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Reply #90 posted 08/11/09 8:04am

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NDRU said:

nd33 said:


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That said, I might like to hear a decent remixing of the early stuff in a more conventional stereo, rather than a drums on one side, vocals on the other type of mix.


Thats what I mean.....a natural "stereo" sound. As drums on one track on both sides...vocals layered in mono..other instruments in different channels / both channels...

I guess we have to hear it. I cant wait to see how different magical Mystery Tour sounds like..my favorite.
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Reply #91 posted 08/11/09 8:42am

Sdldawn

hmm i'm confused on which one i should get
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Reply #92 posted 08/11/09 2:20pm

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hmm i'm confused on which one i should get


As big a fan as you obviously are, you should have both. Fuck the recession, I'm definitely considering it.
[Edited 8/11/09 14:23pm]
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Reply #93 posted 08/11/09 2:24pm

nd33

paisleypark4 said:

NDRU said:





That said, I might like to hear a decent remixing of the early stuff in a more conventional stereo, rather than a drums on one side, vocals on the other type of mix.


Thats what I mean.....a natural "stereo" sound. As drums on one track on both sides...vocals layered in mono..other instruments in different channels / both channels...

I guess we have to hear it. I cant wait to see how different magical Mystery Tour sounds like..my favorite.


I haven't read anywhere that the stereo version will be remixed, only remastered.... Thus the panning will all be the same, drums left, vox right and so on...
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Reply #94 posted 08/11/09 4:27pm

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paisleypark4 said:



Thats what I mean.....a natural "stereo" sound. As drums on one track on both sides...vocals layered in mono..other instruments in different channels / both channels...

I guess we have to hear it. I cant wait to see how different magical Mystery Tour sounds like..my favorite.


I haven't read anywhere that the stereo version will be remixed, only remastered.... Thus the panning will all be the same, drums left, vox right and so on...


no, it's just a wish of mine (in case Paul & Ringo ever visit the org)
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Reply #95 posted 08/12/09 5:19am

SoulAlive

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Remastering The Beatles catalog
The re-mastering process commenced with an extensive period conducting tests before finally copying the analogue master tapes into the digital medium. When this was completed, the transfer was achieved using a Pro Tools workstation operating at 24 bit 192 kHz resolution via a Prism A-D converter. Transferring was a lengthy procedure done a track at a time. Although EMI tape does not suffer the oxide loss associated with some later analogue tapes, there was nevertheless a slight build up of dust, which was removed from the tape machine heads between each title.
From the onset, considerable thought was given to what audio restorative processes were going to be allowed. It was agreed that electrical clicks, microphone vocal pops, excessive sibilance and bad edits should be improved where possible, so long as it didn’t impact on the original integrity of the songs.

In addition, de-noising technology, which is often associated with re-mastering, was to be used, but subtly and sparingly. Eventually, less than five of the 525 minutes of Beatles music was subjected to this process. Finally, as is common with today’s music, overall limiting - to increase the volume level of the CD - has been used, but on the stereo versions only. However, it was unanimously agreed that because of the importance of The Beatles’ music, limiting would be used moderately, so as to retain the original dynamics of the recordings.

When all of the albums had been transferred, each song was then listened to several times to locate any of the agreed imperfections. These were then addressed by Guy Massey, working with Audio Restoration engineer Simon Gibson.

Mastering could now take place, once the earliest vinyl pressings, along with the existing CDs, were loaded into Pro Tools, thus allowing comparisons to be made with the original master tapes during the equalization process. When an album had been completed, it was auditioned the next day in studio three –a room familiar to the engineers, as all of the recent Beatles mixing projects had taken place in there – and any further alteration of EQ could be addressed back in the mastering room. Following the initial satisfaction of Guy and Steve, Allan Rouse and Mike Heatley then checked each new re-master in yet another location and offered any further suggestions. This continued until all 13 albums were completed to the team’s satisfaction.

http://www.beatles-histor...tered.html



I ordered the mono set yesterday:


I'll be getting the stereo set a bit later...

cool



hmmm so it looks like the mono box set has different packaging? No black box?
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Reply #96 posted 08/12/09 7:14am

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hmmm so it looks like the mono box set has different packaging? No black box?

Different packaging, different mix, different mastering.

Stereo in black, mono in white.

Stereo:
Box Set Includes:
-Hard black glossy lift top with magnet clasp
-All 13 Studio remasters plus Past Masters
-CD's are packaged in three panel digi-pak with digital mini documentaries






Mono:
Box Set Includes:
-Hard white glossy slip box
-Limited edition and numbered (10,000) -CD's packaged as mini LP replicas (replica artwork, sleeves and gatefolds)
-Original Mono versions of 11 albums (12 discs)

*Yellow Submarine, Abbey Road and Let It Be are not included as they were originally recorded in Stereo.



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Reply #97 posted 08/12/09 7:33am

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I just can't get down with the mono version. It's ridiculous that it costs more and you'd still have to buy 2 or 3 more discs. disbelief
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Reply #98 posted 08/12/09 8:45am

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I just can't get down with the mono version. It's ridiculous that it costs more and you'd still have to buy 2 or 3 more discs. disbelief

Go'n wit ya bad self then and rock those novelty stereo mixes lol
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Reply #99 posted 08/12/09 9:42am

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Maybe I'm just not that much of an audiophile but I like the sound of the Beatles masters I have. Recently I have been replacing all of my mp3s with FLAC but I haven't paid that much attention to which master/remaster I have of each album. The difference from mp3 to FLAC is certainly radical (granted a lot of the stuff I had was transcoded) but other than in a few select cases I haven't really paid attention to the issue/master of the albums, although I've taken some arguably fastidious steps to ensure that I knew the stuff I was getting from downloads was really lossless and not transcoded.
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Reply #100 posted 08/12/09 9:54am

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AlexdeParis said:

I just can't get down with the mono version. It's ridiculous that it costs more and you'd still have to buy 2 or 3 more discs. disbelief


that IS crazy, but I listened to Lady Madonna last night in the headphones, and I was thinking the stereo mix was just weird lol

I think I'm getting mono.
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Reply #101 posted 08/12/09 10:04am

Sdldawn

wish'd they compile both boxes for the super fans
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Reply #102 posted 08/12/09 11:22am

AlexdeParis

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NDRU said:

AlexdeParis said:

I just can't get down with the mono version. It's ridiculous that it costs more and you'd still have to buy 2 or 3 more discs. disbelief


that IS crazy, but I listened to Lady Madonna last night in the headphones, and I was thinking the stereo mix was just weird lol

I think I'm getting mono.

I'm refusing to listen to any of my Beatles stuff (with the possible exception of Love) until the remasters are released.
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Reply #103 posted 08/12/09 11:53am

datdude

i own NO beatles stuff! won't start now either with the Remasters. two words for them OVER-RATED!!!!!
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Reply #104 posted 08/12/09 1:33pm

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datdude said:

i own NO beatles stuff! won't start now either with the Remasters. two words for them OVER-RATED!!!!!


Oh, I see you're DAT dude! lol
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Reply #105 posted 08/12/09 2:06pm

SoulAlive

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wish'd they compile both boxes for the super fans


Yeah,I wish we could get mono and stereo remasters in the same box set.
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Reply #106 posted 08/12/09 2:16pm

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SoulAlive said:

Sdldawn said:

wish'd they compile both boxes for the super fans


Yeah,I wish we could get mono and stereo remasters in the same box set.


as I mentioned, my copy of Pet Sounds has both versions on a single disc, albums were so short back then.
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Reply #107 posted 08/12/09 2:26pm

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shit amessing fallinluv
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Reply #108 posted 08/12/09 2:27pm

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Yeah,I wish we could get mono and stereo remasters in the same box set.


as I mentioned, my copy of Pet Sounds has both versions on a single disc, albums were so short back then.


nod extremely short.

It would have been really easy to place both versions of each album on single discs.
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Reply #109 posted 08/12/09 3:03pm

CrozzaUK

Im a little confused. Are the stereo mixes simply the digital remasters of the original stereo mixes (ie drums on side - vocals the other) or are they given the stereo treatment with a modern technique? Have they kept the integrity of all the original mixes and simply digitally remastered it, or has it be re-mixed at all? If not ill definitely opt for the mono mixes as i hate the stereo mixing from the majority of their albums.
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Reply #110 posted 08/12/09 3:30pm

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CrozzaUK said:

Im a little confused. Are the stereo mixes simply the digital remasters of the original stereo mixes (ie drums on side - vocals the other) or are they given the stereo treatment with a modern technique? Have they kept the integrity of all the original mixes and simply digitally remastered it, or has it be re-mixed at all? If not ill definitely opt for the mono mixes as i hate the stereo mixing from the majority of their albums.


I've been wondering the exact same question myself.

If they're just cleaner louder recreations of the original stereo mixes, I think I'll pass. However, if they're actual remixes (like the Yellow Submarine Songtrack remixes), I want them. Badly.
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Reply #111 posted 08/12/09 4:03pm

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I am pretty sure there is no remixing going on here, and if there is, they re-created the original mixes as closely as possible.
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Reply #112 posted 08/12/09 4:45pm

nd33

GirlBrother said:

CrozzaUK said:

Im a little confused. Are the stereo mixes simply the digital remasters of the original stereo mixes (ie drums on side - vocals the other) or are they given the stereo treatment with a modern technique? Have they kept the integrity of all the original mixes and simply digitally remastered it, or has it be re-mixed at all? If not ill definitely opt for the mono mixes as i hate the stereo mixing from the majority of their albums.


I've been wondering the exact same question myself.

If they're just cleaner louder recreations of the original stereo mixes, I think I'll pass. However, if they're actual remixes (like the Yellow Submarine Songtrack remixes), I want them. Badly.


just remastering from all reports I've read.
If the songs were being remixed no doubt we'd be hearing hype on how freaking awesomely amazingly incredible the brand new stereo mixes are!
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Reply #113 posted 08/13/09 4:28am

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nd33 said:

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I've been wondering the exact same question myself.

If they're just cleaner louder recreations of the original stereo mixes, I think I'll pass. However, if they're actual remixes (like the Yellow Submarine Songtrack remixes), I want them. Badly.


just remastering from all reports I've read.
If the songs were being remixed no doubt we'd be hearing hype on how freaking awesomely amazingly incredible the brand new stereo mixes are!


I guess that is the next step in their ingenous drip feeding of releases to keep wave after wave of their catalogue selling. Itll probably happen in 10 years time. Dayumn - no wonder Paul McCartney is so rich!
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Reply #114 posted 08/13/09 11:13am

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...drip feeding of releases

yeah, no kidding! 10 years have gone by again, are we salivating enough yet?! drool drool drooling
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Reply #115 posted 08/13/09 11:18am

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I was messing with my own music last night going back & forth from mono to stereo. Mono is indeed louder (or it has that effect). Stereo is softer. I am definitely curious to hear these mono cd's.
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Reply #116 posted 08/14/09 2:42pm

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So who's getting mono on 09/09/09??

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Reply #117 posted 08/14/09 3:19pm

realm

I gotta say. I enjoy anything from MFSL (mobile fidelity sound lab). IMO they do excellent remasters.

If you are looking around for the Beatles remasters..look for MFSL remasters. Yep.
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Reply #118 posted 08/14/09 11:46pm

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At first I would have chosen the stereo box without a second thought, but after reading the reviews here, I may go for the mono box instead and just buy Abbey Road separately.

What is the deal with the digital mini documentaries on the stereo box that aren't in the mono box? hmmm
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Reply #119 posted 08/15/09 4:42am

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Amazon.com have already sold-out the mono box set.

http://www.amazon.com/Bea...180&sr=1-1

Important Beatles "Mono Box Set" Message
The Beatles Mono Box Set is a limited production item, and we are sold out, but we have the Beatles Stereo Box Set available for pre-order. Visit our Beatles Store to shop the Beatles remastered CDs, The Beatles: Rock Band, DVDs, books, and so much more.


It was so stupid of EMI to make this a limited release... And the record companies can't understand why music lovers share stuff on the net. neutral
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