mozfonky said:

I'm sure he did because he gave the publishing back in the mid 80s and Sony didn't have a stake in ATV at that time

I am the thinker, the thinking, the thought
I am the seeker, the seeking, the sought
I am the dew drop, the sunshine, the storm
I am the phenomenon, the field, the form
I am the desert, the ocean, the sky
I am the Primitive Self in you and I

Michael Jackson



Michael Jackson Tryptich
David Nordahl (American, B. 1941). A Tryptich featuring Michael Jackson depicted on the left kneeling in red robe and scepter in the act of being crowned. In the central panel as a crusader in gold and purple with a luminous sword, with textual verse overlaid. On the right, kneeling and being knighted with a sword. Oil on canvas, housed in a gilded and ebonized Neoclassical style frame. Measures 95 by 133 inches.

bboy87 said:

Explain this then,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrF9fc5MuH4



I'm getting exhausted by all the information, I like truth and seems like everyone is giving their own spins. If it weren't all over Michael I would not waste my time with any of it. At any rate, it's clear his heart was in the right place and how meaningful that had to be to the Great Little Richard. No one remembers when he tried to get his music back in the eighties, he couldn't do it. He signed to many forms as a young man out of pure naievity. Men like Michael and Prince have those men to thank, not only for their talent, but also for their mistakes. At least Michael gives up the props. I'll always hold it against Prince how egotistical he is about his influences. In most ways Michael was just a superior person to Prince.
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mozfonky said:

I do think it's been confirmed that Richard got some royalties from MJ because some of his music was sold to Northern Songs specifically the Specialty classics he recorded that made him a rock legend in the first place. I don't know how true the accounts that Sony kept Little Richard from getting the royalties are but I doubt they were since Sony didn't merge with ATV until 1995 and MJ gave him the royalties way back in the 1980s. He also tried to give Sly Stone royalties but Sly refused, a decision Sly has since regretted sadly. Sly's music (and some of Ray Charles') is part of Michael's MiJac Music catalog.
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graecophilos said:

it was jordan chandler, not gavin. The description/drawing did not match.
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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

no, I can remember, Gayvin did a drawing of Mj's penis. I was being ironic anyway, because you could not even say it was a penis, looked like a house and so this drawing did not help a all.

One really funny/stupid thing: Chandler's uncle said MJ did molest Jordy indeed, and said, Jordie would have described Mj's penis: "How could a 13yo boy otherwise know how a penis looks like?"

This made me laugh because as prude as the US people are, even they have penises before they're 21.
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I'd be frightened if I ever met a man with a penis like that drawing. Looks like it was drawn by someone who'd never seen any penis in their life.

mozfonky said:

Always. His humility and appreciation were genuine. That's why so many people love him.

Ellie said:

what, have you seen it?

WaterInYourBath said:

I would be a fan even if MJ was an asshole. I like him for the music and dance.

graecophilos said:

And Chandler's father was caught on audio tape saying how he was going to bring Michael's career down.




I also heard Jordan Chandler hangs around MJ fans

Also OJ's attorney told Michael that he would have to fight the case for 7 years, if he chose to testify. It was either that or settle the case and get it over with.
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graecophilos said:

this is what I mean, everything about the poor man comes out with "experts" "journalists" "friends" "ex-friends" all contradictory. I just saw on Geraldo the guy who took the pics of Mike's penis and he said the boy had an exact match. Everyone got an axe to grind and it's all about money and power. Makes it hard to respect what we have become as people.

graecophilos said:

i've seen it

This blog post lays out the Chandler case well.

http://floacist.wordpress...r-in-1993/

Exact match my twat! LOL, WTF is this?

http://i32.tinypic.com/10579sl.jpg

I mean look at that shit. Ooh, he has a "brown patch" somewhere. Well since he's got brown patches all over his arms, hands, legs and chest I'd expect there to be one or two elsewhere. All these camera whores saying that crap just love to give these dark undertones about what this all means. If they showed that fucking drawing up on a screen every time they gave one of those interviews it would be like some kind of comedy show.

Ellie said:

I just saw that on the blog. I'm like what the hell is that. It looks like a mushroom.

Ellie said:

right

Inside Story: The Two Sides of Dr. Conrad Murray
By Mark Gray
August 2009

Since Michael Jackson's death, the picture emerging of Dr. Conrad Murray has become increasingly grim.

Strapped for cash, the physician left his low-income patients and signed on as Jackson's personal physician for $150,000 a month, only to become a target of a manslaughter investigation amid reports he injected the pop icon with a powerful anesthesia the night before his death.

But to those who have long known him and been his patients in Texas and Nevada, the 56-year-old doctor from Grenada is no Hollywood Dr. Feelgood. He's a hero, a lifesaver. For these people, the drumbeat of news reports has been met with bafflement and anger. In one section of Houston, Murray is credited with bringing a medical facility where others dared not go. He volunteered to teach elementary school and cared so much about his patients that he offered to do video conferences with them when he couldn't personally attend to them.

In 2000, Murray opened Global Cardiovascular Associates in Las Vegas just east of the Strip, where his clientele spanned the Vegas caste system from the less fortunate to, patients say, several unidentified officials in Vegas government.

"I looked forward to going to see him because he was very warm, very good-hearted," Las Vegas patient Donna Digiacomo told PEOPLE just days after discovering her doctor was the man in the middle of the Jackson media circus. "He's not getting a fair shake at this. He's the most beautiful man you would ever know."


Humble Beginnings

Although his name will forever be associated with the King of Pop, it wasn't always glitz and glamour for Murray. Until the age of 7, he was raised by his grandparents, both of whom were farmers in Grenada. He later moved to Trinidad and Tobago to be with his mother. A hard worker, Murray bought his first house at 19, a home he would later sell and use the profits from to put himself through college. It wasn't until he was 25 when he finally met his father, who was also a doctor.

Following in his father's footsteps, Murray headed for medical school, at predominantly African-American Meharry Medical College in Nashville. Murray eventually opened a practice in Houston, the Acres Homes Heart and Vascular Institute.

"We have been so lucky to have Dr. Murray and that clinic in this community," Houston patient Ruby Mosley told PEOPLE. "There are many, many patients that thank God this man was here for them." Mosely said there are even prayer rituals for Murray in the community.


Backlash & Money Woes

For every supporter, though, there are detractors. The backlash he's faced since Jackson, 50, died last month has been so severe that Murray now has a bodyguard.



Murray, a cardiologist, has been M.I.A. at his medical practices in Houston and Las Vegas since the death, but it's not because he doesn't want to be there. "He is harassed no matter where he goes," his attorney Ed Chernoff said in a statement.

Lately it hasn't just been Jackson fans who have been hounding him. In a period of a month, Murray's businesses were hit with more than $400,000 in judgments from unpaid bills and child support obligations. It was against this financial backdrop that he accepted a job to be Jackson's personal physician during his 50 London concerts as part of the This Is It tour, a job that would have reportedly paid Murray $150,000 a month. In a letter sent to many of his patients just 10 days before Jackson's death, Murray called the job a "once in a lifetime opportunity."

His financial struggles don't end there though. More recently, the Clark County (Nevada) Recorder's Office confirmed that Murray owes $15,000 in back payments on his 5,268-square-ft. home in the ritzy Red Rock Country Club, a guarded, gated community about 20 minutes from the Las Vegas Strip. This was the home searched last month by authorities seeking evidence of propofol, the anesthesia that may have contributed to Jackson's death, and signs of prescriptions written under aliases, a felony.

According to county records, Murray bought the home in Oct. 2004, less than two years after meeting Jackson for the first time when the King of Pop brought in one of his children to be treated for a minor illness.


Friendship with Jackson

From that, a friendship later developed. Why would Michael Jackson, a man known to keep a tight inner circle, let this man in? His patients say it's his kindness and his concern for people first and foremost. One patient said Murray performed angioplasty on him three years ago without ever being guaranteed he would be paid.

Fernell Hogan, who founded the nonprofit Houston Community Education Council, said Murray is a symbol of what was right in their community. "Here we have a black doctor who's actually working in a black community servicing his own people, which is very rare. I have a campaign called Anything Is Possible to encourage kids and [Murray] is a symbol of that."


http://www.people.com/peo...84,00.html
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Whoever did that shit needs some handwriting lessons. Just looks like a very crude shape of a circumsized dick. Maybe the kid verbally said more who knows, just crazy as fuck.

La Toya is not well ya'll

Last night @ dinner

suga10 said:

well, MJ's penis apparently looks like a mushroom.

suga10 said:

she's right. Where has Brooke been all those years? Or any of his hollywood friends? It seemed like when he was in trouble, no one wanted anything to do with him. When quincy jones was asked about mj's trial back in 05, he said I don't know him outside of the music studio. Now the senile turtle is saying that Michael was his little brother. Even Diana Ross is fake, they all were fake friends except for his family, unknown family friends, Gladys Knight and Liz Taylor.
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jamgirl said:

Poor lady. Christian Audigier is there too.

mozfonky said:

There were a bunch of other drawings too of various shit. Something to do with childhood trauma but what it looked like was an adult drawing something to try and make it look like a child did it. They were pictures that you'd guess were done by a 7 year old, not a 13 year old. My guess is that Evan was the one to draw them all.

jamgirl said:

She looks ill.

Timmy84 said:

Yes she does. Very much so. La Toya's face is GONE. (the soul seems to have dimmed in her)

I feel so bad for the Jacksons.

That's probably why they couldn't muster to bury him already.

graecophilos said:

dick is crooked. There is a Can you feel it photo shoot and you can see the outline of his dick through his pants or suit i should say that he was wearing.

Ellie said:

And what is the bullshit with the word theory?? Who the fuck wrote that, kids don't write like that. Oooh lord, I don't think we'll ever get to the bottom of any of it.

Joe Jackson statement from TMZ
http://www.tmz.com/2009/0.../#comments