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2. As good as Beyonce is (and I say "good" loosely), anyone (including yourself) that dares to put her in the same sentence as Tina Turner, Patti LeBelle, Aretha Franklin, OR Chaka Khan really and truly needs to be ashame of themselves. Seriously!  No one that came out from the 90s to the present should ever be mentioned in the same sentence as Frankie Smith. At least he had the talent to know good sounding music to use behind what he did. 
3. As for Beyonce being the best of her generation of female artists, you AND BlaqueKnight are both correct. Why? Because Beyonce does NOT have any real rivals in her generation.
But being a turd in a toilet full of diarrhea still doesn't change the fact that it's all shit. You can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig. So being the best of nothing still amounts to nothing. As Billy Preston used to sing....."Nothing from nothing means nothing. You gotta have something, if you wanna be with me".
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Imago said: 1.That video is reminding me of someone here but I can't think of who 
2. His ding-a-ling went flip flopping out the creases of his leotard
3. I can stand it when people don't clean up their nasty ass rooms before they start taking random ass pics or filming these videos  | |
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Ottensen said: Imago said: 1.That video is reminding me of someone here but I can't think of who
2. His ding-a-ling went flip flopping out the creases of his leotard
3. I can stand it when people don't clean up their nasty ass rooms before they start taking random ass pics or filming these videos   | |
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Calluout said: Do you think Prince would have not performed with Beyonce at the Grammy's if he knew the truth about her?
It's a known fact that she has all her songs ghostwritten for her and changes one letter to receive publishing then claims she wrote them herself. Also her father is one of the sneakiest snakes in the music business, much worse than Prince's old labels, and dont get me started on her husband Jay-Z. I don't think Prince would've performed with her if he knew more about her and her fathers sneaky tactics, but because he probably doesn't pay attention to crappy pop music he wouldn't have realised. Now Bey is performing "The Beautiful Ones" on her new tour and I think it's a disgrace because she represents everything that Prince is not. She's just another Britney, but people think she is a real artist just because she can SANG. Prince should stick to supporting talented female artists like Alicia Keys. Prince himself has does this same ish. The entertainment business is dog eat dog, get over it. | |
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TonyVanDam said: babynoz said: Woulda, coulda, shoulda...and yet he chose Beyonce, didn't he? Go out right now and ask 10 non-orgers which performance they remember seeing, him with Beyonce at the Grammys or the RRHOF? The point is that HE felt it was good exposure AND IT WORKED. You suggest Christina, but to that I say six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Whatever you think of Bey you know darn well that she can out-sing all of his proteges put together with one vocal chord tied behind her back with the possible exception of Tamar. He never quite completed his mentoring of either Shelby or Rosie Gaines by releasing an album like he did with Vanity, Carmen and Ingrid, for example and don't forget that people like Chaka Kahn, Patti LaBelle and Mavis Staples were NEVER his proteges to begin with. I don't get what makes y'all think that Prince has such high musical standards when it comes to some of the chicks he has worked with...you must be enjoying the hell out of Elixer. 1. I never brought another Prince album since 3121. But you're more than welcome to tell me what it feels like to waste your money on Planet Earth & Elixer like you have this decade.
2. As good as Beyonce is (and I say "good" loosely), anyone (including yourself) that dares to put her in the same sentence as Tina Turner, Patti LeBelle, Aretha Franklin, OR Chaka Khan really and truly needs to be ashame of themselves. Seriously!
3. As for Beyonce being the best of her generation of female artists, you AND BlaqueKnight are both correct. Why? Because Beyonce does NOT have any real rivals in her generation. ---Christina can compete in singing, but not dancing. ---Britney can't sing at all and her dancing ability has decline. ---Rhianna is basically a poor man's Beyonce. Sad but true. ---Shakira can compete in dancing, but she sing like a lamb! 
---Nicole is more sucessful as leader of the PCD than as a solo artist. ---Jessica is more successful at reality TV than her music. ---Ashlee can't lip-synch worth a damn, never mind sing!
---Miley couldn't get anywhere close to Beyonce-type success until her Disney-pop days are finally over (and yes, she can't sing neither). People and critics alike can make every positive and/or negative comment about Whitney/Mariah/Madonna/Janet all they want. At least those 4 artists know among themselves that they are great rivals within their generation. Beyonce doesn't have that kind of situation within her younger generation AND that is a great reason why I should NEVER be force to give her too much credit to begin with. End of. What's up with you going all the way to west hell and back and rambling all over the place...did you even read what I said??? First of all, neither 3121 or Planet Earth are protege albums so that statement is irrelevant to this thread. Pay attention this time. I did NOT say anything about Beyonce out-singing Patti, Mavis or Chaka. What I said was that she can out-sing the PROTEGES that Prince has released albums for such as Carmen, Vanity or Ingrid. PRO-TE-GES...get it? 2. Show me where the hell I said anything about Beyonce being the best of her generation??? I said that she was popular and that she can sing...that's the only credit I gave her, period. I have no idea why you're pulling all these other names out of your ass that I never mentioned. Try responding to what is actually written and stop trying to get creative with other people's words. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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TonyVanDam said: babynoz said: Woulda, coulda, shoulda...and yet he chose Beyonce, didn't he? Go out right now and ask 10 non-orgers which performance they remember seeing, him with Beyonce at the Grammys or the RRHOF? The point is that HE felt it was good exposure AND IT WORKED. You suggest Christina, but to that I say six of one, half a dozen of the other.
Whatever you think of Bey you know darn well that she can out-sing all of his proteges put together with one vocal chord tied behind her back with the possible exception of Tamar. He never quite completed his mentoring of either Shelby or Rosie Gaines by releasing an album like he did with Vanity, Carmen and Ingrid, for example and don't forget that people like Chaka Kahn, Patti LaBelle and Mavis Staples were NEVER his proteges to begin with. I don't get what makes y'all think that Prince has such high musical standards when it comes to some of the chicks he has worked with...you must be enjoying the hell out of Elixer. 1. I never brought another Prince album since 3121. But you're more than welcome to tell me what it feels like to waste your money on Planet Earth & Elixer like you have this decade.
2. As good as Beyonce is (and I say "good" loosely), anyone (including yourself) that dares to put her in the same sentence as Tina Turner, Patti LeBelle, Aretha Franklin, OR Chaka Khan really and truly needs to be ashame of themselves. Seriously!
3. As for Beyonce being the best of her generation of female artists, you AND BlaqueKnight are both correct. Why? Because Beyonce does NOT have any real rivals in her generation. ---Christina can compete in singing, but not dancing. ---Britney can't sing at all and her dancing ability has decline. ---Rhianna is basically a poor man's Beyonce. Sad but true. ---Shakira can compete in dancing, but she sing like a lamb!
---Nicole is more sucessful as leader of the PCD than as a solo artist. ---Jessica is more successful at reality TV than her music. ---Ashlee can't lip-synch worth a damn, never mind sing!
---Miley couldn't get anywhere close to Beyonce-type success until her Disney-pop days are finally over (and yes, she can't sing neither). People and critics alike can make every positive and/or negative comment about Whitney/Mariah/Madonna/Janet all they want. At least those 4 artists know among themselves that they are great rivals within their generation. Beyonce doesn't have that kind of situation within her younger generation AND that is a great reason why I should NEVER be force to give her too much credit to begin with. End of. EXACTLY people talk about these times as being COMPETITIVE....are U kidding me, where is the comp between Rihanna, Ciara and Beyonce??? Compare that with the likes of these cats comepetiting and Putting out cds at the same time....George Michael,Bruce Springsteen,Michael Jackson,Prince and Madonna all had cds out at the same exact time....not like now when the SUITS space this shit so far apart because the PRIMADONNA public cant handle more than one cd at a time. "We went where our music was appreciated, and that was everywhere but the USA, we knew we had fans, but there is only so much of the world you can play at once" Magne F | |
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She's a vapid opportunits. That's right up his alley! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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Chic35 said: Calluout said: Do you think Prince would have not performed with Beyonce at the Grammy's if he knew the truth about her?
It's a known fact that she has all her songs ghostwritten for her and changes one letter to receive publishing then claims she wrote them herself. Also her father is one of the sneakiest snakes in the music business, much worse than Prince's old labels, and dont get me started on her husband Jay-Z. I don't think Prince would've performed with her if he knew more about her and her fathers sneaky tactics, but because he probably doesn't pay attention to crappy pop music he wouldn't have realised. Now Bey is performing "The Beautiful Ones" on her new tour and I think it's a disgrace because she represents everything that Prince is not. She's just another Britney, but people think she is a real artist just because she can SANG. Prince should stick to supporting talented female artists like Alicia Keys. It's a known fact that she has all her songs ghostwritten for her and changes one letter to receive publishing then claims she wrote them herself. Also her father is one of the sneakiest snakes in the music business, much worse than Prince's old labels, and dont get me started on her husband Jay-Z. Wow the nerve of you puttin Beyonce's secret to success out there! This issue surfaced but died out pretty soon because her fixers swashed that, and it fell by the wayside. I heard she is short changing her fixers and bad rumors are leaking about Matthew Knowles having a threesome and getting a female pregnant. Mrs Jayonce is NOT happy about it either! 
Maybe that is how Jayonce keeps the hits coming! I believe if Prince knew this broad wasn't genuine he would not have worked with her.
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CALLUOUT... you're an idiot.
Prince is a sinister business man himself - ask your other org nerd friends who purchased memberships to LotusFlower.com. Money for nothing. He took off with Clive Davis' money during Rave. He's also a sellout - just ask us fans who cringed when he finally showed up on American Idol to promote 3121 and still sold less than 6,000 copies of the album by the following Tuesday. And if you think Prince's decision to perform with Beyonce wasn't calculated, think again. He was in the process of rebranding the 'Prince' brand back in 2004. He used her star power to remind people that he still existed. Get your head out of Prince's ass and quit embarassing us fans who love the music and what it all was worth. Choosing Alicia Keyes as an example of a female artist Prince should work with also illustrates just how much you don't know. MORON!!! I called U out. | |
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Calluout, I saw you a few days ago introducing yourself as a new orger. Are you still wondering if we are as mean as the folks on the Janet Jackson boards?
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jayARDAHB said: CALLUOUT... you're an idiot.
Prince is a sinister business man himself - ask your other org nerd friends who purchased memberships to LotusFlower.com. Money for nothing. He took off with Clive Davis' money during Rave. He's also a sellout - just ask us fans who cringed when he finally showed up on American Idol to promote 3121 and still sold less than 6,000 copies of the album by the following Tuesday. And if you think Prince's decision to perform with Beyonce wasn't calculated, think again. He was in the process of rebranding the 'Prince' brand back in 2004. He used her star power to remind people that he still existed. Get your head out of Prince's ass and quit embarassing us fans who love the music and what it all was worth. Choosing Alicia Keyes as an example of a female artist Prince should work with also illustrates just how much you don't know. MORON!!! I called U out. Um exactly that's why I asked the question. I'm NEW here so obviously I don't know everything little detail of Prince's life and career. There's no need to be such a fucking cunt about it. And I know Prince used to ghost write people etc, but I thought maybe he had changed now that he's older. I wasn't born with the encyclopaedia of Prince burned into my brain. Maybe that's why I joined this forum in the first place, to learn more about him and his career? Only a miserable, negative, self obsessed pig would have an attitude like yours. You need to get a life. If you act like this on a simple music forum I can't imagine what a nightmare you must be to deal with in real life. | |
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What a hot mess this thread has become. That's why they call this place prince.org.
As for Prince selling out, that's not selling out at all, it's called playing the game, which is something I've always wanted Prince to do so that he could get his name out there in the pop culture radar. I was excited as hell when he did the Grammy's with Beyonce cause that meant that he was going to have his name back in people's mouths where it belonged. I was happy he did American Idol so that the youth could see a REAL ICON at work. In fact, Prince needs to do more of these type of things in the future so that he can keep on "selling out" them arenas. OOOWWWAAA!!! I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Calluout said: jayARDAHB said: CALLUOUT... you're an idiot.
Prince is a sinister business man himself - ask your other org nerd friends who purchased memberships to LotusFlower.com. Money for nothing. He took off with Clive Davis' money during Rave. He's also a sellout - just ask us fans who cringed when he finally showed up on American Idol to promote 3121 and still sold less than 6,000 copies of the album by the following Tuesday. And if you think Prince's decision to perform with Beyonce wasn't calculated, think again. He was in the process of rebranding the 'Prince' brand back in 2004. He used her star power to remind people that he still existed. Get your head out of Prince's ass and quit embarassing us fans who love the music and what it all was worth. Choosing Alicia Keyes as an example of a female artist Prince should work with also illustrates just how much you don't know. MORON!!! I called U out. Um exactly that's why I asked the question. I'm NEW here so obviously I don't know everything little detail of Prince's life and career. There's no need to be such a fucking cunt about it. And I know Prince used to ghost write people etc, but I thought maybe he had changed now that he's older. I wasn't born with the encyclopaedia of Prince burned into my brain. Maybe that's why I joined this forum in the first place, to learn more about him and his career? Only a miserable, negative, self obsessed pig would have an attitude like yours. You need to get a life. If you act like this on a simple music forum I can't imagine what a nightmare you must be to deal with in real life. Okay little boy... try asking questions rather than making silly statements. I'm certain the response you receive from the folks on this board will be much kinder. All in all, you've demonstrated that you don't have a clue. Fortunately, you're at the ORG and you've got company. | |
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Calluout said: Yeah it's absurd when people say BeYawnce can't sing. She can definitely OUT SANG most of the chicks out today. She has a fantastic voice. It's everything else that's the problem
And Vanity was amazing. She was magnetic, her personality was so unique and her music was great. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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jayARDAHB said: Calluout said: Um exactly that's why I asked the question. I'm NEW here so obviously I don't know everything little detail of Prince's life and career. There's no need to be such a fucking cunt about it. And I know Prince used to ghost write people etc, but I thought maybe he had changed now that he's older. I wasn't born with the encyclopaedia of Prince burned into my brain. Maybe that's why I joined this forum in the first place, to learn more about him and his career? Only a miserable, negative, self obsessed pig would have an attitude like yours. You need to get a life. If you act like this on a simple music forum I can't imagine what a nightmare you must be to deal with in real life. Okay little boy... try asking questions rather than making silly statements. I'm certain the response you receive from the folks on this board will be much kinder. All in all, you've demonstrated that you don't have a clue. Fortunately, you're at the ORG and you've got company. And you've demonstrated what a sad pathetic prick you are so I guess we're even. | |
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purplecam said: What a hot mess this thread has become. That's why they call this place prince.org.
As for Prince selling out, that's not selling out at all, it's called playing the game, which is something I've always wanted Prince to do so that he could get his name out there in the pop culture radar. I was excited as hell when he did the Grammy's with Beyonce cause that meant that he was going to have his name back in people's mouths where it belonged. I was happy he did American Idol so that the youth could see a REAL ICON at work. In fact, Prince needs to do more of these type of things in the future so that he can keep on "selling out" them arenas. OOOWWWAAA!!!
Those heels ain't gonna buy themselves, dammit! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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jayARDAHB said: CALLUOUT... you're an idiot.
Prince is a sinister business man himself - ask your other org nerd friends who purchased memberships to LotusFlower.com. Money for nothing. He took off with Clive Davis' money during Rave. He's also a sellout - just ask us fans who cringed when he finally showed up on American Idol to promote 3121 and still sold less than 6,000 copies of the album by the following Tuesday. And if you think Prince's decision to perform with Beyonce wasn't calculated, think again. He was in the process of rebranding the 'Prince' brand back in 2004. He used her star power to remind people that he still existed. Get your head out of Prince's ass and quit embarassing us fans who love the music and what it all was worth. Choosing Alicia Keyes as an example of a female artist Prince should work with also illustrates just how much you don't know. MORON!!! I called U out. i do agree that some prince fans on here have their head up prince's ass. Kinda scary over there on Prince discussion. | |
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WaterInYourBath said: Calluout said: Yeah it's absurd when people say BeYawnce can't sing. She can definitely OUT SANG most of the chicks out today. She has a fantastic voice. It's everything else that's the problem And Vanity was amazing. She was magnetic, her personality was so unique and her music was great. :lol: Vanity is my girl and a bag of pearls BUT.... surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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Calluout said: Do you think Prince would have not performed with Beyonce at the Grammy's if he knew the truth about her?
It's a known fact that she has all her songs ghostwritten for her and changes one letter to receive publishing then claims she wrote them herself. Also her father is one of the sneakiest snakes in the music business, much worse than Prince's old labels, and dont get me started on her husband Jay-Z. I don't think Prince would've performed with her if he knew more about her and her fathers sneaky tactics, but because he probably doesn't pay attention to crappy pop music he wouldn't have realised. Now Bey is performing "The Beautiful Ones" on her new tour and I think it's a disgrace because she represents everything that Prince is not. She's just another Britney, but people think she is a real artist just because she can SANG. Prince should stick to supporting talented female artists like Alicia Keys. I'm a Prince fan like the next Orger....But this^^^ type of stuff is why folks think some Prince fans are delusional.... | |
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.... [Edited 8/12/09 21:44pm] surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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Calluout said: jayARDAHB said: Okay little boy... try asking questions rather than making silly statements. I'm certain the response you receive from the folks on this board will be much kinder. All in all, you've demonstrated that you don't have a clue. Fortunately, you're at the ORG and you've got company. And you've demonstrated what a sad pathetic prick you are so I guess we're even. "Be glad for what you had baby, what you've got..." | |
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Calluout said: jayARDAHB said: CALLUOUT... you're an idiot.
Prince is a sinister business man himself - ask your other org nerd friends who purchased memberships to LotusFlower.com. Money for nothing. He took off with Clive Davis' money during Rave. He's also a sellout - just ask us fans who cringed when he finally showed up on American Idol to promote 3121 and still sold less than 6,000 copies of the album by the following Tuesday. And if you think Prince's decision to perform with Beyonce wasn't calculated, think again. He was in the process of rebranding the 'Prince' brand back in 2004. He used her star power to remind people that he still existed. Get your head out of Prince's ass and quit embarassing us fans who love the music and what it all was worth. Choosing Alicia Keyes as an example of a female artist Prince should work with also illustrates just how much you don't know. MORON!!! I called U out. Um exactly that's why I asked the question. I'm NEW here so obviously I don't know everything little detail of Prince's life and career. There's no need to be such a fucking cunt about it. And I know Prince used to ghost write people etc, but I thought maybe he had changed now that he's older. I wasn't born with the encyclopaedia of Prince burned into my brain. Maybe that's why I joined this forum in the first place, to learn more about him and his career? Only a miserable, negative, self obsessed pig would have an attitude like yours. You need to get a life. If you act like this on a simple music forum I can't imagine what a nightmare you must be to deal with in real life. Aaaaah, you've had your first fallout, and you've photowhored....I'd say you're pretty much org family now. Welcome to the circus   ! | |
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jayARDAHB said: CALLUOUT... you're an idiot.
Prince is a sinister business man himself - ask your other org nerd friends who purchased memberships to LotusFlower.com. Money for nothing. He took off with Clive Davis' money during Rave. He's also a sellout - just ask us fans who cringed when he finally showed up on American Idol to promote 3121 and still sold less than 6,000 copies of the album by the following Tuesday. And if you think Prince's decision to perform with Beyonce wasn't calculated, think again. He was in the process of rebranding the 'Prince' brand back in 2004. He used her star power to remind people that he still existed. Get your head out of Prince's ass and quit embarassing us fans who love the music and what it all was worth. Choosing Alicia Keyes as an example of a female artist Prince should work with also illustrates just how much you don't know. MORON!!! I called U out. You didn't just call him out, you outright insulted him. You had some good points right until you started flaming with the name calling. You might remember that's totally against forum rules  [Edited 8/12/09 23:55pm] | |
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purplecam said: What a hot mess this thread has become. That's why they call this place prince.org.
As for Prince selling out, that's not selling out at all, it's called playing the game, which is something I've always wanted Prince to do so that he could get his name out there in the pop culture radar. I was excited as hell when he did the Grammy's with Beyonce cause that meant that he was going to have his name back in people's mouths where it belonged. I was happy he did American Idol so that the youth could see a REAL ICON at work. In fact, Prince needs to do more of these type of things in the future so that he can keep on "selling out" them arenas. OOOWWWAAA!!! If this were the late 80s back when Prince had changed his style and was making artsy/fartsy stuff and was becoming less mainstream, I would agree with you because I wanted him making current sounding stuff at the time and I didn't want his name fading away like it was. However, that was then and this is now. Back then, pop culture was good. Nowadays, it's a bunch of dull ass shit hop bullshit and the last thing I want is Prince's name all over their lips. It's not like Prince is going to change them. It's more like, they are going to change Prince. And I already see it happening with bullshit songs like "Mr. Goodnight" and "Valentina" which sound like they were recorded to please the dull ass mainstream who already has thousands of shitty artists to listen to. Leave Prince for us who still like to throwdown because when he turns into bullshit, we won't have anyone left. As for them seeing a real icon at work, they don't care. They'd much rather listen to something dull so why should he even waste his time on them and possible risk being tempted to record their dull type of music in order to make some big money. They don't care anything about good music and since they don't, I say fuck 'em. . . . [Edited 8/13/09 0:22am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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At least she doesn't have a song like "The Best" in her songbook. | |
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Calluout said: because she can SANG.
When did this happen???? "It's not nice to fuck with K.B.! All you haters will see!" - Kitbradley
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kitbradley said: Calluout said: because she can SANG.
When did this happen???? Do you mean Beyonce? I can't stand Bey's fake ass but it's absurd when people act like she can't sing. She has an amazing voice. | |
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