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Reply #390 posted 09/13/09 10:29am

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Back to the remasters!

I JUST ORERED THE MONO SET!

After reading extensive reviews and even all the opinions on here as you were listening... it seems there are certain songs on each set that excel and fail in the remastering.. but since the Fabs intended for certain songs and albums to be heard in mono... I think I need those. shrug And definitely Abbey in stereo.
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Reply #391 posted 09/13/09 11:06am

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Mindbells9 said:

Ok dig: I'm a 27 year old black male from Detroit.I've been curious about the music of the Beatles and I am familiar with only a handful of their songs and some of their individual solo work.I own a Beatles TShirt and poster,but not one cd lol!I've been wanting 2 purchase one,but not sure where 2 begin.What would be a good first choice? Something psychadelic and experimental but melodic is what I'm looking 4.Shame on me 4 just now taking an interest in them,I know lol.Can anyone point me in the right direction?


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Reply #392 posted 09/13/09 11:49am

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Copycat said:

The term 'corporation' is 'corp' when shortened (no 's'); however a 'corps' refers to a branch of service or a body of persons organized for a common goal, such as the Peace Corps or the press corps.


Oh! I never knew. I thought it was an abbreviation for "corporation" I never realised it was "corps" as in "peace corps". I feel so stupid.

The English language is a bitch at times.
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Reply #393 posted 09/13/09 11:52am

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errant said:

approximately 235,000 units sold in the US in the first 2 days.

holy crap.

Of all the collections? I wonder how great that is? I thought each album would sell an average of 100K.

I meant to say "their" label. Shame on me for that one!
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Reply #394 posted 09/13/09 12:14pm

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VinnyM27 said:

errant said:

approximately 235,000 units sold in the US in the first 2 days.

holy crap.

Of all the collections? I wonder how great that is? I thought each album would sell an average of 100K.

I meant to say "their" label. Shame on me for that one!



that includes everything in the first 2 days, so both box sets are also thrown in there. i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the stereo with all the albums does very well. it'll be interesting to see how much the mono box scanned, to get an idea of how many copies were actually distributed. there is some discrepency whether it was 10,000 total or 10,000 for each major retailer or 10,000 worldwide. the article i read said that Abbey Road was the single disc leader in the first two days. which would make sense because he people holding out for the mono box need to pick it up anyway. that's how i did it....

the boxes can chart on the main 200 albums chart, since they are seen as new releases, while the individual CD's will go on the catalog chart.
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Reply #395 posted 09/13/09 4:11pm

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GirlBrother said:

Copycat said:

The term 'corporation' is 'corp' when shortened (no 's'); however a 'corps' refers to a branch of service or a body of persons organized for a common goal, such as the Peace Corps or the press corps.


Oh! I never knew. I thought it was an abbreviation for "corporation" I never realised it was "corps" as in "peace corps". I feel so stupid.

The English language is a bitch at times.


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Reply #396 posted 09/13/09 4:16pm

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POOK said:

GirlBrother said:



Oh! I never knew. I thought it was an abbreviation for "corporation" I never realised it was "corps" as in "peace corps". I feel so stupid.

The English language is a bitch at times.


YEAH BUT THAT LATIN ROOT

IT MEAN BODY

BUT WHAT POOK KNOW!

nod "Corpus" = "body"
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Reply #397 posted 09/13/09 4:19pm

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well....

I wasn't able to find a copy of the box locally and i'm not willing to wait for it online, so I ended up buying all the individual discs today.

I'm making my way through them. Unbelievable. But I must have the mono box.
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Reply #398 posted 09/13/09 5:28pm

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Oh man, just got a hold of these. Truly amazing, they really do sound like new songs.

I'd actually buy the mono set if it were like 75 bucks cheaper! If anyone's thinking about shelling out but can just do one, get the mono. Just jaw-dropping.
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Reply #399 posted 09/13/09 7:47pm

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Great listen, NPR All Things Considered:

http://www.npr.org/templa...=112652937
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Reply #400 posted 09/14/09 3:36am

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OK, I'm going to go through the mono versions with a fine tooth comb over the next week.

I've got an open mind, and I'm hoping I will love them. But I've lived with the stereo versions for SOOOO LONG, they're imprinted on my brain. biggrin

We'll see.

(....I'm most looking forward to the mono mix of Rubber Soul. The stereo mix of some tracks have always bothered me.)
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Reply #401 posted 09/14/09 4:29am

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so to mono or not to mono?

thoughts people?

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Reply #402 posted 09/14/09 5:40am

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so to mono or not to mono?

thoughts people?

Swa


See post 386 of this thread and then just try to tell me Lucy sounds better in stereo...I'll say go back to Kansas, Swa! Even on F'n youtube you can tell the new mono master is breathtaking.
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Reply #403 posted 09/14/09 8:02am

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well, a few of the albums sound obnoxious in stereo after hearing them in mono.

i think some people will prefer some of the albums in mono.
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Reply #404 posted 09/14/09 9:12am

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Sdldawn said:

well, a few of the albums sound obnoxious in stereo after hearing them in mono.

i think some people will prefer some of the albums in mono.


Yeah, it's really weird how used to the stereo I was, but now I'm definitely going to make the mono version my standard for most of these.

The one that seems to sound better in stereo is Magical Mystery tour
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Reply #405 posted 09/14/09 9:13am

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Weird that Back in the USSR sounds so much better in mono.

The mono ones just have this punkier edge to them, somehow.
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Reply #406 posted 09/14/09 10:38am

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Sdldawn said:

well, a few of the albums sound obnoxious in stereo after hearing them in mono.

i think some people will prefer some of the albums in mono.


I think not making the Mono widely available as individual albums (if that's what happens) is a big mistake.

I put on the new Stereo version of Revolver in the headphones, and it really stuck me how silly it is to update the music & leave the ridiculous mixes of instruments to one side, voices in the middle, and one guitar solo to the other side (as on Taxman)

Other songs, like Here There & Everywhere, sounded great. But the false stereo is not the true mix. It's just what most of us heard.
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Reply #407 posted 09/14/09 12:26pm

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MendesCity said:

Weird that Back in the USSR sounds so much better in mono.

The mono ones just have this punkier edge to them, somehow.


Not weird at all - its the way they were intended to be heard.
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Reply #408 posted 09/14/09 12:28pm

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MendesCity said:

Weird that Back in the USSR sounds so much better in mono.

The mono ones just have this punkier edge to them, somehow.


I've compared the difference in my own music, and mono sounds louder, stereo sounds softer. I would not be surprised that the music rocks just a bit more in mono. Consider that the drums will be in both speakers for once! lol
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Reply #409 posted 09/14/09 1:33pm

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NDRU said:

MendesCity said:

Weird that Back in the USSR sounds so much better in mono.

The mono ones just have this punkier edge to them, somehow.


I've compared the difference in my own music, and mono sounds louder, stereo sounds softer. I would not be surprised that the music rocks just a bit more in mono. Consider that the drums will be in both speakers for once! lol


They are louder, huh? As Sdldawn already mentioned, however, in Helter Skelter the drums are mixed lower, and while I agree it doesn't rock quite as hard, it has a much more experimental edge.

There do seem to be weird tracks here and there that I prefer in stero. Some of the Help stuff, for instance. Think it's because they're not panned so far apart.
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Reply #410 posted 09/14/09 1:38pm

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i will say this.. Helter Skelter doesn't rock that hard in mono.. the drums are diminished.. i want those drums loud.


other than that.. mono rocks!
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Reply #411 posted 09/14/09 1:39pm

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MendesCity said:

Sdldawn said:

well, a few of the albums sound obnoxious in stereo after hearing them in mono.

i think some people will prefer some of the albums in mono.


Yeah, it's really weird how used to the stereo I was, but now I'm definitely going to make the mono version my standard for most of these.

The one that seems to sound better in stereo is Magical Mystery tour



agreed. I purchased the stereo disks yesterday and there is a certain clarity in this stereo release that makes it worthwhile
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Reply #412 posted 09/14/09 1:46pm

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MendesCity said:

NDRU said:



I've compared the difference in my own music, and mono sounds louder, stereo sounds softer. I would not be surprised that the music rocks just a bit more in mono. Consider that the drums will be in both speakers for once! lol


They are louder, huh? As Sdldawn already mentioned, however, in Helter Skelter the drums are mixed lower, and while I agree it doesn't rock quite as hard, it has a much more experimental edge.

There do seem to be weird tracks here and there that I prefer in stero. Some of the Help stuff, for instance. Think it's because they're not panned so far apart.



Well, the stereo ones are basically what we've been listening to for 40 years, and they've been pretty well received lol

But there are some that just sound odd in certain situations--say, if you are sitting next to only one speaker. But on the average stereo, the stereo versions are still beatles albums!
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Reply #413 posted 09/14/09 2:03pm

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Sdldawn said:

i will say this.. Helter Skelter doesn't rock that hard in mono.. the drums are diminished.. i want those drums loud.


other than that.. mono rocks!


I'm pretty much preferring all of the White Album in stereo
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Reply #414 posted 09/14/09 2:41pm

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Swa said:

so to mono or not to mono?

thoughts people?

Swa


Seems like the way to go is to get the mono box set and then follow up with certain albums in stereo which you can buy indiviually.

This review (posted earlier in this thread) really breaks it down:


http://www.musicradar.com...-66-219124

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Reply #415 posted 09/14/09 2:42pm

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MendesCity said:

Sdldawn said:

i will say this.. Helter Skelter doesn't rock that hard in mono.. the drums are diminished.. i want those drums loud.


other than that.. mono rocks!


I'm pretty much preferring all of the White Album in stereo


Maybe that way it was recorded was more suited for it. I think at that point stereo was catching on, and they recorded much of it on 8 track.
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Reply #416 posted 09/14/09 2:48pm

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NDRU said:

MendesCity said:



I'm pretty much preferring all of the White Album in stereo


Maybe that way it was recorded was more suited for it. I think at that point stereo was catching on, and they recorded much of it on 8 track.


My tally for preferable formats at this point (if I had to choose one):

Everything mono except for Help, Magical Mystery Tour, White Album (and then of course the later ones).
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Reply #417 posted 09/14/09 3:44pm

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NDRU said:

Sdldawn said:

well, a few of the albums sound obnoxious in stereo after hearing them in mono.

i think some people will prefer some of the albums in mono.


I think not making the Mono widely available as individual albums (if that's what happens) is a big mistake.

nod I posted the same thing earlier. While there are select songs that sound great in stereo, I think all of the albums as a whole are better in mono.
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Reply #418 posted 09/14/09 5:25pm

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Sdldawn said:

MendesCity said:



Yeah, it's really weird how used to the stereo I was, but now I'm definitely going to make the mono version my standard for most of these.

The one that seems to sound better in stereo is Magical Mystery tour



agreed. I purchased the stereo disks yesterday and there is a certain clarity in this stereo release that makes it worthwhile


Because $ is tight for me I've only purchased Magical Mystery Tour in stereo.
I've always been a stereo guy but you guys are making very compelling arguments for some of the mono versions.
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Reply #419 posted 09/14/09 6:22pm

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MendesCity said:

Sdldawn said:

i will say this.. Helter Skelter doesn't rock that hard in mono.. the drums are diminished.. i want those drums loud.


other than that.. mono rocks!


I'm pretty much preferring all of the White Album in stereo

eek Really? I thought "Back in the U.S.S.R." had terrible separation and "Martha My Dear" is even worse (man, almost the first 20 seconds are left only). I find the Harrison songs sound good in stereo, but I'm just not a fan of vocals pushed hard to one side (see the chorus of "Happiness Is a Warm Gun"). I think it's interesting that George's lead vocals are almost always at or near the center of the mix.
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