VoicesCarry said:

daPrettyman said:

has she composed any of her music? Came up with any of her dance rountines all by herself? Sung live without whispering or sounding off key? What about ideas for her music videos? All her ideas?

VoicesCarry said:

she's just fake bottom line. when was the album supposed to be realeased?
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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

I'm not a Janet-Know-It-All, but I do know that Janet has writing credit on all of her albums from Control - 20YO. Here is the BMI search result for Janet's published songs: http://repertoire.bmi.com...e=79045950

I know she hires choreographers to come up with routines for her songs. Most times, for videos, the directors and/or producers come us with the concept along with the artist.

To me, Janet is not a bad live singer. She usually sings a few songs during her show and they aren't bad. Here she is on Rosie in 97.

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WOW, it really is a deep-seated hate with Bootylicious, isn't it? To even MENTION Janet and Mariah performace-wise in the same sentence is insulting to Janet. I happened to catch Mariah's Mimi concert on tv last week, and my mouth was literally agape the entire time at her sheer lack of stage presence. I could not believe my eyes. I actually felt for the people in the audience. I want to go to a show and be entertained, not watch someone wearing a thong and a table napkin do a cutesey princess walk back and forth across the stage. She didn't even break a glisten, let alone a sweat! Nothing against her, but I'd rather listen to her cds than see her live, and that is a fact! And if anyone needs to change her stee-lo it's Mariah, who not only has the same look on EVERY album, but same logo, same butterfly theme, same video directors, etc. And, getting back to Janet, she has co-written or written mostly EVERYTHING since Control. And you ask "what has she written?" GAH! And Black Cat was a song that she wrote alone, and co-produced, and it was one of her #1 hits. No one is trolling anything, just telling it like it is. You seem to have some sort of grudge against the woman. Why begrudge her because she was born into connections? She is talented, and that is why she became a superstar. Period. And don't give me that "Jackson name" crap, because the other siblings have the "Jackson name" as well, and where did their careers go? As I've said, don't make me give u her stats, 'cause I will.

Just a taste of what you get at a Janet show...


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shorttrini said:

WE GET IT! You need to get your ears checked!!!

SEANMAN said:

I will to!! Shall we begin??

I think Bootylick is mad that Janet didn't pick her for the Discipline segement

midiscover said:

LOL!

SEANMAN said:

Don't waste your time... Mariah (whom i happen to like) wished she can perform like Ms Jackson

banks said:

paula abdul outperforms her. Paula can dance her ass off and dances circles around Janet. By the way, didn't Paula choregraph a lot of Janet's music videos and dance rountines?

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Haha! You're not even trying to hide your hatred. Yes, Paula did choreograph some of Janet's videos. And your point is? What is the reason for your obvious disdain of Janet? I'm curious to know.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Paula who???



This is a part of the chapter out of Joe Jackson's book, "The Jackson's" that was published in Germany


I liked to see again Janet dancing on a stage. She has just recorded the first album, and she could be seen on TV all over the world.
Paula Abdul once claimed that she was the one who tought Janet to dance. Together with my son Jackie, Paula has developed a choreography for one of Janet's videos. This video has received an MTV award for the best choreography (it was in the middle of 80s). Paula was so happy about the award that she jumped of joy when her named was declared on stage of the Universal Amphitheater. After that Paula's agent July has received many offers, and I was very glad for Paula.
I still remember, how we once talked at our place, and she has asked me how do I think she has to build her career. I have answered her: " Paula, you should try yourself as the singer ".
Obviously, she has thought of it and has then signed her own contract with Virgin. It is pleasant for me to realize, that our family has inspired Paula, probably even helped her. Therefore it seemed to me shameless from her side when she has told, that she was the one who tought Janet to dance. It is impossible to say that! a little of choreography for the video and a real dance lesson - it's two different things. Janet anyway was not very happy when she read Paula's statement in the press. And I personally thought, that Paula have gone too far.
Among ours early family photos there is one on which Janet is about 3 years old, she observes her brothers in studio. From the date of the birth she was present on rehearsals of boys and since she is a good observer, she for certain learned from them. She too began to act early - in Las Vegas she was in fact was only 7 years. She already could dance, when was still a baby, she has grown with it, as well as Michael. Katherine also today tells a story how Michael, stood in front of the washig machine with a bottle in his hand and moved in the rythm of it.
In any case no stranger tought Janet to dance, she done it herself..
Though she had some good performances in "Fame", after a while she has wanted to do something else. Probably, someone outside the family has persuaded her to leave the show. I thought it was a mistake, that she left it, but could not prevent it. Besides this serie did so much for her, and she put a lot into it. And besides, she looked very good in "Fame".
There an episode where Janet sings " Dream street ", a song about her purpose and about becoming a star. Everyone who saw her there, have understood, how talanted she is. She has enclosed all her soul in her fine voice.

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Bullshit.. now you really bugging... Paula whom i saw on her one tour can't hold a candle to that chick... Paula doesnt stick her moves like JJ... she created the choreopraphy for Control and JJ took that shit and ran wit it

SEANMAN - I think we should post Janet's stats to shut this hater up

SEANMAN said:

I agree about Mimi. I went to the tour in Dallas and was floored at how bad her stage prescence was. She did not command the stage at all. I LOVE Mimi and Janet. I just think JJ knows how to work the stage better than Mimi.

I bought the Mimi DVD because I thought that maybe I just saw a bad show. Well, I was wrong. The DVD captured what I remember about the show.

daPrettyman said:

Shit everybody knows that Mariah can't deliver Live... and i'm not talking vocals..She doesnt know how to ENTERTAIN... She got my money once but never again.. I have all that chicks cd's but i will never pay money to see her LIVE

To the haters, you just need to recognize and show some respect. Janet has set records that have yet to be broken, and likely never will ("Rhythm Nation 1814" spawned 7 top 10 singles, and is the only album in history other than MJ's "Thriller" and Springsteen's "Born in the USA" to do so, but RN did them one better, because BITUSA and Thriller's 7 singles went top 10, RN's all went top 5; her RN tour was the highest-grossing debut tour by ANY artist in history; she was the first female artist to have #1 hits in the 80s, 90s and 2000s; the "janet." album was the first album since the inception of Soundscan to debut at #1; she was the first female to sign two of the largest recording contracts in history; when "When I Think of You" reached #1 in 1986, it made Janet and her brother Michael the first, and so far, only siblings to both have solo number-one hits on the Hot 100. At the time she was twenty years old, which made her the youngest artist since Stevie Wonder to top the Billboard Hot 100...). All of her studio albums since 1986's "Control" (8 total) have debuted in the top 2, with 6 of them debuting at #1. Her last cd debuted at #1 and gave her her 19th #1 dance club hit, and 26th top 20 pop hit. Her song "All For You" made history by being the first single ever to be added to every major format of radio on the day of its release. She is just under Aretha, Stevie Wonder and James Brown for most #1 R&B hits, surpassing Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Marvin Gaye and even her late brother Michael. She has starred in 3 consecutive movies, soon to be 4, that have all debuted at #1 at the box office (no other actor-singer can lay claim to this). She has been in the business longer than most of her female contemporaries, having begun her career in the 70s. She's toured the world over. She's the only member of her family to be nominated for an Academy Award. She's won Grammys, an Emmy (Velvet Rope Tour), a Best Actress NAACP award just last year, and a slew of other awards. Her iconic 1993 Rolling Stone cover has been imitated numerous times, proving her pop-culture influence (*see below). She was MTV's first "official" ICON. She more than held her own in a music video with her brother Michael, the undisputed King of Pop, where another artist may not have been able to. Her song "Nasty" coined the phrase "Janet, Miss Jackson if you're nasty" (a moniker [Miss Jackson] she is still referred to today), inspired a TV show in the 80s called "Nasty Boys," a WWF wresting team called The Nasty Boys, and her hit single "Come Back to Me" was heavily sampled in Plies feat. Neyo's top ten Hot 100 hit "Bust it Baby" last year, these things also proving her long-standing influence on pop-culture. In 2008, MTV's America's Best Dance Crew aired a special Janet Jackson Challenge week, in which different teams performed Janet-inspired routines to her songs. Janet's music encompasses pop, Europop, house, R&B, hip-hop, rock, adult-contemporary, big band/swing, opera, and even techno. Her videos are innovative. Her style ever-changing. Her choreography is the inspiration for most of the young chicks you see out here in the game today (don't believe? check these videos out...)




She inspired female artists in the 80s:(Vanessa Williams, Karyn White, Lisa Lisa, Jody Watley and, even Paula Abdul, ALL had that signature "Janet" look/style/sound going on, just check their videos; Rosie Perez even rocked Janet choreography on Soul Train back in the day) 90s:(TLC, Brandy, the late Aaliyah, and Carmen Electra have all cited her as an influence--Kylie Minogue as well, who even sampled "Control" in one of her own songs) 2000s:(Rihanna, Britney, Christina, Jennifer Lopez, Jessica Simpson, Cassie, Nelly Furtado, Ciara, and, yes, even Beyonce, have not only been compared to her, but have all cited her as an influence, and a quick look at their videos and stage performances makes this evident. Even Kelly Clarkson, as recently as the beginning of this month, covered Janet's "If" in concert). Actresses Gabrielle Union and Keishia Knight Pullium have done interviews speaking on their admiration of her. She's been the first-pick for several film roles that, because of prior commitments, she could not accept (Bryan Singer wanted her for the role of Storm in "X-Men," but at the time she was touring with The Velvet Rope; the role Mariah got in "Tennessee" originally belonged to Janet). "Diff'rent Strokes" and "Fame" came down to Rae Dawn Chong and Melissa Etheridge, respectively, along with Janet, and history tells us who won those parts. She has won more Billboard Awards than any other artist. Check the list:

Janet Jackson 33 Awards
Mariah Carey - 28 Awards
Michael Jackson - 26 Awards
Whitney Houston - 25 Awards
Garth Brooks - 25 Awards
Backstreet Boys - 24 Awards
Usher - 19 Awards
Alicia Keys - 17 Awards
Madonna - 16 Awards
Shakira - 16 Awards
Destiny's Child - 16 Awards
Carrie Underwood - 14 Awards
Usher - 13 Awards
50 cent - 13 Awards
LeAnn Rimes - 12 Awards
Kelly Clarkson - 12 Awards
Mary J. Blige - 10 Awards

You can call her whatever you want, say whatever you'd like about her. Say Superbowl this, flop cd that, blah blah blah, but she has nothing to prove. The fact remains that she is still doing movies and putting out music, inspite of the naysayers and their idiotic negativity. If she has only had success for her "name," then what happened to the other brothers and sisters? They have the "name" as well. She is famous and successful for her talent, period. So you can go ahead with your petty namecalling. It is merely a reflection of yourselves.

This is what Janet says to the haters


Magic Johnson gets it right 6 seconds into this clip


just for fun


Recognize...


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and last but not least, Rosie giving it up to the one and only JJ



VS


the originator...


check this clip @ 3:53. These are the moves Rosie Perez did on Soul Train
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^^In tears!!

midiscover said:

lol it had to be said...

Janet Jackson Firsts

First female artist to have the #1 selling album of the year (Rhythm Nation 1814, 1990)

First female artist to debut atop the Billboard 200 in the SoundScan era (Janet., 1993)

First black artist to be nominated for the Producer of the Year Grammy

First black female artist to be nominated for an Academy Award

First artist to have five Top 5 singles from one album (Control)

First artist to place six #1 R&B singles from one album (Control)

First artist (male or female) to place 7 Top 5 singles on the Hot 100 (technically Top 4)

First artist to have a #1 single in the 80s, 90s, and 00s.

First artist to have five or more Top 10 hits from three consecutive albums

First female artist to have five back-to-back #1 albums

First artist to have their first three films consecutively open at #1 at the box office

First female artist to sweep an awards show

First black artist to be awarded GLAAD's Vanguard Award

First artist to have a single simultaneously top the Hot 100, R&B, and dance charts.

First artist to have a single debut atop the R&B Airplay Charts

First artist to win Favorite Soul/R&B Female Artist, Favorite Pop/Rock Female Artist, and Favorite Dance Music Artist at the American Music Awards

First and only artist to be nominated in pop, rock, rap, R&B, and dance at the Grammys

First female artist to debut in the Top 10 on the Hot 100 (Runaway)

First female artist to debut in the Top 5 on the Hot 100 ("Scream" with Michallah)

Janet and Michael are the first (and only) siblings to both have a #1 single on the Hot 100

First artist to produce 4 #1 hits on the Dance chart

First artist to score a number-one hit simultaneously on the Billboard Hot 100 and Mainstream Rock singles charts with "Black Cat”

"All For You" became the first (and only) single in music history to be added to every possible American radio station in its first week.
Janet ruled over 4 formats, Top 40, crossover, rhythmic and urban radio, no one has ever ruled over let alone 3 formats.

"All For You" became the first single to be added to every possible station, in the US, Japan, Asia, France and South Africa
in its first week.

First artist to be awarded MTV Icon

First person to have their titty influence government policy


Now that she has slain the pure hell out of your favorite artists’ “first” accomplishments, let’s have a look at some of the records she holds:



Janet Jackson Records


Janet holds the record for the most consecutive Top 10 hits on the Hot 100 (18)

Janet holds the record for the most consecutive Top 10 hits on the R&B chart (25)

Janet holds the record for the most Top 10 hits on the R&B chart (30)

Janet holds the record for the most Billboard Awards (33)

Janet holds the record for the most Billboard Awards won in a single night (14)

Janet holds the record for the most #1 singles across the Billboard charts from a single album (7)

Janet holds the record for the most successful debut tour of any artist male or female, selling out on 4 continents

Janet is BMG's Biggest Selling Female Artist in the club.

Janet holds the record for most gold singles for a black female artist

Janet holds the record for the most Soul Train Award won (12)

Janet holds the record for the most American Music Awards nominations in a single year (9), earning an additional three nominations the following year (1987 & 1988 respectively)

Janet holds the record for the fastest sellout in the history of the Tokyo Dome, 48,000 seats with four shows sold out in a record seven minutes.

Other noted achievements:

Janet broke and set stadium attendance records at the Aloha Stadium in Hawaii with The Velvet Rope Tour and the All For You Tour

The live HBO broadcast of The Velvet Rope Tour garnered a total of 15 million viewers outperforming ABC, CBS, NBC and FOX in HBO homes, in addition to 13 Emmy nominations including one win.

In 1996, Janet signed with Virgin Records for a reported $80 million, making her the highest paid entertainer (at that time) surpassing brother Michael and bitter bitch Madonna.

Janet’s Velvet Rope Tour broke house records in Washington, D.C., Detroit, Grand Rapids, Michigan, and Salt Lake City.

Janet is one of the world’s best-selling artist having sold in the excess of 100 million albums

Janet ranks as the second most successful female artist of all time behind Madonna

In 2008, Janet ranked as the 7th most successful artist of Billboard’s Hot 100 All-Time Artists, 3rd female, 2nd African-American, and 1st African-American female.

In 2007, Janet was named by Forbes Magazine and E! Entertainment Television as one of the 20 Richest Women in Entertainment, coming in at #7.

Since her debut in 1982, Janet has spent a total of 660 weeks on Billboard's Hot 100 Singles chart and 540 weeks on Billboard's 200 Albums chart.

In 2004, Billboard ranked Janet as the ninth most successful recording artist in the history of Rock & Roll. She is also the second most successful female artist behind only Madonna.

To this day, Janet remains the only artist in Billboard history to hit no.1 on the Dance, Pop, Rock, Rap, R&B, Adult Contemporary and Top 40 charts.

In 2003, Janet's "Design of a Decade 1986/1996", "Rhythm Nation 1814", "Control", "janet." and "The Velvet Rope" were listed on the BMG Music Club's 100 Biggest Selling Albums in the U.S. coming in at no.9, no.35, no.58, no.63 and no.95, respectively. "Design of a Decade" and "Rhythm Nation 1814" are two of the club's 1 million sellers.

In 2003, Jackson's "The Velvet Rope" and "Rhythm Nation 1814" were named by Rolling Stone Magazine as two of The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time, coming in at no.256 and no.275, respectively.

In 1986, at the age of 20, Jackson became the youngest black female to hit no.1 on Billboard's 200 Albums Chart.

With six no.1 albums on the Billboard 200, Janet sits with a third place tie with Mariah Carey among female artists with the most no.1 albums on that chart.

Janet's "Scream", with brother Michael, is featured in the Guinness Book of Records as the Most Expensive Music Video Ever Made. The video cost more than $7 million dollars.

Janet's "Rhythm Nation" and "Love Will Never Do (Without You)" were named by TV Guide and MTV as two of the 100 Greatest Videos Ever Made coming in at no.44 and no.88, respectively.*

Janet's "Nasty" was named by Rolling Stone magazine as the no.79 Greatest Song in Rock & Roll history.

Janet's "Feedback" marks her 18th no.1 hit on Billboard's Hot Dance Club Play chart. The most no.1's of any black female and second behind Madonna.

Janet's "That's The Way Love Goes" is the biggest-selling single of all time by a female recording artist in South Africa. It also holds the record for most weeks spent at no.1 (9 weeks) and most weeks spent on the South African Sales chart (44 weeks).

With the release of only three albums in the 1990s, Janet was named by Billboard as the second biggest artist of the decade, surpassing such artists as Whitney Houston, Garth Brooks, En Vogue, Madonna, Michael Jackson, and Boyz II Men and only second to Mariah Carey.

Janet's "Rhythm Nation 1814" became the first and only album in Billboard history to score no.1 singles on the Hot 100 Singles Chart in the three different calendar years (1989-1991).

With fifteen no.1 hits on the Billboard Hot R&B Singles chart, Jackson is second only to Aretha Franklin among female artists with the most no.1 singles on that chart.

Janet's "Together Again" is her longest-charting single spending 46 weeks on the Billboard Hot 100.

Janet's biggest selling single worldwide is "Together Again", in 1998 it was the 4th biggest selling single of the year in Europe (2nd biggest for a female, only outsold by Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On"). Worldwide sales according to Virgin Records are over 5.5 million copies, one of the largest selling singles ever from a female artist. "Together Again" spent nearly 50 weeks in the Top 50 of the Billboard Hot 100, it also remains one of the longest charting hits in Billboard history. "Together Again" sold over 760,000 in the UK making it one of the biggest selling singles ever in the UK from a female artist, "Together Again" sold over 600,000 copies in Germany also earned a Platinum certification just 2 months after it was released. "Together Again", also went Platinum in the Netherlands, France, Belgian, South Africa, Italy, and even went Double Platinum in New Zealand and Australia.

midiscover said:

Madge put Janet out of the number in 01 to get the same honor of having #1 hits in the 80s, 90s, and 00s

Madge has TWICE the number of number 1s on the dance charts.
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I hope that Janet turns the pain of loss into her triumph. Janet still has the goods to deliver a hit. Unfortunately, because of Michael's death, she will be under unfair scrutiny as the Jackson family's last hope. She made the right step by dumping the troll and re teaming with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.

ehuffnsd said:

true, but I did say Janet was the first. The FIRST.

ehuffnsd said:

And what???

I said First artist to have a #1 single in the 80s, 90s, and 00s.

midiscover said:

Exactomundo!

Ughh, the baiting on this thread is one of the reasons i stopped coming to the org. Back to my break. Later folks.

The Janet vs Madonna war is as old and played as Michael Jackson vs Prince. If both artist release a cd on the same day, I can afford to purchase both.

totaldiva said:

I agree. Didn't want this to be a This artist VS That artist thread, but I was simply stating stats for haters, that's all.

SEANMAN said:

lol sorry i'm in a fighting mood on here. LOL

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

But Mariah couldn't rely on her "talent" to stay relevant she had to become a hip-hop hook girl and making sure her body was at the forefront nothing wrong with that but let's not make it out as it Mariah has been innovative throughout the years.

Mariah used to have a great voice .... but not the best dancer fine
Janet will dance you in the ground....not the strongest voice still fine still Janet is able to deliver as an overall entertainer.

none have one to do with the other not every artist can do it all !
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