it'll never stop. I keep wondering "when is anything going to be clear?" You're left with a lot of questions than answers.
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missfee said:

and they have every right to recoup their investment with any assets available to them.

which is why this film is being put out.

what's the problem?

Timmy84 said:

Which is why I'm avoiding all these debates about how he passed. We don't know the full story, and people are simply throwing around opinions which is useless

bboy87 said:

Yeah I got sunked into that shit. Fuck that shit for now. We don't know shit yet.

errant said:

exactly. and I love MJ but
this is a bidness; you're not too far gone to see that

errant said:

the problem is that the man hasn't even been buried yet, and they trying to "recoup" as you put it, their investment back by putting out a film of his rehearsals??? If that doesn't seem strange or the least bit, insensitive to you, then I guess there are more senseless people in this world than I thought. How would you feel if you had a close relative who just lost their life, and then the company that invested in their so called performances are trying to scoop up the money that they lost by scraping together some scattered rehearsal recordings to profit off of? So you wouldn't care at all? That's just not right from either a personal or business perspective. But if you feel that what the company is doing is right, then thats your opinion.

Cinnie said:

whatever. I bet you wouldn't feel that way if this was someone close to you that you loved. It's easier to talk from that perspective when you could care less. People sing a different tune when it happens to them.

missfee said:

I can only imagine what Katherine is saying at home about AEG. Having to bite your tongue and let things play out in court is not easy.

Evvy said:

exactly. And its looking like Katherine, Janet, and Rebbie are about the only "sane" ones in the family at this point. Everybody else is making money off of interviews (Joe), maybe or maybe not making reality show deals (the brothers), or agreeing to co-host talk shows (LaToya). Sad.

missfee said:

it isn't AEG's or Sony's fault that MJ isn't buried. they have nothing to do with that and that has nothing to do with them. and supposedly he's being buried this weekend, so by the time this is released, he'll be in the ground.

and I'm not really sure what your point is about if this was my relative who died, etc. We aren't his relatives. Let's let HIS relatives worry about that. If they want to complain about it, then that's their business. If they don't, then that's their business too. Have they said anything?

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missfee said:

They've been working on trying to do a reality show for some time though


Tito's sons were shopping one around to European networks back in 2006, Tito and the brothers were filming one in the UK but problems arose


and this one has been in the works since 2007 or 2008. I heard about it awhile ago



....and let's not forget the 2 reality shows Joe filmed that never got aired

errant said:

what i was saying smart ass is if you put yourself in the shoes of his relatives and how they would feel in the situation. Just fuck it, obviously you could care less either way, so if you choose to be a dumb ass about the situation then oh well. You choose to be ignorant, I don't. I'm done talking about it with you.
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bboy87 said:

I wonder if anybody would watch, lol

Timmy84 said:

Well we do know that some idiot will.

Timmy84 said:

The one with the brothers I heard about before MJ died that show I did have interest in and I was shocked I did because I don't care about his brothers but I do like Marlon

missfee said:

Timmy84 said:

Timmy's watching

babybugz said:

The LAST thing I wanna see is Jermaine's blue magic hair and Joe's shifty eyes.
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Timmy84 said:

I'm not watching THIS IS IT though that's a fact

babybugz said:

Well I co-sign.

Fuck them both with a chainsaw.
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Timmy84 said:

missfee said:

you're absolutely right. i don't care one way or the other. it's his family's business how they react or feel about it. not mine. i'm going to see it.

i was just saying that it's pretty idiotic for his fans to try to pin the blame for his death on AEG working him to death. i mean, i understand it. they're grieving and that often involves misplaced anger and blame.

now that he's dead, AEG have to find a way to recoup their losses. that's business. that's life.

Despite the motivations being wrong = money, greed etc and even tho',
I'm in the 50/50 split that says he looked frail and worn out, I'll be lining up to see it, it's the last chance I'll get to see a large piece of my childhood one last time, for better or worse.

In many ways, MJ was never the same after the BAD TOUR of the late 80s - that was his prime, THIS IS IT won't be, but I know that going in.

Timmy84 said:

HA!

bboy87 said:

Yeah.

From smooth_criminal05 on MJJC:

I have some news about the movie guys, just revealed to me by a source working closely on the movie. I can't give his name due to privacy but I can confirm it is 100% legit. There is some great stuff here, here is what I know:

1) Trailers are mostly done, and were waiting partly on the footage from the funeral which is being added in now. Expect to see the first ad premiere next weekend. I tried to press him on more info regarding the VMA's but couldn't get a confirmation.

2) The movie is not a 2 hour concert like many fans thought. In fact the movie is simply a documentary based around the This Is It tour, it shows Jackson in his final days and includes his death, aftermath, and reaction. Clips from the memorial and funeral will be used.

3) There will be some footage of MJ performing, much longer then the 3-4 minute snippet released at the end of June by AEG. You will see MJ in his dressing room, mingling and directing, plus one scene where he talks to the camera. Basically, it will show Jackson in his final months alive.

4) The movie is between 100 and 130 minutes in length.

5) The plan for the DVD is to have it out in late November by Thanksgiving or early December at the latest, although my source revealed this maybe a long shot if they extend the 2 week showing to 3 or 4 weeks (which is possible).

6) The DVD will contain the theatrical version in its whole plus over 2 hours of Jackson performing, warming up his vocals, singing, and in full costume. The most spectacular footage is by far from the Staples Center in LA which I'm told will "blow fans away". This extra footage will be a special feature on the DVD along with many other treats that fans will love.

7) Finally, the CD soundtrack I'm told will be released after the movie, most likely sometime in November to coincide with the DVD launch and WILL include a new song Jackson recorded in his last 2 years alive. Apparently the song is "off the hook" and is currently being worked on by producers who are putting the finishing touches on it and is being considered to be issued as a single all around the world.

CRAP do they have to include the aftermath with he memorial and FUNERAL

the dvd sounds good i can't wait to get that.

babybugz said:

Nope! I'll wait for the DVD.

It is just a money-grabber--just part of the reason I have no interest.

mookie said:

This better be true, dammit!

Sounds great. I didn't expect it to be 2 hours of him performing, but there were mixed reports that it would focus mostly on the This Is It shows or if it was going to be a True Hollywood-esque documentary. I don't want to sit through Jackson's entire life with only a few minutes of the making of This Is It. If it's a bunch of stuff like the dancers, production, the stages, etc. with interviews and footage of Jackson producing, directing and performing, that's exactly what I hope to see.

Really looking forward to this.

For those thinking this is just milking Jackson... maybe it is, but it wouldn't matter if he died recently or if he died at the age of 104, people will make money off of the situation. I don't find it to be that big of a deal, he's got an estate, children who could use the money and charities that the money will go to.