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Reply #1140 posted 08/04/09 5:47pm

cdcgold

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cdcgold said:




ive seen several christmas and birthday videos with those kids and klein was no where to be seen. i read an article someone wrote who spent thanksgiving with mj and the kids. there was no mention of klein. my bet klein has spent no more "special events" with these kids than that christmas that was in that damn magazine. and thats not that big of a deal. mj spends holidays with alot of people who aren't related to him. are people forgetting katherine and some of his siblings are jehova witnesses, jermains muslim. thats why he doesn't spend alot of holidays with the family. That gut that guy thats in the picture with mj's and the kids and his kids too. even said mj spent thanksgiving with them. so i guess he's the baby daddy too. klein is full of shit. like i said theres no way he's the father and he knows it he's just trying to distract people cause the police are finding out all his shady secrets. i believe he and murray were in it together


But what was the point of Klein's lawyer being at the court hearing yesterday.
[Edited 8/4/09 17:14pm]


he's trying to get attention and distract people like i said
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Reply #1141 posted 08/04/09 6:00pm

Timmy84

Michael Jackson 'Thriller' demos unearth lost gems
02:10 PM PT, Aug 4 2009

In the continuing rush by Michael Jackson fans to celebrate his musical legacy, sales of his most popular songs and albums have set records since his unexpected death in June.

But for the more hardcore historians, it’s meant digging deeper to find the most obscure and often unreleased material possible. In the case of the “The Unheard Music” blog, that search has uncovered a trove of studio demos for Jackson’s legendary “Thriller” album produced by Quincy Jones -- the famed recording that won the Grammy for album of the year.

While many longtime fans have been collecting these versions for years, for the rest of us it’s a fascinating and ultimately rewarding glimpse into the inner workings of a classic.

There are songs that didn’t make the final cut, like “Hot Street,” which houses a potentially great chorus amid dated synthesizer sounds, and a solid if relatively pedestrian ballad, “Carousel.” An early take on “Billie Jean” stands out due to a bleating keyboard bass line instead of the cool funk of the final version.

From there it dives into random outtakes and studio detritus, such as a vocal snippet from a song called “Groove of Midnight” that features Jackson and an engineer discussing his hair growth (Jackson shouts out Sebastian hair products). There’s even a clip of “Starlight,” which was the original title of “Thriller” before Jackson decided it needed to be something catchier.

But the real find here . . .

. . .is “Love Never Felt So Good,” a fantastic song that features a multi-tracked Jackson singing over just a piano and finger snaps. It’s a classic vocal performance, rich with his trademark emotion and percussive singing style. It’s truly baffling how this song was never developed further or simply released as is.

Altogether, this collection of demos is an intriguing glimpse into the blueprints of the bestselling album of all time.

-- Scott T. Sterling

Credit: Reed Saxon / Associated Press
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Reply #1142 posted 08/04/09 6:06pm

Timmy84

Joe Jackson won't help raise son's children
By ANTHONY McCARTNEY (AP) – 1 hour ago

LOS ANGELES — Joe Jackson doesn't plan to help raise Michael Jackson's three children.

The Jackson family patriarch lives in Las Vegas and wrote in a statement filed in a Los Angeles court on Monday that he only occasionally visits the family home in the San Fernando Valley, north of downtown Los Angeles.

"I have had a close family relationship with these grandchildren since their birth," Jackson wrote in the declaration dated July 13. "I do visit the family residence from time to time and will continue to do so, however I will not be involved in raising the children."

His two-page declaration expresses support for his wife, Katherine, who on Monday was granted permanent custody of Michael Jackson's three children.

Joe Jackson wrote that his wife is "a wonderful caretaker and guardian."

A judge on Monday awarded Katherine Jackson a monthly stipend to help upkeep the family's home, where her three grandchildren are staying.

Court records released on Tuesday include forms signed by Jackson's two oldest children, Prince Michael, 12, and Paris-Michael, 11, consenting to their grandmother serving as their guardian. The documents do not include any statements by the children.

Michael Jackson named his mother as the person he wanted to raise his children if he died, according to a 2002 will.

Records filed on Monday also include consent by Jackson's ex-wife, Deborah Rowe, to Katherine Jackson's guardianship of Prince Michael and Paris-Michael, who she gave birth to while married to the King of Pop.

Under an agreement reached last week, Rowe will have some visits with the children that will be supervised by a child psychologist. A summary of the agreement filed with the court states that Rowe doesn't have any parental rights to Jackson's youngest son, Prince Michael II, also known as Blanket.

One of Katherine Jackson's attorneys, Diane Goodman, told a judge on Monday that Blanket, 7, was born to a surrogate who has no parental rights. The surrogate mother has never been identified.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.
[Edited 8/4/09 18:06pm]
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Reply #1143 posted 08/04/09 6:22pm

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they need to leave joe alone..damn



such a cute lil boy


[Edited 8/4/09 18:46pm]
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #1144 posted 08/04/09 6:23pm

ViintageJunkii
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Timmy84 said:

Michael Jackson 'Thriller' demos unearth lost gems
02:10 PM PT, Aug 4 2009

In the continuing rush by Michael Jackson fans to celebrate his musical legacy, sales of his most popular songs and albums have set records since his unexpected death in June.

But for the more hardcore historians, it’s meant digging deeper to find the most obscure and often unreleased material possible. In the case of the “The Unheard Music” blog, that search has uncovered a trove of studio demos for Jackson’s legendary “Thriller” album produced by Quincy Jones -- the famed recording that won the Grammy for album of the year.

While many longtime fans have been collecting these versions for years, for the rest of us it’s a fascinating and ultimately rewarding glimpse into the inner workings of a classic.

There are songs that didn’t make the final cut, like “Hot Street,” which houses a potentially great chorus amid dated synthesizer sounds, and a solid if relatively pedestrian ballad, “Carousel.” An early take on “Billie Jean” stands out due to a bleating keyboard bass line instead of the cool funk of the final version.

From there it dives into random outtakes and studio detritus, such as a vocal snippet from a song called “Groove of Midnight” that features Jackson and an engineer discussing his hair growth (Jackson shouts out Sebastian hair products). There’s even a clip of “Starlight,” which was the original title of “Thriller” before Jackson decided it needed to be something catchier.

But the real find here . . .

. . .is “Love Never Felt So Good,” a fantastic song that features a multi-tracked Jackson singing over just a piano and finger snaps. It’s a classic vocal performance, rich with his trademark emotion and percussive singing style. It’s truly baffling how this song was never developed further or simply released as is.

Altogether, this collection of demos is an intriguing glimpse into the blueprints of the bestselling album of all time.

-- Scott T. Sterling

Credit: Reed Saxon / Associated Press


"Love Never Felt So Good" was recorded in 1984, so I don't think that falls under a demo for Thriller
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Reply #1145 posted 08/04/09 6:38pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:

Michael Jackson 'Thriller' demos unearth lost gems
02:10 PM PT, Aug 4 2009

In the continuing rush by Michael Jackson fans to celebrate his musical legacy, sales of his most popular songs and albums have set records since his unexpected death in June.

But for the more hardcore historians, it’s meant digging deeper to find the most obscure and often unreleased material possible. In the case of the “The Unheard Music” blog, that search has uncovered a trove of studio demos for Jackson’s legendary “Thriller” album produced by Quincy Jones -- the famed recording that won the Grammy for album of the year.

While many longtime fans have been collecting these versions for years, for the rest of us it’s a fascinating and ultimately rewarding glimpse into the inner workings of a classic.

There are songs that didn’t make the final cut, like “Hot Street,” which houses a potentially great chorus amid dated synthesizer sounds, and a solid if relatively pedestrian ballad, “Carousel.” An early take on “Billie Jean” stands out due to a bleating keyboard bass line instead of the cool funk of the final version.

From there it dives into random outtakes and studio detritus, such as a vocal snippet from a song called “Groove of Midnight” that features Jackson and an engineer discussing his hair growth (Jackson shouts out Sebastian hair products). There’s even a clip of “Starlight,” which was the original title of “Thriller” before Jackson decided it needed to be something catchier.

But the real find here . . .

. . .is “Love Never Felt So Good,” a fantastic song that features a multi-tracked Jackson singing over just a piano and finger snaps. It’s a classic vocal performance, rich with his trademark emotion and percussive singing style. It’s truly baffling how this song was never developed further or simply released as is.

Altogether, this collection of demos is an intriguing glimpse into the blueprints of the bestselling album of all time.

-- Scott T. Sterling

Credit: Reed Saxon / Associated Press


"Love Never Felt So Good" was recorded in 1984, so I don't think that falls under a demo for Thriller


It's questionable on when MJ recorded it unless it was confirmed on his recording career catalog that he did record it in '84 tho I can believe it did. Anyway, Johnny Mathis ended up recording it. Michael and Paul Anka wrote it. I'm guessing it was Paul who re-wrote the lyrics tho. hmmm
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Reply #1146 posted 08/04/09 6:44pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



"Love Never Felt So Good" was recorded in 1984, so I don't think that falls under a demo for Thriller


It's questionable on when MJ recorded it unless it was confirmed on his recording career catalog that he did record it in '84 tho I can believe it did. Anyway, Johnny Mathis ended up recording it. Michael and Paul Anka wrote it. I'm guessing it was Paul who re-wrote the lyrics tho. hmmm


Yeah, but Johnny Mathis version does the original NO justice
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Reply #1147 posted 08/04/09 6:48pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



It's questionable on when MJ recorded it unless it was confirmed on his recording career catalog that he did record it in '84 tho I can believe it did. Anyway, Johnny Mathis ended up recording it. Michael and Paul Anka wrote it. I'm guessing it was Paul who re-wrote the lyrics tho. hmmm


Yeah, but Johnny Mathis version does the original NO justice


He really doesn't. lol
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Reply #1148 posted 08/04/09 6:51pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Yeah, but Johnny Mathis version does the original NO justice


He really doesn't. lol


Nope, not at all! I'd love to hear the demos that Michael did for other people.
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Reply #1149 posted 08/04/09 6:53pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



He really doesn't. lol


Nope, not at all! I'd love to hear the demos that Michael did for other people.


Speaking of, I wonder how the demos for "Muscles" and "Centipede" sounded like.
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Reply #1150 posted 08/04/09 7:10pm

dreamfactory31
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Jermaine Jackson will make another appearance on Larry Kind Live this Friday for the entire hour.
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Reply #1151 posted 08/04/09 7:12pm

Timmy84

dreamfactory313 said:

Jermaine Jackson will make another appearance on Larry Kind Live this Friday for the entire hour.


Oh won't that be fun?

I heard Frank DiLeo said MJ was "ok" with the 50 shows because he wanted to top Prince... YEAH RIGHT! I thought Mike wanted to do 10. What gives? It's a he-say, he-say thing. rolleyes
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Reply #1152 posted 08/04/09 7:13pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Nope, not at all! I'd love to hear the demos that Michael did for other people.


Speaking of, I wonder how the demos for "Muscles" and "Centipede" sounded like.


Exactly! I would love to hear those demos. I also wanna hear his solo version of "Why"
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Reply #1153 posted 08/04/09 7:15pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



Speaking of, I wonder how the demos for "Muscles" and "Centipede" sounded like.


Exactly! I would love to hear those demos. I also wanna hear his solo version of "Why"


Me too. I still don't get why he gave "Why" to 3T, that would've been a great addition to "HIStory", itself a good album. nod
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Reply #1154 posted 08/04/09 7:24pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



Exactly! I would love to hear those demos. I also wanna hear his solo version of "Why"


Me too. I still don't get why he gave "Why" to 3T, that would've been a great addition to "HIStory", itself a good album. nod


really? I don't think it would have fit with the feel of HIStory.
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Reply #1155 posted 08/04/09 7:25pm

tmo1965

midiscover said:

jamgirl said:

La Toya is not well ya'll

Last night @ dinner






falloff

La toya is vile!! Look at her stomach ill


Somebody needs to tell her you can't show your stomach after age 35 or after you have kids (I don't think she has any kids, btw), no matter how petite you are.
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Reply #1156 posted 08/04/09 7:25pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



Me too. I still don't get why he gave "Why" to 3T, that would've been a great addition to "HIStory", itself a good album. nod


really? I don't think it would have fit with the feel of HIStory.


"You Are Not Alone" can be argued that it didn't fit the HIStory album either (and "Come Together"). hmmm Just saying. shrug lol
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Reply #1157 posted 08/04/09 7:27pm

mimi07

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novabrkr said:

Copycat said:



2 million is a lot of money for such a kitsch object.


I agree, MJs taste in art is kitschy and the paintings of him being a Roman, Jesus or Angel are horrible beyond believe.

i like them... sad
"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #1158 posted 08/04/09 7:28pm

tmo1965

StillDirrty said:

BoOTyLiCioUs said:



she's right. Where has Brooke been all those years? Or any of his hollywood friends? It seemed like when he was in trouble, no one wanted anything to do with him. When quincy jones was asked about mj's trial back in 05, he said I don't know him outside of the music studio. Now the senile turtle is saying that Michael was his little brother. rolleyes Even Diana Ross is fake, they all were fake friends except for his family, unknown family friends, Gladys Knight and Liz Taylor.

Joan has done nothing but talk bad about MJ since he died. She said something to the effect good that he's dead now her grandsons are safe. Anyways, Brooke did say in an interview that they would keep in touch on the phone. He was there for her when she was going through PPD. But after a while it was hard to get in touch with him.
[Edited 8/4/09 15:08pm]


Joan needs to sit her botoxed puffed face down.
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Reply #1159 posted 08/04/09 7:37pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



really? I don't think it would have fit with the feel of HIStory.


"You Are Not Alone" can be argued that it didn't fit the HIStory album either (and "Come Together"). hmmm Just saying. shrug lol


OMG, WHY was "Come Together" even on there? That was better off on "Bad" album where it SHOULD have been. I think they put that on HIStory because they wanted something that would rival with D.S
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Reply #1160 posted 08/04/09 7:40pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



"You Are Not Alone" can be argued that it didn't fit the HIStory album either (and "Come Together"). hmmm Just saying. shrug lol


OMG, WHY was "Come Together" even on there? That was better off on "Bad" album where it SHOULD have been. I think they put that on HIStory because they wanted something that would rival with D.S


I have no clue WHY it was on there to begin with. Without it, "HIStory" would've definitely be seen as a concept album/song cycle (well that could've worked if Bruce Swedien had segued the songs on "HIStory" together). Matter of fact it would've been better putting "Ghosts", "Is It Scary", "On the Line", "Morphine" and "Superfly Sister" on "HIStory", maybe it wouldn't be a popular opinion but that definitely would've made the album more of a great album to me. nod
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Reply #1161 posted 08/04/09 7:45pm

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Timmy84 said:

ViintageJunkiie said:



OMG, WHY was "Come Together" even on there? That was better off on "Bad" album where it SHOULD have been. I think they put that on HIStory because they wanted something that would rival with D.S


I have no clue WHY it was on there to begin with. Without it, "HIStory" would've definitely be seen as a concept album/song cycle (well that could've worked if Bruce Swedien had segued the songs on "HIStory" together). Matter of fact it would've been better putting "Ghosts", "Is It Scary", "On the Line", "Morphine" and "Superfly Sister" on "HIStory", maybe it wouldn't be a popular opinion but that definitely would've made the album more of a great album to me. nod


Definitely! I would have loved to see an ACTUAL video to "Is It Scary". I can picture it now
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Reply #1162 posted 08/04/09 7:47pm

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falloff

La toya is vile!! Look at her stomach ill


Somebody needs to tell her you can't show your stomach after age 35 or after you have kids (I don't think she has any kids, btw), no matter how petite you are.

after her divorce she just busted out to dress how she wants ike mariah, i think it's because they were contolled for so many years that now they just what they want...it's kind of understandable but damn cover up a bit and get a stylist

stll love ya toy
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Reply #1163 posted 08/04/09 7:55pm

Timmy84

ViintageJunkiie said:

Timmy84 said:



I have no clue WHY it was on there to begin with. Without it, "HIStory" would've definitely be seen as a concept album/song cycle (well that could've worked if Bruce Swedien had segued the songs on "HIStory" together). Matter of fact it would've been better putting "Ghosts", "Is It Scary", "On the Line", "Morphine" and "Superfly Sister" on "HIStory", maybe it wouldn't be a popular opinion but that definitely would've made the album more of a great album to me. nod


Definitely! I would have loved to see an ACTUAL video to "Is It Scary". I can picture it now


I agree I can see the video too.
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Reply #1164 posted 08/04/09 8:37pm

sexyeyeliner

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if any of this is true, it needs to be brought out,bigtime


i believe it. remember, mc cartney called yoko some racial slur and then applied the old 'i was just joking' excuse. moreover, it was only a few months ago that i read at the bbc or daily mail website that mc cartney's comments about mj in recent interview had been edited because he came across as 'politically incorrect'.

i have never heard the media jump on mc cartney's case about owning the rights to other people's music. there's no reason why they should, but by the same token the white mainstream media always treated mj like the n****r in mc cartney's woodpile for 'stealing' the atv catalog. that's why there has been this overly involved, breathless 'reporting' about how mj was going to lose it any day now - for the past 7 years at least. smile branca has said the catalog is not for sale and as long as mj's assets outstrip his debts, even by as little as $50million, there is no reason to sell it. one could live nicely off the interest generated by $50million. (right now, the conservative estimate is that the estate is worth $200million, net of debts.) the administrators are only beholden to katherine and the children, not the rest of the family, and i think the court will uphold mj's will. they will likely apply all revenue toward paying off the loans aginst the catalog and the children will have a nice inheritance coming their way when they come of age.

i remember back in '94, newsweek was interviewing mc cartney in one of those q&a type stories, and the reporter says how it was too bad that the child abuse charges didn't pan out as mj may have had to sell the catalog back to mc cartney because it was a 'travesty' that he owned them in the first place. well, mc cartney didn't own the catalog when mj bought it so why would he have to sell it to him, and secondly why would you be wishing that a man be falsely convicted to uphold your racist position that the catalog should not have been his? liberal media my ass.
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Thanks for that input. I didn't know that stuff, but if it's true, it doesn't surprise me. F Paul McCartney.

And F JOAN RIVERS!!! She said it was good that Michael died because now she can let her grandson out. Karma is a biotch is all I have to say.
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Reply #1165 posted 08/04/09 8:40pm

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Reply #1166 posted 08/04/09 9:33pm

StillDirrty

I wish Larry King would ask better questions sometimes.Like when Frank Dileo said that the kids were talented I wanted him to inquire more.
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Reply #1167 posted 08/04/09 10:03pm

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Timmy84 said:

Michael Jackson 'Thriller' demos unearth lost gems
02:10 PM PT, Aug 4 2009


Why is this news? These are all old and have been out there for quite some time.
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Reply #1168 posted 08/04/09 10:08pm

purplesweat

Ellie said:

Timmy84 said:

Michael Jackson 'Thriller' demos unearth lost gems
02:10 PM PT, Aug 4 2009


Why is this news? These are all old and have been out there for quite some time.


Probably new to the majority of the general public.
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Reply #1169 posted 08/04/09 11:07pm

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yall need to watch this... i love everything about this performance smile

-the color
-the afros
-the dancing

"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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