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Reply #1980 posted 08/10/09 5:54pm

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Glad to hear Michael is finally buried ... I just hope it was overseen by at least
one family member.


Another thought I hope Debbie's visitation with the children are supervised,I just hope she doesn't ask the kids questions turn what ever the say in simple conversation around,then run to the courts to push for full custody.


The judges decision is final but Katherine is going to be in the court room alot more with all of Michael's "friends" and strangers claiming to be the children's parent.

i don't think he's buried yet...
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Reply #1981 posted 08/10/09 5:55pm

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Me too and all these suggestions that the reason the autopsy is not revealed yet because some fans are confident of murder charges is kinda redundant. lol Might as well say what killed him, they did leak sources and stuff. lol

lol I don't look at it as murder confused but hmmm lol but yeah it's just too much release some old tours of his on DVD and let him rest in peace


I don't either. lol Just saying. biggrin (the LAPD jumped the gun anyways, lol)

But yeah it wouldn't hurt to release old unseen shit from the late 1970s, early 1980s. That's all I want. Anything past 1984...mmkay. smile lol
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Reply #1982 posted 08/10/09 6:01pm

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lol I don't look at it as murder confused but hmmm lol but yeah it's just too much release some old tours of his on DVD and let him rest in peace


I don't either. lol Just saying. biggrin (the LAPD jumped the gun anyways, lol)

But yeah it wouldn't hurt to release old unseen shit from the late 1970s, early 1980s. That's all I want. Anything past 1984...mmkay. smile lol

exactly lol and call it a day lol
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Reply #1983 posted 08/10/09 6:07pm

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utopia7 said:

Glad to hear Michael is finally buried ... I just hope it was overseen by at least
one family member.


Another thought I hope Debbie's visitation with the children are supervised,I just hope she doesn't ask the kids questions turn what ever the say in simple conversation around,then run to the courts to push for full custody.


The judges decision is final but Katherine is going to be in the court room alot more with all of Michael's "friends" and strangers claiming to be the children's parent.

why would it be overseen by a family member? when my grandmother died, we all left after the graveside service and they burried sometime after everyone was gone.
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Reply #1984 posted 08/10/09 6:08pm

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Timmy84 said:



I don't either. lol Just saying. biggrin (the LAPD jumped the gun anyways, lol)

But yeah it wouldn't hurt to release old unseen shit from the late 1970s, early 1980s. That's all I want. Anything past 1984...mmkay. smile lol

exactly lol and call it a day lol


I think some people - even some fans who were born after me - sometimes forgot that 23-year-old "Triumph"-era MJ was a bad-ass. cool
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Reply #1985 posted 08/10/09 6:08pm

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utopia7 said:

Glad to hear Michael is finally buried ... I just hope it was overseen by at least
one family member.




He has not been buried.
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Reply #1986 posted 08/10/09 6:15pm

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Timmy84 said:

babybugz said:


exactly lol and call it a day lol


I think some people - even some fans who were born after me - sometimes forgot that 23-year-old "Triumph"-era MJ was a bad-ass. cool

I was born in 87 and I honestly did not hear alot of mj in my house my mom played him but I was raise on janet for some reason lol i didn't get into mj till 2001 so I became a fan during the time when nobody was into him but I always prefer triumph / off the wall era .
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Reply #1987 posted 08/10/09 6:17pm

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utopia7 said:

Glad to hear Michael is finally buried ... I just hope it was overseen by at least
one family member.


Another thought I hope Debbie's visitation with the children are supervised,I just hope she doesn't ask the kids questions turn what ever the say in simple conversation around,then run to the courts to push for full custody.


The judges decision is final but Katherine is going to be in the court room alot more with all of Michael's "friends" and strangers claiming to be the children's parent.

i don't think he's buried yet...


They reported today on my local news that he has been laid to rest at Forest Lawn.
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Reply #1988 posted 08/10/09 6:19pm

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i was born in '83, def remember bad

i'm not gonna lie, before his death i forgot he was attractive back in the day so i became interested again. if that doesn't make me a bonafide fan, then so be it but i'm really not interested too much after '84 either
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Reply #1989 posted 08/10/09 6:19pm

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utopia7 said:

Glad to hear Michael is finally buried ... I just hope it was overseen by at least
one family member.


Another thought I hope Debbie's visitation with the children are supervised,I just hope she doesn't ask the kids questions turn what ever the say in simple conversation around,then run to the courts to push for full custody.


The judges decision is final but Katherine is going to be in the court room alot more with all of Michael's "friends" and strangers claiming to be the children's parent.

why would it be overseen by a family member? when my grandmother died, we all left after the graveside service and they burried sometime after everyone was gone.



Well because of the gold casket and to ensure he is not disturbed ...
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Reply #1990 posted 08/10/09 6:21pm

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Reply #1991 posted 08/10/09 6:25pm

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utopia7 said:

ehuffnsd said:


why would it be overseen by a family member? when my grandmother died, we all left after the graveside service and they burried sometime after everyone was gone.



Well because of the gold casket and to ensure he is not disturbed ...


He has not been buried.
For six weeks, Jackson's body has been temporarily interred at Forest Lawn Memorial-Park and Mortuary in the Hollywood Hills.
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Reply #1992 posted 08/10/09 6:51pm

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mimi07 said:


i don't think he's buried yet...


They reported today on my local news that he has been laid to rest at Forest Lawn.

the la times and other credible sources have said he hasn't been buried yet. i've only seen tabloids saying he's bee buried.
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Reply #1993 posted 08/10/09 7:20pm

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Well I wish they would bury him already. I swear most people do not have to wait this long to be laid to rest. It's ridiculous. confused
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Reply #1994 posted 08/10/09 7:31pm

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orginally posted


M- She ordered some movies and we (inaudible) with it ...she tried to (inaudible) the whole (inaudible)..... (quietly speaking almost whisper) and I let (her or it? ) even thought I shouldn't (inaudible) but after that it was everyday. The whole summer she became (inaudible) (one?) with (static) ..I love her very much .. (inaudible) she is too spoiled..



they were watching movies or tired of watching . she tried to (do something to him) the whole (time) he was watching.
whispers ..I liked it but (can't hear this part) I let her (sounds like) (do it )(lol) even though I shouldn't give in but after that everyday. The whole summer she became (one with me ). (sounds like-- she is not satisfied).....she is spoiled.


first something about not having sex but being creative. This is not a sentence..I just got the part "sex...not yet..creative" I think she wants to stay a virgin but still wants him. Then something about head ..(Glenda asks "WHAT" )..then he says it adamantly "oral sex you know" then she says something to the effect" ..well you have to be fair?? do it also (somewhere else in the noise) he says " first time i want to so bad" then somewhere else after a minute of noise "should be memorable"
( it sounds like to me ..he wants her to remain a virgin but maybe do other things instead..hence third base question.) He sounds like he really likes maybe loves this girl.

He further says sporadically in between noise.."i'm scared" (3 minute pause)"disappointed" " I'm a perfectionist" (about 2 minutes pause) "hurts" (2 min pause) "innocent" "purity" "look into her eyes" ( 2 min pause)Glenda says "its fine" "just try" something about a "light bulb"?? and something about a "fish bowl"..i have no idea what he means about the light bulb and fish bowl!!

They giggle a lot and she laughs really loud so drowns out what he is saying..but I think he is saying he is thinking about it or had it..cause I don't think he is asking Glenda about her sex life..heheh
And then he goes on to say these random words "is third base consider sex" ( pause) "It pains me" ( 1 min pause)" she' gets stiff" " she cuddles after"( pause) " satisfied" ( min pause) "immature" " I really want to" ( pause)" it s like coffee??" ( pause)"don't buy until u try???lol" (again I don't know what the heck that means) lol
I think these parts are toooo random to post in the 6-1 conversation plus I can't be 100% on these since I don't know what context he is discussing it in.

Ok so the website says that the parts that were released are parts 1-1 to 4-5. But the audio I have is to 4-6. Anyways, they are now posting part 6 and have yet to translate part 5 (idk if they will they said that it's hard to understand). &

biggrin

I am not releasing these but I have heard that some people will on youtube.
They don't want to release the audio for legal reasons but I hope they come out anyway. cool
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Reply #1995 posted 08/10/09 8:30pm

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!! keep me posted, i'm a total pervert razz
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Reply #1996 posted 08/10/09 9:05pm

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Reply #1997 posted 08/10/09 9:22pm

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Reply #1998 posted 08/10/09 9:29pm

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i think this might be 1990. Stephanie Mills is the lady with him.
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Reply #1999 posted 08/10/09 10:45pm

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LOS ANGELES -- Michael Jackson's family has ordered yet another autopsy to be performed on the singer's drug-ravaged body in the hopes of coming up with evidence of "foul play" -- and a potential murder rap, sources told The Post yesterday.

Family matriarch Katherine Jackson is leading the charge, insistent that her son was intentionally slain -- and she wants somebody to pay for it, the sources said.

The LA County coroner has yet to rule formally on what killed Jackson on June 25.

But the family has been briefed by the coroner's investigators, who essentially agree with what the Jacksons' previous private autopsy discovered: that the King of Pop was a habitual user loaded with prescription drugs when he died. Without evidence of anything else, this would make murder charges highly unlikely, sources said.

"Katherine Jackson looked at the results of the second autopsy, and she wasn't happy with what it did not reveal to her," a family source said, adding that the heartbroken mom is willing to hire even a fourth or fifth pathologist until she gets her desired result.

But there still is the possibility of a manslaughter charge based on negligence.

Cops have already paid multiple visits to the home, offices and storage lockers of Jackson's doctor at the time, Conrad Murray.

Well-known pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht, who has no connection to Jackson's case, said he sympathized with the family, but insisted that no new autopsy will yield different results.

"This is nonsense," Wecht said. "There's no more bodily fluid, no urine, no blood, no bile. The organs and tissue are in formula. There's going to be nothing new that can be gleaned from the body."

The third autopsy will be conducted before this weekend, at another location outside the coroner's office, sources said.

Jackson, 50, suddenly collapsed at his rented home in LA, where he was rehearsing for a concert tour.

On Monday, his mother won permanent custody of his three kids. But it appears that Joe Jackson, her husband and Michael's father, won't have a hand in raising them, amid concerns of his past alleged abuse of Jacko.

Joe, who lives separately from Katherine, in Las Vegas, wrote in new court papers that he only occasionally visits his wife.

Meanwhile, a probate judge has scheduled a hearing Monday on a deal for a full-length movie filled with footage Jacko's last rehearsals. The judge wants to find out if Katherine Jackson has any objection before signing off on it.

Additional reporting by David K. Li in New York

http://www.nypost.com/sev...183037.htm

I did'nt even hear anything about them wanting a third autopsy. They need to just leave Michael alone. I realize that they are grieving,but enough is enough. sad
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Reply #2000 posted 08/10/09 10:47pm

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LOS ANGELES -- Michael Jackson's family has ordered yet another autopsy to be performed on the singer's drug-ravaged body in the hopes of coming up with evidence of "foul play" -- and a potential murder rap, sources told The Post yesterday.

Family matriarch Katherine Jackson is leading the charge, insistent that her son was intentionally slain -- and she wants somebody to pay for it, the sources said.

The LA County coroner has yet to rule formally on what killed Jackson on June 25.

But the family has been briefed by the coroner's investigators, who essentially agree with what the Jacksons' previous private autopsy discovered: that the King of Pop was a habitual user loaded with prescription drugs when he died. Without evidence of anything else, this would make murder charges highly unlikely, sources said.

"Katherine Jackson looked at the results of the second autopsy, and she wasn't happy with what it did not reveal to her," a family source said, adding that the heartbroken mom is willing to hire even a fourth or fifth pathologist until she gets her desired result.

But there still is the possibility of a manslaughter charge based on negligence.

Cops have already paid multiple visits to the home, offices and storage lockers of Jackson's doctor at the time, Conrad Murray.

Well-known pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht, who has no connection to Jackson's case, said he sympathized with the family, but insisted that no new autopsy will yield different results.

"This is nonsense," Wecht said. "There's no more bodily fluid, no urine, no blood, no bile. The organs and tissue are in formula. There's going to be nothing new that can be gleaned from the body."

The third autopsy will be conducted before this weekend, at another location outside the coroner's office, sources said.

Jackson, 50, suddenly collapsed at his rented home in LA, where he was rehearsing for a concert tour.

On Monday, his mother won permanent custody of his three kids. But it appears that Joe Jackson, her husband and Michael's father, won't have a hand in raising them, amid concerns of his past alleged abuse of Jacko.

Joe, who lives separately from Katherine, in Las Vegas, wrote in new court papers that he only occasionally visits his wife.

Meanwhile, a probate judge has scheduled a hearing Monday on a deal for a full-length movie filled with footage Jacko's last rehearsals. The judge wants to find out if Katherine Jackson has any objection before signing off on it.

Additional reporting by David K. Li in New York

http://www.nypost.com/sev...183037.htm

I did'nt even hear anything about them wanting a third autopsy. They need to just leave Michael alone. I realize that they are grieving,and enough is enough. sad


Three words: NEW YORK POST.
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Reply #2001 posted 08/10/09 11:05pm

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Timmy84 said:

EmeraldSkies said:

LOS ANGELES -- Michael Jackson's family has ordered yet another autopsy to be performed on the singer's drug-ravaged body in the hopes of coming up with evidence of "foul play" -- and a potential murder rap, sources told The Post yesterday.

Family matriarch Katherine Jackson is leading the charge, insistent that her son was intentionally slain -- and she wants somebody to pay for it, the sources said.

The LA County coroner has yet to rule formally on what killed Jackson on June 25.

But the family has been briefed by the coroner's investigators, who essentially agree with what the Jacksons' previous private autopsy discovered: that the King of Pop was a habitual user loaded with prescription drugs when he died. Without evidence of anything else, this would make murder charges highly unlikely, sources said.

"Katherine Jackson looked at the results of the second autopsy, and she wasn't happy with what it did not reveal to her," a family source said, adding that the heartbroken mom is willing to hire even a fourth or fifth pathologist until she gets her desired result.

But there still is the possibility of a manslaughter charge based on negligence.

Cops have already paid multiple visits to the home, offices and storage lockers of Jackson's doctor at the time, Conrad Murray.

Well-known pathologist Dr. Cyril Wecht, who has no connection to Jackson's case, said he sympathized with the family, but insisted that no new autopsy will yield different results.

"This is nonsense," Wecht said. "There's no more bodily fluid, no urine, no blood, no bile. The organs and tissue are in formula. There's going to be nothing new that can be gleaned from the body."

The third autopsy will be conducted before this weekend, at another location outside the coroner's office, sources said.

Jackson, 50, suddenly collapsed at his rented home in LA, where he was rehearsing for a concert tour.

On Monday, his mother won permanent custody of his three kids. But it appears that Joe Jackson, her husband and Michael's father, won't have a hand in raising them, amid concerns of his past alleged abuse of Jacko.

Joe, who lives separately from Katherine, in Las Vegas, wrote in new court papers that he only occasionally visits his wife.

Meanwhile, a probate judge has scheduled a hearing Monday on a deal for a full-length movie filled with footage Jacko's last rehearsals. The judge wants to find out if Katherine Jackson has any objection before signing off on it.

Additional reporting by David K. Li in New York

http://www.nypost.com/sev...183037.htm

I did'nt even hear anything about them wanting a third autopsy. They need to just leave Michael alone. I realize that they are grieving,and enough is enough. sad


Three words: NEW YORK POST.


Is this supposed to mean something to me? lol Are they a tabloid?
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Reply #2002 posted 08/10/09 11:15pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

Timmy84 said:



Three words: NEW YORK POST.


Is this supposed to mean something to me? lol Are they a tabloid?
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Yeah. The same tabloid that said most of the Jacksons are broke and got 9-to-5 jobs, NONE of them do. lol
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Reply #2003 posted 08/10/09 11:33pm

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EmeraldSkies said:



Is this supposed to mean something to me? lol Are they a tabloid?
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Yeah. The same tabloid that said most of the Jacksons are broke and got 9-to-5 jobs, NONE of them do. lol


Hmm..I need to make a list of all the tabloids. The only ones that I am really sure of are the one that I see in the store everyday like Star or The Enquirer.
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Reply #2004 posted 08/10/09 11:34pm

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Timmy84 said:

EmeraldSkies said:



Is this supposed to mean something to me? lol Are they a tabloid?
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Yeah. The same tabloid that said most of the Jacksons are broke and got 9-to-5 jobs, NONE of them do. lol

someone i knew died of a drug overdose, caused partly by spending some time in a hot tub causing his heart rate to increase.

his mother still to this day 5 years doesn't accpet her son died of a drug overdose because her little boy would never do drugs.
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Reply #2005 posted 08/11/09 12:10am

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #2006 posted 08/11/09 12:19am

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ehuffnsd said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah. The same tabloid that said most of the Jacksons are broke and got 9-to-5 jobs, NONE of them do. lol

someone i knew died of a drug overdose, caused partly by spending some time in a hot tub causing his heart rate to increase.

his mother still to this day 5 years doesn't accpet her son died of a drug overdose because her little boy would never do drugs.


That's interesting but I know a lot of parents have problems believing their children will get into drugs.
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Reply #2007 posted 08/11/09 12:29am

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Timmy84 said:

ehuffnsd said:


someone i knew died of a drug overdose, caused partly by spending some time in a hot tub causing his heart rate to increase.

his mother still to this day 5 years doesn't accpet her son died of a drug overdose because her little boy would never do drugs.


That's interesting but I know a lot of parents have problems believing their children will get into drugs.

which means it's not hard for me to believe that Katie doesn't believe her beloved Michael wasn't a drug addict but someone must have killed him on purpose.
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Reply #2008 posted 08/11/09 12:34am

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disbelief disbelief disbelief

http://www.tmz.com/videos...4828ba1e06


Woman -- MJ Took My Baby, Gave to Tom Cruise

Posted Aug 10th 2009 1:50PM by TMZ Staff

In one of the wildest court pressers ever, Claire Elisabeth Fields Cruise, the woman who claims to be the biological mother of MJ's kids, just said Michael Jackson is the biological father of one of Tom Cruise's children!

Claire Elisabeth Fields Cruise: CLick to watch
Among other completely sane accusations, Claire alleges Connor Cruise is her son with Jackson -- but they gave him to Tom and then-wife Nicole Kidman because MJ "did not want his own child because of the color of his skin."

Claire also claims she conceived Jackson's three children with three different men -- none of them Michael -- and the embryos were "safely removed" from her body and given to surrogates to carry to term.

In related news, unicorns are real.





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Unbelievable. Why does the press even bother talking to her?


L.A. County coroner withholding results of Jackson death probe
12:53 PM | August 10, 2009

The Los Angeles County coroner's office said it has completed its investigation into the death of pop star Michael Jackson but was withholding the results -- and comment -- about the cause and manner of death pending the outcome of the police investigation.

"The investigation was thorough and comprehensive," coroner's officials said today in a news release.

But to maintain the integrity of the LAPD investigation, coroner's officials said they would honor an LAPD request to continue the existing “security hold” on all coroner documents related to the Jackson investigation.

-- Andrew Blankstein

What the hell do they mean? They are loosing their integrity by not releasing it.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #2009 posted 08/11/09 12:40am

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suga10 said:

disbelief disbelief disbelief

http://www.tmz.com/videos...4828ba1e06



Unbelievable. Why does the press even bother talking to her?


L.A. County coroner withholding results of Jackson death probe
12:53 PM | August 10, 2009

The Los Angeles County coroner's office said it has completed its investigation into the death of pop star Michael Jackson but was withholding the results -- and comment -- about the cause and manner of death pending the outcome of the police investigation.

"The investigation was thorough and comprehensive," coroner's officials said today in a news release.

But to maintain the integrity of the LAPD investigation, coroner's officials said they would honor an LAPD request to continue the existing “security hold” on all coroner documents related to the Jackson investigation.

-- Andrew Blankstein

What the hell do they mean? They are loosing their integrity by not releasing it.

only to the fans. if they are trying to build up a case they don't want the people who they are going after to know what all the information they know is.
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