Timmy84 said:

But dude's been touring and working since he was a kid, Mike thought he deserved a break.

I was watching him talk about the Bad tour and touring in general when he says the constant changing of time-zones threw him off sleep and his adrenaline is up so much after a show he can't sleep.

Plus Katherine said in an interview for Number ones that Michael was like this from Off the Wall days....sleeping wise...he'd get up in the middle of the night and yell 'WOO-HOO' saying he got inspiration for a song and would not sleep for the rest of the night....a constant beat in his head.

jamgirl said:

I'm beginning to think MJ had been suffering from insomnia since the Jackson 5 days. He had to get up early in the morning just to rehearse and accounts said even then, MJ would rehearse to death. One of his early band mates from the J5 days said they had to tell MJ to "stop" because they thought he was killing himself while he was pushing himself to perfect a dance step he was working on. And MJ was EIGHT back then!

jamgirl said:

That's the first inclusion I had: his heart finally couldn't take anymore. That's why I said it'll be hard to prove that just Diprivan killed him.

Timmy84 said:

This sleep thing has been on and poppin for a LONG TIME.

Michael couldn't sleep for ages.

And he just tried more and more to get to sleep, and the shit he did was NO GOOD.

Plus combined with his proven Medical issues....

Timmy84 said:

Timmy84 said:

Then he would have died of natural causes.

jamgirl said:

Right, MJ had it very rough. I can't even imagine the pain he was suffering even emotionally. It was all too much. Great music but a sad life.

suga10 said:

No one believes he died of natural causes. Your heart can give out due to different things than "natural causes", suga. Come on now.

Timmy84 said:

Not all sad. I don't but into that Tragic Tortured Life thing.

After watching his life @ home and shit, Mike had really wonderful happy periods and times in his life but when shit was bad, it was really bad,

I refuse to call his life tragic.

jamgirl said:

It's only tragic because of the assholes he got involved with. True his life wasn't at all sad, it wasn't rosy either.
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Timmy84 said:

Word. Mike wasn't wizin up to the evil of the human heart, by the time he did...

Timmy84 said:

Certainly. I guess you could say he had the absolute highest of highs and deepest of sorrows.

jamgirl said:

He put his life in people's hands so many times, I'm actually surprised he LIVED to 50 now that I think about it! True his death could've been prevented (I'm hearing so many different accounts as to what went on that day that I don't know WHAT to believe anymore) but you know, at least his kids got old enough to know that he loved them.

Timmy84 said:

Yup. All that matters in the end.

dreamfactory313 said:

Remember Mike said that about 2 years ago about his life :It's been the best of times, the worst of times, but I would not change my life and career

Graycap23 said:

That really was funny.

jamgirl said:

Yeah I remembered that quote.

Seems like Michael and Kai Chase had a special bond of some sorts

Timmy84 said:

Brotha was quotin Dickens!

suga10 said:

How long did she say she knew him?

jamgirl said:

Timmy84 said:

I started attending dance classes this year and I was shocked how physically demanding it is. It looks so easy, but than you try it and find out it´s like working out in a gym. Are there any other artist of his age who are doing so much dancing? I can´t think of one except for Madonna and we´ve all seen how she looks right now. I mean she´s always been working out etc. that´s why she´s stilů probably handling it all. Mike has always said he hated to work out and I dont´think he did when he was not touring. It´s true that other people tour at 50, but nobody dances like these two so maybe the rehearsals might have played their part in his death. Who knows. Hope we´ll find out soon.
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jamgirl said:

In which interview did he say that? I can´t remember this quote right now.

dag said:

It came from the Associated Press around 2006. I think that's when he made his first public comments following the trial if I remember correctly. This was when he had visited Japan or that army base.

dag said:

MJ did say they were working him too hard, i.e., "they're killing me with these rehearsals"...

What I don't get is the media is making it seems like he's some huge non functioning properly junkie. What I don't get is:
1) How did he pass the phsycial?
2) How was he rehearsing (because he rehearsed often more than once a day)
3) How did people like the chef not see him strung out all the time?

I'm not saying that he wasn't an addict. I'm just saying that it doesn't make sense.

StillDirrty said:

The more you ask questions, you get three or four different answers.

Either he was an addict or he wasn't.
Either he was anorexic or he was healthy.
Either he was doing fine or looking sick from "rehearsing".
Either the dude who gave him the drug killed him or tried to revive him with no luck for an hour and a half or two hours.
Either he was in his room or he wasn't.
Either the doctor lived with him or didn't.


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THIS FOOL!

http://abcnews.go.com/Ent...623&page=1

DesireeNevermind said:

I should've known it was Joey.

Timmy84 said:

he is a ryte mess!