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Reply #1500 posted 08/07/09 11:45am

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dearmother said:

she helped him get into rehab tho


Yeh right.

All a them..no good at all
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Reply #1501 posted 08/07/09 11:48am

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But I'm still angry that she got him in contact with these a**holes, and Klein was on her twitter account too.

As dear of a friend she was, she was also a bad influence on him, and she should feel every bit guilty.

MJ needed people around him who were in touch with the real world, and not all about the glitz and glamour.
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Terrible influence to say the least, and Michael idolized those ppl.

I cringe everytime I see her making MJ celebrate Xmas @ Neverland, just pushing him away from his family

And setting that whole Oprah bullshit interview.
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Reply #1502 posted 08/07/09 11:48am

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his collection of celeb friends is interesting to me

i just read a jt excerpt where he talks about how mj couldn't meet jackie kennedy at first b/c he had a panic attack. not sure if it's true, but he did seem a bit star struck.
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Reply #1503 posted 08/07/09 11:52am

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i doubt celebrating xmas one time really pushed him away from his family
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Reply #1504 posted 08/07/09 11:52am

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k so we have
MIKO BRANDO
anyone else neutral

Brad Rattner. I´ve seen a lot of footage and pictures of him and Mike. I think they were good friends, too.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1505 posted 08/07/09 11:54am

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jamgirl said:

suga10 said:

But I'm still angry that she got him in contact with these a**holes, and Klein was on her twitter account too.

As dear of a friend she was, she was also a bad influence on him, and she should feel every bit guilty.

MJ needed people around him who were in touch with the real world, and not all about the glitz and glamour.
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Terrible influence to say the least, and Michael idolized those ppl.

I cringe everytime I see her making MJ celebrate Xmas @ Neverland, just pushing him away from his family

And setting that whole Oprah bullshit interview.


That's what was so sad about this whole situation. His friends had nuts around them and he blindly trusted them.
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Reply #1506 posted 08/07/09 11:56am

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k so we have
MIKO BRANDO
anyone else neutral


Chris Tucker
Macaulay Culkin
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Reply #1507 posted 08/07/09 11:57am

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Timmy84 said:

jamgirl said:



Terrible influence to say the least, and Michael idolized those ppl.

I cringe everytime I see her making MJ celebrate Xmas @ Neverland, just pushing him away from his family

And setting that whole Oprah bullshit interview.


That's what was so sad about this whole situation. His friends had nuts around them and he blindly trusted them.


Michael was soo blind, so blind to all that SHIT.

He really thought he was 'one of them'
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Reply #1508 posted 08/07/09 11:58am

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Timmy84 said:

dearmother said:

k so we have
MIKO BRANDO
anyone else neutral


Chris Tucker
Macaulay Culkin


Chris, Mac, Brett, Kathy Hilton, even him and Lionel kept in touch.
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Reply #1509 posted 08/07/09 12:01pm

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Alright, as much as Evan Chandler is a scumbag, he said something about how Liz introduced Michael to painkillers like Demerol, so that's probably true.

http://www.ibtimes.com.au...illers.htm

Michael Jackson allegedly claimed that Elizabeth Taylor first introduced him to painkillers, boasting of the feel-good effects of Demerol, the painkiller that possibly contributed to his death.

Jackson asked Evan Chandler, a dentist and father of the 13-year-old boy he was first accused of molesting in 1993, if he could obtain the drug because Taylor had recommended it.

"Liz told Michael that she didn't have any pain, but that Demerol made you feel good,'
Dr Chandler told author Victor Gutierrez, in the book Michael Jackson Was My Lover.
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Reply #1510 posted 08/07/09 12:07pm

Timmy84

jamgirl said:

Timmy84 said:



Chris Tucker
Macaulay Culkin


Chris, Mac, Brett, Kathy Hilton, even him and Lionel kept in touch.


I wonder if he and Teddy Riley kept in touch... we know how his "friendship" with Quincy went...
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Reply #1511 posted 08/07/09 12:13pm

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yeah that interview whatever quincy gave after he died was jawdropping wtf
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Reply #1512 posted 08/07/09 12:18pm

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I have recently gotten an OK! magazine with Mark Lester´s interview, which was nice. Here´s what he said briefly just in points.

After Mike´s death he spoke to the kids and he said that it was actually Paris comforming him saying that "Daddy has gone to live with the angels."

Asked about Mike not being the biological father, he said it was rubbish.

Anorexia claims and addiction to precription drugs - he said Mike wasn´t anorexic the last time he saw him. That he was slim, always ate small meals, never saw him take as much as an aspirin. He´s suspicious about the truth regarding his death wondering "who´s protecting who and why?" Said that Michael hated needles, wouldn´t have osteopathy cause he couldn´t bear to hear the bones click.

He was excited about the tour.

Mike was extrememly loving, kind and generous.

The kids were very aware of who their dad is often watching his vidoes. Prince loved Thriller, Paris Smooth Criminal and Blanket loved them all. Blanket loved dancing with his dad, Mike taught him Moonwalk and Mark said he could easily be the next Michael Jackson. Mike always put Mark to shame as a father. He often dismissed the nannies and took care of the himself, changed nappies, fed them. He was hot on manners and the kids were taken to task if they forgot to say "please" or "thank you". If they squabbled, he´d intervene and if they were very naughty he´d ground them. Mike played PC games with them, but he was a technophone. He could use playstation, but didn´t know how to turn on a computer and managed just his mobile phone. Once he even called him to ask how to turn it off.
lol

Mike loved all the Christmas and anniversaries. He liked to make a big deal of them because as a Jehovah witness he didn´t celebrate them before. He over-compensated buying gifts to everyone.

Michael was devastated and heart-broken over the allegations.

The kids are very-well educated by private tutors. Blanket could read and write at the age of 4.

Mike´s favorite food was fish , chips and mushy peas, never ate the fancy food at hotels. Never saw him drink alcohol.

He told a story about Blanket needing a tooth filling. When Grace took him to practitioner, he advised that he needed USD 40 000 worth of work. Mark adviced Grace to take him to a dentist under a false name and he got a USD 200 filling.

Michael never forgot Christmas or anyone´s birthday.

Paris is interested in fashion.
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"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1513 posted 08/07/09 12:19pm

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Timmy84 said:

jamgirl said:



Chris, Mac, Brett, Kathy Hilton, even him and Lionel kept in touch.


I wonder if he and Teddy Riley kept in touch... we know how his "friendship" with Quincy went...


Seems so.

Cause Teddy's kids spend a lot of time @ the Jackson home in Encino.

Seems like they did.
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Reply #1514 posted 08/07/09 12:22pm

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Alright, as much as Evan Chandler is a scumbag, he said something about how Liz introduced Michael to painkillers like Demerol, so that's probably true.

http://www.ibtimes.com.au...illers.htm

Michael Jackson allegedly claimed that Elizabeth Taylor first introduced him to painkillers, boasting of the feel-good effects of Demerol, the painkiller that possibly contributed to his death.

Jackson asked Evan Chandler, a dentist and father of the 13-year-old boy he was first accused of molesting in 1993, if he could obtain the drug because Taylor had recommended it.

"Liz told Michael that she didn't have any pain, but that Demerol made you feel good,'
Dr Chandler told author Victor Gutierrez, in the book Michael Jackson Was My Lover.

You are using a weird source. Anyway, Liz was the one who got him into rehab.





Chris, Mac, Brett, Kathy Hilton, even him and Lionel kept in touch.

Kathy Hilton is Paris´ mother? They were really friends?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1515 posted 08/07/09 12:22pm

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dag said:

I have recently gotten an OK! magazine with Mark Lester´s interview, which was nice. Here´s what he said briefly just in points.

After Mike´s death he spoke to the kids and he said that it was actually Paris comforming him saying that "Daddy has gone to live with the angels."

Asked about Mike not being the biological father, he said it was rubbish.

Anorexia claims and addiction to precription drugs - he said Mike wasn´t anorexic the last time he saw him. That he was slim, always ate small meals, never saw him take as much as an aspirin. He´s suspicious about the truth regarding his death wondering "who´s protecting who and why?" Said that Michael hated needles, wouldn´t have osteopathy cause he couldn´t bear to hear the bones click.

He was excited about the tour.

Mike was extrememly loving, kind and generous.

The kids were very aware of who their dad is often watching his vidoes. Prince loved Thriller, Paris Smooth Criminal and Blanket loved them all. Blanket loved dancing with his dad, Mike taught him Moonwalk and Mark said he could easily be the next Michael Jackson. Mike always put Mark to shame as a father. He often dismissed the nannies and took care of the himself, changed nappies, fed them. He was hot on manners and the kids were taken to task if they forgot to say "please" or "thank you". If they squabbled, he´d intervene and if they were very naughty he´d ground them. Mike played PC games with them, but he was a technophone. He could use playstation, but didn´t know how to turn on a computer and managed just his mobile phone. Once he even called him to ask how to turn it off.
lol

Mike loved all the Christmas and anniversaries. He liked to make a big deal of them because as a Jehovah witness he didn´t celebrate them before. He over-compensated buying gifts to everyone.

Michael was devastated and heart-broken over the allegations.

The kids are very-well educated by private tutors. Blanket could read and write at the age of 4.

Mike´s favourtie food was fish , chips and mushy peas, never ate the fancy food at hotels. Never saw him drink alcohol.

He told a story about Blanket needing a tooth filling. When Grace took him to practitioner, he advised that he needed USD 40 000 worth of work. Mark adviced Grace to take him to a dentist under a false name and he got a USD 200 filling.

Michael never forgot Christmas or anyone´s birthday.

Paris is interested in fashion.


Thank ya biggrin
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Reply #1516 posted 08/07/09 12:25pm

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dag said:

suga10 said:

Alright, as much as Evan Chandler is a scumbag, he said something about how Liz introduced Michael to painkillers like Demerol, so that's probably true.

http://www.ibtimes.com.au...illers.htm

Michael Jackson allegedly claimed that Elizabeth Taylor first introduced him to painkillers, boasting of the feel-good effects of Demerol, the painkiller that possibly contributed to his death.

Jackson asked Evan Chandler, a dentist and father of the 13-year-old boy he was first accused of molesting in 1993, if he could obtain the drug because Taylor had recommended it.

"Liz told Michael that she didn't have any pain, but that Demerol made you feel good,'
Dr Chandler told author Victor Gutierrez, in the book Michael Jackson Was My Lover.

You are using a weird source. Anyway, Liz was the one who got him into rehab.





Chris, Mac, Brett, Kathy Hilton, even him and Lionel kept in touch.

Kathy Hilton is Paris´ mother? They were really friends?


After she got him in, she tried to get him out...

And yeh, they went to high school in Hollywood together, along with La Toya.

She's been to the family compound many times since his death.
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Reply #1517 posted 08/07/09 12:27pm

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dag said:


He told a story about Blanket needing a tooth filling. When Grace took him to practitioner, he advised that he needed USD 40 000 worth of work. Mark adviced Grace to take him to a dentist under a false name and he got a USD 200 filling.


wow, that sucks.

i wonder about the weight thing, if those tapes on youtube are real then he knew he was anorexic. even if they aren't, he was really really thin. i'm 5'8 115 lbs and rail thin, i can't imagine what his actual weight was. 5'10 and 120 lbs maybe?
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Reply #1518 posted 08/07/09 12:29pm

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dearmother said:

dag said:


He told a story about Blanket needing a tooth filling. When Grace took him to practitioner, he advised that he needed USD 40 000 worth of work. Mark adviced Grace to take him to a dentist under a false name and he got a USD 200 filling.


wow, that sucks.

i wonder about the weight thing, if those tapes on youtube are real then he knew he was anorexic. even if they aren't, he was really really thin. i'm 5'8 115 lbs and rail thin, i can't imagine what his actual weight was. 5'10 and 120 lbs maybe?


Michael was never ever ever ever fat
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Reply #1519 posted 08/07/09 12:30pm

suga10

Since this is TMZ (take it as you may lol), this is what they're saying.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0.../#comments

Only drugs in Jackson's system were Propofol and Xanax.
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Reply #1520 posted 08/07/09 12:33pm

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suga10 said:

Since this is TMZ (take it as you may lol), this is what they're saying.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0.../#comments

Only drugs in Jackson's system were Propofol and Xanax.
[Edited 8/7/09 12:30pm]


Aha ha.

No friggin cocktail.

I take Xanax daily...

But it was the propofol that killed him and xanax which makes u SLEEP.

IF this is all true.
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Reply #1521 posted 08/07/09 12:35pm

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jamgirl said:

suga10 said:

Since this is TMZ (take it as you may lol), this is what they're saying.

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0.../#comments

Only drugs in Jackson's system were Propofol and Xanax.
[Edited 8/7/09 12:30pm]


Aha ha.

No friggin cocktail.

I take Xanax daily...

But it was the propofol that killed him and xanax which makes u SLEEP.

IF this is all true.


Now assuming if this is all true, its time to roast that b*tch Murray.
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Reply #1522 posted 08/07/09 12:37pm

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xanax is nothin

off with doctor murrays head
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Reply #1523 posted 08/07/09 12:39pm

Timmy84

This is sure to get the LAPD's attention, lol. They held the coroner from releasing the info. spit

I'm still taking it with a grain of salt tho.
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Reply #1524 posted 08/07/09 12:39pm

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jamgirl said:



Aha ha.

No friggin cocktail.

I take Xanax daily...

But it was the propofol that killed him and xanax which makes u SLEEP.

IF this is all true.


Now assuming if this is all true, its time to roast that b*tch Murray.


lol
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Reply #1525 posted 08/07/09 12:40pm

Timmy84

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jamgirl said:



Aha ha.

No friggin cocktail.

I take Xanax daily...

But it was the propofol that killed him and xanax which makes u SLEEP.

IF this is all true.


Now assuming if this is all true, its time to roast that b*tch Murray.


falloff
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Reply #1526 posted 08/07/09 12:41pm

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Timmy84 said:

This is sure to get the LAPD's attention, lol. They held the coroner from releasing the info. spit

I'm still taking it with a grain of salt tho.


wink
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Reply #1527 posted 08/07/09 12:42pm

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Timmy84 said:

This is sure to get the LAPD's attention, lol. They held the coroner from releasing the info. spit

I'm still taking it with a grain of salt tho.


wink


I wonder how they can find Xanax in your blood. hmmm
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Reply #1528 posted 08/07/09 12:45pm

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dag said:


He told a story about Blanket needing a tooth filling. When Grace took him to practitioner, he advised that he needed USD 40 000 worth of work. Mark adviced Grace to take him to a dentist under a false name and he got a USD 200 filling.


wow, that sucks.

i wonder about the weight thing, if those tapes on youtube are real then he knew he was anorexic. even if they aren't, he was really really thin. i'm 5'8 115 lbs and rail thin, i can't imagine what his actual weight was. 5'10 and 120 lbs maybe?

I remember him saying in one of the radio interviews he gave in recent years that he always ate little and that his mother always struggled to get him to eat. He said "I don´t want you to think I´m starving. I appreciate the gift of food" Something in that sense, and that he was never a big eater. I think he was aware of his problem and was trying to eat. He looked OK during that Bashit period, but he lost way too much weight during the trial and then with the rehearsals again.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #1529 posted 08/07/09 12:46pm

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And I think the key word everyone needs to remember is "sources". wink
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