thatruth said: Rick James was feminine/androgynous??? . . . [Edited 8/4/09 0:58am] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Speaking of Rick James, I have never seen this picture before....
NOT SAFE FOR WORK WARNING http://groupieblog.files....-bitch.jpg Andy is a four letter word. | |
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DecaturStone said: IMO most of these gangsta type come off way sweeter than Prince or rick James ever could.
' I only got love with my *****s in the crew, no love for a b****' ' we go hard ' ' woman they good for nothing one thing' I can give wayyy more examples I have never understood the word "sweet" to describe someone gay or gay looking. People ain't seen such hell on earth until you a cross a gay person because they will scheme and get revenge or die trying (I know I do). That's far from sweet, hell that's rattlesnake venom. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Speaking of Rick James, I have never seen this picture before....
NOT SAFE FOR WORK WARNING http://groupieblog.files....-bitch.jpg I remember that picture. With a very special thank you to Tina: Is hammer already absolute, how much some people verändern...ICH hope is never so I will be! And if, then I hope that I would then have wen in my environment who joins me in the A.... | |
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vainandy said: Speaking of Rick James, I have never seen this picture before....
NOT SAFE FOR WORK WARNING http://groupieblog.files....-bitch.jpg DAYUM!!! Is this a photo outtake from the 'Throwin Down' album photo shoot? | |
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FrenchGuy said: totaldiva said: Pastor Mase had a car accident while cruising the tranny prostitute track in Atlanta. After he rear ended someone, his car had to be towed. out of embarrassment, he remained in the car, trying to hide as his car was being towed away. yeah, ok, but is there any proof he was aware the prostitue was a tranny? U know, not every tranny look like Ru Paul Mase was a regular on the tranny stroll. On tranny strolls, they're usually tranny prostitutes. Makes sense, right? I guess Eddie Murphy didn't know either. HMMMMM [Edited 8/4/09 4:06am] [Edited 8/4/09 4:07am] "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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Cotontige said: Rahsaan Patterson is quite feminine, well he might be gay, this guy Rahbi too but I don't think he's gay.
He already said he's gay. surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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Sandino said: DecaturStone said: IMO most of these gangsta type come off way sweeter than Prince or rick James ever could.
' I only got love with my *****s in the crew, no love for a b****' ' we go hard ' ' woman they good for nothing one thing' I can give wayyy more examples homies over hos homies hos DO THE HOMIE DO THE HOMIE DO THE HOMIE surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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sosgemini said: OK, that's it! All of you want androgynous? I'll show you androgynous. No one plays the androgynous card like The Army Of Lovers. Honest! | |
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I think Sisco was the last one I can think of? Hmmmm.. | |
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vainandy said: I have never understood the word "sweet" to describe someone gay or gay looking. People ain't seen such hell on earth until you a cross a gay person because they will scheme and get revenge or die trying (I know I do). That's far from sweet, hell that's rattlesnake venom. The Sweets -- Ballroom Blitz Notice the bass player taking the feminine role too seriously in the intro. [Edited 8/4/09 7:04am] | |
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TonyVanDam said: Sandino said: how did that whole effeminate trend of the 80's begin anyway? it seems to me like we went from the button downed gentleman of the sixties which due to the civil rights, sexual, and counter-cultural revolutions gave way, to the funky brothas of the 70s, and then out of no where we just leapfrogged to the androgynous men of the 80's. How did that happen?
It's all started with this white rock band from the early 1970's called The New York Dolls..... Do you mean the '80's trend started with the NY Dolls, because there were feminine looking male performers before then. Little Richard immediately comes to mind. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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dancerella said: In the 80's there were so many feminine/androgynous artists like Prince, MJ, Rick James, Andre Cymone, etc that did not give a damn about how they were percieved. I can't think of anyone like that today. I suppose there's the Dream and Ne Yo but they obviously care way too much about people thinking they might be gay and by the way I don't think neither of them are. I just want to see the old flashy, freaky stars out there again!
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DecaturStone said: IMO most of these gangsta type come off way sweeter than Prince or rick James ever could.
' I only got love with my *****s in the crew, no love for a b****' ' we go hard ' ' woman they good for nothing one thing' I can give wayyy more examples I say this all the time. I have a LoveSexy era poster of Prince in my office, and sometimes when students come in, they say "he's gay" or "Prince is so gay." I always laugh and tell them that they need to go beyond the surface. I say Prince is so NOT gay, and that the so-called "hard" dudes that they think are so straight are the ones they need to taking a deeper look at. I tell them that if they listen to Prince's lyrics, they would see that he clearly LOVES women. On the other hand, the dudes they listen to seem to have no love for women. They actually display a great deal of animus toward women. They have much more love for their boys than women. The documentary "Beyond Beats and Rhymes" has a really good section about this. perfection is a fallacy of the imagination... | |
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SoulAlive said: vainandy said: Speaking of Rick James, I have never seen this picture before....
NOT SAFE FOR WORK WARNING http://groupieblog.files....-bitch.jpg DAYUM!!! Is this a photo outtake from the 'Throwin Down' album photo shoot? That picture was definately taken during the "Throwin' Down" era. Surely Rick didn't think they would use it on the album. Then again, as high as he was all the time, maybe he did. Hell, Motown probably turned it down because the titties on that bitch were saggy as hell. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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bellanoche said: DecaturStone said: IMO most of these gangsta type come off way sweeter than Prince or rick James ever could.
' I only got love with my *****s in the crew, no love for a b****' ' we go hard ' ' woman they good for nothing one thing' I can give wayyy more examples I say this all the time. I have a LoveSexy era poster of Prince in my office, and sometimes when students come in, they say "he's gay" or "Prince is so gay." I always laugh and tell them that they need to go beyond the surface. I say Prince is so NOT gay, and that the so-called "hard" dudes that they think are so straight are the ones they need to taking a deeper look at. I tell them that if they listen to Prince's lyrics, they would see that he clearly LOVES women. On the other hand, the dudes they listen to seem to have no love for women. They actually display a great deal of animus toward women. They have much more love for their boys than women. The documentary "Beyond Beats and Rhymes" has a really good section about this. Agreed I could not have worded this better. As far as the Mase thing. If you live in Atlanta and know where that happened YOU KNOW what Mase was there for. PERIOD | |
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TonyVanDam said: sosgemini said: OK, that's it! All of you want androgynous? I'll show you androgynous. No one plays the androgynous card like The Army Of Lovers. Honest! wow that samwell dude is a trip! | |
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bellanoche said: TonyVanDam said: It's all started with this white rock band from the early 1970's called The New York Dolls..... Do you mean the '80's trend started with the NY Dolls, because there were feminine looking male performers before then. Little Richard immediately comes to mind. Exactly. But I remember in a previous thread that even Little Richard was given the idea of wearing make-up from another artist (who's name I don't remember off-hand). | |
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TonyVanDam said: bellanoche said: Do you mean the '80's trend started with the NY Dolls, because there were feminine looking male performers before then. Little Richard immediately comes to mind. Exactly. But I remember in a previous thread that even Little Richard was given the idea of wearing make-up from another artist (who's name I don't remember off-hand). Billy Wright? | |
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dancerella said: In the 80's there were so many feminine/androgynous artists like Prince, MJ,
As was seen in the 80s, a heterosexual male artist has to be quite cute naturally (with large eyes) in order for any androgyny to really work and not look like a silly gimmick. Ne-yo and The Dream are talented, but they could never be androgynous. Neither could Timberlake, Chris Brown, Unique Zayas, or any current male pop/r&b artist that I've seen. Their facial features would not be complemented or enhanced with eyeliner or mascara. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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WaterInYourBath said: dancerella said: In the 80's there were so many feminine/androgynous artists like Prince, MJ,
As was seen in the 80s, a heterosexual male artist has to be quite cute naturally (with large eyes) in order for any androgyny to really work and not look like a silly gimmick. Ne-yo and The Dream are talented, but they could never be androgynous. Neither could Timberlake, Chris Brown, Unique Zayas, or any current male pop/r&b artist that I've seen. Their facial features would not be complemented or enhanced with eyeliner or mascara. U R right, though I still think Rick james could make the list... but Ne Yo or Chris Brown androgynous??? YUCK! Everybody is somebody, but nobody wants to be themselves. | |
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TonyVanDam said: scriptgirl said: Prince, butch? Excuse me while I die laughing over here
That right I said it. [b]Prince wears almost no make-up these days. As a matter of fact, the very last time Prince ever looking feminine was during The Gold Experience-era.[/b] What? Did you see Prince on the last Jay Leno show????? | |
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Prince couldn't butch up with a full beard and mustache. Prince is a "Prettyman". "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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FrenchGuy said: WaterInYourBath said: As was seen in the 80s, a heterosexual male artist has to be quite cute naturally (with large eyes) in order for any androgyny to really work and not look like a silly gimmick. Ne-yo and The Dream are talented, but they could never be androgynous. Neither could Timberlake, Chris Brown, Unique Zayas, or any current male pop/r&b artist that I've seen. Their facial features would not be complemented or enhanced with eyeliner or mascara. U R right, though I still think Rick james could make the list... but Ne Yo or Chris Brown androgynous??? YUCK! And Rick James? Well: He dressed like a woman alright, but it didn't look good to me. He would go on my list of men who SHOULD NOT have been androgynous. The best I've seen Rick James was during his scene in the movie "Life," where he was wearing a 30s gangster-suit with a slick-back hairstyle, lol. [Edited 8/12/09 15:33pm] "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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This guy has always seemed fairly brave in that department, considering his genre
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NDRU said: This guy has always seemed fairly brave in that department, considering his genre
Good one. Snoop doesn't look feminine, he looks like he is selling chicks on the track. "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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you just gotta know where to look and you can still find 'em
with hip-hop where it is, you won't see any of the male performers like you did in the 70s-80s mainstream. [Edited 8/12/09 17:13pm] 12/05/2011
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TonyVanDam said: sosgemini said: OK, that's it! All of you want androgynous? I'll show you androgynous. No one plays the androgynous card like The Army Of Lovers. Honest! I really enjoyed that first video! | |
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matthewgrant said: you just gotta know where to look and you can still find 'em
with hip-hop where it is, you won't see any of the male performers like you did in the 70s-80s mainstream. [Edited 8/12/09 17:13pm] Ms. Kevin form the legendary House of Aviance. YEEEES. Unfortunately, a VERY out of the closet Black gay male will never become a mainstream artist with songs like "Cunty" Good try. "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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matthewgrant said:
with hip-hop where it is, you won't see any of the male performers like you did in the 70s-80s mainstream. That's why shit hop needs to die. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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