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Reply #1680 posted 08/08/09 5:10pm

Timmy84

Swa said:

I believe the source for Mark Lester's comments is News Of The World.

Grain of salt anyone?

Swa


He actually did talk to them. Didn't you play the video?
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Reply #1681 posted 08/08/09 5:11pm

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crazy man
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Reply #1682 posted 08/08/09 5:13pm

Timmy84

Report: Jackson kids' godfather claims paternity

(AP) – 2 hours ago

LONDON — A British tabloid reported Saturday that the godfather of Michael Jackson's three children claims to be the father of the singer's daughter Paris.

The News of the World quotes Jackson's longtime friend Mark Lester as saying that he "gave Michael my sperm so that he could have kids — and I believe Paris is my daughter."

The newspaper also quotes Lester, is a 51-year-old former child star known for his lead role in the 1968 movie version of the state show "Oliver!" as saying he's willing to take a paternity test.

In a video interview with Lester broadcast on the News of the World Web site, Lester said he donated his sperm at a London clinic. He said Jackson was married to Debbie Rowe at the time.

"She's the birth mother of the children so I naturally assumed the sperm donation would obviously have gone into Debbie and Debbie would have borne the children," he said.

He said Paris resembled his own 15-year-old daughter Harriet.

Rowe said he had made the revelations because he has "concerns about the welfare and upbringing of the children."

"It's a contact issue," he said on the video. "I dearly want to remain in contact with those kids and I feel now this is the only way I can ensure that."

Jackson and Lester became friends 27 years ago when Jackson's manager told Lester the singer wanted to meet him. Lester lives in Cheltenham, about 100 miles (160 kilometers) west of London.

Calls to Lester's home were not immediately returned.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

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falloff @ them thinking he's "Debbie Rowe". lol You know someone from the office RUSHED to post this! lol
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Reply #1683 posted 08/08/09 5:13pm

SefraNSue

Right after the memorial, a relative and I had a conversation about the borderline hateful coverage and treatment that MJ had been getting in some outlets, and she, said very matter-of-factly, "People can be evil when they want to, but especially [certain] people."

And since then, [certain] people have continued to show their ass, even after the rest of the word population has attempted to let Michael RIP. [Certain] people think they have a stake in these kids, even though their rightful family now has full custody and is giving them the love and care they need. and I'm sure [certain] folks are pissed that the Jackson refuse to parade the kids in the media and help them earn big $$$.

I wonder how many other [certain] men will come forward with this BS in an attempt to tear those children (and their money) away from the Jacksons. neutral

I hope it is finally becoming clear to some of you what is really going on here.
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Michael never stopped!
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Reply #1684 posted 08/08/09 5:15pm

Timmy84

SefraNSue said:

Right after the memorial, a relative and I had a conversation about the borderline hateful coverage and treatment that MJ had been getting in some outlets, and she, said very matter-of-factly, "People can be evil when they want to, but especially [certain] people."

And since then, [certain] people have continued to show their ass, even after the rest of the word population has attempted to let Michael RIP. [Certain] people think they have a stake in these kids, even though their rightful family now has full custody and is giving them the love and care they need. and I'm sure [certain] folks are pissed that the Jackson refuse to parade the kids in the media and help them earn big $$$.

I wonder how many other [certain] men will come forward with this BS in an attempt to tear those children (and their money) away from the Jacksons. neutral

I hope it is finally becoming clear to some of you what is really going on here.
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I'm saying. There's a bunch of snakes out there. They're definitely at home with the rest of their REAL FAMILY.
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Reply #1685 posted 08/08/09 5:19pm

Serena

Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:




I’m sick of all of this, its disgusting , what a circus, mockery, and A hot mess.disbelief

All those were friends disbelief , they all need to shut the fuck up


Michael Jackson didn't have a lot of friends. Mark Lester a friend? Really?



oops, nevermind edit, didn't see the article you posted.
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Reply #1686 posted 08/08/09 5:21pm

Timmy84

Serena said:

Timmy84 said:



Michael Jackson didn't have a lot of friends. Mark Lester a friend? Really?



The article says they were Godparents to each others children. Wonder if that part is true or not?


Macaulay Culkin is their godfather.
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Reply #1687 posted 08/08/09 5:24pm

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Timmy84 said:

Serena said:




The article says they were Godparents to each others children. Wonder if that part is true or not?


Macaulay Culkin is their godfather.
[Edited 8/8/09 17:21pm]

hmm
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Reply #1688 posted 08/08/09 5:24pm

Timmy84

Serena said:

Timmy84 said:



Michael Jackson didn't have a lot of friends. Mark Lester a friend? Really?



oops, nevermind edit, didn't see the article you posted.
[Edited 8/8/09 17:21pm]


That's alright. smile
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Reply #1689 posted 08/08/09 5:25pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



Macaulay Culkin is their godfather.
[Edited 8/8/09 17:21pm]

hmm


Yeah I heard so many stories saying Mac was their godfather, lol
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Reply #1690 posted 08/08/09 5:29pm

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dont these people know where they spit their sperm, jesus
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Reply #1691 posted 08/08/09 5:30pm

seeingvoices12

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:


hmm


Yeah I heard so many stories saying Mac was their godfather, lol


Yeah he is....
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
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Reply #1692 posted 08/08/09 5:30pm

Serena

Timmy84 said:

Serena said:




The article says they were Godparents to each others children. Wonder if that part is true or not?


Macaulay Culkin is their godfather.
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You're too quick, beat my edit! lol

So this guy really isn't their Godfather??? Maybe this is just a totally bogus article, I can't imagine someone claiming that if not true.
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Reply #1693 posted 08/08/09 5:31pm

Timmy84

seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah I heard so many stories saying Mac was their godfather, lol


Yeah he is....


Thought so, even Mac confirmed it when he was interviewed for CNN around '04 when he was promoting that "Saved" film. Mark is LYING.
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Reply #1694 posted 08/08/09 5:32pm

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dearmother said:

dont these people know where they spit their sperm, jesus

eek lol
MICHAEL JACKSON
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مايكل جاكسون للأبد
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Reply #1695 posted 08/08/09 5:32pm

Timmy84

Serena said:

Timmy84 said:



Macaulay Culkin is their godfather.
[Edited 8/8/09 17:21pm]



You're too quick, beat my edit! lol

So this guy really isn't their Godfather??? Maybe this is just a totally bogus article, I can't imagine someone claiming that if not true.


The article ain't bogus, it's the story of Mark being their godfather that's bogus.
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Reply #1696 posted 08/08/09 5:33pm

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Serena said:

Timmy84 said:



Macaulay Culkin is their godfather.
[Edited 8/8/09 17:21pm]



You're too quick, beat my edit! lol

So this guy really isn't their Godfather??? Maybe this is just a totally bogus article, I can't imagine someone claiming that if not true.

lol This is Michael Jackson and his kids....it's possible lol
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Reply #1697 posted 08/08/09 5:36pm

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Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:



Yeah he is....


Thought so, even Mac confirmed it when he was interviewed for CNN around '04 when he was promoting that "Saved" film. Mark is LYING.

Interview with larry king I think....
MICHAEL JACKSON
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مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #1698 posted 08/08/09 5:37pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

Timmy84 said:



Thought so, even Mac confirmed it when he was interviewed for CNN around '04 when he was promoting that "Saved" film. Mark is LYING.

Interview with larry king I think....

It was confirmed when Prince was born
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Reply #1699 posted 08/08/09 5:58pm

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Great now its all about Blanket's mom

http://www.associatedcont...html?cat=2

A source close to the Jackson family has revealed to our investigators that Blanket Jackson's biological mother is in fact 32 year old Brit, Dr Susan Essien Etok.

The London based beauty, had a brief "secret" romance with Jackson in 2001, before agreeing to becoming his surrogate mother.

"They loved each other but their relationship was never going to work out. She wanted to focus on her academic career and shunned media attention. Michael wanted more children and Susan finally agreed to
Blanket Jackson's Mother is a UK Doctor
Date: August 4, 2009
Los Angeles, CA
United States of America
carry his child, " the family friend explains.

Contrary to previous reports, Susan was impregnated with sperm believed to be supplied by Jackson's Dermatologist, Dr Arnold Klein.

"Michael is not Blanket's biological father, he used a known sperm donor of anglo-saxon descent," confirms the family source.

A former Neverland employee, who wishes to remain anonymous said, "During the pregnancy, Susan was based in England and flew back to San Diego to give birth. After the birth, Susan remained friends with Jackson but Blanket and the other two children do not know her true identity."

It is believed that the 32 year old Medical Scientist was paid an undisclosed fortune by Jackson and signed an agreement to keep her identity under wraps.

It appears that the identity of Blanket's mother is the best-kept Jackson secret. How this will affect child custody issues remains to be seen. Dr Etok has declined to comment.

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Reply #1700 posted 08/08/09 6:05pm

cdcgold

i knew something was off with that lester guy. when he claimed blanket asked "was daddy on holiday" blanket is american and we don't say holiday we say vacation
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Reply #1701 posted 08/08/09 6:06pm

suga10

The lady who might be Blanket's mom (Don't take this seriously)

I found this picture on another website.

Dr. Susan Essien Etok




Remember how Mike said blanket's mom was black to Bashir??
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Reply #1702 posted 08/08/09 6:19pm

StillDirrty

Eh, they should just do a DNA test to get it over with. This is hurtful to the kids to just leave it to gossip. Will Klein still continue to try and get custody? I wonder.
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Reply #1703 posted 08/08/09 6:21pm

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whop whop i haven't seen these biggrin
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #1704 posted 08/08/09 6:21pm

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StillDirrty said:

Eh, they should just do a DNA test to get it over with. This is hurtful to the kids to just leave it to gossip. Will Klein still continue to try and get custody? I wonder.

They're his kids so it shouldn't matter

These people are just attention whores
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Reply #1705 posted 08/08/09 6:32pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

StillDirrty said:

Eh, they should just do a DNA test to get it over with. This is hurtful to the kids to just leave it to gossip. Will Klein still continue to try and get custody? I wonder.

They're his kids so it shouldn't matter

These people are just attention whores


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Reply #1706 posted 08/08/09 6:33pm

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WTF!
In an astonishing interview, Jackson's long term pal confessed to the News of the World that he secretly donated sperm to help the singer have children.
Until two weeks ago the child star of Oscar- winning classic Oliver! had not told ANYONE his story - not even his wife. Even now he has only shared it with his closest family members.
But today Mark, 51, is speaking out, convinced by the uncanny and growing likeness of 11-year-old Paris to his 15-year-old daughter Harriet (pictured above). He is certain he fathered them BOTH. And he has pledged to take a paternity test to PROVE it.
You can see Mark speaking on video below on this page.
"It's been a secret for so long," said Mark. "In 1996 Michael asked me if I would give him my sperm and I said yes. It was a gift to him, no money was paid, it was something I was honoured to do. He wanted children so badly."
And Mark, now an osteopath and acupuncture specialist, is only speaking out now because after Jackson's death he fears he will be manouevred out of the lives of his Godchildren - Paris, 12-year-old Prince and Blanket, seven.
Battle

"With Michael's mother Katherine now their legal guardian it's like the kids are being isolated," he said. "Up until Michael's memorial I was in touch with them on a weekly basis.
"I'm the Godparent to them and Michael was Godparent to all my four kids. Our two families spent a lot of time together, and had a lot fun together. Now I'm not able to have any communication with the children. My repeated phone calls aren't returned and emails go unanswered.

"This isn't what Michael would have wanted. I feel I have to come forward, as my only way of saying, 'Please don't shut me out!'"
Mark said he has spoken to lawyers to establish his rights to contact the children. He then revealed in detail how Jackson:

* HATCHED the sperm donor plan because he was scared to have normal SEX.
* JOKED about making donor babies using a TURKEY BASTER.
* BOOKED Mark into a special London clinic for the procedure, and
* SHARED countless holidays and intimate moments with the Lester family.

The plan for Mark to donate sperm to Jackson - whose hits include The Girl Is Mine-came in a series of incredibly candid phone calls. The pair had been the closest of friends after immediately bonding when Jackson first invited Mark to his room in London's Montcalm Hotel for a meeting in 1981.
Both had been thrust into the public spotlight at an early age - Mark in the title role of 1968 smash hit Oliver! and Jackson from his days as fresh-faced star of the Jackson Five.
But by January 1996 - with both men then aged 37 - Michael confessed his desperation to be a dad. At that stage Mark already had three young daughters of his own, Lucy, Harriet, and Olivia.
But Jackson was worried he would never father his own kids because his crippling shyness, and fear of the scary groupies who came on to him, meant he would not have sex with anyone.
"Michael found it very difficult to have relationships with women," said Mark. "He found the sexual act something he couldn't do. When he was about 16 or 17 he had a very famous female child star who basically jumped on him, naked in his hotel room, and tried to seduce him.
"He became very scared, and found it so disturbing he couldn't perform. Michael wasn't gay. But I'd say he was asexual.
"He was very conscious of his own body. He had vitiligo (a skin lightening condition). Believe me, it wasn't just his face that was white, he had it all over.
"Then in one of our regular phone conversations he said he realised having kids was a natural thing but that he just couldn't do it.
"I mentioned the fact there are alternative ways of going about it. We even joked that you can use a turkey baster, referring to artificial insemination. "I think he'd already tried using his own sperm but it hadn't worked for him, so I made an off-the-cuff comment saying: 'Try mine!'
"He'd already asked me how many times I'd had to try in producing my three girls. And I'd said that I didn't need to worry, because it seemed that I couldn't STOP having kids.
"So after I said 'Try mine' there was this silence on the phone for a moment. Then Michael said, 'Did you mean that?'
"Around a month or so later we had another chat about it and he said 'You know you were talking about the sperm donation, would you do it?' I ummed a bit but then said 'Yeah.' I half expected it not to happen.
"Michael was prone to say things that might not then happen. For instance, Richard Branson was launching plans for his new shuttle into space, and Michael called me saying he wanted me to come with him on a trip to the moon.




Aura

"He said he wanted to moonwalk on the moon, and wanted me there to be his buddy.
"I didn't expect it to happen, but I accepted. He had an incredible aura about him. Whatever he said, however short notice, you'd go along with it.
"Sperm donation was the same. It's something I wouldn't do for anyone else. But I wanted to do it for him. I didn't know if it would happen. But I was honoured to do it." Mark, who now lives in Cheltenham with second wife Lisa and the four children from his first marriage - Harriet, Lucy 18, Olivia, 14, and Felix, 10 - was told to expect a phone call.
That conversation was shortly after Jackson split from his first wife, Elvis Presley's daughter Lisa Marie, in January 1996.
And around a month later, in March, an employee at a confidential private clinic in London's Harley Street, rang Mark to set up an appointment.
Mark, who had given up acting, was working in London on a course at the British School of Acupuncture in Holborn, just a few stops away on the Underground.

Mark said: "The talk with Michael about had at first been light-hearted. It was all a bit of a giggle. There was nothing that serious until I got the call from the clinic.
"I arranged to to in one lunchtime and they said I mustn't have sex for three or four days before."
Over the next four weeks he was asked to give three samples of sperm.
Before his first donation there was a blood test. Then he was shown to a room and given a small plastic cup to keep his side of the arrangement.
"I went in a bit sheepishly and came out a like a teenage boy leaving a porn film," recalled Mark.
"I'm not sure if the clinic knew that it was anything to do with Michael Jackson. I don't think they knew where the sperm was going or who it was for. I just did it and walked away from it.
"I think they separate some of the fluid and freeze it. From then on it can be transported anywhere quite easily."
Jealousy

Incredibly Mark didn't tell his then-wife Jane what he'd done for his old pal.
He said: "She'd have knocked it on the head. She had an animosity to Michael, maybe because of our closeness. There was a jealousy thing going on so I didn't discuss it with ANYONE. I just did it, and put it out of my mind. I didn't even know if I was the only person Michael asked." In fact the donation was never mentioned again even between the two men, despite the closest of relationships that endured right up to Jackson's sudden death in Los Angeles six weeks ago.
Eight months after the donor procedures, in November 1996, Jackson announced he had married skin-clinic worker Debbie Rowe.
And three months after that the couple revealed the birth of their first child Prince.
Paris followed just over a year later, on April 3, 1998. And Rowe has admitted being artificially inseminated using anonymous sperm.
Mark told us: "Michael never mentioned who the artificial insemination would be with. I later assumed it would be his wife. We just never spoke about it again."
But as time went on Mark noticed a growing similarity between Paris and his own daughter Harriet, born around four years earlier in December 1993.
Their pictures clearly show both share the same facial bone structure that also made Mark a child star when he first hit the big screen as Dickens' cherubic street urchin.
Mark said: "Paris is very pale, with blue eyes. All my daughters, apart from my eldest, are fair with blue eyes. So many people have commented on how alike Harriet and Paris look. Our families often holidayed together and staff, especially nannies, watching the children play together would say how similar the two girls looked."
Jackson turned to Mark for support during the most difficult periods of his life, and the Lesters made countless trips, including stays at Neverland ranch, to be with him and his family.
Mark was with Jackson in a Miami hotel when he watched the Martin Bashir documentary which led to his 2005 trial for sex abuse.
And he joined the star in Bahrain after he was cleared of all charges.
He was also in Berlin's Adlon Hotel in 2002 when Jackson hit the headlines dangling Blanket from a fourth floor balcony.
And the pals had made plans for their families to spend this summer together at rented houses in England.
Relaxed

The trust between the two men was so great that during Jackson's visit to London in March, to launch his Docklands comeback concerts, Mark took the singer's children to London's West End shops and the circus.
That was the last time Mark saw Jackson. They travelled together in the car to the press conference at the O2 arena. And the whole Lester family spent the weekend with Jackson at the five-star Lanesborough Hotel.
Mark said: "Michael was really relaxed. He wasn't unfit and showed no sign of being unwell."
In his last few months Jackson was ringing Mark at home every Sunday. They last spoke five days before the singer's death.
"We were on the phone for about an hour," said Mark. "Michael wanted to speak to all the children, one by one. We were talking about the show. He wouldn't tell me what was in it. He wanted it to be a surprise."
The last time Mark spoke to Michael's children was at the memorial service. He was walking past the convoy of family cars when Paris spotted him and called him over.
Hugged

"The children were in the back of a car with Katherine (their grandmother)," said Mark. "I didn't want to intrude too much. But Paris wound down the window and we hugged.
"She said they had presents for us all back at the house, gifts they were planning to bring to England this summer. I was telling her please not to worry about it. I've been very worried about how the children would react to everything.
"But I spoke to them a day after Michael died and was amazed at how strong they were being. I was in bits on the phone and Paris said, 'Daddy is with the angels.'
"I do feel a definite bonding with Paris and I think there's a definite possibility that she's part of me.

"I want to have contact with her, Prince and Blanket regardless of whether any or all of them are mine. I think it's cruel that I've now been excluded from them."
Mark is also concerned about the kids being pushed into becoming Jehovah's Witnesses, the strict religion favoured by granny Katherine. His worry grew after spotting a photograph of Paris clutching a Witness book.
"Michael would have hated it," he said. "I respect their beliefs but in my opinion it's not going to be very healthy for the kids."

Speaking from his French holiday villa near Cannes he added: "I'd like regular contact with the children. It feels like they're being isolated. They need to be interacting with other kids, getting back a normal life, and being with friends.
"I've tried to get in touch, spoken to the Jackson household, left messages. But no one's called me back. And they know damn well that I've been a part of those kids' lives for years." Now Mark - whose videoed interview can be seen here - has spoken to lawyers about being able to see the children in future.
He added: "I'll push all the way for contact with her, Prince and Blanket.
"I feel it's important. I love those kids so much. We've had great times together. I don't know if I'm doing the right thing speaking out. But I'm not trying to make any claim on anything. Even if it's proven Paris is biologically mine I wouldn't see her as anything other than Michael's daughter. He raised her.
"Michael was a brilliant, brilliant dad. Those kids are Michael's children. He was their father. End of story. But I just want to make sure they're happy."

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TRY MINE!? WTF! They were not talking about sharing a candy bar. lol
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Reply #1707 posted 08/08/09 6:35pm

StillDirrty

I think it does matter because they will hear these rumors. They can't be shielded forever. & people are nasty anyway especially towards Michael. I can see it now people will tell them, "He's not your real father."
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Reply #1708 posted 08/08/09 6:53pm

dearmother

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can someone plz tell me why mj didnt use his own sperm



im serious plz someone enlighhten me
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Reply #1709 posted 08/08/09 6:55pm

Timmy84

dearmother said:

can someone plz tell me why mj didnt use his own sperm



im serious plz someone enlighhten me
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We don't know if he did or didn't. It can be believed either way but he was the only guy who was around long enough to be a father and he was there from day one.
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