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Reply #480 posted 07/30/09 11:27pm

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Anderson Cooper had a valid question if MJ had over 20 different alias to get prescription drugs then yes how good of a father he was is obviously going to be asked. Using his own son as an alias just seems wrong on many levels. N of course everyone on TEAM MJ are going to be all bout how great of a dad he was, it helps to sweep the pedo charges against him under the rug. "Oh MJ was such a caring father to those young kids he could never touch a kid like that."

Team MJ knows what it needs to do to make coin, the spin is a lonely genius that needed help and real friends. Ignore the fact that he enabled himself and only let other enablers around him. confused
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Reply #481 posted 07/30/09 11:48pm

Timmy84

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kibbles said:



everyone who really knew mj says he was a good father. ac doesn't know shit from shinola about the situation, but he's got air time to fill so he and toobin can pop off about their contempt for mj. besides, his ratings are in the toilet, no one is watching him anyway.

that nurse who's been making the rounds says he wasn't an addict. the chef as well did not notice any drug induced stupors. tom mesereau has stated that he was around mj for months, and he was lucid and articulate. some have said the prelim results of his organs did not indicate drug damage; don't know how true this is. i tend to believe that if he was that much of an addict, something would have shown up and they would have declared his death an overdose, and murray would have been home free by now.


I think the reason for the delay of the autopsy is because the cause of death is not clear cut. I do however believe Michael did have some kind of drug independency. But I also believe there were other contributory factors to his death like underlining health issues such as Lupus.


I forgot about all of that. hmmm
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Reply #482 posted 07/31/09 12:09am

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Timmy84 said:

whatsgoingon said:



I think the reason for the delay of the autopsy is because the cause of death is not clear cut. I do however believe Michael did have some kind of drug independency. But I also believe there were other contributory factors to his death like underlining health issues such as Lupus.


I forgot about all of that. hmmm


I truely believe if it were a straight forward drug overdose they would have released the results. The authorities and MJ were not exactly the best of friends, there was a reason why the family did their own private autopsy. From the beginning the stories were conflicting, this is definitely not as straight forward as people like to think.
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Reply #483 posted 07/31/09 12:15am

Timmy84

whatsgoingon said:

Timmy84 said:



I forgot about all of that. hmmm


I truely believe if it were a straight forward drug overdose they would have released the results. The authorities and MJ were not exactly the best of friends, there was a reason why the family did their own private autopsy. From the beginning the stories were conflicting, this is definitely not as straight forward as people like to think.


Yeah I'm beginning to see that though I knew MJ and the authorities haven't always been the best of friends as you said. confused
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Reply #484 posted 07/31/09 12:16am

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"we make our heroes in America only to destroy them"
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Reply #485 posted 07/31/09 12:42am

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lazycrockett said:

Anderson Cooper had a valid question if MJ had over 20 different alias to get prescription drugs then yes how good of a father he was is obviously going to be asked. Using his own son as an alias just seems wrong on many levels. N of course everyone on TEAM MJ are going to be all bout how great of a dad he was, it helps to sweep the pedo charges against him under the rug. "Oh MJ was such a caring father to those young kids he could never touch a kid like that."

Team MJ knows what it needs to do to make coin, the spin is a lonely genius that needed help and real friends. Ignore the fact that he enabled himself and only let other enablers around him. confused

But it's not just "team MJ" that has said how great the kids are and how great a father he is. Everybody who has come into contact with them has said that.
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Reply #486 posted 07/31/09 12:43am

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i wonder if the jacksons will reveal their private autopsy. i think they've had theirs for awhile. didn't some "insider" say it matched the coroner's autopsy. i hope it comes out soon, the last thing we need is anothe FULL week of speculations... the longer the drag this out the more BULL we have to hear that is irrelevant like a doll on michael's bed or notes on his wall or that that dumb ass doctor was accused of being a wife beater.

that alias thing is a little sketchy to me, i doubt michael would use his SONS name i mean c'min the point of making up a name is so no one knows who u are so why would he use prince jackson.

i don't trust the LAPD, they better not screw this investigation up.


last night michael's chef was on Larry King Live...anyone catch it, i saw it she seems nice and she said michael ATE food so we can put to rest those anorexic/ eating disorder rumors
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Reply #487 posted 07/31/09 12:45am

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lazycrockett said:

Anderson Cooper had a valid question if MJ had over 20 different alias to get prescription drugs then yes how good of a father he was is obviously going to be asked. Using his own son as an alias just seems wrong on many levels. N of course everyone on TEAM MJ are going to be all bout how great of a dad he was, it helps to sweep the pedo charges against him under the rug. "Oh MJ was such a caring father to those young kids he could never touch a kid like that."

Team MJ knows what it needs to do to make coin, the spin is a lonely genius that needed help and real friends. Ignore the fact that he enabled himself and only let other enablers around him. confused

But it's not just "team MJ" that has said how great the kids are and how great a father he is. Everybody who has come into contact with them has said that.
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Reply #488 posted 07/31/09 12:45am

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Here´s the video without the interview with short little parts that were cut out.

[Edited 7/31/09 1:24am]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #489 posted 07/31/09 12:55am

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This week in Montreal. smile

That was so cute and the policaman dancing... lol
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #490 posted 07/31/09 1:16am

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dag said:

dreamfactory313 said:


This week in Montreal. smile

That was so cute and the policaman dancing... lol


That was great, seeing stuff like that cheers me up, but get's me emotional too.
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Reply #491 posted 07/31/09 1:26am

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Reply #492 posted 07/31/09 1:32am

july



Bless you Michael. May time keep you. I never will forget you.

Heal your children. May they love you, but miss you less.

You are alive. You live. Your spirit lives in hearts forever.

May peace be found to all hurting. Comfort to all who cared for him

Personally, Musically. In everyway. For all around the world.

Goodbye Sweet Prince.

I love you, Michael Jackson.

Forever.
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Reply #493 posted 07/31/09 1:41am

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dag said:

dreamfactory313 said:


This week in Montreal. smile

That was so cute and the policaman dancing... lol

biggrin that made me smile and then cry, it's so sweet
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Reply #494 posted 07/31/09 1:52am

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I forgot if I posted this

"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #495 posted 07/31/09 2:51am

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utopia7 said:

I am truly disappointed in Anderson Cooper for suggesting Michael was a bad parent, because of the prescription drugs... the children were always in tip top shape there are such things as functioning addictions if this is the case.The harm done was to himself NOT those kids ! they were schooled clothed fed and loved what more could he do ?

So you would excuse a regular person who was an addict w/ kids that young too? Or is it only okay b/c it's MJ? neutral

What more could he do? He could be present for his kids, not high & (sad to say) not dead exclaim

A break... gimme one!


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[Edited 7/31/09 2:54am]
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #496 posted 07/31/09 2:51am

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I forgot if I posted this




If anyone who hasn't read that book before, i suggest you do. It's incredible. One of my all time fav. books.
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Reply #497 posted 07/31/09 2:58am

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random gif



eek... sexy ....flower
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Reply #498 posted 07/31/09 3:20am

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mimi07 said:

random gif



eek... sexy ....flower

Disturbing in more ways that 1...
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #499 posted 07/31/09 5:02am

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CalhounSq said:

utopia7 said:

I am truly disappointed in Anderson Cooper for suggesting Michael was a bad parent, because of the prescription drugs... the children were always in tip top shape there are such things as functioning addictions if this is the case.The harm done was to himself NOT those kids ! they were schooled clothed fed and loved what more could he do ?

So you would excuse a regular person who was an addict w/ kids that young too? Or is it only okay b/c it's MJ? neutral

What more could he do? He could be present for his kids, not high & (sad to say) not dead exclaim

A break... gimme one!
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[Edited 7/31/09 2:54am]


unfortunately, people "excuse" their own drug use when the prescripts are coming from a doctor. And don't forget- it starts off as being legit- but because the pain continues-physically and emotionally- it turns into addiction- especially if you go thru a tough time in life.

Does it make you a bad parent? No. Because you are "coping" and "handling" your situation, your pain with the drugs- when it gets ugly is when you can't get your hands on the medication you "need".

Even doctors are addicts- the worse ones- hate to use a fictitional character- but look at House.

Rehab Rehab Rehab

and shame to the high heavens on those people closest to him who let it continue- especially the ones talking about the worked for him and witnessed him being high and like a zombie- shame shame shame on his nanny, his make-up artist Karen, his body guards, doctors, family, etc....- he should have been in rehab again and their is no excuse Katherine (her heart is probably the heaviest) and Joe- there is no exxcuse Randy and Janet, there is no excuse Tito- intervention should have happened. They are the ones who will live with this for the rest of their lives,
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Reply #500 posted 07/31/09 5:16am

dag

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Evvy said:

CalhounSq said:


So you would excuse a regular person who was an addict w/ kids that young too? Or is it only okay b/c it's MJ? neutral

What more could he do? He could be present for his kids, not high & (sad to say) not dead exclaim

A break... gimme one!
.
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unfortunately, people "excuse" their own drug use when the prescripts are coming from a doctor. And don't forget- it starts off as being legit- but because the pain continues-physically and emotionally- it turns into addiction- especially if you go thru a tough time in life.

Does it make you a bad parent? No. Because you are "coping" and "handling" your situation, your pain with the drugs- when it gets ugly is when you can't get your hands on the medication you "need".

Even doctors are addicts- the worse ones- hate to use a fictitional character- but look at House.

Rehab Rehab Rehab

and shame to the high heavens on those people closest to him who let it continue- especially the ones talking about the worked for him and witnessed him being high and like a zombie- shame shame shame on his nanny, his make-up artist Karen, his body guards, doctors, family, etc....- he should have been in rehab again and their is no excuse Katherine (her heart is probably the heaviest) and Joe- there is no exxcuse Randy and Janet, there is no excuse Tito- intervention should have happened. They are the ones who will live with this for the rest of their lives,

It´s hard to say how "high" he was or not. Some say he seemed OK to them, so say he didn´t. I really don´t know what to make of the statements myself. But it is obvious that Mike spent time with his kids, that they loved him and he loved them. There are many people who don´t do drugs and don´t spend their time with the kids anyway. So I think he was a good father and it´s sad that it ended the way it did. I personally am waiting for the autopsy results to come to a conclusions on his alleged drug abuse and death.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #501 posted 07/31/09 6:05am

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OMG, another unseen part. What a rarity. I love it so much.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #502 posted 07/31/09 6:10am

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CalhounSq said:

mimi07 said:

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eek... sexy ....flower

Disturbing in more ways that 1...


Go away.
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Reply #503 posted 07/31/09 6:55am

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Michael Jackson Singing Doobie Brothers Minute By Minute & What a Fool Believes to Elizabeth Taylor on the phone


http://www.youtube.com/wa...pXK19Ik9z0
[Edited 7/31/09 6:57am]
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Reply #504 posted 07/31/09 6:57am

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Just pulled out Rebbie Jackson's album to hear her take on Fly Away (with MJ on backing vocals) and Centipede (classic 1980s MJ composed track - and again with MJ on vocals).

Anyone aware of how many songs he wrote for other artists?

I have these 2 for Reebie.
Muscles for Diana Ross
Eaten Alive for Diana Ross

but there must be more I just can't recall at the moment....

Anyone, anyone... beuller, beuller?

Swa
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Reply #505 posted 07/31/09 6:58am

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hey guys i just think money can make people blind and without any compassion. This doc had a urgent need of money... he just accepted everything from an addict!ky
anyway mmm i'sorry i discovered Jackson so late confused
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Reply #506 posted 07/31/09 6:58am

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Mike being cute on this one.


[Edited 7/31/09 7:07am]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #507 posted 07/31/09 7:03am

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aerdna25 said:

Michael Jackson Singing Doobie Brothers Minute By Minute & What a Fool Believes to Elizabeth Taylor on the phone


http://www.youtube.com/wa...pXK19Ik9z0
[Edited 7/31/09 6:57am]

Thanks so much for this. This is soo cute.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #508 posted 07/31/09 7:06am

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aerdna25 said:

Michael Jackson Singing Doobie Brothers Minute By Minute & What a Fool Believes to Elizabeth Taylor on the phone


http://www.youtube.com/wa...pXK19Ik9z0
[Edited 7/31/09 6:57am]

This is a slap to some people faces who have been on a mission to convince other people that MJ completely Lost his Voice, There he is in the video sings from the heart.
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #509 posted 07/31/09 7:07am

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Timmy84 said:

whatsgoingon said:



I think the reason for the delay of the autopsy is because the cause of death is not clear cut. I do however believe Michael did have some kind of drug independency. But I also believe there were other contributory factors to his death like underlining health issues such as Lupus.


I forgot about all of that. hmmm


But did MJ suffer from Systematic Lupus? That's the question we don't know.

He suffered from the lupus which affected his skin.
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