See that's one of the reasons why I don't like Oprah. She's a nosy bitch. It's none of her business! It was either her or Diane Sawyer that asked Michael if he was a virgin. That would not be me because if it was that interview would have been over REAL quick!

EmeraldSkies said:

bootleg

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

she said that? hahahaha

well, sadly, the fact is many people have been astonished that mj's death has had as large an effect as it has. priscilla, et al refuse to acknowlege that mj was and is as big as elvis and the beatles. we touched on this in thread one, i think. next year when mj displaces elvis as the most revenue generating dead celebrity, priscilla will be picking her face up off the floor.

kibbles said:

this is where the generation gaps come in i guess and the child molestation charges, he'll never get over. so frustrating!! imagine if mj had died in the late 80s or when his head caught on fire!!! everyone wouldve been singin a different tune

Timmy84 said:

Because his career as a doctor is over and he wants to drum up as much publicity for paid interviews as possible?

dag said:

Its Klein who has brought the discussion into debate.

I'm sure MJ is looking down on him from Heaven and is absolutely pissed off.
[Edited 8/6/09 12:28pm]

suga10 said:

That's why we said what we said. It had nothing to do with your thoughts, dag.

dearmother said:

I agree. It sucks that what happened what happen because had it not been for that, MJ would've been more "respected". I think the sad fact is because he got in trouble (or maybe he got framed) for some shit is why people will always put an asterisk around his life story. His career's history does remain untarnished when you separate his personal life.

dearmother said:

well, sadly, the fact is many people have been astonished that mj's death has had as large an effect as it has. priscilla, et al refuse to acknowlege that mj was and is as big as elvis and the beatles. we touched on this in thread one, i think. next year when mj displaces elvis as the most revenue generating dead celebrity, priscilla will be picking her face up off the floor.

lmp shouldnt have married mj (and vice versa) if she didn't want his kids. why would she say such a thing and then act all hurt and surprised when mj made good on his 'threat' to go find someone who would? i guess she tried to play and got played.

oprah has always been a tabloid reporter. over the years she's gotten better production values for her t.v. show and better hair and makeup for herself, but she always has been a gossipy tabloid queen. i've never understood why people think she's so great.

dearmother said:

I agree. It sucks that what happened what happen because had it not been for that, MJ would've been more "respected". I think the sad fact is because he got in trouble (or maybe he got framed) for some shit is why people will always put an asterisk around his life story. His career's history does remain untarnished when you separate his personal life.

Timmy84 said:

no, he wouldn't have been, b/c ever since mj won all those grammys in '84, it has been a death by a thousand paper cuts since he walked across the stage to accept them.

do you think he was 'respected' in early '93 right before the allegations, when he gave the interview to 'saint' oprah? hardly. he felt compelled to grant that interview to respond to the b.s. because he was being buried by it.

i'm old enough to remember the backlash against him '84 as well. in '87, spin's first issue was a vicious cover story on him. these allegations were simply more grist for the mill, something else to hang around his neck. he's always been barely respected by the critics. no one expected mj to blow up like he did all those years ago, and many in the press have hated him ever since.

La Toya is not well ya'll

Last night @ dinner

ViintageJunkiie said:

You mean Latoya and MJ right??
[Edited 8/4/09 15:48pm]

kibbles said:

Well of course not but I meant "respect" as in we wouldn't have heard about him being an "alleged pedophile".

Joe Jackson won't help raise son's children
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY (AP) – 1 hour ago

LOS ANGELES — Joe Jackson doesn't plan to help raise Michael Jackson's three children.

The Jackson family patriarch lives in Las Vegas and wrote in a statement filed in a Los Angeles court on Monday that he only occasionally visits the family home in the San Fernando Valley, north of downtown Los Angeles.

"I have had a close family relationship with these grandchildren since their birth," Jackson wrote in the declaration dated July 13. "I do visit the family residence from time to time and will continue to do so, however I will not be involved in raising the children."

His two-page declaration expresses support for his wife, Katherine, who on Monday was granted permanent custody of Michael Jackson's three children.

Joe Jackson wrote that his wife is "a wonderful caretaker and guardian."

A judge on Monday awarded Katherine Jackson a monthly stipend to help upkeep the family's home, where her three grandchildren are staying.

Court records released on Tuesday include forms signed by Jackson's two oldest children, Prince Michael, 12, and Paris-Michael, 11, consenting to their grandmother serving as their guardian. The documents do not include any statements by the children.

Michael Jackson named his mother as the person he wanted to raise his children if he died, according to a 2002 will.

Records filed on Monday also include consent by Jackson's ex-wife, Deborah Rowe, to Katherine Jackson's guardianship of Prince Michael and Paris-Michael, who she gave birth to while married to the King of Pop.

Under an agreement reached last week, Rowe will have some visits with the children that will be supervised by a child psychologist. A summary of the agreement filed with the court states that Rowe doesn't have any parental rights to Jackson's youngest son, Prince Michael II, also known as Blanket.

One of Katherine Jackson's attorneys, Diane Goodman, told a judge on Monday that Blanket, 7, was born to a surrogate who has no parental rights. The surrogate mother has never been identified.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
[Edited 8/4/09 18:06pm]

Timmy84 said:

I think most people forgot about 1993, but once the 2003 raids occurred, it was just the beginning of crazyness. Michael went through so much 2003-2005, and 2006 he was recoverin from that nightmare. That trial took a really big toll on him and made people hate more than ever.

Its so sad, what he went through
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