Evvy said:

They were probably worried about being cutoff from their money payment from Michael for Havenhurst. I heard the Jacksons have financial issues going on.

It a shame they didn't do a serious intervention. They just let this shit go on for years. Absolutely pathetic


Least Britney's father managed to turn her whole life around by getting involved during the lowest point of her life.
[Edited 7/31/09 7:14am]

seeingvoices12 said:

will.i.am has no reason to ly about that stuff , and ne yo saying stuff like mike convinced him that he was mike by singing one of ne yo's tunes.

btw he sings lost children in one of that home movies that recently leaked and it sounded well too

http://www.youtube.com/wa...0ml-Dz6KA4

will.i.am on working with mike the last 3 years

lazycrockett said:

Its possible for Michael to have place the drugs in a hidden place where the children could not find them.

Unless a person doesn't know the man and how he raised his children, its wrong to say that person is a bad parent.

Its like telling a person they are snob, without having met that person.

I'm not excusing Michael over the drugs, but all human beings have their flaws.
[Edited 7/31/09 7:37am]

omg

I bet the Autopsy report will be delayed again next week.

My guess: They can't figure out his cause of death.

suga10 said:

The media is playing with us
to keep this circus going on
like a soap opera!

It's hard to believe that he's gone. Had to say that.

She compares Michael to JESUS???



That is going to far...

suga10 said:

It just ain't that easy all the time. I been watching family members do utterly stupid shit for all my life. You can only do so much and even that is a strain. You try to tell someone they are killing themselves slowly and they get angry and defensive. You leave me with no choice but to back off and watch as you slowly let yourself go. You leave me with the guilt, the bad memories, at least that's how it works for my family. You can't expect babysitters, you can't expect someone to abduct someone and force them to do anything. Now, you consider someone with michaels power, no way in hell anyone is going to tell him what to do, that is evident by the sleepovers after he'd already been burnt.

What Michael are you remembering with his passing? I find myself more and more remembering little Michael and reliving my own childhood in the process.

suga10 said:

I love Kai!

I watched Private Home Movies twice last night...

I LOOOVED when they went down south to visit!

"Don't you Tito....."

And @ Neverland, playing with Janet

purplesweat said:

You're telling CalhounSq to go away? Shame on you! She's awesome and she's right, that's a gross looking clip, gave me the ewwwwws too.

CalhounSq said:

The thing about that is no one questions Elvis' parenting skills or any of the other obvious junkie rock stars I don't see why people are being so critical of MJ.

StillDirrty said:

Amen.

U just watch Michael's kids turn out all better than what everyone thinks and it'll be their DAD to credit

Money-troubled doctor found lifeline in Jackson

By KEN RITTER and JUSTIN PRITCHARD (AP) – 7 hours ago

LOS ANGELES — Dr. Conrad Murray needed a big payday when he became Michael Jackson's personal physician last spring.

The Las Vegas cardiologist owed at least $780,000 for settlements against his business, outstanding mortgage payments on his house, delinquent student loans, child support and credit cards. And that doesn't include the $68,000 the distributor of an energy drink says Murray, a one-time business associate, owes for skipping out on payments.

Court records chronicling Murray's woes in Las Vegas, where authorities searched his home this week as part of their manslaughter investigation into Jackson's death, help explain why — beyond basking in a celebrity's aura — Murray might have jumped at the $150,000-a-month Jackson's promoter was prepared to pay him to keep the star healthy through a series of concerts in London.

Murray hooked on with Jackson in May, as his bleak financial picture threatened to worsen. He already was under court orders to pay more than $363,000 for equipment for his heart clinic and $71,000 in student loans dating to the 1980s, a judgment that hit in April. Two lawsuits claiming he owes $240,000 more for unpaid equipment are pending in Nevada courts.

And Murray had appeared unable or unwilling to settle more modest debts — a nearly $3,700 judgment for not paying child support and two recent credit card company claims totaling $2,600.

Murray's 5,268-square-foot home near the 18th hole of a golf course offers no refuge — he's in "pre-foreclosure" after failing to make payments on his $1.66 million loan, records show. He stopped paying the $15,000-per-month mortgage in December and could lose the home by November, said Mary Hunt, the foreclosure officer handling the case for Stewart Title company.

Authorities investigating Jackson's death at his rented Los Angeles mansion believe Murray gave the star a fatal dose of the anesthetic propofol to help him sleep, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the investigation is ongoing. Propofol is commonly used for surgeries and is not meant as a sleep agent or to be given in private homes. Because of its potency, only trained anesthesia professionals are supposed to administer it and patients are to be constantly monitored.

Police have not labeled Murray a suspect but have said in search warrants they are seeking evidence he committed manslaughter and prescribed drugs to "an addict," an apparent reference to Jackson.

Murray, 56, has not spoken publicly since Jackson's June 25 death. His lawyer, Ed Chernoff, has said the doctor did not prescribe anything that "should have" killed Jackson.

Neither Jackson nor AEG Live, the promoter for the London concerts, paid Murray for the two months the doctor worked for the pop star, according to Chernoff.

"Dr. Murray has lost the ability to make a living as a result of this investigation," he said. "His hope is he can forestall foreclosure until he can once again begin working as a doctor."

Murray's financial background could become an important part of the case if prosecutors file charges, said Rebecca Lonergan, a University of Southern California law professor and former federal prosecutor of health care fraud cases.

"It does potentially provide evidence of good motive for financial-based crimes, including prescribing when there is not a medical necessity," she said.

Murray's cresting financial woes fit into a history of money problems. He filed for bankruptcy in California in 1992 and had a string of tax liens from Sacramento and San Bernardino counties as well as Maricopa County, Ariz., between 1993 and 2003.

Several years ago, Murray branched out, striking up a deal with John Thomas, distributor of an energy drink called Pit Bull. Thomas said in 2005 and 2006 Murray had the rights to distribute the drink in Trinidad and Tobago, the Caribbean island nation where Murray lived and worked before coming to the United States in the 1980s to study medicine.

The drink never gained popularity there. Murray paid his bill for a first shipment, then didn't pay for three subsequent shipments, Thomas said.

Though Thomas said Murray owes him $68,000, he remained friendly with the doctor and spoke briefly with him days before Jackson's death, when he invited Murray to the opening of a mixed martial arts gym in Las Vegas. Murray told him he was out of town and wouldn't be able to attend.

"You always think you know a guy," Thomas said. "All the dirt is coming out now."

Ritter reported from Las Vegas. Contributing to this report were Associated Press reporters Juan Lozano in Houston, Thomas Watkins in Los Angeles and Tony Fraser in Port-of-Spain, Trinidad, and AP Researchers Judith Ausbel and Barbara Sambrinski in New York.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

dreamfactory313 said:

This is funny as %%%&*%%&*

Jul 31 2009 12:27 PM EDT
Michael Jackson Chef Says Tour Prep Was 'Killing' Him
Kai Chase said Jackson looked good, but rehearsals were stressful.

By Gil Kaufman

Investigators are still trying to piece together what happened in the days and hours before Michael Jackson died on June 25. But someone who witnessed the King of Pop's last days said she saw the toll the intense rehearsals for the singer's planned London comeback concerts were taking on the 50-year-old and that he said they were "killing" him.

on Friday (July 31) and said that Jackson looked good and healthy in his final days, but that the grueling lead-up to the planned July 13 launch of the 50-show This Is It series at London's O2 Arena was hard on his body.

"This tour was very important for him," Chase said. "He [took] me to the side and told me, 'You know, I really need you to make sure that I'm eating organic and healthy. I know you know what you're doing, and I know you know what to do. That's why you're here. They're killing me. They're killing me. I'm working so much. I'm rehearsing a lot.'" Jackson's father, Joseph Jackson, has claimed that the promoters of the concert series, AEG Live, were working his son too hard and that Jackson was not well enough to perform the string of shows.

Chase said Jackson was very excited about the shows and despite ample evidence that the singer was allegedly taking a number of prescription pain medications as well as the powerful anesthetic Propofol, she said she'd "never seen any evidence of drug use" at the rented Holmby Hills, California mansion Jackson was living in at the time of his death.

In light of revelations this week that police are investigation the 19 different aliases Jackson allegedly used to obtain prescription medications, Chase said she was "very shocked" to learn that her name was among

"This is all news to me. It's unbelievable. It's very shocking," Chase said. She also gave one of the first glimpses at what happened on the morning Jackson died, saying the singer's personal physician, cardiologist Dr. Conrad Murray, came downstairs 90 minutes later than usual that day to fetch the juices and granola that Jackson typically had every morning.

In an earlier interview with Chase said she got used to seeing Murray arrive at night and stay until after she left. When she would return the next morning, she described Murray coming down the steps carrying oxygen tanks, which officials believe might have been used in the administration of Propofol as a sleep aid for Jackson, who reportedly suffered from chronic insomnia. Murray is at the center of a manslaughter investigation and detectives are focusing on the use of the Propofol as a possible contributing factor in the singer's death.

Chase said that when she arrived for work on the morning of the 25th, she suspected Jackson was sleeping late and began preparing lunch when Murray came down the steps a little past noon and began screaming for someone to fetch Jackson's oldest son, Prince Michael.

"I walked into the hall and I saw the children there. The daughter [Paris] was crying. I saw paramedics running up the stairs," she said. Soon after, Chase, the children, their nanny and a housekeeper held hands and began to pray quietly for Jackson's safety. At 1:30, security guards told Chase and other staff members to leave the home because Jackson was being taken to the hospital.

Police served search warrants on Murray's offices and home in Las Vegas this week and carted away evidence related to what they said was the potentially illegal prescription of medications to a known "addict," seemingly referring to Jackson. Murray has not been named a suspect in the case, but police sources said earlier this week that he is the main focus of their manslaughter probe.

Timmy84 said:

Michael just didn't want to be working that hard, and he wasn't used to all the rehaersin'....dude hasn't toured in 12 years.

BUT ALL A THIS AINT NOTHIN BUT NOISE.

I'm focused on how Michael raised THREE good kids...no matter what any little snide TV commentator sez.

Timmy84 said:

that is so sad. why would murray fetch the children to see their father dead like that?

jamgirl said:

I'm kinda amused that MJ started rehearsing a little later than what I figured he would. Did AEG and 'em just allow him to lay low until May? I think they started rehearsing in May.

Timmy84 said:

If I'm following Kai correctly...Michael was fine up to when she left in early May, when she came back on June 2nd, Mike looked beat and run down....so she started gettin him back eating and whatnot.

In MAY was when all shit hit the proverbial fan.

DesireeNevermind said:

Apparently Prince didn't run all the way up the stairs, she just met the Doctor on the stairs and ran back down to the rest of the siblings.

jamgirl said:

That's why I'm trying to understand the time frame of this... if he started rehearsing (and fasting) in May, it'll make sense as to why MJ felt drained out days prior to his death. It could be that he worked himself too hard as I originally thought when I heard he had died.
[Edited 7/31/09 10:19am]
[Edited 7/31/09 10:19am]

Timmy84 said:

Yup. Those final three weeks in may....

When Kai came back, Mike was back on Diprivan, but she was feeding him at least and he wanted her to come to London.

I can't wait for them kids to reach of age and promote thier daddy's legacy

Timmy84 said:

That's what I thought as well, that's y when i was watching Private Home Movies last night Michael said "I go through HELL touring" I go through HELL!

IV drip and shit....I'd call that hell

jamgirl said:

Yep, that can only explain how he died so suddenly if he was unable to come to with the Diprivan even if he was ailing. It's strange. It's probably a mixture of sickness, health concerns, doctor's negligence and too much work too soon that led to what happened to MJ but that's only guesses.

"Were the children praying?" Bush asked. "Were they listening? Were they crying?"

"They were praying, they were crying and we were praying out loud," Chase said. "Prince joined in prayer, and Paris, she's crying and [saying] 'Yes, father, God. Yes, Jesus.' We were praying that the well-being, the safety of this man is OK. This is their dad."



http://www.nbcchicago.com...37712.html

jamgirl said:

Exactly. I was thinking this because they indicated he was doing all that shit during the HIStory tour. I didn't understand back then but now I'm beginning to understand the situation and what MJ sometimes had to go through just to get ready for a tour!

Timmy84 said:

Or maybe his heart just stopped. It gave out. God said it was time.