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Reply #30 posted 08/10/09 3:01pm

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SoulAlive said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


Jermaine did say he tried to get with Mike, but he could never get him, having to make appointments and what not to his his own brother. That's wgat frustrated him (well, that's what he said anyway.)



But that's still no excuse for releasing this song and airing Mike's dirty laundry in public disbelief Michael was already getting alot of vicious criticism from the media and tabloids.It's a shame that his own family members would betray him,too.

I'm sure that,eventually,Mike would have made time to hang out with him and discuss these issues IN PRIVATE.Jermaine was just trying to cah in on the media fascination with MJ.

Read my comment above. I think LaFace (La and Face) were mostly behind this. They needed a little controversy to bring attention to their label. Face, LA, Left Eye and Jermaine are all listed as writers on this song.
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Reply #31 posted 08/11/09 6:19am

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SoulAlive said:




But that's still no excuse for releasing this song and airing Mike's dirty laundry in public disbelief Michael was already getting alot of vicious criticism from the media and tabloids.It's a shame that his own family members would betray him,too.

I'm sure that,eventually,Mike would have made time to hang out with him and discuss these issues IN PRIVATE.Jermaine was just trying to cah in on the media fascination with MJ.

Read my comment above. I think LaFace (La and Face) were mostly behind this. They needed a little controversy to bring attention to their label. Face, LA, Left Eye and Jermaine are all listed as writers on this song.


That's a shame disbelief Oddly enough,MJ worked with Babyface on 'Dangerous' which was released around the same time.

I don't see why Face and LA felt that they needed this type of "controversy" for their label.At that time,they were the hottest recording duo in the business and their label was doing fine in those days.

This little stunt reminds me of something I once heard about Janet.Back in the late 80s,after 'Control',A&M record exec John McCain (who now controls MJ's estate) suggested that Janet's next album be called "Scandal",dealing with the various scandals surrounding her family.He felt that it would be a huge seller.Needless to say,Janet was pissed and refused to do a project like that,lol.It just goes to show how some people close to the Jacksons were convincing them to exploit themselves and their family scandals to sell records.At least Janet was smart enough to say no! Jermaine proved that he was not above embarassing/dissing his own brother,just to get a little attention.


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Reply #32 posted 08/11/09 6:35am

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SoulAlive said:

daPrettyman said:


Read my comment above. I think LaFace (La and Face) were mostly behind this. They needed a little controversy to bring attention to their label. Face, LA, Left Eye and Jermaine are all listed as writers on this song.


That's a shame disbelief Oddly enough,MJ worked with Babyface on 'Dangerous' which was released around the same time.

Babyface on Dangerous?

This little stunt reminds me of something I once heard about Janet.Back in the late 80s,after 'Control',A&M record exec John McCain (who now controls MJ's estate) suggested that Janet's next album be called "Scandal",dealing with the various scandals surrounding her family.He felt that it would be a huge seller.Needless to say,Janet was pissed and refused to do a project like that,lol.It just goes to show how some people close to the Jacksons were convincing them to exploit themselves and their family scandals to sell records.At least Janet was smart enough to say no!

Well... she did record "You Need Me" and release it as a b-side. wink
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Reply #33 posted 08/11/09 6:47am

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AlexdeParis said:[quote]

SoulAlive said:


Babyface on Dangerous?

This little stunt reminds me of something I once heard about Janet.Back in the late 80s,after 'Control',A&M record exec John McCain (who now controls MJ's estate) suggested that Janet's next album be called "Scandal",dealing with the various scandals surrounding her family.He felt that it would be a huge seller.Needless to say,Janet was pissed and refused to do a project like that,lol.It just goes to show how some people close to the Jacksons were convincing them to exploit themselves and their family scandals to sell records.At least Janet was smart enough to say no!

Well... she did record "You Need Me" and release it as a b-side. wink


Those "Dangerous" tracks, were not released except for "On the line",(which I am not sure was written for that album, in the first place).
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Reply #34 posted 08/11/09 6:48am

SoulAlive

isn't "Gone Too Soon" a Babyface composition? hmmm
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Reply #35 posted 08/11/09 6:50am

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oops,my bad,it isn't lol
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Reply #36 posted 08/11/09 6:51am

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AlexdeParis said:[quote]

SoulAlive said:



This little stunt reminds me of something I once heard about Janet.Back in the late 80s,after 'Control',A&M record exec John McCain (who now controls MJ's estate) suggested that Janet's next album be called "Scandal",dealing with the various scandals surrounding her family.He felt that it would be a huge seller.Needless to say,Janet was pissed and refused to do a project like that,lol.It just goes to show how some people close to the Jacksons were convincing them to exploit themselves and their family scandals to sell records.At least Janet was smart enough to say no!

Well... she did record "You Need Me" and release it as a b-side. wink



"You Need Me"? Never heard it,is it about her family? wink
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Reply #37 posted 08/11/09 6:58am

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isn't "Gone Too Soon" a Babyface composition? hmmm


Nope, it isn't. He sang it during his "unplugged" special, though.
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Reply #38 posted 08/11/09 7:00am

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Yep! The version about Michael wasn't supposed to be heard but someone leaked it. Jermaine said that he only recorded it because that's how he was feeling at the time .. Then he went back in the studio and changed the second verse ..


I always thought that this was done in poor taste. If you have a problem with a sibling, keep it between the both of you. This is why I question Jermaine's and Latoya's "love", for Michael now.

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Reply #39 posted 08/11/09 7:02am

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AlexdeParis said:


Well... she did record "You Need Me" and release it as a b-side. wink



"You Need Me"? Never heard it,is it about her family? wink

eek I love that song. It was the b-side to "Miss You Much." It's a pretty scathing song about Joe.



As a child I missed on the love I never had
And daddy he was distant
Never there to hold my hand
Never bought the things he'd always promise to give me
Mother made up for him always watching over me
Days would go by and we would never see his face
In my mind I'd wonder "Does he have another place?"
If and when he'd come in he would always be upset
All the kids were scared his next syndrome would be a fret

Now that you are older and you begin to see
Family's important to be there if you need
Father never taught us these things mom said to me
Now the table's turned so tell me you need me

Tell me
Tell me
Tell me
Just admit
You need me

Daddy daddy dearest, what is it you want from me
(Tell me)
I won't turn my back on you the way you did with me
Now you try to give and always reaching out to grab
I'll give you what I can but I can't give what I don't have
Mother lends a shoulder, to cry on if you need
But are you there for mother when she needs your company?
Father never taught us, these things mom said to me
Now the table's turned so tell me
You need me

Tell me
Tell me
Tell me
Tell me
Say
You need me

If you realize we need each other, we will be a closer family.
I need you, yeah (you need me)
I need you, and you know that

Now that you are older and you begin to see
Family's important to be there if you need
Father never taught us, no no never taught us
Just admit
You need me

Tell me that you need me
Tell me that you love me
Tell me that you need me
Just admit
Say
You need me

Are you there for mother?
Are you there for mother?
Are you there for mother?
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Reply #40 posted 08/11/09 7:23am

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SoulAlive said:

AlexdeParis said:


Well... she did record "You Need Me" and release it as a b-side. wink



"You Need Me"? Never heard it,is it about her family? wink

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