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jiorjios said: bboy87 said: There's alot of MC's he could battle with... but he chose MARIAH CAREY and NICK CANNON?! FAIL Well I don't blame him. Mariah seems pretty annoying in the TV nevermind knowing her intimately that's not the issue the issue is that he's a rapper. He's supposed to battle rappers you don't battle Mariah fuckin' Carey I thought everybody was familiar with the rules of Hip Hop you battle muthafuckas on your level "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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where u been? rap became pop a long time ago
have not heard the new Doom release and let's not count out the Beastie Boys or De La Soul - you never know what they are up to next Q-tip is another great one, Nas, etc. rap/hip-hop far from over .....sorry haters | |
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vainandy said: Exactly. A person doesn't have to rap on the song for it to be shit hop. Shit hop is a sound and whether the person raps or sings, the so called "music" behind them is shit hop. Get some drums and bass in that shit and speed the damn tempo up. And leave out all that ignorant shit hop slang from the songs too. It's been damn near 20 years, let that dull shit die already. . . . [Edited 8/4/09 2:30am] Still at it, huh, Vain?....lol...And actually it's been 35 years...But who's counting? [Edited 8/4/09 10:09am] | |
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murph said: vainandy said: Exactly. A person doesn't have to rap on the song for it to be shit hop. Shit hop is a sound and whether the person raps or sings, the so called "music" behind them is shit hop. Get some drums and bass in that shit and speed the damn tempo up. And leave out all that ignorant shit hop slang from the songs too. It's been damn near 20 years, let that dull shit die already. . . . [Edited 8/4/09 2:30am] Still at it, huh, Vain?....lol...And actually it's been 35 years...But who's counting? [Edited 8/4/09 10:09am] Nope. Only about 20 years. Early rap was funky. It didn't turn into shit hop until early 90s after that "Chronic" album made it big. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Nope. Only about 20 years. Early rap was funky. It didn't turn into shit hop until early 90s after that "Chronic" album made it big. I could of sworn you were the same cat shitting on late '80s hip hop...Hey, it may be some hope for the Vain Man after all....lol | |
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murph said: vainandy said: Nope. Only about 20 years. Early rap was funky. It didn't turn into shit hop until early 90s after that "Chronic" album made it big. I could of sworn you were the same cat shitting on late '80s hip hop...Hey, it may be some hope for the Vain Man after all....lol No, I was shitting on a lot of late 80s R&B since so many of the artists started copying Shitney Houston with the adult contemporary crossover stuff. There was a lot of great rap in the late 80s....LA Dream Team, Pretty Tony with Freestyle, Egyptian Lover, 2 Live Crew, etc. Shit hop (the slow stripped down midtempo "talking over a beat" type stuff) was in it's infancy stages but it was underground where it was supposed to be. Very little of it made it to mainstream R&B. Only the rap acts that could throwdown got airplay, which is how it should have been and how it should have stayed. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: No, I was shitting on a lot of late 80s R&B since so many of the artists started copying Shitney Houston with the adult contemporary crossover stuff. There was a lot of great rap in the late 80s....LA Dream Team, Pretty Tony with Freestyle, Egyptian Lover, 2 Live Crew, etc. Shit hop (the slow stripped down midtempo "talking over a beat" type stuff) was in it's infancy stages but it was underground where it was supposed to be. Very little of it made it to mainstream R&B. Only the rap acts that could throwdown got airplay, which is how it should have been and how it should have stayed. I forgot you liked the more electro-hip hop stuff...I don't know Vain...I don't know what you would consider the "slow stripped down midtempo talking over a beat type stuff" in terms of '80s hip hop....Are you talking about Run DMC, Rakim, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Big Daddy Kane, EPMD, Boogie Down Productions, MC Lyte, Jungle Brothers, LL Cool J, NWA, and the Geto Boys? (I didn't mention Public Enemy because their Bomb Squad produced beats were usually the fastest around...so they wouldn't fit your shit-hop definition...) Because those above acts represent some of the best hip hop of the '80s.... [Edited 8/4/09 10:56am] | |
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TheKing662 said: I was a big rap fan until i start listen to Prince. Well really when all these dance songs came out last year. To me rap is dead,There has not been a #1 rap song on the chart this year,except for "Crack A Bootle", and i think it went #1 because that was Eminem's return single.Pop is really tearing the charts up,Beyonce,Lady GaGa,Flo Rida,and Black Eye Peas. The last real rap song to hit #1 was Chamillionaire "Ridin" rap is pure dead.
[Edited 8/1/09 23:33pm] how do you crack a bootle? What is a bootle? Rap died when Tupac died. | |
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murph said: vainandy said: No, I was shitting on a lot of late 80s R&B since so many of the artists started copying Shitney Houston with the adult contemporary crossover stuff. There was a lot of great rap in the late 80s....LA Dream Team, Pretty Tony with Freestyle, Egyptian Lover, 2 Live Crew, etc. Shit hop (the slow stripped down midtempo "talking over a beat" type stuff) was in it's infancy stages but it was underground where it was supposed to be. Very little of it made it to mainstream R&B. Only the rap acts that could throwdown got airplay, which is how it should have been and how it should have stayed. I forgot you liked the more electro-hip hop stuff...I don't know Vain...I don't know what you would consider the "slow stripped down midtempo talking over a beat type stuff" in terms of '80s hip hop....Are you talking about Run DMC, Rakim, De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Big Daddy Kane, EPMD, Boogie Down Productions, MC Lyte, Jungle Brothers, LL Cool J, NWA, and the Geto Boys? (I didn't mention Public Enemy because their Bomb Squad produced beats were usually the fastest around...so they wouldn't fit your shit-hop definition...) Because those above acts represent some of the best hip hop of the '80s.... [Edited 8/4/09 10:56am] The only group I liked in that list was Run DMC. I haven't heard of a lot of them and the ones I have heard of bored the hell out of me. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: The only group I liked in that list was Run DMC. I haven't heard of a lot of them and the ones I have heard of bored the hell out of me. Hmmmm....that explains a lot.... | |
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murph said: vainandy said: The only group I liked in that list was Run DMC. I haven't heard of a lot of them and the ones I have heard of bored the hell out of me. Hmmmm....that explains a lot.... The majority of the rap that I like is from the early 80s..... Fatback (the song King Tim III) Sugarhill Gang The Sequence Kurtis Blow Sugar Daddy Blowfly Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five Whodini Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde Felix and Jarvis Run DMC Soul Sonic Force Twilight 22 Newcleus Wuff Ticket Divine Sounds Pretty Tony Freestyle Egyptian Lover Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: The majority of the rap that I like is from the early 80s..... Fatback (the song King Tim III) Sugarhill Gang The Sequence Kurtis Blow Sugar Daddy Blowfly Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five Whodini Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde Felix and Jarvis Run DMC Soul Sonic Force Twilight 22 Newcleus Wuff Ticket Divine Sounds Pretty Tony Freestyle Egyptian Lover Gotcha....You like mostly the pre-sample hip hop acts....But I have to tell you...You are missing out....The MC's I named are amongst the best hip hop acts of all time... | |
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murph said: vainandy said: The majority of the rap that I like is from the early 80s..... Fatback (the song King Tim III) Sugarhill Gang The Sequence Kurtis Blow Sugar Daddy Blowfly Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five Whodini Dr. Jeckyl and Mr. Hyde Felix and Jarvis Run DMC Soul Sonic Force Twilight 22 Newcleus Wuff Ticket Divine Sounds Pretty Tony Freestyle Egyptian Lover Gotcha....You like mostly the pre-sample hip hop acts....But I have to tell you...You are missing out....The MC's I named are amongst the best hip hop acts of all time... Verses do nothing for me. I listen to music for my ass, not my brain.  Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: Verses do nothing for me. I listen to music for my ass, not my brain. I'm a verse dude myself, with beats a close second...Rakim's lyrics in the '80s were on another level... | |
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bboy87 said: TonyVanDam said: Even today, Eminem has yet to top his biggest career hit Lose Yourself. And that was within the first half of the 2000's. Whatever has he done lately beside getting in a feud with Mariah & Nick Cannon?!? There's alot of MC's he could battle with... but he chose MARIAH CAREY and NICK CANNON?! FAIL  Even if Eminem wins OR loses this feud, it's pointless. OK, so Mariah likes a young sweet black boy for a husband more than a little white boy from Detroit. Em should get over it and get another girlfriend already. | |
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vainandy said: Exactly. A person doesn't have to rap on the song for it to be shit hop. Shit hop is a sound and whether the person raps or sings, the so called "music" behind them is shit hop. Get some drums and bass in that shit and speed the damn tempo up. And leave out all that ignorant shit hop slang from the songs too. It's been damn near 20 years, let that dull shit die already. . . . [Edited 8/4/09 2:30am] Dr.Dre needs a memo that states that slow isn't always better all the damn time. | |
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bboy87 said: jiorjios said: Well I don't blame him. Mariah seems pretty annoying in the TV nevermind knowing her intimately that's not the issue the issue is that he's a rapper. He's supposed to battle rappers you don't battle Mariah fuckin' Carey I thought everybody was familiar with the rules of Hip Hop you battle muthafuckas on your level Remember the time (no pun intended!) that Em made the huge mistake of mocking MJJ in the video for Just Lose It? Guess what? MJJ got his payback by buying out ALL of publishing rights to Em's songs from Universal directly. No one f*** with The King Of Pop without being punish for it! | |
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murph said: vainandy said: Verses do nothing for me. I listen to music for my ass, not my brain. I'm a verse dude myself, with beats a close second...Rakim's lyrics in the '80s were on another level... At least Eric B knew how to use a sample in his production. Rakim's rap lyrics were perfect.  | |
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TonyVanDam said: bboy87 said: that's not the issue the issue is that he's a rapper. He's supposed to battle rappers you don't battle Mariah fuckin' Carey I thought everybody was familiar with the rules of Hip Hop you battle muthafuckas on your level Remember the time (no pun intended!) that Em made the huge mistake of mocking MJJ in the video for Just Lose It? Guess what? MJJ got his payback by buying out ALL of publishing rights to Em's songs from Universal directly. No one f*** with The King Of Pop without being punish for it! Michael owned the rights to Em's biggest hit That's some shit right there "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: TonyVanDam said: Remember the time (no pun intended!) that Em made the huge mistake of mocking MJJ in the video for Just Lose It? Guess what? MJJ got his payback by buying out ALL of publishing rights to Em's songs from Universal directly. No one f*** with The King Of Pop without being punish for it! Michael owned the rights to Em's biggest hit That's some shit right there Just look up Sony/ATV music publishing catalog. Even I was surprise and amazed to see Eminem's songs in the same catalog as The Beatles, Sly & The Family Stone, & Lady Gaga. | |
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TonyVanDam said: bboy87 said: that's not the issue the issue is that he's a rapper. He's supposed to battle rappers you don't battle Mariah fuckin' Carey I thought everybody was familiar with the rules of Hip Hop you battle muthafuckas on your level Damn that's not fair. And MJJ should be in position to accept some criticism Remember the time (no pun intended!) that Em made the huge mistake of mocking MJJ in the video for Just Lose It? Guess what? MJJ got his payback by buying out ALL of publishing rights to Em's songs from Universal directly. No one f*** with The King Of Pop without being punish for it! | |
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vainandy said: Verses do nothing for me. I listen to music for my ass, not my brain. I swear I'm a beats dude first AND I could list popular uptempo rap jams up until 1991. | |
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