laurarichardson said: dirtyman2005 said: just because people talk about masturbation and incest in their songs, doesn't automatically make them the greatest songwriters on earth, people should understand that.
every person interprets the lyrics differently. in my opinion, Prince has made a lot of shit, and I mean A LOT of shit over the years. Some of the shit wouldn't even be classed as reject material, yet he still put them on his "albums". It might be artistic, but for a lot of fans, its shittistic! ----- Speak for yourself their is nothing in MJ catalogue that beats these 4 CDS. Sign of the Times, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind, and 1999. These cd continuely show up on critics list and you can still hear their influence in today's music. I find the Rainbow Children to more musically interesting than anything Mike could do. MJ sold a lot of CDs because he did straight pop music with no variation which is what you have to do to sell that volume of music. MJ simpley never had the musical albility that had Prince and in the long run P will never sell as many cd's as Mike but his strategy has kept him productive, financially sound, and viable in today's marketplace. The last 8 years of MJ life was a fucking disater. The last 8 years have been incredible comeback for Prince. Sadly, I think we know who won the competition. In addtion, wasn't "BAD" one of the worst CDs of the 80's. Good god you could have only enjoyed this CD if you were under the age of 10. [Edited 8/11/09 13:49pm] "Bad" was the worst CDs of 80's , whoever said this is seriously on crack. when was the last time Prince released a beautiful melodic memorable tune ? throwing shitty albums in my face is doing nothing for me, at least Mj didn't released anything those last 8 years, Mj has always been like this, He just doesn't release anything, He is more of a quality ,while prince is Quantity. I know that prince is a capable songwriter, but saying he is better than MJ in the field beacuse he kept releasing albums is Pure JOke, MJ's vault has more than 500 unreleased songs mostly written by him, he could release an album every year but he chose not to do that , because he is a man of quality, he Just doesn't release anything. MICHAEL JACKSON
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laurarichardson said: dirtyman2005 said: just because people talk about masturbation and incest in their songs, doesn't automatically make them the greatest songwriters on earth, people should understand that.
every person interprets the lyrics differently. in my opinion, Prince has made a lot of shit, and I mean A LOT of shit over the years. Some of the shit wouldn't even be classed as reject material, yet he still put them on his "albums". It might be artistic, but for a lot of fans, its shittistic! ----- Speak for yourself their is nothing in MJ catalogue that beats these 4 CDS. Sign of the Times, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind, and 1999. These cd continuely show up on critics list and you can still hear their influence in today's music. I find the Rainbow Children to more musically interesting than anything Mike could do. MJ sold a lot of CDs because he did straight pop music with no variation which is what you have to do to sell that volume of music. MJ simpley never had the musical albility that had Prince and in the long run P will never sell as many cd's as Mike but his strategy has kept him productive, financially sound, and viable in today's marketplace. The last 8 years of MJ life was a fucking disater. The last 8 years have been incredible comeback for Prince. Sadly, I think we know who won the competition. In addtion, wasn't "BAD" one of the worst CDs of the 80's. Good god you could have only enjoyed this CD if you were under the age of 10. [Edited 8/11/09 13:49pm] I've always been a believer in quality over quantity and that applies in this case. Prince might have released more albums than MJ, but it doesn't mean every single CD is a great one, just like I can't say every Madonna album is a great one too, and the same applies with all the other artists out there. Michael achieved far more from 1968 through 2001 than Prince will ever achieve from 1977- till now. Prince only had a far edge than Michael in terms of playing instruments and knowing how to incorporate various sounds, but that's about it. [Edited 8/11/09 16:13pm] | |
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ColAngus said: it was published . as a rumor . why not be able to discuss it . i think Dr Funkenberry or whatever his name is - publishes alot of interesting stuff and ... just because the discussion veered off course ... the fact that now - a few days later there is another "rumor" lets be clear - at this point it is still just a rumor right ??? (prince never changes his mind )
Hello, there was a REASON why the original thread was locked down. Stop trying to bring up the dead. | |
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laurarichardson said: dirtyman2005 said: just because people talk about masturbation and incest in their songs, doesn't automatically make them the greatest songwriters on earth, people should understand that.
every person interprets the lyrics differently. in my opinion, Prince has made a lot of shit, and I mean A LOT of shit over the years. Some of the shit wouldn't even be classed as reject material, yet he still put them on his "albums". It might be artistic, but for a lot of fans, its shittistic! ----- Speak for yourself their is nothing in MJ catalogue that beats these 4 CDS. Sign of the Times, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind, and 1999. These cd continuely show up on critics list and you can still hear their influence in today's music. I find the Rainbow Children to more musically interesting than anything Mike could do. MJ sold a lot of CDs because he did straight pop music with no variation which is what you have to do to sell that volume of music. MJ simpley never had the musical albility that had Prince and in the long run P will never sell as many cd's as Mike but his strategy has kept him productive, financially sound, and viable in today's marketplace. The last 8 years of MJ life was a fucking disater. The last 8 years have been incredible comeback for Prince. Sadly, I think we know who won the competition. In addtion, wasn't "BAD" one of the worst CDs of the 80's. Good god you could have only enjoyed this CD if you were under the age of 10. [Edited 8/11/09 13:49pm] FACT! | |
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suga10 said: laurarichardson said: ----- Speak for yourself their is nothing in MJ catalogue that beats these 4 CDS. Sign of the Times, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind, and 1999. These cd continuely show up on critics list and you can still hear their influence in today's music. I find the Rainbow Children to more musically interesting than anything Mike could do. MJ sold a lot of CDs because he did straight pop music with no variation which is what you have to do to sell that volume of music. MJ simpley never had the musical albility that had Prince and in the long run P will never sell as many cd's as Mike but his strategy has kept him productive, financially sound, and viable in today's marketplace. The last 8 years of MJ life was a fucking disater. The last 8 years have been incredible comeback for Prince. Sadly, I think we know who won the competition. In addtion, wasn't "BAD" one of the worst CDs of the 80's. Good god you could have only enjoyed this CD if you were under the age of 10. [Edited 8/11/09 13:49pm] I've always been a believer in quality over quantity and that applies in this case. Prince might have released more albums than MJ, but it doesn't mean every single CD is a great one, just like I can't say every Madonna album is a great one too, and the same applies with all the other artists out there. Michael achieved far more from 1968 through 2001 than Prince will ever achieve from 1977- till now. Prince only had a far edge than Michael in terms of playing instruments and knowing how to incorporate various sounds, but that's about it. [Edited 8/11/09 16:13pm] | |
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WaterInYourBath said: laurarichardson said: ----- Some of Mike's songs suck musically and lyrically. Mike had a great voice but I wish you Mike Jackson fans would live in the land of reality as far as the quality of his songwriting Alright, and I can name them: "Just Good Friends," "Keep The Faith," and "2000 Watts." But what's your point? I did not post anything about song writing or lyrics. I'm talking about singing ability. Prince would sound awkward trying to sing even Michael's best compositions. Imagine him singing lead for "Beat It," or "Workin' Day And Night" for example, which are "musically and lyrically" superb. It still would not sound right, even with his falsetto. The funny part is, Prince can't prove me wrong since he's not going to do this performance anyway. And there's no need to turn this around and say that Michael couldn't have performed the vocals for Prince's hit songs either, because I am aware of that. Actually, I think Prince could turn "Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)" out! I'd love to see him perform it with the rest of The Jackson brothers. Of course Prince would sound rediculous trying to perform it just like Michael because both of them were known for being individuals but in the parts where Michael has his classic "ooh's" or "hee hee's", Prince could replace them with his own classic screams and squeals. And Prince could play bass and do a hell of a job with this jam. This would be a great tribute but it will never happen. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Evidently Prince has already sung MJ songs in his concerts.
He must not have sounded too bad so what's the dilemma. I don't believe he would do it at a music award show though. | |
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seeingvoices12 said: when was the last time Prince released a beautiful melodic memorable tune ?
Hmmmm....There's been a few "melodic" memorable Prince tunes in this decade.... "She Loves Me 4 Me" "Everywhere" "Tangerine" "A Million Days" "What Do U Want Me 2 Do?" "Reflection" "I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore" "Beautiful Strange" "The Dance" "Somewhere Here On Earth" "All The Midnights in the World" "Future Baby Mama" "The Morning After" "Here" "Better With Time" Check em out..... | |
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vainandy said: Actually, I think Prince could turn "Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)" out! I'd love to see him perform it with the rest of The Jackson brothers. Of course Prince would sound rediculous trying to perform it just like Michael because both of them were known for being individuals but in the parts where Michael has his classic "ooh's" or "hee hee's", Prince could replace them with his own classic screams and squeals. And Prince could play bass and do a hell of a job with this jam. This would be a great tribute but it will never happen. That has potential. Or he could do a ballad and simply play piano or guitar and not sing a note. He sure as hell would've done a better job with "Human Nature" than John Mayer. As someone else noted on the other thread, Prince is capable of doing a better tribute to MJ than MJ could ever do for Prince. Prince simply has more options. I can't see this happening. But I do see Prince doing something one day perhaps. [Edited 8/11/09 22:19pm] "Be glad for what you had baby, what you've got..." | |
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suga10 said: I've always been a believer in quality over quantity and that applies in this case. Prince might have released more albums than MJ, but it doesn't mean every single CD is a great one, just like I can't say every Madonna album is a great one too, and the same applies with all the other artists out there. I believe in quality of quantity too. And yes, while its true he's released more shit than MJ has, I believe he's also released more quality albums than MJ has as well. Michael achieved far more from 1968 through 2001 than Prince will ever achieve from 1977- till now. And your point is? Justin Timberlake has achieved far more than Ryan Adams ever will, does that make him a better Artist? Prince only had a far edge than Michael in terms of playing instruments and knowing how to incorporate various sounds, but that's about it. [b]I still think Prince edges him out in songwriting, composing and arranging. [Edited 8/11/09 16:13pm] | |
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I thought I told you guys NOT to turn this into another MJ vs.Prince thread!
Let's get back on topic,please. I heard about a big MJ tribute concert that will take place in September.It's supposed to have 10 of the biggest artists in the world: Madonna U2 Lionel Richie Whitney Houston and others... Does anyone have anymore details? | |
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murph said: seeingvoices12 said: when was the last time Prince released a beautiful melodic memorable tune ?
Hmmmm....There's been a few "melodic" memorable Prince tunes in this decade.... "She Loves Me 4 Me" "Everywhere" "Tangerine" "A Million Days" "What Do U Want Me 2 Do?" "Reflection" "I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore" "Beautiful Strange" "The Dance" "Somewhere Here On Earth" "All The Midnights in the World" "Future Baby Mama" "The Morning After" "Here" "Better With Time" Check em out..... I know dude... I have already have those, Im not Ignorant about Prince's catalogue. MICHAEL JACKSON
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Let's pick the songs that the artists should sing at the tribute...
Stevie Wonder---"I Can't Help It" Whitney Houston---"Man In The Mirror" Lionel Richie---"Another Part Of Me" Janet Jackson---"Human Nature" Aretha Franklin---"Got To Be There" Madonna---"Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)" U2---"Smooth Criminal" Diana Ross---"Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" | |
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SoulAlive said: Let's pick the songs that the artists should sing at the tribute...
Stevie Wonder---"I Can't Help It" Whitney Houston---"Man In The Mirror" Lionel Richie---"Another Part Of Me" Janet Jackson---"Human Nature" Aretha Franklin---"Got To Be There" Madonna---"Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)" U2---"Smooth Criminal" Diana Ross---"Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" Excellent choices! "Get up off that grey line" | |
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Prince has covered Janet's What Have You Done For Me Lately, so him doing an MJ cover doesn't seem too far-fetched to me. I could actually see him doing MJ's Give In To Me . "Get up off that grey line" | |
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SoulAlive said: Let's pick the songs that the artists should sing at the tribute...
Stevie Wonder---"I Can't Help It" Whitney Houston---"Man In The Mirror" Lionel Richie---"Another Part Of Me" Janet Jackson---"Human Nature" Aretha Franklin---"Got To Be There" Madonna---"Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)" U2---"Smooth Criminal" Diana Ross---"Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" [Edited 8/12/09 6:06am] MICHAEL JACKSON
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I'd like for Carlos Santana to appear and perform "Beat It",with maybe Marc Anthony handling the lead vocals.
I'd rather that they don't bring out the "usual suspects" and wannabees (Chris Brown,Justin,Usher) and focus instead on older,more important artists who were actually alive when 'Off The Wall' was released | |
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seeingvoices12 said: SoulAlive said: Let's pick the songs that the artists should sing at the tribute...
Stevie Wonder---"I Can't Help It" Whitney Houston---"Man In The Mirror" Lionel Richie---"Another Part Of Me" Janet Jackson---"Human Nature" Aretha Franklin---"Got To Be There" Madonna---"Shake Your Body (Down To The Ground)" U2---"Smooth Criminal" Diana Ross---"Don't Stop Til You Get Enough" [Edited 8/12/09 6:06am] LOL r u kidding, I could totally see Janet and Lionel covering these two songs. Human Nature has the kind of subtlety that suits Janet's voice, and Another Part of Me has mid-80s Lionel Richie stamped all over it. [Edited 8/12/09 6:29am] "Get up off that grey line" | |
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SoulAlive said: I'd like for Carlos Santana to appear and perform "Beat It",with maybe Marc Anthony handling the lead vocals.
I'd rather that they don't bring out the "usual suspects" and wannabees (Chris Brown,Justin,Usher) and focus instead on older,more important artists who were actually alive when 'Off The Wall' was released very good point "Get up off that grey line" | |
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Here's a question for this thread.
1. If Prince really were to do a tribute to Michael Jackson, what song could you see him doing? 2. Would he sing, only play an instrument during the song or both? I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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Hall and Oates---"The Girl Is Mine"
Celine Dion and George Michael---"I Just Can't Stop Loving You" Patti LaBelle---"Off The Wall" Earth Wind and Fire---"Workin' Day And Night" Stephanie Mills---"I Wanna Be Where You Are" Donna Summer---"Smile" Mariah Carey---"Rock With You" Al Green---"She's Out Of My Life" the possibilities are endless! | |
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purplecam said: Here's a question for this thread.
1. If Prince really were to do a tribute to Michael Jackson, what song could you see him doing? 2. Would he sing, only play an instrument during the song or both? I'd have him do Never Can Say Goodbye with a melodic just my imgaintion-like solo at the end. | |
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SoulAlive said: Hall and Oates---"The Girl Is Mine"
Celine Dion and George Michael---"I Just Can't Stop Loving You" Patti LaBelle---"Off The Wall" Earth Wind and Fire---"Workin' Day And Night" Stephanie Mills---"I Wanna Be Where You Are" Donna Summer---"Smile" Mariah Carey---"Rock With You" Al Green---"She's Out Of My Life" the possibilities are endless! They are, idc, as long as any funk band turns out Working Day and Night or Burn this disco out, i'll be happy | |
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MajesticOne89 said: purplecam said: Here's a question for this thread.
1. If Prince really were to do a tribute to Michael Jackson, what song could you see him doing? 2. Would he sing, only play an instrument during the song or both? I'd have him do Never Can Say Goodbye with a melodic just my imgaintion-like solo at the end. That sounds good right there. I would love to hear him do Billie Jean or Rock With You. I'd probably look like and watching it. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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seeingvoices12 said: murph said: Hmmmm....There's been a few "melodic" memorable Prince tunes in this decade.... "She Loves Me 4 Me" "Everywhere" "Tangerine" "A Million Days" "What Do U Want Me 2 Do?" "Reflection" "I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore" "Beautiful Strange" "The Dance" "Somewhere Here On Earth" "All The Midnights in the World" "Future Baby Mama" "The Morning After" "Here" "Better With Time" Check em out..... I know dude... I have already have those, Im not Ignorant about Prince's catalogue. uh huh....lol | |
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SoulAlive said: I'd like for Carlos Santana to appear and perform "Beat It",with maybe Marc Anthony handling the lead vocals.
I'd rather that they don't bring out the "usual suspects" and wannabees (Chris Brown,Justin,Usher) and focus instead on older,more important artists who were actually alive when 'Off The Wall' was released Cool suggestion about Carlos and Marc - and I completely agree with you about the usual suspects. We can do without them that's for sure. | |
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Speak for yourself their is nothing in MJ catalogue that beats these 4 CDS.
Sign of the Times, Purple Rain, Dirty Mind, and 1999. These cd continuely show up on critics list and you can still hear their influence in today's music. I find the Rainbow Children to more musically interesting than anything Mike could do. MJ sold a lot of CDs because he did straight pop music with no variation which is what you have to do to sell that volume of music. MJ simpley never had the musical albility that had Prince and in the long run P will never sell as many cd's as Mike but his strategy has kept him productive, financially sound, and viable in today's marketplace. The last 8 years of MJ life was a fucking disater. The last 8 years have been incredible comeback for Prince. Sadly, I think we know who won the competition. In addtion, wasn't "BAD" one of the worst CDs of the 80's. Good god you could have only enjoyed this CD if you were under the age of 10. classic . altho i do agree 100% . MJ's albums never did it for me ... but that could be too cus i heard the songs all the time on the radio ... didnt have to hear any of his songs otherwise ! Colonel Angus may be smelly. colonel angus may be a little rough . but deep down ... Colonel angus is very sweet. | |
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after seeing John Mayer play Human Nature on his guitar at the funeral, i was like DAG! THAT should've been Prince. i think something like that would work. a different track though. Not sure if he should play AND sing. he could do "slash's parts" on tracks like Black or White, or Dirty Diana (that was Billy Idol's guitarist though right). He could probably pull of Lady in My Life vocally. it'll be interesting if he shows up, but i think if so, he'll play and not sing. | |
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I could possibly see Prince doing a rockin' version of "Man in the Mirror." I know it sounds crazy, lol, but just think for a second. The guy knows how to arrange a song in his favor. Michael kinda sang in a lower voice on that one.
Since this is most likely just rubbish, and therefore our speculation is fantasy, allow me to say that I still find it more interesting to think of what Prince song MJ could have possibly covered well. That's not a diss, either. The thought fascinates me. "Starfish & Coffee"? "Mountains"? "Free"? I know there has to be one. I wonder what was his fave Prince song? Both Latoya and Rebbie covered Prince's songs so I know the Jacksons enjoyed them some Prince. [Edited 8/13/09 0:18am] "Be glad for what you had baby, what you've got..." | |
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It would be interesting to see/hear Prince play tribute to Mike but one of the things that has made this rivalry so ongoing is the fact Prince hardly ever comments on Mike so why start now?
I personally believe Mikes albums as a whole were better than Prince's in the fact I could put it on and listen to most of them straight through where I could only do it with Prince on a few albums. For You, Sign of The Times,& Emancipation.The best Prince albums in the past 14 yrs have been by the much absent from the studio D'angelo's. IMO WITH Brown Sugar and Voodoo he's doing a better Prince than Prince these days However I do believe Prince by far is more musically inclined than Mike could ever have become. As far as there Vault of unrealeased music is concerned I think Michaels would be less interesting than Prince's But I'd love to hear it. I recall a George Clinton interview years ago where he spoke about some of Michaels work that has yet to be released is just straight FUNKY so coming from George Mike really must have brought it. It would be interesting . | |
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