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PrintableTimmy84 said: dag said: What do you mean? That he is the biological father? Has it been confirmed officially? Have I missed something? No just presumed that he is. I mean why else is he supposedly fighting for custody?  Because his career as a doctor is over and he wants to drum up as much publicity for paid interviews as possible? | |
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suga10 said: dag said: i am not getting upset, but why claim they are not his biological, when they most probably are since noone has proved things to be otherwise. Of course adopting children is great. I am not saying it isn´t. But you know why it´s a bit different with Mike? People use it as another "proof" of him being paedophile, homosexual etc. And that´s what hurts. The homosexual stuff does not bother me, but that peadophile does. It will always make me upset. Well Mike could have easily avoided the scrutiny by adopting black children. I'm sure people would have believed him then. And we all know that Michael has created problems for himself plenty of times with the media. 
[Edited 8/6/09 12:21pm] What the hell? I am either totally misinterpreting everyone´s posts or I must have missed some big news today? Prince, Paris and Blanket were ADOPTED? Cause the way I understand the highlighted sentence is that they were adopted and he could have avoided problems by adopting a more "darker" children. [Edited 8/6/09 12:25pm] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: suga10 said: Well Mike could have easily avoided the scrutiny by adopting black children. I'm sure people would have believed him then. And we all know that Michael has created problems for himself plenty of times with the media.
[Edited 8/6/09 12:21pm] What the hell? I am either totally misinterpreting everyone´s posts or I must have missed some big news today? Prince, Paris and Blanket were ADOPTED? TMZ talked to Klein's lawyer today and he said Klein's going to fight for custody in September. http://www.tmz.com/2009/0.../#comments [Edited 8/6/09 12:25pm] | |
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dag said: dearmother said: klein and rowe are both gay What do you mean? How do you know that? (I feel like Alice in Wonderland over here today:lol:) i don't know it by any means, they both just set off my gaydar | |
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dag said: suga10 said: Well Mike could have easily avoided the scrutiny by adopting black children. I'm sure people would have believed him then. And we all know that Michael has created problems for himself plenty of times with the media.
[Edited 8/6/09 12:21pm] What the hell? I am either totally misinterpreting everyone´s posts or I must have missed some big news today? Prince, Paris and Blanket were ADOPTED? Cause the way I understand the highlighted sentence is that they were adopted and he could have avoided problems by adopting a more "darker" children. [Edited 8/6/09 12:25pm] Its Klein who has brought the discussion into debate. I'm sure MJ is looking down on him from Heaven and is absolutely pissed off.  [Edited 8/6/09 12:28pm] | |
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dearmother said: dag said: What do you mean? How do you know that? (I feel like Alice in Wonderland over here today:lol:) i don't know it by any means, they both just set off my gaydar Debbie was married before. I read an article in US magazine, and it showed her wedding photo from 1982 or around then. | |
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suga10 said: dag said: What the hell? I am either totally misinterpreting everyone´s posts or I must have missed some big news today? Prince, Paris and Blanket were ADOPTED? TMZ talked to Klein's lawyer today and he said Klein's going to fight for custody in September. http://www.tmz.com/2009/0.../#comments [Edited 8/6/09 12:25pm] The man looks more a like someone selling a beer in a pub than a lawer. Anyways, this story makes no sense to me. Dr. Arnold Klein Won't Give Up
Posted Aug 6th 2009 12:20PM by TMZ Staff The judge unceremoniously pulled the plug on Dr. Arnold Klein's attempt to insert himself in the Michael Jackson custody case on Monday ... but last night his lawyer told us the doctor will go back for a second round. Klein's lawyer, Mark Vincent Kaplan, told us last night outside Boa Steakhouse in West Hollywood he'll file legal papers on Klein's behalf sometime after the beginning of September. Last Monday, Kaplan went before the judge and expressed Klein's concerns over parenting issues involving Jackson's three kids. There are reports Dr. Klein could be the biological father, but he's never acknowledged it. The judge checkmated Kaplan, noting that Klein had no legal standing to lodge objections to the custody settlement between Katherine Jackson and Debbie Rowe. But clearly Kaplan has something up his sleeve .. So, he hasn´t proved to be the biological father, he has no objections to the custody settlements, yet he´s worried about about parenting issues. Does this make sense to anyone? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said:[quote] suga10 said: The man looks more a like someone selling a beer in a pub than a lawer. Anyways, this story makes no sense to me. Dr. Arnold Klein Won't Give Up
Posted Aug 6th 2009 12:20PM by TMZ Staff The judge unceremoniously pulled the plug on Dr. Arnold Klein's attempt to insert himself in the Michael Jackson custody case on Monday ... but last night his lawyer told us the doctor will go back for a second round. Klein's lawyer, Mark Vincent Kaplan, told us last night outside Boa Steakhouse in West Hollywood he'll file legal papers on Klein's behalf sometime after the beginning of September. Last Monday, Kaplan went before the judge and expressed Klein's concerns over parenting issues involving Jackson's three kids. There are reports Dr. Klein could be the biological father, but he's never acknowledged it. The judge checkmated Kaplan, noting that Klein had no legal standing to lodge objections to the custody settlement between Katherine Jackson and Debbie Rowe. But clearly Kaplan has something up his sleeve .. So, he hasn´t proved to be the biological father, he has no objections to the custody settlements, yet he´s worried about about parenting issues. Does this make sense to anyone? Klein's Lawyer went to court the other day on the day of Michael's custody hearing and the Judge told the lawyer to sit his ass down basically | |
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yeah she just struck me as sort of butch ya know? not michael's type at all.
perhaps mj didn't adopt random kids bc he was too concerned with genetucs and all of that, which is why he didnt use his own sperm either. such a shame | |
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Klein has no legal claim to Prince and Paris even if he is the bio dad. His claim is over now. He was supposed to try to get them within the first two years of their birth now it's too late. IDK what he's doing. | |
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dag said: So, he hasn´t proved to be the biological father, he has no objections to the custody settlements, yet he´s worried about about parenting issues. Does this make sense to anyone? nope | |
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dearmother said: yeah she just struck me as sort of butch ya know? not michael's type at all.
perhaps mj didn't adopt random kids bc he was too concerned with genetucs and all of that, which is why he didnt use his own sperm either. such a shame Why would she have to be his type? Mike wanted kids. Lisa wouldn´t give them to him, Debbie would. End of story. It´s funny how Mike´s eccentricities won´t allow people to see Mike doing anything in a normal way. Why do you think he didn´t want his OWN children when he was obviously trying to get Lisa pregnant as well? PLAYBOY: Did you and Michael discuss having kids?
PRESLEY: Yeah. [Laughs] I got out of that one. "I just don't think it's a good idea right now." But I knew that's what he wanted. And I knew Debbie Rowe was offering to do it for him while we were married, according to him. She was a nurse who had a crush on him and offered to have his babies. PLAYBOY: Was he trying to leverage you into agreeing? PRESLEY: Kind of. "Debbie Rowe says she'll do it." Ok, have Debbie Rowe do it! And it's funny, when I imagined having a child with him, all I could ever see was a custody battle nightmare. http://www.lisamarieonlin...layboy.php "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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According to Diane Dimond, Klein's lawyer is going to file for custody in September. Idk if that's true. But I don't think he can get the kids. [Edited 8/6/09 12:48pm] | |
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Michael Jackson- You really got a hold on me
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines.  | |
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again why didnt he use his own sperm? | |
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dag said: dearmother said: yeah she just struck me as sort of butch ya know? not michael's type at all.
perhaps mj didn't adopt random kids bc he was too concerned with genetucs and all of that, which is why he didnt use his own sperm either. such a shame Why would she have to be his type? Mike wanted kids. Lisa wouldn´t give them to him, Debbie would. End of story. It´s funny how Mike´s eccentricities won´t allow people to see Mike doing anything in a normal way. Why do you think he didn´t want his OWN children when he was obviously trying to get Lisa pregnant as well? PLAYBOY: Did you and Michael discuss having kids?
PRESLEY: Yeah. [Laughs] I got out of that one. "I just don't think it's a good idea right now." But I knew that's what he wanted. And I knew Debbie Rowe was offering to do it for him while we were married, according to him. She was a nurse who had a crush on him and offered to have his babies. PLAYBOY: Was he trying to leverage you into agreeing? PRESLEY: Kind of. "Debbie Rowe says she'll do it." Ok, have Debbie Rowe do it! And it's funny, when I imagined having a child with him, all I could ever see was a custody battle nightmare. http://www.lisamarieonlin...layboy.php what a bitch. Lisa Marie. | |
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dearmother said: again why didnt he use his own sperm?
Again, how do you know he didn´t use his own sperm? "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: dag said: what a bitch. Lisa Marie. How could she have married him not wanting kids when she knew he wanted kids raight away - many kids. If she didn´t want to have kids, she should have told him before they got married. I don´t think she did. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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its been all over the news | |
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i don't care for lmp she always seemed kind of embarrassed about the whole thing. | |
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IMO, he used his sperm for the youngest. Maybe after the older two he decided that he wanted to have a biological child. There's a slim chance that the older two are his bio kids but I won't completely rule it out. Stranger things have happened. | |
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dearmother said: its been all over the news
i am sorry, but that doesn´t mean anything, not when it comes to Michael Jackson. I don´t believe a thing, no matter how many newspapers report something unless they offer some kind of proof. You wouldn´t believe how many media reported that some woman was pregnant with MJ´s quadruplets and where are all of them now? [Edited 8/6/09 13:04pm] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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dag said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: what a bitch. Lisa Marie. How could she have married him not wanting kids when she knew he wanted kids raight away - many kids. If she didn´t want to have kids, she should have told him before they got married. I don´t think she did. dumb ass bitch. Really honestly... U marry the man..fuck his brains out and are totally in love with him and he with her. U CAN TELL....BODY LANGUAGE DOES NOT LIE! She looked so happy with him... she looked the most happiest when she was with him. raggedity bitch....looks like and sounds like a man now. | |
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dearmother said: i don't care for lmp she always seemed kind of embarrassed about the whole thing.
fake bitch. And her mom had the nerve to say that michael was trying to cash in on Elvis's legacy. BITCH PLEASE! Michael will always be a bigger legend than elvis. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: dag said: How could she have married him not wanting kids when she knew he wanted kids raight away - many kids. If she didn´t want to have kids, she should have told him before they got married. I don´t think she did. dumb ass bitch. Really honestly... U marry the man..fuck his brains out and are totally in love with him and he with her. U CAN TELL....BODY LANGUAGE DOES NOT LIE! She looked so happy with him... she looked the most happiest when she was with him. raggedity bitch....looks like and sounds like a man now. That´s true. You won´t find a picture of her looking happier and these were taken AFTER the divorce. 
IMO, he used his sperm for the youngest. Maybe after the older two he decided that he wanted to have a biological child. There's a slim chance that the older two are his bio kids but I won't completely rule it out. Stranger things have happened.
You know, Mike was eccentric, but I just don´t understand why he would make things this complicated. It does not make sense to me based on what he, Lisa Marie and Debbie said. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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Well that's why I'm not sure. Because the latest candids Prince could pass for hispanic and Blanket looked straight up black. So idk... | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: dearmother said: i don't care for lmp she always seemed kind of embarrassed about the whole thing.
fake bitch. And her mom had the nerve to say that michael was trying to cash in on Elvis's legacy. BITCH PLEASE! Michael will always be a bigger legend than elvis. she said that? hahahaha | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: dearmother said: i don't care for lmp she always seemed kind of embarrassed about the whole thing.
fake bitch. And her mom had the nerve to say that michael was trying to cash in on Elvis's legacy. BITCH PLEASE! Michael will always be a bigger legend than elvis. I remember Priscilla say at the Oprah Interview (the one with Lisa) that Mike had an agenda in marrying her, that he wanted to be Elvis and when Oprah asked Lisa if they had sex (as if that was something married people never do) and Lisa said yes, Priscilla said that Mike had an agenda there too because he wanted her children. And I was like YOU BET HE WANTED HER CHILDREN!!!:lol:According to Priscilla, there was an agenda in everything he did. And Lisa just sat there looking really uncomfortable and at one point as she was talking about Mike even said "mother what are you doing?" I don´t think she liked what Priscilla said, but Lisa has just always been to embarrassed to admit how much she actually loved him.[Edited 8/6/09 13:23pm] "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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StillDirrty said: Well that's why I'm not sure. Because the latest candids Prince could pass for hispanic and Blanket looked straight up black. So idk...
They have different mothers, so maybe that´s why? Debbie obviously has strong genes. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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See that's one of the reasons why I don't like Oprah. She's a nosy bitch. It's none of her business! It was either her or Diane Sawyer that asked Michael if he was a virgin. That would not be me because if it was that interview would have been over REAL quick! | |
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