TonyVanDam said:

That i know but PRINCE, though i love him, has a very short span of attention and patience, he tends to, and we know this for fact, ditch, people like Rosie Gaines, in favor of Carmen Electra, ditch Marva Hicks for the TWINZ so though Prince at times has a good eye for talent and has had great bands at times, he also is a man that has a keen eye for the ladies and getting laid, hence, Carmen,Vanity,Apollonia,Sheena,Susannah,Mayte etc...

BlaqueKnight said:

So peeps should SAY NOTHING when Britney and Prince do something together because he has worked with far lesser talents. As i said before, Prince can always put out a good band, except this current lineup and the Revolution, were not what people made them to be, i think people on here have given way too much cred to the likes of Vanity and Apollonia and even Shelia E, i mean shit she can play, but thats where it should stop, so it kills me when someone posts something about Britney or Christina and then praises Vanity, are u kidding me.

She is the most useless person that Prince has ever worked with. She can't sing, she can't rap, she can't act, she can't do anything. With Tony M., I can at least see Prince keeping him around because he looks like he's got some good dick, but what the hell does she have to offer?

Rosanne would have been a better choice also. At least it would have been a comedy act so some form of entertainment would have taken place. And even Rosanne has something that makes her better than Beyonce....she's not shit hop.

lastdecember said:

I did not say that. Don't put fonts in my posts.

lastdecember said:

Vanity gets praised more for her look and style than anything. Vanity was a personality. She was nowhere near the singer Christina is and neither is Britney. Britney was pure product from day one, by the way.
Even Stevie Wonder has done duets with some questionable "talents" but that certainly doesn't detract from who he is. The difference is that Prince fanbots have him on this pedestal. These fans think that they have the right to deem who's worthy and who's not. Prince ain't no better than nobody else. He's just another dude who does music.

Ummm, Beyonce has a pretty face, nice body, dances her ass off, and can actually sing. I'm pretty sure that was all Prince saw when he agreed to duet with her. Prince hasn't exactly been big on going after average looking girls with high IQs in his career....at least not any that I've seen. He supposedly told Beyonce how important it was to learn how to play an instrument during those Grammy rehearsals. Of course, Beyonce will probably never take his advice, because she can't sit behind a piano and do the 'Put a ring on it' dance at the same time. Plus, holding a guitar and dancing at the same time can also be quite a big challenge. Prince used Beyonce for the same reasons that Usher, Justin Timberlake, Jay-Z, and several other artists (besides Luther that is) used her. She's pretty and can actually sing...end of story.

If she had been ugly with a outstanding voice, I doubt anyone would be paying much attention to her, because image is the most important factor to lots of people unfortunately. Plus, Prince has written songs for most of the 'chicks' that he's had in his career, so he probably wouldn't care either way. I still think he should have performed with Christina Aguilera because she can sing just as good as Beyonce and she's his height so it would have been cute. Just my

Yeah it's absurd when people say BeYawnce can't sing. She can definitely OUT SANG most of the chicks out today. She has a fantastic voice. It's everything else that's the problem

And Vanity was amazing. She was magnetic, her personality was so unique and her music was great.

TonyVanDam said:

Woulda, coulda, shoulda...and yet he chose Beyonce, didn't he? Go out right now and ask 10 non-orgers which performance they remember seeing, him with Beyonce at the Grammys or the RRHOF? The point is that HE felt it was good exposure AND IT WORKED. You suggest Christina, but to that I say six of one, half a dozen of the other.

Whatever you think of Bey you know darn well that she can out-sing all of his proteges put together with one vocal chord tied behind her back with the possible exception of Tamar. He never quite completed his mentoring of either Shelby or Rosie Gaines by releasing an album like he did with Vanity, Carmen and Ingrid, for example and don't forget that people like Chaka Kahn, Patti LaBelle and Mavis Staples were NEVER his proteges to begin with.

I don't get what makes y'all think that Prince has such high musical standards when it comes to some of the chicks he has worked with...you must be enjoying the hell out of Elixer.

I like Kelis more then Beyonce hell even Rihanna the same way I like Donna Summer more then Diana Ross. I guess it's the edgyness of there music. Yes Beyonce can sing but it's not good enough to hide the fact her music is somewhat below average.

Janet can't sing well but she has a way of making good music along with Madonna.

When people fight to the death to try and make Beyonce look more then a Commercial RnB Singer it's really funny to me. I guess with peers like wait who are her peers?
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Flowerpower said:

Kelis is one of the best and most underrated mainstream females out. Same with Amerie.

Calluout said:

I'm not a big fan of Amerie but I agreed with you on Kelis.

Imago said:

LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THAT'S DUDE'S PACKAGE!! Or uh...is that just extra belly fat? oh well....cheers to his chubby ass, it was very cute.

Weren't there rumors about him and Beyonce two years ago? I believe that Prince thinks she is talented but i also think he had a crush on her. If anything happened between them, it has been kept a secret by both parties. I know for a fact that there is a lot to Beyonce that the public doesn't know. I can't wait for a tell all on her. Also, the subject of Prince performing with Beyonce at the grammies is pretty old. Haven't we covered this topic enough?

candy2277 said:

Maybe people secretly want an encore?

DesireeNevermind said:

I hope not!!!

dirtyman2005 said:

OMG, I was just reading an article this morning about illumanti symbols in Beyonce's music videos and songs. The article is convincing once you understand what the occult symbols are. I have a lot more to say on this topic but this isn't the proper thread for it.

oh for christ's sake

Considering the timing with his album release and induction,it made perfect sense.Also that night all of the performances were old/new collabos.Many kids saw him for the first time that night and it helped him with exposure.If B was a freaking Klingon worshiper,that wouldn't have meant a damn to "Brother Nelson".This is business folks,Stakes are high and some of yall are putting your personal dislike ahead of logic.Why would a fan care if Matt Knowles was a snake..He's nothing compared to other industry people.As a former employee of the snake pit(Sony),if you've never tasted the venom..you shouldn't talk about the snake pit...really... don't..
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lastdecember said:

With exception of Sheena Easton (who denied it till this day), all of those^ ladies definitely were F***ing For Tracks. No argument there.

EDIT double posts.
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vainandy said:

1. @ your point about Tony M.

2. Carmen does have the talent to get involve with freaking celebrities. Prince, Dennis Rodman, Dave Navarro, Joan Jett, one of the members of Cypress Hill,.....the list is amazing for all the wrong reasons.
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babynoz said:

1. I never brought another Prince album since 3121. But you're more than welcome to tell me what it feels like to waste your money on Planet Earth & Elixer like you have this decade.

2. As good as Beyonce is (and I say "good" loosely), anyone (including yourself) that dares to put her in the same sentence as Tina Turner, Patti LeBelle, Aretha Franklin, OR Chaka Khan really and truly needs to be ashame of themselves. Seriously!

3. As for Beyonce being the best of her generation of female artists, you AND BlaqueKnight are both correct. Why? Because Beyonce does NOT have any real rivals in her generation.

---Christina can compete in singing, but not dancing.

---Britney can't sing at all and her dancing ability has decline.

---Rhianna is basically a poor man's Beyonce. Sad but true.

---Shakira can compete in dancing, but she sing like a lamb!

---Nicole is more sucessful as leader of the PCD than as a solo artist.

---Jessica is more successful at reality TV than her music.

---Ashlee can't lip-synch worth a damn, never mind sing!

---Miley couldn't get anywhere close to Beyonce-type success until her Disney-pop days are finally over (and yes, she can't sing neither).

People and critics alike can make every positive and/or negative comment about Whitney/Mariah/Madonna/Janet all they want. At least those 4 artists know among themselves that they are great rivals within their generation. Beyonce doesn't have that kind of situation within her younger generation AND that is a great reason why I should NEVER be force to give her too much credit to begin with.

End of.

babynoz said:

TonyVanDam said:

She's not the best of her generation. Even though Britney has less talent her music is way better, and I'm sure she will get back to dancing once she lowers her medication!

Rihanna is a mess but she is catching up to Bey in terms of success.

Alicia Keys KILLS Beys life and has outsold her, plus she can write and produce her own songs and play instruments and SANG.

Calluout said:

After 30 years of being in the game, and often called out for assanine sneak-assedness himself, surely you don't believe that Prince is that naive do you?

BlaqueKnight said:

Agreed. The talent is clearly there, but good lawd, the material she and her people choose in order to do this pop icon thing...and let's not start on the trainwreck which is the translation of her songs to Spanish . However, I can truthfully say that up until her second solo effort, I could always find at least one song that was very well crafted and showcased her vocals wonderfully. The rest of her music is throaway filler to me, so I've got about 5 or 6 Beyonce songs in my music library total...but those 5 or 6 are fab.

ehuffnsd said:

Isn't Genie her biggest hit?

bboy87 said:

*takes deep breath* Thank you!

I dont think Prince cares either way, if he was worrying about lip syncers, ghost writer, fake shit basically in music - he would probably be in a room with maybe 25 people - most of them his age or older.