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Reply #810 posted 08/02/09 4:50pm

sexyeyeliner

babybugz said:

sexyeyeliner said:



How do u know?

It doesn't sound like him to me. Where is the accent? I don't care whether it is or not concerning the content of the convo. I've just never heard him ever speak (even using disguised voices) and it not sound like him.

lol Believe what you want lol


I'm just asking what your sources are. That's all. I'm not trying to argue. I don't care if it's him or not. If it's him, ok, whatever. It just doesn't sound like him.
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Reply #811 posted 08/02/09 5:10pm

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omer with his dad
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Reply #812 posted 08/02/09 5:16pm

sexyeyeliner

Insanely blessed boy. I love Michael's jackets. smile Poor Michael Bush... sad He was so excited to do the tour. sad
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Reply #813 posted 08/02/09 5:20pm

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Omer was dresses up as MJ, but he does not look like him.

I really wonder how people can belive this crap.

Have people forgotten that Mj has black genes? If he would have had children, they would have been mixed-colored and curle haired
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Reply #814 posted 08/02/09 5:27pm

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omer with his dad


Oh well. lol

I don't know why some wanna be convinced that's his son. lol
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Reply #815 posted 08/02/09 5:34pm

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I was on another board having an argument about Tyler Perry's Madea being a rip off of Martin Lawrence's characters! My position was that is pure poppycock because Martin Lawrence's character's were rip offs of Flip Wilson's Geraldine!

While I was digging up old clips of Flip Wilson doing Geraldine, to support my argument, I found this vintage clip of the Jackson 5 on the Flip Wilson show. Enjoy! cool



I found this one too!


[Edited 8/2/09 18:02pm]
I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #816 posted 08/02/09 5:34pm

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"Morphine" off the album 'Blood on the Dance Floor' kicks major ass. MJ is
is credited with playing guitar (along w/ Slash) and drums on the track, but I haven't read any past interviews where he was ever asked about his musicianship. 2 bad. I would love to have known if he was self-taught.
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oh, that's cool thumbs up! I hadn't looked at the blood on the dance floor booklet in awhile so i had to take a look and sure enough he's listed with Slash on guitar.
12/05/2011guitar
P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! whistle
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Reply #817 posted 08/02/09 5:58pm

suga10

sexyeyeliner said:

babybugz said:

That is michael on that damn phone .goodness


How do u know?

It doesn't sound like him to me. Where is the accent? I don't care whether it is or not concerning the content of the convo. I've just never heard him ever speak (even using disguised voices) and it not sound like him.


It is his voice. Even if you compare it to his voice on that prank call from Ralphige dude, it is the same.

And he perfectly mimicked Joe's voice lol

The weird thing I found about him criticizing Joe for his debt issues and sqaundering his money, and poor businessman qualities, is that it all ended up happening to Michael too. Its like history repeated itself eek eek
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Reply #818 posted 08/02/09 6:02pm

suga10

cdcgold said:



omer with his dad


lol lol

Omer looks like his dad and mom.

He looks nothing like Michael at all.

Look at Omer, he's started to look his dad now



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Reply #819 posted 08/02/09 6:04pm

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

mimi07 said:

more leaked pics
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Prince sho enjoyed his cake lol like in the posted birthday clips. What's that on Omer's nose ? confuse
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i know,prince is too cute. see look at michael's nose in this pic it looks like omer was copying him..that;'s my guess

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Reply #820 posted 08/02/09 6:12pm

sexyeyeliner

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Insanely blessed boy. I love Michael's jackets. smile Poor Michael Bush... sad He was so excited to do the tour. sad


Just so ppl know, I think he was insanely blessed because Michael took him in and they became friends. What I would have given...lol

PS-I just noticed how someone posted pics of MJ and said he looked drugged in them. LOL Ummmm...he looks like he always does when he's happy. He was probably around fans. And, I think Thome was managing his financial & business affairs. I don't think he had much to do with Michael's health. He actually seemed to care about Michael.
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Reply #821 posted 08/02/09 6:30pm

suga10

Latoya's blog about Michael

http://blog.latoyaonline.com/?p=6
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Reply #822 posted 08/02/09 6:33pm

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"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #823 posted 08/02/09 6:37pm

sexyeyeliner

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:

I don't know about worries about being poisoned. I wonder if he felt his family was trying to kill him since it was happening in Neverland, who knows why he was scared and what he was scared of. I'm actually amused Dick is even speaking out. Fool said he was gonna go on fast for 40 days "until the truth comes out", lol.

It could have been the drugs , drugs make you Paranoid


Michael wasn't being paranoid because of drugs. I'm not saying he never used drugs, nor am I in denial that he abused them. But, there was a MUCH deeper issue a LOT of people didn't know about. Michael had Sony documents that they were going to take him down, one way or the other. He also found out that Dieter Weisner (last name sp??) was hired by Sony to take the rights to Michael's name AND his right to attorney. Dieter was one of Michael's bodyguards. He was the white guy with white hair a few years back for those of you who are big fans. Anyway, Dieter asked Michael for the rights to MJ's name and got them. I don't know what the HECK he said to Michael to make Michael agree to that, but to this day, Dieter owns the name "Michael Jackson." So his image and his name on shirts, etc...Dieter owns that, not Mike. Sad. Then, Dieter started asking Michael for his right of attorney, which means if anything ever happened to Michael (death, jail time), Dieter would take of the control of his assets--including the Sony/ATV catalog. Michael said no (THANK GOD), and started to get suspicious, so he investigated Dieter. That's when they found a paper trail of evidence, and Dieter was fired. That's when Michael started to get paranoid. Apparently, Sony wanted to kill Michael, but there was a paper trail of evidence, and they knew they couldn't get away with it. And, supposedly, the mother and kids (last accusers) and maybe the DA got paid BEFORE the trial...BY SONY. The plan was to lock him behind bars so that they could take over his assets. There was a clause in his contract that says something like--if Michael's image deteriorates so much that he shouldn't be in control, they would regain possession of his half of the catalog. Sounds crazy, I know. But I asked a member of the Jackson family (who shared this with me during the trial)--why would they KILL him?? And the person said--Look, people kill people every day for hardly any money at all...for just a thousand dollars. Do you realize that in (I forgot how many) years, that catalog will be worth BILLIONS of dollars?? Do you know what people would do for BILLIONS of dollars?? And...he had a point. There is MUCH more to the Sony saga than we know, but it's TRUE. Michael had evidence. THAT is why Michael was paranoid about eating or drinking. He knew the trial was started by Sony. And, he had already had one person around him that couldn't be trusted. (Now, it's VERY apparent he had LOTS of people around him with ill intentions.) How could he trust people, besides those few that have been with him from the start?

I remember a day Michael stopped to talk to us in his car in front of the gates to go into Neverland. He rolled down the window and IMMEDIATELY started yelling to us--"IT'S A CONSPIRACY, IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!" He was sooooo....distraught. It shocked us. We just stood there stunned for a few seconds and said--"Michael...we know." We thought he was trying to tell us he was innocent and being set up. We were like--DUH. Why do you think we are out here?? lol But, now knowing what I know...he wasn't just talking about being innocent. He was talking about SONY. And, if you look back at pictures from the trial, there were a few fans that had posters with things about Sony. One of them said "F*CK SONY." They knew...

Things aren't always what they seem, guys.
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Reply #824 posted 08/02/09 6:40pm

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Reply #825 posted 08/02/09 6:40pm

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Warning 3 Days Before Death of Jackson: Nurse Anesthetists Publish Dangers of Propofol Abuse
July 2009

The American Association of Nurse Anesthetists published a statement on June 22 warning of potentially fatal results when the anesthetic agent Propofol (Diprivan) is abused, just 3 days before Michael Jackson died of a possible overdose of the drug.

The association also warned that Propofol has properties which make it a potential drug of abuse and addiction, indeed reports of Propofol abuse and fatal, accidental self administered overdose have been reported since 1992 and are on the increase.

The majority of incidents of abuse are among health care providers since Propofol is an intravenous medication which is use only inside hospitals, outpatient surgery centers and clinics. "Our concern has been growing over the ease of access to propofol within hospitals compared to other drugs of abuse like morphine.

Most disturbing is a 30-50% incidence of fatal outcomes when this dangerous drug is abused. Propofol stops breathing, followed in 4-5 minutes with cardiac arrest due to lack of oxygen" says Greg Stocks CRNA, a peer assitance advisor at the association.

Propofol has no approved clinical use outside of health care institutions and is not available by prescription.

It is never indicated for treatment of insomnia. Despite the potential for Propofol abuse, it is not a drug controlled or restricted by the DEA and is treated no differently than antibiotics.

Some hospitals and anesthesia departments have taken their own steps in securing and accounting for their supplies of Propofol after it became clear to them that a high incidence of fatal overdose results from abuse.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt...DOC-290637
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Reply #826 posted 08/02/09 6:43pm

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Warning 3 Days Before Death of Jackson: Nurse Anesthetists Publish Dangers of Propofol Abuse
July 2009

The American Association of Nurse Anesthetists published a statement on June 22 warning of potentially fatal results when the anesthetic agent Propofol (Diprivan) is abused, just 3 days before Michael Jackson died of a possible overdose of the drug.

The association also warned that Propofol has properties which make it a potential drug of abuse and addiction, indeed reports of Propofol abuse and fatal, accidental self administered overdose have been reported since 1992 and are on the increase.

The majority of incidents of abuse are among health care providers since Propofol is an intravenous medication which is use only inside hospitals, outpatient surgery centers and clinics. "Our concern has been growing over the ease of access to propofol within hospitals compared to other drugs of abuse like morphine.

Most disturbing is a 30-50% incidence of fatal outcomes when this dangerous drug is abused. Propofol stops breathing, followed in 4-5 minutes with cardiac arrest due to lack of oxygen" says Greg Stocks CRNA, a peer assitance advisor at the association.

Propofol has no approved clinical use outside of health care institutions and is not available by prescription.

It is never indicated for treatment of insomnia. Despite the potential for Propofol abuse, it is not a drug controlled or restricted by the DEA and is treated no differently than antibiotics.

Some hospitals and anesthesia departments have taken their own steps in securing and accounting for their supplies of Propofol after it became clear to them that a high incidence of fatal overdose results from abuse.

http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt...DOC-290637


FML. I wish someone would have known and could have done something...I wish he would have seen this...there are just so many things I wish could change. sad
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Reply #827 posted 08/02/09 6:48pm

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[Edited 8/2/09 18:49pm]
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Reply #828 posted 08/02/09 6:59pm

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With his enormous talent, Michael kept giving us power, inspiration and joy.
Yet he knew that the world was not kind to him for many reasons,
some of it going right back to racism.

That must have been so hard for him.
His various attempts to be loved by the world equaled the pain he received from it.

Michael, now you are free from all that.
Rest well in Peace.
We will always remember you and love you for what you were to us.

With love,
Yoko Ono Lennon
June, 2009.
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #829 posted 08/02/09 7:11pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

bboy87 said:




With his enormous talent, Michael kept giving us power, inspiration and joy.
Yet he knew that the world was not kind to him for many reasons,
some of it going right back to racism.

That must have been so hard for him.
His various attempts to be loved by the world equaled the pain he received from it.

Michael, now you are free from all that.
Rest well in Peace.
We will always remember you and love you for what you were to us.

With love,
Yoko Ono Lennon
June, 2009.



cry sad sad rose
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Reply #830 posted 08/02/09 7:11pm

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cute! biggrin
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Reply #831 posted 08/02/09 7:31pm

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Diprivan: The Inside Story on The Drug That May Have Killed Jackson
By Alex Tresniowski
August 2, 2009
Link

It's a sedative called Diprivan, and police searching Michael Jackson's Holmby Hills mansion after his June 25 death found it – along with IV stands and oxygen cylinders – in the home.

Official toxicology results have yet to be released, but preliminary results of Jackson's autopsy showed the anesthetic Propofol – another name for Diprivan – may have played a part in his death.

And authorities specifically were searching for evidence of propofol at the home of Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, who investigators reportedly believe gave the singer the drug the night before he died. (Murray claims he did not give Jackson any drugs that "should have" led to his death).

Refreshed


If Jackson was indeed taking Propofol to help him sleep, as some reports indicate, it would have been a serious misuse of the drug. Common as an anesthetic for colonoscopies and plastic surgery, Propofol is given intravenously and works quickly and safely – it slips patients into a deep sleep as soon as the IV is put in, but allows them to wake up easily once the IV is removed.

The powerful anesthetic is considered a clean drug, meaning that it clears the system more quickly than other anesthetics such as sodium pentothal, which tends to circulate into the blood stream once the infusion is stopped, prolonging the patient's drowsiness.

Propofol "is short-acting: quick to sleep and quick to wake-up. It's a wonderful, wonderful drug," says Dr. Barry L. Friedberg, an associate professor of anesthesia at UC Irvine. "People feel refreshed afterward. They don't feel like they've just had surgery."


Proper Monitoring

But there's a huge catch: Propofol "has never been intended for home use," says Friedberg. "It's extremely safe, so long as you monitor it." Friedberg recommends that a brain monitor be attached to any patient being given the drug, and that an anesthesiologist be present throughout the procedure to monitor brain function.

"A patient's breathing patterns must be monitored to ensure the dose will not put them in respiratory distress," says Dr. Nora D. Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. "If you're not being properly monitored, it can be quite dangerous."

In fact, the Drug Enforcement Administration is currently evaluating propofol to determine whether or not it should be considered a controlled substance and have its use regulated by the government.


Rarely Abused

Is it possible Propofol could become the next OxyContin? "There have been several reports" of its abuse," says Volkow. "It's not that easy to become addicted to it because you have to know how to inject yourself," says Voklow. "It's not a frequently abused drug because it's tough to administer. A medical student who knows how to administer might end up abusing it."

A police source reportedly told the Associated Press that Jackson arranged to have himself hooked up to a Propofol drip so he could fall asleep, then had it disconnected in the morning.

But Propofol is a temporary sedative, not a sleep-aid, and using it all night long, without being properly monitored, is "just begging for something bad to happen," says Dr. Friedberg.

"Had Michael Jackson had a brain monitor and someone there who knew what they were doing, he'd probably still be alive," he says. eek
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Reply #832 posted 08/02/09 7:41pm

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sexyeyeliner said:

Timmy84 said:

It was confirmed that it was private phone calls between MJ and this woman during the preliminary hearings of the 1993 grand trial. MJ & Glenda didn't know they were being recorded (by Glenda's husband at the time).



Confirmed by who?? I REALLY don't believe that's him. Yeah, he can have a deep or high voice, but it ALWAYS sounds like Michael. You can always tell it's him. Michael has a bit of an accent. He has a very distinctive tone in his voice, and I never hear it through the whole convo. Plus, I don't think he had dogs.


It sounds like some fan or someone trying to sound like him. I've never heard anything out of his mouth that I couldn't tell RIGHT AWAY it was his voice, deep or not.


I thought the same thing when I first heard those recordings. I know Michael's voice very well too, especially how he pronounced words, and his habit of leaving certain words that should be pluralized in their singular forms, lol. The person talking to Glenda does not sound like him to me either.

And you're right about the dogs. He's said that he didn't like them, 'cause "they bite." Also, the stories told about Joe's affairs, and the girl MJ tried to persuade to not have sex with Jackie came straight out of Taraborrelli's book, that was released 2 years earlier. lol
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Reply #833 posted 08/02/09 7:49pm

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Diprivan: The Inside Story on The Drug That May Have Killed Jackson
By Alex Tresniowski
August 2, 2009
Link

It's a sedative called Diprivan, and police searching Michael Jackson's Holmby Hills mansion after his June 25 death found it – along with IV stands and oxygen cylinders – in the home.

Official toxicology results have yet to be released, but preliminary results of Jackson's autopsy showed the anesthetic Propofol – another name for Diprivan – may have played a part in his death.

And authorities specifically were searching for evidence of propofol at the home of Jackson's personal physician, Dr. Conrad Murray, who investigators reportedly believe gave the singer the drug the night before he died. (Murray claims he did not give Jackson any drugs that "should have" led to his death).

Refreshed


If Jackson was indeed taking Propofol to help him sleep, as some reports indicate, it would have been a serious misuse of the drug. Common as an anesthetic for colonoscopies and plastic surgery, Propofol is given intravenously and works quickly and safely – it slips patients into a deep sleep as soon as the IV is put in, but allows them to wake up easily once the IV is removed.

The powerful anesthetic is considered a clean drug, meaning that it clears the system more quickly than other anesthetics such as sodium pentothal, which tends to circulate into the blood stream once the infusion is stopped, prolonging the patient's drowsiness.

Propofol "is short-acting: quick to sleep and quick to wake-up. It's a wonderful, wonderful drug," says Dr. Barry L. Friedberg, an associate professor of anesthesia at UC Irvine. "People feel refreshed afterward. They don't feel like they've just had surgery."


Proper Monitoring

But there's a huge catch: Propofol "has never been intended for home use," says Friedberg. "It's extremely safe, so long as you monitor it." Friedberg recommends that a brain monitor be attached to any patient being given the drug, and that an anesthesiologist be present throughout the procedure to monitor brain function.

"A patient's breathing patterns must be monitored to ensure the dose will not put them in respiratory distress," says Dr. Nora D. Volkow, director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse. "If you're not being properly monitored, it can be quite dangerous."

In fact, the Drug Enforcement Administration is currently evaluating propofol to determine whether or not it should be considered a controlled substance and have its use regulated by the government.


Rarely Abused

Is it possible Propofol could become the next OxyContin? "There have been several reports" of its abuse," says Volkow. "It's not that easy to become addicted to it because you have to know how to inject yourself," says Voklow. "It's not a frequently abused drug because it's tough to administer. A medical student who knows how to administer might end up abusing it."

A police source reportedly told the Associated Press that Jackson arranged to have himself hooked up to a Propofol drip so he could fall asleep, then had it disconnected in the morning.

But Propofol is a temporary sedative, not a sleep-aid, and using it all night long, without being properly monitored, is "just begging for something bad to happen," says Dr. Friedberg.

"Had Michael Jackson had a brain monitor and someone there who knew what they were doing, he'd probably still be alive," he says. eek
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Got damn! eek
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Reply #834 posted 08/02/09 7:49pm

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WaterInYourBath said:

sexyeyeliner said:




Confirmed by who?? I REALLY don't believe that's him. Yeah, he can have a deep or high voice, but it ALWAYS sounds like Michael. You can always tell it's him. Michael has a bit of an accent. He has a very distinctive tone in his voice, and I never hear it through the whole convo. Plus, I don't think he had dogs.


It sounds like some fan or someone trying to sound like him. I've never heard anything out of his mouth that I couldn't tell RIGHT AWAY it was his voice, deep or not.


I thought the same thing when I first heard those recordings. I know Michael's voice very well too, especially how he pronounced words, and his habit of leaving certain words that should be pluralized in their singular forms, lol. The person talking to Glenda does not sound like him to me either.

And you're right about the dogs. He's said that he didn't like them, 'cause "they bite." Also, the stories told about Joe's affairs, and the girl MJ tried to persuade to not have sex with Jackie came straight out of Taraborrelli's book, that was released 2 years earlier. lol


THANK YOU! lol ALL of that mess is known or could be known easily by fans.

Also, Michael never said "excuse me" when he didn't hear someone. He always said "Pardon?"

Edit: To my knowledge, Michael never had a dog until Prince and Paris came along. I *think* it was a Golden Retriever he got just for them. But, he didn't like dogs.
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sexyeyeliner said:

WaterInYourBath said:



I thought the same thing when I first heard those recordings. I know Michael's voice very well too, especially how he pronounced words, and his habit of leaving certain words that should be pluralized in their singular forms, lol. The person talking to Glenda does not sound like him to me either.

And you're right about the dogs. He's said that he didn't like them, 'cause "they bite." Also, the stories told about Joe's affairs, and the girl MJ tried to persuade to not have sex with Jackie came straight out of Taraborrelli's book, that was released 2 years earlier. lol


THANK YOU! lol ALL of that mess is known or could be known easily by fans.

Also, Michael never said "excuse me" when he didn't hear someone. He always said "Pardon?"


Yep, that's right. nod
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Reply #836 posted 08/02/09 7:57pm

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sexyeyeliner said:

WaterInYourBath said:



I thought the same thing when I first heard those recordings. I know Michael's voice very well too, especially how he pronounced words, and his habit of leaving certain words that should be pluralized in their singular forms, lol. The person talking to Glenda does not sound like him to me either.

And you're right about the dogs. He's said that he didn't like them, 'cause "they bite." Also, the stories told about Joe's affairs, and the girl MJ tried to persuade to not have sex with Jackie came straight out of Taraborrelli's book, that was released 2 years earlier. lol


THANK YOU! lol ALL of that mess is known or could be known easily by fans.

Also, Michael never said "excuse me" when he didn't hear someone. He always said "Pardon?"

Edit: To my knowledge, Michael never had a dog until Prince and Paris came along. I *think* it was a Golden Retriever he got just for them. But, he didn't like dogs.
[Edited 8/2/09 19:53pm]


Yeah you got a point. Then again, the Jackson family did have dogs when MJ was younger. hmmm
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Reply #837 posted 08/02/09 8:02pm

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I saw a video of him petting Gregory Peck's dog Blanket. He seemed to like him.
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Reply #838 posted 08/02/09 8:05pm

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sexyeyeliner said:

WaterInYourBath said:



I thought the same thing when I first heard those recordings. I know Michael's voice very well too, especially how he pronounced words, and his habit of leaving certain words that should be pluralized in their singular forms, lol. The person talking to Glenda does not sound like him to me either.

And you're right about the dogs. He's said that he didn't like them, 'cause "they bite." Also, the stories told about Joe's affairs, and the girl MJ tried to persuade to not have sex with Jackie came straight out of Taraborrelli's book, that was released 2 years earlier. lol


THANK YOU! lol ALL of that mess is known or could be known easily by fans.

Also, Michael never said "excuse me" when he didn't hear someone. He always said "Pardon?"

Edit: To my knowledge, Michael never had a dog until Prince and Paris came along. I *think* it was a Golden Retriever he got just for them. But, he didn't like dogs.
[Edited 8/2/09 19:53pm]

Nah he had dogs growing up but he grew to be afraid of them. He and Janet had a dog that they shared ownership o


sidenote: how are you gonna have lions, chimpanzees, elephants, and tigers yet be afraid of dogs? lol
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Reply #839 posted 08/02/09 8:09pm

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bboy87 said:

sexyeyeliner said:



THANK YOU! lol ALL of that mess is known or could be known easily by fans.

Also, Michael never said "excuse me" when he didn't hear someone. He always said "Pardon?"

Edit: To my knowledge, Michael never had a dog until Prince and Paris came along. I *think* it was a Golden Retriever he got just for them. But, he didn't like dogs.
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Nah he had dogs growing up but he grew to be afraid of them. He and Janet had a dog that they shared ownership o


sidenote: how are you gonna have lions, chimpanzees, elephants, and tigers yet be afraid of dogs? lol


He rather be with a snake (that can kill you with one bite on the hand) than a dog that is not infested with rabies. lol
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