Gotta be his sexiest performance...

purplesweat said:

Come Together..right?

You know,I was listening to this yesterday,and I am still trying to figure out what a walrus cracker is.
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Timmy84 said:

LOL like i've been trying not to buy into the omer bhatti, hidden child hysteria shit but idk man. the thing tht got me is wat joseph said (k yea he's nuts but c'mon, this is kinda serious) and judging from these pics it seems like this kid was alllwaays around. i mean, u dont see any other random brats all up in his house chillin with the kids. and then its like u look @them side by side and the similarities r def there. granted omer looks more like post op mj but still lol..idk man

EmeraldSkies said:

Not me! I was in my truck, less than an hour ago and bitching about what was being played on the radio. My thoughts were..."it's a damn shame that Michael is gone and crap is all that is left! As I pulled into the long drive-way, of the sanctuary that is my home, that song began to play and I couldn't get out of my truck. I just sat there looking at the stars and I swear on everything I hold dear, I could feel Michael, all around me!

There was a lone male deer, nibbling from one of the apple trees in my yard as I pulled into my garage. Usually, the deers run off, as humans approach. I had my windows down and that song was blasting and my lights were on, yet this deer did not move. He looked at me as I looked at him and he did not run. I sat there and finished listening to the song. When it was over, I got out of my truck and entered my sun porch. From the glow of the lights on my sun porch, I could see that he was still there eating and I said, "Goodnight, Michael!", came in and posted that video. People will think what they want and I can't stop them but I know what I felt and it felt very good to me and I was compelled to share it!

wow michael did not ask one single question to glenda about her life...he was all ME ME ME

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I truely believe you just have to be open to it.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Glad you shared it.

Swa said:

No, the book was originally a bash fest but then after Michael died, and he saw the love he was getting, dude hastily rewrote it and retitled it

It's definitely not an honest assessment. If that's the case, I'd rather read the new edition of The Magic and The Madness

Neverland Tourists Descend on a Wary Santa Ynez Valley
August 1


Five years after central California's low-key, vineyard-dappled Santa Ynez Valley played a splashy supporting role in the Oscar-winning movie Sideways, the faithful keep coming.

Every week, vacationing oenophiles wander into the Los Olivos Wine Merchant & Café to ask where the film's four stars shared their first on-screen toast. Just recently, recalls waitress Laurie Madsen, two New Yorkers planted themselves at the bar, addressed each other as Sideways lead characters Miles and Jack, and exchanged bits of dialogue between swigs of the valley's legendary Pinot Noir.

But Hollywood and vines aren't the only lures around little Los Olivos (pop. 1,000) this summer, and wine lovers aren't its only pilgrims. As Madsen launches into her Sideways story, a young musician from Ohio interrupts for directions. His family's destination, about a 10-minute drive down a narrow two-lane road: Neverland Ranch, the scandal-tinged estate of Michael Jackson, who died unexpectedly June 25.

No matter that Jackson moved away from the 4-square-mile spread in 2005, vowing never to return after his acquittal on child molestation charges. Never mind that the exotic animals, amusement park rides and Disneyland-like railroad were gone long before the entertainer's death, or that curious tourists can't see anything but pastures and oak trees from the closed and guarded entrance gates on Figueroa Mountain Road. Even the name has changed back to its previous one, Sycamore Valley Ranch.

Such setbacks haven't stopped up to hundreds of fans a day from pausing to snap photos at an ad hoc shrine of wilted posies, heartfelt scribblings and stuffed chimpanzees. And though the chances of The Gloved One's former retreat becoming a tourist draw on the scale of Elvis Presley's Graceland appear slim at best, the prospect is churning controversy in the valley Jackson called home for nearly two decades.

"As macabre as it seems, we have seen a blip" in business since the singer's death, says gift store owner Thorn Kinersly. He sells Neverland T-shirts in nearby Solvang, a Danish-themed tourist town better known for faux half-timbers and dirndled waitresses than for Thriller videos. But, Kinersly says, "you can't rewrite history: The ranch will always be associated with Jackson."

They're vocal about liking the quiet

That's just what worries community activists behind Never!. The grassroots coalition, launched last week, opposes "all attempts, including creation of a burial site, to convert the beautiful and secluded former Neverland ranch into a commercial venue or Graceland-like tourist attraction."

"Jackson moved to the Santa Ynez Valley for the seclusion, and almost everyone (about 20,000 residents valley-wide) is here for the same reason," says Never! spokesman Bob Field, who advocates re-creating a version of Neverland in Las Vegas.

Located about 40 miles north of Santa Barbara via an old stagecoach route, this rugged, largely rural area clings to its cowpoke heritage.

Housing subdivisions sprinkle hillsides near the valley's largest municipalities, Solvang and Buellton. A post-Sideways tourism boost has prompted a gaggle of wineries and tasting rooms, and a controversial, Vegas-worthy casino resort built by the native Chumash Indian tribe draws gamblers and music fans to the town of Santa Ynez.

Still, most of the valley remains tagged for agricultural use. Cattle ranches, u-pick-'em orchards and manicured horse farms (Seabiscuit was filmed here, and Monty Roberts of "horse whispering" fame is a local) commingle with vineyards whose strict zoning restrictions preclude on-site, Napa Valley-like hotels and restaurants. One new tour company, Vino Vaqueros, offers wine tastings, picnic lunches, and horseback rides through the vineyards at Fess Parker Winery.

Tour de France cyclist Lance Armstrong used to train on the area's roadways — including Neverland's Figueroa Mountain Road, which winds into the punishingly steep reaches of the Los Padres National Forest. And notwithstanding a new Los Olivos purveyor of wine-infused cupcakes, the most popular item on local menus is "Santa Maria tri-tip," a dry-rub beef barbecue that dates back to the region's 19th-century Spanish cowboys.



No plans for a Jackson 'shrine'

Neverland's owner, a Los Angeles-based private equity firm called Colony Capital, has been officially mum about its future. But this month, says Los Olivos real-estate agent and newspaper columnist William Etling, Colony invited prominent locals for tours and reassured them there were no plans to bury Jackson on the property or to turn the grounds into a Graceland-type museum. Any such move would entail years of legal wrangling, given a lack of infrastructure and past zoning battles, he adds.

"Can you imagine 100,000 or more devoted fans visiting such a shrine, then dashing over to Los Olivos to find a restroom? We can't imagine it. We can't imagine that county government could imagine it. It just won't happen," Thursday's editorial in the Santa Ynez Valley News noted

But while many valley residents want Jackson pilgrims to just beat it, some see their presence as a potential boon in an era when sales of $14-a-glass Pinot Noir are slipping.

And, even with nothing more to ponder than a few crumpled balloons and a "You're Singing With the Angels Now" banner, Neverland continues to draw visitors — including 23-year-old Ohio musician Brent Jackson and his family, The Jacksons.

As part of a cross-country concert tour, parents Bruce and Brenda and offspring Brent, Brittany, Brook and Bryson have already paid homage at Memphis' Graceland. Now, on their way to San Francisco, they've pulled over on a balmy, star-filled evening to do the same for the King of Pop.

"It feels like something huge happened here," says patriarch Bruce. " And if they ever opened it up, this place would be one amazing destination."

http://www.usatoday.com/t...lley_N.htm

did any dutch fans see the uri geller thing?

he showed private videos of michael and spoke about him ,,, and he looked so out of it. films where from 2001 - 2003 and he looks drugged up

bboy87 said:

Actually if that were the case BBoy it would have been a massive re-write. He is actually quite compelling in his argument that MJ was set up both times and his investigation reveals a lot - also he seems to take target with Diane Diamond for her unwillingness to see things objectively. I doubt the guy could have / would have been able to rewrite the book in the short period between Michael's death and it being published.

As for Magic and The Madness reissue I've got that too and been skimming it. The final chapter is actually quite touching with it hitting home to Taborelli that Michael was human first, and superstar second.

Like I said, it's not for all fans but it is interesting none the less.

Swa
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Swa said:

I saw this guy on TV the night MJ died and he said then that he'd re-evaluated things and had changed the book before then. I think he said he was going to update it after MJ's passing.

Swa said:

That's the part I'm talking about

The book was originally titled "Peter Pan or Pervert" and was going paint Michael as a child molestor

check out what TSCM said the other day



The only book I'm interested in is Bruce Swedien's book. I skimmed through it this afternoon. Pretty good

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Swa said:

I´d love to read that one too.

dag said:

You should. I skimmed through it today. It's pretty good

bboy87 said:

Is it somewhere online? I don´t think I´ll be able to buy it here.

dag said:

It's on Amazon. It's titled "In The Studio With Michael Jackson"

bboy87 said:

Yes, correct. When he initially set our to investigate he was convinced of Michael's guilt based solely on the media coverage. When he started investigating he soon discovered things were not as they seemed, and drew more and more convinced over Michael's innocence.

As I say, not trying to defend or bash the book but he didn't flip the book after Michael died, it was the book that was in the works and ready to run off the presses. Only after Michael died did he change the introduction and added a final chapter.

Like I said not for everyone. But just wanted to clear that up.

Oh and I've ordered the Bruce Sweiden book too - so looking forward to it. Always good when the talk is on the music.

Swa

Swa said:

I understand Swa, I'm just saying that people need to be careful because right now, people are falling for alot of bullshit, including this guy's stuff

I think he's doing that to manipulate people. He said he infiltrated Michael's team as a hair dresser This guy has gone to jail for lying on people

I don't trust him and his book is BS He never had credibility along with some of these other "insiders"

I'm avoiding the coverage because it's gotten out of control. These people trying to understand Michael and when everything was there, all they had to do give it a chance yet decided to go for the crap


Swa, you're gonna like Bruce's book. I just wish he gone into depth like include recording dates, info on unreleased material...stuff I wanted to know
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Yeah, I agree, people are falling for a WHOLE LOT of b.s. now...

Timmy84 said:

Dude looks a little off too....


I want people to write books and be real about it. No bullshit, we had enough of that when he was alive, we don't need more now

bboy87 said:

Oh god, this is so adorable.

Swa said:

I actually don't mind the magic and the madness. I doubt it is 100% the truth, the mere fact Randy . T covers whole conversations in the book prove the book has its flaws, unless he was in the room whilst those conversations were taking place with a tape recorder I can't see how he could put some of those conversations in his book. However, it is probably the most objective book you will get about MJ.
He doesn't sugar coat MJ personality, like some fans would like, but neither does he completely destroy MJ reputation.. He doesn't call him a Pedo he just questions the closeness to children that are not related to him and how it looks in society, lets face it sharing your bed with unrelated children out of habit will raise eyebrows no matter how innocent. He basically states that MJ and Lisa Marie had a healthy sex life during their brief marriage, something that most other authors and the public like to dismiss. As I said before it is a book that is flawed, however Randy T tries to reconcile Michael's unique upbringing with the reality of his life.

EmeraldSkies said:

Me too !!! this was the first time I said wow he just run his mouth like the rest of us