jamgirl said:

The Jacksons movie shows a scene with Katherine saying, we all knew you did that commercial for the family

I'm not making this up.

At the same time, yes Michael was also responsible for many of his own problems.

jamgirl said:

The Jacksons movie shows a scene with Katherine saying, we all knew you did that commercial for the family

I'm not making this up.

At the same time, yes Michael was also responsible for many of his own problems.

suga10 said:

That movie was so weird.

jamgirl said:

I heard a story that Michael and Joe got into it around 1974. I think Joe was trying to "teach him a lesson", Michael kept yelling and pushing him away saying "let me go!" Michael then got out of his grasp, Joe chased him and Michael stopped him dead in his tracks saying "I hate you, Joseph! I quit!" This was in Vegas. MJ's threat wasn't serious tho, he went back and did the show. I forgot where I saw the story (maybe at MJEOL) and I don't know if this is what I heard verbatim but some of it was said.

Timmy84 said:

Love/Hate.

Michael didn't vomit at the sight of Joesph.

Remember in Private Home Movies when he talked about getting his love of animals from his dad, and the scene with him buying Joe that boat and grinning ear to ear when he loved it.

Okay so to properly sum what I'm trying to say.

Michael did do a lot of bull-shit himself. The Neverland sleepovers, surrounding himself with glamorous no-good Hollywood people, etc. etc.

But his family had their share of the pie in contributing to some of his personal problems too.

So no, I'm not blaming all of Michael's problems on his family, but they are partly responsible.
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Jackson Tribute to Be Televised Globally

VIENNA (AP) -- Next month's tribute to Michael Jackson on the grounds of a 17th century palace in Vienna will feature a three-hour, star-studded show to be televised live to a global audience of 1 billion people, the event promoter said this week.

Georg Kindel of World Awards Media GmbH said negotiations are ongoing with networks over rights to broadcast what's being billed as Jackson's main global tribute, and the pop legend's brother Jermaine is assembling the lineup of about 10 "of the biggest artists of our time."

Jermaine thinks maybe 1 billion people will watch the television show," Kindel said in an interview with The Associated Press. "It will be a very special evening for the millions of fans around the globe."

Austrian media reported that Madonna, U2, Lionel Richie and Whitney Houston might be among the artists performing 15-20 Jackson hits on a crown-shaped outdoor stage in front of Schoenbrunn Palace. But Kindel said the lineup is still in the works.

"I don't even know myself" who will take the stage, he said.

The event will be held in the second half of September, he said. Organizers have pledged to announce the date and lineup soon. Tickets go on sale Aug. 20.

Kindel said the show - conceived amid a flurry of events honoring Jackson since his death June 25 in Los Angeles - also will feature family members and unidentified Hollywood stars reminiscing as images and video clips of Jackson are screened.

"It will be about Michael Jackson the man and the humanitarian," he said, adding that a "significant portion" of the proceeds will benefit several charities, including the Larry King Cardiac Foundation, which helps patients who can't afford heart surgery.

Kindel said the tribute originally was planned for London's Wembley Stadium on Aug. 29, which would have been Jackson's 51st birthday, but that Jermaine Jackson decided instead on Vienna. The singer had been rehearsing for a series of London concerts at the time of his death.

Kindel said the switch took him by surprise: "Everyone was expecting it would be staged maybe in London or New York or Los Angeles," he said.

Explaining Vienna as a venue, Jermaine Jackson told "Larry King Live" on Friday that his brother loved the city and "loved castles."

After Kindel organized a Jackson remembrance held last month outside a mothballed nuclear power plant west of Vienna, Jermaine Jackson spent a few hours touring Schoenbrunn, which his brother also had visited.

"He was really fascinated and said, 'This is a really royal and ideal place for such a tribute to Michael,'" Kindel told the AP.

The majestic yellow palace and its sprawling, sculpted gardens are nothing like Los Angeles' Staples Center, where a big Jackson memorial was held last month, Kindel said.

"You can't compare it with a real historic palace which was built hundreds of years ago," he said in his downtown Vienna office.

"This is not Disneyland," Kindel said. But he added: "There's a zoo, there are parks ... I think (Michael Jackson) would like the site. It's a little bit like Neverland, but much bigger."

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just because he bought his dad a bought doesnt mean he didnt beat him when he was five

suga10 said:

And in turn, Michael is responsible for some of thier problems too.

jamgirl said:

Hmm... maybe he did, but what was the problems tho? I never read much about what MJ did to his family unless you think he sabotaged his brothers' careers? Which I don't think you are...

dearmother said:

It's weird, he was throwing shoes at Joe at five, yelling at him at 16, arguing with him, and yet he did what he could to try to have some semblance of a relationship. Michael's relationship with his dad and his family was very complicated. Then again so are so many other families.

Timmy84 said:

I use to always watch that movie I can't watch it now

Timmy84 said:

i really think mj just wanted a dad...like, BADLY.

Timmy84 said:

I don't think he did at all.

But what I do think is..

We always hear of how all the brothers did that to Michael and did this to him.

It is a two way street.

We may never read about it, but Michael did fucked up shit to his family as well.

It's is FAMILY after all.

dearmother said:

It's weird, he was throwing shoes at Joe at five, yelling at him at 16, arguing with him, and yet he did what he could to try to have some semblance of a relationship. Michael's relationship with his dad and his family was very complicated. Then again so are so many other families.

jamgirl said:

But look at Janet, look how successful her career was. MJ couldn't screw over her career.

So I don't buy it that Michael tried to sabotage his siblings careers.

And why would he have to, when he was the biggest music star in the world during his peak and fame?
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Timmy84 said:

And the only reason we get to commented is because they can sing and dance very well.

yeah im startin to wonder if he was anorexic

jamgirl said:

Well they're the only family we put under the microscope, even when we were talking about the DeBarges, we all agree that their father was a screw-up, neither of them have tried to have solo careers outside of El. The Sylvers weren't that popular, we never hear of any beef with the Isley Brothers except for that blow up with Chris Jasper. The Jacksons are the only family besides the Kennedys to get mention on tabloids daily.

Timmy84 said:

True.

Very true.

I don't understand why they would even call each other names anyway. It's even weirder when we think name-calling is what caused MJ to get surgery and yet some members got surgery too.

babybugz said:

To me, the film didn't look so well-done, it probably would've been better to have it on the silver screen and at least some of the facts corrected. But it's like their 1976-1981 era is totally ignored (because it was a Motown production).

I always thought MJ went nuts with his face after the Pepsi fire fiasco.

Yeah he was doing plastic surgery before that.

But he just went overboard with it in late 1984 and the years which followed.

Its like he didn't know WTF he was doing to himself anymore.

Sure must have been that Demerol


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