NDRU said:

haven't heard the remastered Help! remix, outside of the original 1987 CD release. so I can't comment.

however, if they were to do modern stereo (re)mixes for all of the albums instead of using the original stereo masters, I'd probably end up buying them all 3 times

NDRU said:

My favorite Beatle is Yoko.

NDRU said:

I even bought the Love CD/DVD-audio at the same time, I got so caught up in this Beatlemania.

sextonseven said:

I somehow thought it necessary to buy both Let It Be remastered and Let It Be...Naked on the same night and that's like my least favorite in all its incarnations.

sextonseven said:

I need to go back and see the show again in Vegas. When we went, they had a problem with the stage half-way through and had to cancel the show (luckily they gave full refunds). But the sound was AMAZING in the theater, it gave me chills a few times.

Heck, I'm so old I can remember being excited to get to ride the city bus downtown to see Help! in the theater. My older sisters took me and swore if I cried, they'd never take me anywhere again.

errant said:

you guys are making me feel relatively healthy. I have been telling myself, "not now, you know those albums like the back of your hand, and a bit more clarity in the guitar won't change that!"

sextonseven said:

"you become naked"

NDRU said:

Yeah, I hear ya. I got all excited after reading how wonderful the Mono set is and impulsively put in an order. Today, I re-thought that decision and cancelled it and just ordered a few of the stereo discs. It's not like I have time to sit and listen to all those albums thoroughly on headphones anyway.

NDRU said:

oh, but it does!

errant said:

Sgt. Pepper's, Help!, Rubber Soul and A Hard Day's Night today.


fucking Target. on sale for 11.98 and if you buy 2 at a time, you get a $5 gift card.

errant said:

Holy shit, really?!!

errant said:

Crap, now I know where I'll be tomorrow...I promised myself when these came out I wouldn't buy them all at once....but yesterday got White Album and Revolver. Tomorrow, Abbey Road, Help, Bealtes for Sale, and Past Masters at Target...and I just ordered Sgt Pepper, Rubber Soul, and Magical Mystery Tour on Amazon. I am hopeless...completely hopeless. Damn those Beatles

Poplife88 said:

and I promised myself I'd wait for the mono box. and then I thought, well, I'll probably end up getting the individual stereo discs too, but I'll take my time and spread it out... and now, who the hell knows how long this Target deal will last, so I imagine by the weekend I'll have them all
[Edited 9/16/09 17:08pm]

NDRU said:

It does. Panned much less obnoxiously. I really can't stand hearing drums only in my left ear...really grating.

MendesCity said:

Agreed.

For the person who asked about "Don't Let Me Down," it sounds great either way. It's my all-time favorite Beatles song, so I tested it first. I couldn't decide, but I guess I'd pick mono if forced to choose.

Either or. If pushed, I'd say stereo, where there's marginally more space and life.

There's certainly nothing in the mono mix that screams 'drastic improvement', if that's what you're suggesting.

One mono mix I do love is 'Hey Bulldog'. I've always loved the song despite the stereo mix being almost unlistenable.
[Edited 9/17/09 5:33am]

NDRU said:

from http://www.beatlesnews.co...icago.html




On another note, my Box Of Vision arrived yesterday!

TyphoonTip said:

all the new tracks on Yellow Submarine suffered on the previous '87 CD release. almost unlistenable and some pretty good songs on there. the Harrison tracks were particularly mind-boggling in their shittiness. they are much improved. and i'm finding myself enjoying them more from the Mono Masters disc than on the stereo version of the album.

does anyone know... are the mono mixes of the Yellow Submarine songs just fold downs of the stereo version, since that's the only way it was released at the time? I know they were planning a mono EP of Beatles-only songs in 1969 from Yellow Submarine, but it was scrapped. the album was released in stereo, and the mono EP was just going to be a fold-down of the stereo mixes.

but I wonder if the mono mixes of these tracks on Mono Masters are those or if they are from earlier on. like... were they *originally* mixed in mono? since the album came out so much later than the songs were initially mixed for the film and actually some time after the film, I wonder if maybe these are earlier, more careful mono mixes than what would have appeared on the cancelled YS EP.

errant said:

from http://www.beatlesnews.co...icago.html :

PsychedelicGoof said:

cool, thanks!

NDRU said:

I never skip over that song.

I got an email notice saying my mono box shipped this week!

errant said:

have them all now. AND. put in an order for the mono box.

i hate myself

So, I've decided the definitive Revolver is mono with "Tomorrow Never Knows" in stereo. I'm going all-mono for the first 2 albums and Sgt. Pepper. Now I'm going to compile the rest of the albums track-by-track. I think I'm going to have the hardest time with Help!, because that's the album where I think stereo really shines.

I've been picking apart the stereo White Album, Revolver, Magical Mystery, and Abbey Road all week.


I actually prefer Magical Mystery in stereo, simply because the experimentation of those songs, it almost sounds as if they were made for stereo.. i like the back and forth in the speakers for the most part in those songs.


having said that, Mono's sound better with headphones of virtually all of them to me.

Sdldawn said:

Well, I like the stereo effects on a lot of that album's songs, but I'm not sure they're worth having the drums shifted to one side... particularly songs when the backing harmonies are also panned. "I Am the Walrus" and "Strawberry Fields Forever" are great in stereo, but they're great in mono as well. "All You Need Is Love," "Penny Lane," "Baby You're a Rich Man," and especially "Your Mother Should Know" are better in mono IMO, but I've only listened a couple of times.


Yeah, I think that's where I am as well. So far, "Tomorrow Never Knows" is the one song I definitely prefer in stereo. As happy as I am with these releases, I still wish they had remixed them. Vocals and drums in the center would go a long way towards making the stereo versions significantly better.
[Edited 9/19/09 20:20pm]

also Helter Skelter.. Overall I prefer the stereo because the drums can be heard better.. I do dig the extra effects in the mono tho..

AlexdeParis said:

that'll be next, i'm sure. after a new definitive best-of to replace Red & Blue and 1, utilizing these remasters.

fortunately or unfortunately, depending on your financial statement whatever month/year it is they get around to it. it could be another 20 years after all.

on the other hand, so much of that mid-60's stuff used very primitive tracking and who knows what survives of the original 4-tracks that got bounced down to one track when they needed more tracks for other instruments, etc. if the only thing that remains is a track with all the vocals, a track with all the instruments, etc, instead of the original tracks that when into creating those single tracks on the eventual master, we may just be stuck with these sub-standard primitive stereo mixes forever.

although i don't remember "Love" suffering from that, so hopefully they kept EVERYTHING.

The re(mix) of All You Need Is Love from the Love album is the most superior version out. (aside from the ending splices)

I just came across a freeware font that's a dead ringer for the Apple Corps. typeface.

If you're interested, it's here:
http://moorstation.org/ty...nslite.htm

errant said:

Between Love and the Yellow Submarine Songtrack, I think we can assume they have access to just about everything. Like one of those articles mentions, some of the mixes for the songtrack are definitive ("Eleanor Rigby" for sure).