Someone clarify for me but um...didn't Elvis wait until Precisla was of age before he had sex with her? He married her before the sexing. Plus he was in his twenties. I think a more appropriate comparison would be Jerry Lee Lewis who was shagging his own 14 year old cousin when he was pushing 30 I think.
and then there is Woody Allen who was pushing 50 and shagging his 13 year old step daughter before divorcing his wife and marrying her. Plus he allegedly molested his bio kid. | |
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I think those who continue to believe MJ is a Pedo should be happy that he is dead and move on and let those who what to mourn him mourn on.
The fact of the matter is MJ was not convicted of anything. Considering the amount of children he surrounded himself with, unwisely I might add, there was not enough physical evidence to convict him. Infact the whole child abuse trial in 2005 was based on MJ words. I do believe the reaction to Michael's death was unexpected to some, considering the mockery and ridicule he got before his death. That must irritate certain people. | |
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asg said: I can hardly believe he took so many drugs. I have never heard anyone abuse medication like him. I am surprised he lived this long. how can someone be goin into coma everynite??
i am more likely now then ever to believe he was molesting boys but maybe they consented to it. Then i read omer bhatti was sharing his bed with him while his parents were in different part of the house. I think he chose boys mainy coz there would be less suspicion I have never heard of anyone abuse medications like him... Michael Jackson was not and STILL is NOT the only one. It's a lot of stars abusing prescription meds, Eminem, President Kennedy took medications for various illnesses, Dana Plato, Heath Ledger, Anna Nicole Smith, Ozzy Osbourne and the list just goes on and on....so the saga continues. Most of the time when you are under the influence the real you comes out and so did his urges. I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault! | |
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Riverpoet31 said: Michael hasnt been 'set up'. He had his own issues as a person.
I don't believe he was set up either, his urges kicked in and he couldn't help it. He was warned about those boys he had in his bed.... I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault! | |
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dag said: suga10 said: I still don't get why Lisa said he sucked in bed in Rolling Stone?
Did she? I don´t remember that. Please post the exact quote. I remember her saying something else in the Howard Stern interview. He asked her if she was sexually satisfied by him and she said something whether he believes she would marry someone who wouldn´t? And than, later on, I remember reading her Playboy interview PLAYBOY: How would you characterize your taste in sex?
PRESLEY: Probably "porn style." [Laughs] I am a little dark on the subject. I like it rough, the way they do things in porn movies. http://www.lisamarieonlin...layboy.php I connected these two quotes and was like. Mike´s wilder than i ever thought him to be. woah | |
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For the record.... Minors cannot legally consent to sex. The adult bears the burden to obey the law and not have sex with the child, even if the child supposedly "wants" it. I had a pedophile once tell me that the little girl asked for it because she was bouncing on his lap.
IT IS ILLEGAL FOR ADULTS TO HAVE SEX, IN ANY FORM WITH CHILDREN, AND TEENAGERS UNDER THE AGE OF 17. I don't know if the age of consent differs from state to state. "It's hard 4 me 2 say what's right when all I want to do is wrong..." | |
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i'm looking up some of these hardcore pornographic books
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OldTeenager said: Riverpoet31 said: Michael hasnt been 'set up'. He had his own issues as a person.
I don't believe he was set up either, his urges kicked in and he couldn't help it. He was warned about those boys he had in his bed.... Maybe he had a case of arrested development. Rev. Al Sharpton mentioned about it. [Edited 8/12/09 20:57pm] | |
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[quote] dag said: http://www.lisamarieonlin...layboy.php I connected these two quotes and was like. Mike´s wilder than i ever thought him to be. Maybe he's a wild boy But she said in the same interview he was not sexually seductive. PLAYBOY: You're saying that Michael Jackson is seductive?
PRESLEY: He's not sexually seductive, but there is something riveting about him. He doesn't let people see who he is. When he does, it's hard to shake. I got caught up and thought I was in love with the man. I don't know what else to say. Let's not forget she's been in four marriages, so she could have been referring to her other partners. [Edited 8/12/09 20:58pm] | |
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bidgood stuff is really gay and campy all of this stuff looks more arty to me than whacking material. amazing. [Edited 8/12/09 21:11pm] | |
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The last one don't look just arty. | |
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CAMPY
the scenes d'intereur one is the naughty one. for me anyways [Edited 8/12/09 21:46pm] | |
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StillDirrty said: bettybop said: I'm sorry, but unless the context involves surgery in a hospital setting, there's nothing that "makes sense" about using propofol. I don't even want to know what all was going on in this man's spirit to be begging folks to put him in a coma each night...it's just ghastly to think about.
Even the doctors that were on CNN understood to a degree why he took drastic measures to do this i.e. Deepak and Gupta. I'm not saying it was right. Everyone knows it was wrong he's dead because of it but in his line of thinking I could see why he did it. He was desperate for sleep, a doctor told him that Propofol would put him to sleep and that is was ok (as told by nurse Cherilyn Lee) so he did it. But it was dangerous and he shouldn't have listened to whoever was the first doctor who told him to do it. Just like he shouldn't have listened to Hoefflin when he told him to get more surgeries. He wasn't in the right frame of mind. If he was mentally sound he would have had more sense to know that he shouldn't do these things. I don't see the point of being shocked at more evidence of Michael being crazy when everybody already knew that he was. Okay and why did the doctor himself decline to comment? For some reason, I do not believe that marriage to Lisa Marie was anything more than some type of arrangement. I just don't buy it although I'd like to I don't get why people insist on calling Lisa Marie a liar. He's dead now if it was a charade she has no reason to keep it up. Even when she was mad at him and talked all that shit about him she never denied the marriage being real & now after his death she still maintains that.The doctors I've seen talking about this, Dr. Drew and some anesthesiologists on Anderson Cooper and Dateline, have said it was pure insanity to use a dangerous drug like propofol for mere sleep deprivation. When you awake from the drug you feel anything but rested, so they suspected that Michael was using it for the high (as it gives off a euphoric feeling), or to "disconnect". This is what I suspected all along, which makes it all the more sadder. Also, I said considering the propofol, it would not surprise me to learn he used a drug to suppress sexual urges. It would interest me, however, as I've always wondered how he was able to lead a seemingly asexual lifestyle (in the public eye) for so long. Unfortunately, the first time MJ's image was cast in a sexual context was when the charges of child abuse came out. Then, he got married and Lisa Marie becomes the one and only, to my knowledge, woman to go on record saying they had sexual intercourse with Michael Jackson. I'm not saying she's a liar. She may be telling the truth about how she felt about everything. However, I just never bought them as a couple. They were about as believable to me as Liza and David. "Be glad for what you had baby, what you've got..." | |
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BaileyWalker said: 5) ITEM #305: a photograph of Macauley Culkin, which was located in the master bathroom. ===== 13) ITEM #510: (2) bags of miscellaneous underclothes and bloodied bed linen...located in the upstairs library room of the video/arcade area. The Disneyland bag contained a red Prada brand, long-sleeve shirt...I also found the bag to contain a white cotton sheet with reddish brown stains on it, which I believed were consistent with blood staining. The Garden City Hotel bag had a white Harbor Bay long-sleeved cotton shirt; a folded cotton bed sheet...and numerous pairs of size 30 cotton briefs...in total, there were nine pair of men's cotton brief underwear. Some of the briefs had discolorations and/or stains, but all pairs appeared to have been washed. ===== a pic of Macauley is porn?? in what alternate universe? *dead* at MJ with stained drawers. | |
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suga10 said:[quote] Maybe he's a wild boy But she said in the same interview he was not sexually seductive. PLAYBOY: You're saying that Michael Jackson is seductive?
PRESLEY: He's not sexually seductive, but there is something riveting about him. He doesn't let people see who he is. When he does, it's hard to shake. I got caught up and thought I was in love with the man. I don't know what else to say. Let's not forget she's been in four marriages, so she could have been referring to her other partners. [Edited 8/12/09 20:58pm] No no, they were asking her specifically about Mike. Have you seen that Howard Stern interview? He´s so rude. Can´t believe she agreed to do an interview with him. If you wanna watch it, you can download it here. Video section, year 2003. http://www.presleyspride.com/ [Edited 8/13/09 3:40am] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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bettybop said: StillDirrty said: I don't get why people insist on calling Lisa Marie a liar. He's dead now if it was a charade she has no reason to keep it up. Even when she was mad at him and talked all that shit about him she never denied the marriage being real & now after his death she still maintains that.
The doctors I've seen talking about this, Dr. Drew and some anesthesiologists on Anderson Cooper and Dateline, have said it was pure insanity to use a dangerous drug like propofol for mere sleep deprivation. When you awake from the drug you feel anything but rested, so they suspected that Michael was using it for the high (as it gives off a euphoric feeling), or to "disconnect". This is what I suspected all along, which makes it all the more sadder. Also, I said considering the propofol, it would not surprise me to learn he used a drug to suppress sexual urges. It would interest me, however, as I've always wondered how he was able to lead a seemingly asexual lifestyle (in the public eye) for so long. Unfortunately, the first time MJ's image was cast in a sexual context was when the charges of child abuse came out. Then, he got married and Lisa Marie becomes the one and only, to my knowledge, woman to go on record saying they had sexual intercourse with Michael Jackson. I'm not saying she's a liar. She may be telling the truth about how she felt about everything. However, I just never bought them as a couple. They were about as believable to me as Liza and David. Michael had been trying to get with Lisa since the late 1980s. Lisa has confirmed this as well as Michael on Primetime with Diane Sawyer in 1995. Is it because she is white? If Michael married a black women then no one who of thought it was a publicity stunt. I'm sorry to say this but I'm sure many ignorant black and white folks were mad that Michael married Lisa and vice versa. It is still taboo to have an interracial relationship especially a white woman with a black mam in America. I've not only seen this with celebrities but everyday people as well especially with white women and black men couples. People saying the nastiest stuff and saying oh he must be with her because of certain myths and vice versa. | |
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funkteer said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: duh! Your arguments would hold more merit if your didn't insult everyone you argued with. You have a valid point there! The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. | |
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dearmother said: i'm looking up some of these hardcore pornographic books
lolol That last picture just makes me wanna spank that ass.... The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. | |
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Chic35 said: funkteer said: Your arguments would hold more merit if your didn't insult everyone you argued with. You have a valid point there! I think everyone's would if they would just stop insulting those who disagree with them. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: bettybop said: The doctors I've seen talking about this, Dr. Drew and some anesthesiologists on Anderson Cooper and Dateline, have said it was pure insanity to use a dangerous drug like propofol for mere sleep deprivation. When you awake from the drug you feel anything but rested, so they suspected that Michael was using it for the high (as it gives off a euphoric feeling), or to "disconnect". This is what I suspected all along, which makes it all the more sadder. Also, I said considering the propofol, it would not surprise me to learn he used a drug to suppress sexual urges. It would interest me, however, as I've always wondered how he was able to lead a seemingly asexual lifestyle (in the public eye) for so long. Unfortunately, the first time MJ's image was cast in a sexual context was when the charges of child abuse came out. Then, he got married and Lisa Marie becomes the one and only, to my knowledge, woman to go on record saying they had sexual intercourse with Michael Jackson. I'm not saying she's a liar. She may be telling the truth about how she felt about everything. However, I just never bought them as a couple. They were about as believable to me as Liza and David. Michael had been trying to get with Lisa since the late 1980s. Lisa has confirmed this as well as Michael on Primetime with Diane Sawyer in 1995. Is it because she is white? If Michael married a black women then no one who of thought it was a publicity stunt. I'm sorry to say this but I'm sure many ignorant black and white folks were mad that Michael married Lisa and vice versa. It is still taboo to have an interracial relationship especially a white woman with a black mam in America. I've not only seen this with celebrities but everyday people as well especially with white women and black men couples. People saying the nastiest stuff and saying oh he must be with her because of certain myths and vice versa. I don't think the marriage was a problem. Its more like a case of bad timing b/c it right after the child abuse allegations so people thought it Michael trying to distract the public from the whole scandal, by marrying a woman just out of nowhere, to change the topic. If Michael married Lisa in 1993 before the allegations. Then I think people would have not had a hard time accepting it. The timing was extremely bad for their marriage. [Edited 8/13/09 10:03am] | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: bettybop said: The doctors I've seen talking about this, Dr. Drew and some anesthesiologists on Anderson Cooper and Dateline, have said it was pure insanity to use a dangerous drug like propofol for mere sleep deprivation. When you awake from the drug you feel anything but rested, so they suspected that Michael was using it for the high (as it gives off a euphoric feeling), or to "disconnect". This is what I suspected all along, which makes it all the more sadder. Also, I said considering the propofol, it would not surprise me to learn he used a drug to suppress sexual urges. It would interest me, however, as I've always wondered how he was able to lead a seemingly asexual lifestyle (in the public eye) for so long. Unfortunately, the first time MJ's image was cast in a sexual context was when the charges of child abuse came out. Then, he got married and Lisa Marie becomes the one and only, to my knowledge, woman to go on record saying they had sexual intercourse with Michael Jackson. I'm not saying she's a liar. She may be telling the truth about how she felt about everything. However, I just never bought them as a couple. They were about as believable to me as Liza and David. Michael had been trying to get with Lisa since the late 1980s. Lisa has confirmed this as well as Michael on Primetime with Diane Sawyer in 1995. Is it because she is white? If Michael married a black women then no one who of thought it was a publicity stunt. I'm sorry to say this but I'm sure many ignorant black and white folks were mad that Michael married Lisa and vice versa. It is still taboo to have an interracial relationship especially a white woman with a black mam in America. I've not only seen this with celebrities but everyday people as well especially with white women and black men couples. People saying the nastiest stuff and saying oh he must be with her because of certain myths and vice versa. MJ clearly had an obsession with elvis and the beatles and trying to be as big as or bigger than them, so hooking up with his daughter like the arranged asian marraiges to make two families into one stronger family makes sense. he clearly had no interest in the opposite sex in a sexual way, and if he did he could have done a lot better than lisa marie. even her second husband, another elvis fanatic, divorced her | |
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unique said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: Michael had been trying to get with Lisa since the late 1980s. Lisa has confirmed this as well as Michael on Primetime with Diane Sawyer in 1995. Is it because she is white? If Michael married a black women then no one who of thought it was a publicity stunt. I'm sorry to say this but I'm sure many ignorant black and white folks were mad that Michael married Lisa and vice versa. It is still taboo to have an interracial relationship especially a white woman with a black mam in America. I've not only seen this with celebrities but everyday people as well especially with white women and black men couples. People saying the nastiest stuff and saying oh he must be with her because of certain myths and vice versa. MJ clearly had an obsession with elvis and the beatles and trying to be as big as or bigger than them, so hooking up with his daughter like the arranged asian marraiges to make two families into one stronger family makes sense. he clearly had no interest in the opposite sex in a sexual way, and if he did he could have done a lot better than lisa marie. even her second husband, another elvis fanatic, divorced her Lisa said Nick Cage was not this big Elvis fan like the media him out to be, that it was all exagerrated. There were other reasons why they divorced according to her. And Michael has dated other woman in secret, which even Teddy Riley has hinted about it, and that's what the whole Dangerous album was emphasized about. Women. [Edited 8/13/09 10:04am] | |
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suga10 said: unique said: MJ clearly had an obsession with elvis and the beatles and trying to be as big as or bigger than them, so hooking up with his daughter like the arranged asian marraiges to make two families into one stronger family makes sense. he clearly had no interest in the opposite sex in a sexual way, and if he did he could have done a lot better than lisa marie. even her second husband, another elvis fanatic, divorced her Lisa said Nick Cage was not this big Elvis fan like the media him out to be, that it was all exagerrated. There were other reasons why they divorced according to her. And Michael has dated other woman in secret, which even Teddy Riley has hinted about it, and that's what the whole Dangerous album was emphasized about. Women. [Edited 8/13/09 10:04am] Nick may not have been a "big Elvis fan" but damn, they were only married for 14 months! | |
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Timmy84 said: suga10 said: Lisa said Nick Cage was not this big Elvis fan like the media him out to be, that it was all exagerrated. There were other reasons why they divorced according to her. And Michael has dated other woman in secret, which even Teddy Riley has hinted about it, and that's what the whole Dangerous album was emphasized about. Women. [Edited 8/13/09 10:04am] Nick may not have been a "big Elvis fan" but damn, they were only married for 14 months! And now he's happly married to Alice Kim since 2004 and they have a son now [Edited 8/13/09 10:12am] [Edited 8/13/09 10:15am] | |
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Timmy84 said: suga10 said: Lisa said Nick Cage was not this big Elvis fan like the media him out to be, that it was all exagerrated. There were other reasons why they divorced according to her. And Michael has dated other woman in secret, which even Teddy Riley has hinted about it, and that's what the whole Dangerous album was emphasized about. Women. [Edited 8/13/09 10:04am] Nick may not have been a "big Elvis fan" but damn, they were only married for 14 months! Who? Lisa and Nick? I think it was only 3 months. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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I've never seen their wedding pic
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unique said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: Michael had been trying to get with Lisa since the late 1980s. Lisa has confirmed this as well as Michael on Primetime with Diane Sawyer in 1995. Is it because she is white? If Michael married a black women then no one who of thought it was a publicity stunt. I'm sorry to say this but I'm sure many ignorant black and white folks were mad that Michael married Lisa and vice versa. It is still taboo to have an interracial relationship especially a white woman with a black mam in America. I've not only seen this with celebrities but everyday people as well especially with white women and black men couples. People saying the nastiest stuff and saying oh he must be with her because of certain myths and vice versa. MJ clearly had an obsession with elvis and the beatles and trying to be as big as or bigger than them, so hooking up with his daughter like the arranged asian marraiges to make two families into one stronger family makes sense. he clearly had no interest in the opposite sex in a sexual way, and if he did he could have done a lot better than lisa marie. even her second husband, another elvis fanatic, divorced her you are TOO much. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: bettybop said: The doctors I've seen talking about this, Dr. Drew and some anesthesiologists on Anderson Cooper and Dateline, have said it was pure insanity to use a dangerous drug like propofol for mere sleep deprivation. When you awake from the drug you feel anything but rested, so they suspected that Michael was using it for the high (as it gives off a euphoric feeling), or to "disconnect". This is what I suspected all along, which makes it all the more sadder. Also, I said considering the propofol, it would not surprise me to learn he used a drug to suppress sexual urges. It would interest me, however, as I've always wondered how he was able to lead a seemingly asexual lifestyle (in the public eye) for so long. Unfortunately, the first time MJ's image was cast in a sexual context was when the charges of child abuse came out. Then, he got married and Lisa Marie becomes the one and only, to my knowledge, woman to go on record saying they had sexual intercourse with Michael Jackson. I'm not saying she's a liar. She may be telling the truth about how she felt about everything. However, I just never bought them as a couple. They were about as believable to me as Liza and David. Michael had been trying to get with Lisa since the late 1980s. Lisa has confirmed this as well as Michael on Primetime with Diane Sawyer in 1995. Is it because she is white? If Michael married a black women then no one who of thought it was a publicity stunt. I'm sorry to say this but I'm sure many ignorant black and white folks were mad that Michael married Lisa and vice versa. It is still taboo to have an interracial relationship especially a white woman with a black mam in America. I've not only seen this with celebrities but everyday people as well especially with white women and black men couples. People saying the nastiest stuff and saying oh he must be with her because of certain myths and vice versa. Even Priscilla confirmed this and we all know she did not like him that much. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Chic35 said: That last picture just makes me wanna spank that ass.... haha that's basically the book, from what i could see (i'm not sure what i'm allowed to post?) but it's a buncha womens asses bent over in crazy costumes. [Edited 8/13/09 10:20am] | |
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dag said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: Michael had been trying to get with Lisa since the late 1980s. Lisa has confirmed this as well as Michael on Primetime with Diane Sawyer in 1995. Is it because she is white? If Michael married a black women then no one who of thought it was a publicity stunt. I'm sorry to say this but I'm sure many ignorant black and white folks were mad that Michael married Lisa and vice versa. It is still taboo to have an interracial relationship especially a white woman with a black mam in America. I've not only seen this with celebrities but everyday people as well especially with white women and black men couples. People saying the nastiest stuff and saying oh he must be with her because of certain myths and vice versa. Even Priscilla confirmed this and we all know she did not like him that much. I wonder if she was pissed off b/c Lisa married a black man. | |
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