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Reply #330 posted 07/30/09 6:58am

suga10

Jackson Doctor Sketchy past

http://www.eonline.com/ub..._past.html
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Reply #331 posted 07/30/09 7:01am

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Primetime has said that Dr. Murray catered to the poorest population in Houston and they interviwed some people who know him. They say they are going after Murray because he's black.

lol lol lol

If those morons knew that Dipravin would make someone stop breathing for good after 10 seconds. They shouldn't be saying shit.
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Reply #332 posted 07/30/09 7:23am

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Jackson family attorney Londell McMillan expects to make an announcement today about the role Debbie Rowe will play in the lives of Prince Michael and Paris-Michael.

Lawyer: Announcement Pending on Jackson Custody
July 30, 2009


The attorney for Michael Jackson's mother says an announcement is imminent on a custody deal regarding the pop icon's two oldest children, but stopped short of saying an agreement had been reached.

L. Londell McMillan said in an interview with The Associated Press that word of an agreement between Katherine Jackson and Deborah Rowe, the biological mother of Prince Michael, 12, and Paris-Michael, 10, would come sometime Thursday.

McMillan has previously said any agreement will be in the best interest of Jackson's children. He declined to go into specifics and would not address reports about what kind of visitation Rowe would get, if any.

E-mail messages sent to Rowe's attorney seeking comment Thursday were not immediately returned.

Michael Jackson, who died June 25 at 50, was the sole parent to his three children. He was married to Rowe, but both had described the relationship as borne out of a friendship and said that Rowe had given birth to his two oldest children as a "gift" to Jackson. They divorced after Paris-Michael was born and Rowe was largely absent in her children's lives. His third child, 7-year-old Prince Michael II, known as Blanket, was born to a surrogate and the mother's identity has never been revealed.

In Jackson's will, he expressed his desire to have his mother take care of his children. But after he died, Rowe expressed interest in raising not only her two children, but Blanket as well. In a phone interview with television station KNBC, she also said she would seek a restraining order against Joe Jackson, Michael's father; Michael Jackson had a complicated relationship with him and often spoke of beatings at the hands of his father.

After Mrs. Jackson, 79, was named by a court as the children's temporary guardian, Rowe won a delay in a guardianship hearing while she decided whether to seek custody. Other hearings were delayed at the request of both parties, and McMillan had described the negotiations between both sides as very cordial.

While McMillan would not discuss details of any agreement, he did say no money exchanged hands. Rowe has taken legal action and demanded retractions as other reports have claimed that she was seeking money from the Jacksons in exchange for dropping any attempt at custody of the children.

Michael Jackson gave Rowe a financial settlement after they divorced in 2000 and she relinquished her parental rights. But they were reinstated by a judge in 2005 after Rowe went to court over the children. The custody dispute was settled in 2006. Terms were not disclosed. Jackson retained primary custody of the children.

All three children have been living with Katherine Jackson since their father's death, where they have been surrounded by their aunts, uncles and cousins.

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Reply #333 posted 07/30/09 7:40am

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http://www.hollyscoop.com...21059.aspx



Dr. Conrad is currently the center of the investigation involving the death of Michael Jackson, but this isn’t the first time he’s been in trouble with the law.

Radar has learned that Murray has been sentenced to jail on two different occasions. And one of them was just a couple months ago!

According to the report, Murray was sentenced to jail on April 29th, 2009 for failing to pay child support. He was also sentenced in 2007 for non-payment of child support in connection with a son he fathered
in California with a woman named Nenita Malibiran. On both occasions, the doctor was able to get out of doing any time by paying up.

A further investigation has proven that Murray has fathered many children outside of his (second) marriage. Court records show that between 1999 to 2007, Murray did not make any child support payments to his son with Malibiran.

And even though Murray is still married to his second wife Blanche, sources say he’s been acting like a single man. The source, Maggie Goldstein told a reporter: "I was one of 10 models and promotions girls hired by Conrad Murray to fly to a Trinidad and Tobago resort in 2005 to publicize a new energy drink, Pit Bull, that Murray was producing with a partner.

"Conrad had a ball. He was up into the early hours, drinking, having fun and posing bare-chested with the girls. He brought along a girlfriend, Bridget, a black singer from Los Angeles. I was shocked to later find out he was married."

Sounds like Dr. Conrad Murray has some skeletons in his closet—not only having to do with the Michael Jackson investigation, but in his personal life as well!

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Reply #334 posted 07/30/09 8:21am

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FRANKLY SPEAKING
An exclusive HITS interview with Frank DiLeo

July 30, 2009

Industry vet Frank DiLeo, who was the manager of Michael Jackson from 1984 through 1989, returned to the fold to help guide the superstar through his “This Is It” concerts and presumably beyond, but it was not to be. Here, the industry veteran shares his thoughts with HITS’ own ambulance-chasing Roy Trakin.

This is like Godfather III… Just when you thought you were out, they pull you back in. How did you get involved with Michael again?
Michael first called me a couple of years ago, after he came back from Bahrain, then was in Ireland and Vegas for a while. We chitchatted, he called again and we started communicating about film projects. There were a couple of scripts we wanted to develop and produce. Then he got involved in this concert deal. He called me in March and said, “Frank, I need someone with a little bit of experience. Would you like to manage me again and take care of all this stuff?” And I said, “Yeah, sure.” By the time I came in, everything was signed. Dr. Thome Thome—who is someone I don’t want to talk about in this interview—had miscalculated the scheduling on the dates, which is something I had to take care of, because Michael didn’t want to perform more than twice a week.

Was Michael aware that he was signing for up to 50 individual shows?
Absolutely. I read the contract. I know what the minimum amount of dates were, as well as the maximum number of dates. That contract was read to Michael by three different lawyers, as well as Dr. Thome. He wanted to beat Prince’s record and be in the Guinness Book of World Records. He was the one who picked the number 50. There were enough ticket sales to do 85 shows, but he was zeroed in on 50. That’s what he wanted and that’s what happened. Dr. Thome had him doing three or four shows a week, though. I was adjusting and moving dates to try to make it more palatable for Michael to do.

What had you been doing since managing Michael the first time?
I was in New York with a management company in the ’90s. I retired for a while and spent some time with my son and daughter, seeing them through college. My kids didn’t get a lot of time with me growing up because I was on tour so much, so I felt I owed them that. And that lasted seven years. I did a lot of consulting work. I owned a piece of Tribeca Grill with Robert DeNiro, which did very well. In 2004 I lost my eyesight, and it’s taken six operations to enable me to see. I still have limited vision. It was a diabetic condition that separated the retina. I lost complete sight in one eye and 80% in the other eye. It took two years for them to figure that out. There’s a lot of scar tissue still, and I don’t see well in light. I have to wear dark glasses all the time. I have to move my head to see certain letters because I have a permanent “V” in my vision.

You sat in on most of the rehearsals.
Every single one. He was in good condition. He was working out with Lou Ferrigno. He was dancing over three hours every day after his workout. He was prepared. A lot of times he would watch and direct. These are songs he’s sung his whole life. He didn’t have to go full out every day. The last couple of weeks, he stepped it up. On the night before he died, when he came down after doing 10 or 11 songs, Kenny Ortega was at the bottom of the stairs, we all hugged and Michael put his arm around us and we around him, to walk him to his dressing room. And he said, “Frank, I’m ready. I’m doing all 50 shows. Don’t even think that I’m not.” We talked about possibly doing stadiums after the 50. He said, “Frank, I’ve never been happier. Since you’ve been back, things are going well. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. We did it once. This is our time to do it again.” And that was the last time I saw him alive.

People were saying Michael was down to 110 pounds and wasn’t in good physical shape.
No, that’s all bullish. He was not down to 110 pounds. He was around 140. At his maximum, he was maybe 155.

You’re telling me this is a very confident guy, ready to take on this challenge.
He knew he was 50 and that the other dancers were young. He built his stamina up to the point where he knew he could do it. Michael’s a competitive guy. I don’t care whether you’re five years old or 40, you’re not going to out-dance Michael Jackson. He’s gonna put it to you sooner or later. And he worked himself up to that.

How did you originally hear about Michael falling ill?
A fan called and said there was an ambulance in front of Michael’s house. I had just sat down to lunch. I called Michael’s assistant and asked what was going on, and I was told there was something wrong and he was on his way over there. So I got in my car and drove over. When I got to the gate, they told me everyone had already left. I turned around and went to UCLA Medical Center, and while I was in the car, Katherine called and I told her she should meet us at the hospital. So we went in the back, and they were working on him in the room. So I thought he was going to be OK. Then the nurse came out, she looked at me and I looked at her… I almost fainted. The look told me it was over, but they would keep working on him until his mother arrived. Meanwhile, the kids were all there, in another room. I had to go in with a doctor and a social worker to tell them what happened. And those are two things I never, ever want to do again. Excuse me a minute, I might cry here. Let me get a sip of water.

What was the children’s reaction?
Exactly what you think it would be: [they] ran up to me, grabbed me, crying and screaming. Finally, Jermaine and LaToya showed up, then Randy… And a social worker started talking to all of them. Meanwhile, I was dealing with the press, trying to keep everybody out, and set up some security. At that point, they said the kids wanted to see their dad. So they moved Michael into a room and covered him. I went in first, got a chance to hug him, kiss him and say goodbye, and 20 minutes later, the kids and the rest of the family got to do the same thing. Everybody forgets. Michael wasn’t just a client to me; he was my friend. I always managed him from that basis. We were friends in the ’80s, and we were friends after he fired me. We were always friends.

Were you aware that Michael had a prescription drug problem?
I didn’t know. I realize it’s come out that he did go to rehab. I asked him in March about it, and he got very indignant. He said, “Frank, do you think I would do something that would jeopardize my kids and leave them alone? Don’t be ridiculous.” So what do you say? Do addicts ever admit they’re doing drugs? No. So, I got to take the man’s word. He’s 50 years old. How far could I push him? I never heard of the stuff he supposedly took [propofol]. When I heard about that on TV, I couldn’t believe it.

Do you have any opinion about the two doctors under investigation, Dr. Arnold Klein and Dr. Conrad Murray?
Michael’s gone to Dr. Klein for years. I don’t know how Michael met Dr. Murray. Michael brought him up to me when he mentioned that part of his contract required AEG to hire him a doctor to be with him in London, and he specified he wanted Dr. Murray, claiming he was his family doctor. The original price he asked for was outrageous. I told Michael I could buy him a whole hospital for that kind of money.

The press reports said AEG was paying him $150k a month.
That’s what I OK’d. What he originally asked for was astronomical. AEG did not hire the doctor. That was Michael’s doctor for months. AEG just advanced him the payment, which was part of the budget. I had one meeting with him, making sure Michael had the right vitamins, what kind of smoothies to make, should it be G2 or Gatorade after the show? He told us he was a cardiologist, and I said, “Michael, this is perfect. Because I’ve already had three heart attacks and I have seven stents in my heart. If I drop over in London, this guy’s right there.”

Dr. Murray was the last man to see Michael Jackson alive.
He was, yes. Nobody knows what happened in that room. We have to wait for the toxicology and the autopsy. I do know the preliminary autopsy said Michael’s organs were in good shape, his liver was good, his heart was strong. They said he did not have a heart attack. It had to be some sort of allergic reaction or something that didn’t blend right. There was some sort of reaction.

Where does that leave you at this point?
There are a few things that have to get cleared up. I have to make sure the estate understands some of the things that I know. I’ve been appointed to the board of Sony/ATV Music Publishing. So I have a role to play there. Michael wrote the letter getting me appointed. After they removed Dr. Thome, they added myself and Joel Katz.

Does it sadden you to see how the family’s inner disagreements are now being aired in public?
It’s sad to the point that there’s a lot of misinformation. The family didn’t know what was going on. They didn’t see Michael every day like I did. He was the closest to his mother and his kids. But I gave him that personal space to be with his family. Some of them are talking about things I don’t think they have the knowledge to talk about. That’s just emotion. They have to face the facts and make some decisions.

What was Michael’s relationship like with his father?
Joe was his father, and that’s what Michael wanted. He didn’t want to know about any business. He just wanted him to be his father. He wanted to be loved as a son, not a commodity.

Did he ever get that?
I don’t know. Watch the Larry King interview with Joe Jackson and you make that determination. It was a train wreck.

You must still be in a state of shock.
Michael created one of the greatest shows ever, a $27 million production. I went through it with him every day. It’s sad that people will never get to see that. But the key thing here is that I lost my friend. That’s what matters to me. All this other stuff is what it is.

Where is your nickname “Tookie” come from?
That’s derived from the name “Tookie.” The chief of police in Pittsburgh came to see my dad when I was born and called me that. Then it became “Tukkie” when I met my wife. Everybody I know from childhood calls me “Tookie.” For everybody after I met my wife, it’s “Tukkie.” We’ve been married for 32 years. I’m the only guy in the record business who’s never had to go to rehab or get a divorce.


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Reply #335 posted 07/30/09 8:24am

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bboy87 said:

FRANKLY SPEAKING
An exclusive HITS interview with Frank DiLeo

July 30, 2009

Industry vet Frank DiLeo, who was the manager of Michael Jackson from 1984 through 1989, returned to the fold to help guide the superstar through his “This Is It” concerts and presumably beyond, but it was not to be. Here, the industry veteran shares his thoughts with HITS’ own ambulance-chasing Roy Trakin.

This is like Godfather III… Just when you thought you were out, they pull you back in. How did you get involved with Michael again?
Michael first called me a couple of years ago, after he came back from Bahrain, then was in Ireland and Vegas for a while. We chitchatted, he called again and we started communicating about film projects. There were a couple of scripts we wanted to develop and produce. Then he got involved in this concert deal. He called me in March and said, “Frank, I need someone with a little bit of experience. Would you like to manage me again and take care of all this stuff?” And I said, “Yeah, sure.” By the time I came in, everything was signed. Dr. Thome Thome—who is someone I don’t want to talk about in this interview—had miscalculated the scheduling on the dates, which is something I had to take care of, because Michael didn’t want to perform more than twice a week.

Was Michael aware that he was signing for up to 50 individual shows?
Absolutely. I read the contract. I know what the minimum amount of dates were, as well as the maximum number of dates. That contract was read to Michael by three different lawyers, as well as Dr. Thome. He wanted to beat Prince’s record and be in the Guinness Book of World Records. He was the one who picked the number 50. There were enough ticket sales to do 85 shows, but he was zeroed in on 50. That’s what he wanted and that’s what happened. Dr. Thome had him doing three or four shows a week, though. I was adjusting and moving dates to try to make it more palatable for Michael to do.

What had you been doing since managing Michael the first time?
I was in New York with a management company in the ’90s. I retired for a while and spent some time with my son and daughter, seeing them through college. My kids didn’t get a lot of time with me growing up because I was on tour so much, so I felt I owed them that. And that lasted seven years. I did a lot of consulting work. I owned a piece of Tribeca Grill with Robert DeNiro, which did very well. In 2004 I lost my eyesight, and it’s taken six operations to enable me to see. I still have limited vision. It was a diabetic condition that separated the retina. I lost complete sight in one eye and 80% in the other eye. It took two years for them to figure that out. There’s a lot of scar tissue still, and I don’t see well in light. I have to wear dark glasses all the time. I have to move my head to see certain letters because I have a permanent “V” in my vision.

You sat in on most of the rehearsals.
Every single one. He was in good condition. He was working out with Lou Ferrigno. He was dancing over three hours every day after his workout. He was prepared. A lot of times he would watch and direct. These are songs he’s sung his whole life. He didn’t have to go full out every day. The last couple of weeks, he stepped it up. On the night before he died, when he came down after doing 10 or 11 songs, Kenny Ortega was at the bottom of the stairs, we all hugged and Michael put his arm around us and we around him, to walk him to his dressing room. And he said, “Frank, I’m ready. I’m doing all 50 shows. Don’t even think that I’m not.” We talked about possibly doing stadiums after the 50. He said, “Frank, I’ve never been happier. Since you’ve been back, things are going well. I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. We did it once. This is our time to do it again.” And that was the last time I saw him alive.

People were saying Michael was down to 110 pounds and wasn’t in good physical shape.
No, that’s all bullish. He was not down to 110 pounds. He was around 140. At his maximum, he was maybe 155.

You’re telling me this is a very confident guy, ready to take on this challenge.
He knew he was 50 and that the other dancers were young. He built his stamina up to the point where he knew he could do it. Michael’s a competitive guy. I don’t care whether you’re five years old or 40, you’re not going to out-dance Michael Jackson. He’s gonna put it to you sooner or later. And he worked himself up to that.

How did you originally hear about Michael falling ill?
A fan called and said there was an ambulance in front of Michael’s house. I had just sat down to lunch. I called Michael’s assistant and asked what was going on, and I was told there was something wrong and he was on his way over there. So I got in my car and drove over. When I got to the gate, they told me everyone had already left. I turned around and went to UCLA Medical Center, and while I was in the car, Katherine called and I told her she should meet us at the hospital. So we went in the back, and they were working on him in the room. So I thought he was going to be OK. Then the nurse came out, she looked at me and I looked at her… I almost fainted. The look told me it was over, but they would keep working on him until his mother arrived. Meanwhile, the kids were all there, in another room. I had to go in with a doctor and a social worker to tell them what happened. And those are two things I never, ever want to do again. Excuse me a minute, I might cry here. Let me get a sip of water.

What was the children’s reaction?
Exactly what you think it would be: [they] ran up to me, grabbed me, crying and screaming. Finally, Jermaine and LaToya showed up, then Randy… And a social worker started talking to all of them. Meanwhile, I was dealing with the press, trying to keep everybody out, and set up some security. At that point, they said the kids wanted to see their dad. So they moved Michael into a room and covered him. I went in first, got a chance to hug him, kiss him and say goodbye, and 20 minutes later, the kids and the rest of the family got to do the same thing. Everybody forgets. Michael wasn’t just a client to me; he was my friend. I always managed him from that basis. We were friends in the ’80s, and we were friends after he fired me. We were always friends.

Were you aware that Michael had a prescription drug problem?
I didn’t know. I realize it’s come out that he did go to rehab. I asked him in March about it, and he got very indignant. He said, “Frank, do you think I would do something that would jeopardize my kids and leave them alone? Don’t be ridiculous.” So what do you say? Do addicts ever admit they’re doing drugs? No. So, I got to take the man’s word. He’s 50 years old. How far could I push him? I never heard of the stuff he supposedly took [propofol]. When I heard about that on TV, I couldn’t believe it.

Do you have any opinion about the two doctors under investigation, Dr. Arnold Klein and Dr. Conrad Murray?
Michael’s gone to Dr. Klein for years. I don’t know how Michael met Dr. Murray. Michael brought him up to me when he mentioned that part of his contract required AEG to hire him a doctor to be with him in London, and he specified he wanted Dr. Murray, claiming he was his family doctor. The original price he asked for was outrageous. I told Michael I could buy him a whole hospital for that kind of money.

The press reports said AEG was paying him $150k a month.
That’s what I OK’d. What he originally asked for was astronomical. AEG did not hire the doctor. That was Michael’s doctor for months. AEG just advanced him the payment, which was part of the budget. I had one meeting with him, making sure Michael had the right vitamins, what kind of smoothies to make, should it be G2 or Gatorade after the show? He told us he was a cardiologist, and I said, “Michael, this is perfect. Because I’ve already had three heart attacks and I have seven stents in my heart. If I drop over in London, this guy’s right there.”

Dr. Murray was the last man to see Michael Jackson alive.
He was, yes. Nobody knows what happened in that room. We have to wait for the toxicology and the autopsy. I do know the preliminary autopsy said Michael’s organs were in good shape, his liver was good, his heart was strong. They said he did not have a heart attack. It had to be some sort of allergic reaction or something that didn’t blend right. There was some sort of reaction.

Where does that leave you at this point?
There are a few things that have to get cleared up. I have to make sure the estate understands some of the things that I know. I’ve been appointed to the board of Sony/ATV Music Publishing. So I have a role to play there. Michael wrote the letter getting me appointed. After they removed Dr. Thome, they added myself and Joel Katz.

Does it sadden you to see how the family’s inner disagreements are now being aired in public?
It’s sad to the point that there’s a lot of misinformation. The family didn’t know what was going on. They didn’t see Michael every day like I did. He was the closest to his mother and his kids. But I gave him that personal space to be with his family. Some of them are talking about things I don’t think they have the knowledge to talk about. That’s just emotion. They have to face the facts and make some decisions.

What was Michael’s relationship like with his father?
Joe was his father, and that’s what Michael wanted. He didn’t want to know about any business. He just wanted him to be his father. He wanted to be loved as a son, not a commodity.

Did he ever get that?
I don’t know. Watch the Larry King interview with Joe Jackson and you make that determination. It was a train wreck.

You must still be in a state of shock.
Michael created one of the greatest shows ever, a $27 million production. I went through it with him every day. It’s sad that people will never get to see that. But the key thing here is that I lost my friend. That’s what matters to me. All this other stuff is what it is.

Where is your nickname “Tookie” come from?
That’s derived from the name “Tookie.” The chief of police in Pittsburgh came to see my dad when I was born and called me that. Then it became “Tukkie” when I met my wife. Everybody I know from childhood calls me “Tookie.” For everybody after I met my wife, it’s “Tukkie.” We’ve been married for 32 years. I’m the only guy in the record business who’s never had to go to rehab or get a divorce.


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Don't trust everything Frank is saying. There's no way Michael was weighing 140 lbs, and was in good shape or form to perform 50 shows.

And considering he's on AEG's payroll, he has a conflict of interest.
[Edited 7/30/09 8:31am]
[Edited 7/30/09 8:34am]
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Reply #336 posted 07/30/09 8:49am

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I wonder what happened to her?
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Reply #337 posted 07/30/09 8:54am

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nothing about any of it adds up. even the funeral and his sons chewing gum and blowing bubbles during the whole thing and his daughter seemingly coached to fake cry at the finale.
none of it seems real.
it all appears staged. the doctors, the fitness guru. a giant hoax.
a hoax that could only be pulled off from the hysteria of the media and the fans.
and those were a shoo in to take the ball and run with it.






Lana drew a picture
in school 2day
One that made her mother cry
A picture of a woman with a drink in her hand

Standing by a child with no eyes
Washington reaction based upon revenge
Babies blown 2 kingdom come

Damn the logic
Cartoon characters look better when they're on the run
Danny dropped the dime on his girlfriend

He said he didn't wanna go 2 jail alone
The seed lives in the same mind

With the thought that says we all should be stoned
And people lookin' 4 angels in the sky

Whenever they're broken-hearted
Love is grown, seeds are sown
A fire don't burn unless it's started
Did U ever feel that life was like lookin' 4 a penny
In a large room with no light?
A sophisticated man reduced 2 company in no-win situations
That aren't right
Everytime U wake up there's a little motherfucker
Talkin' big stuff in your face (Are U happy?)
U only get the kind of people that open their mouth
just 2 swap feet
Welcome 2 the rat race
Did U ever feel that life was like lookin' 4 a penny
In a large room with no light?
A sophisticated man reduced 2 company in no-win situations
That aren't right

Oh, if U could just pass your history class
Maybe life would be alright
Until then U'll be lookin' 4 a penny

In a large room with no light
Yeah!
Life [repeat 2 fade]
[Edited 7/30/09 8:56am]
To make a thief, make an owner; to create crime, create laws.
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Reply #338 posted 07/30/09 9:03am

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Cuddles said:

nothing about any of it adds up. even the funeral and his sons chewing gum and blowing bubbles during the whole thing and his daughter seemingly coached to fake cry at the finale.
none of it seems real.
it all appears staged. the doctors, the fitness guru. a giant hoax.
a hoax that could only be pulled off from the hysteria of the media and the fans.
and those were a shoo in to take the ball and run with it.

reimagined and not as good as the original (by a long shot) Prince song was here.



wtf! lol

I think it's real enough alright.
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Reply #339 posted 07/30/09 9:05am

angel345

Cuddles said:

nothing about any of it adds up. even the funeral and his sons chewing gum and blowing bubbles during the whole thing and his daughter seemingly coached to fake cry at the finale.
none of it seems real.
it all appears staged. the doctors, the fitness guru. a giant hoax.
a hoax that could only be pulled off from the hysteria of the media and the fans.
and those were a shoo in to take the ball and run with it.






Lana drew a picture
in school 2day
One that made her mother cry
A picture of a woman with a drink in her hand

Standing by a child with no eyes
Washington reaction based upon revenge
Babies blown 2 kingdom come

Damn the logic
Cartoon characters look better when they're on the run
Danny dropped the dime on his girlfriend

He said he didn't wanna go 2 jail alone
The seed lives in the same mind

With the thought that says we all should be stoned
And people lookin' 4 angels in the sky

Whenever they're broken-hearted
Love is grown, seeds are sown
A fire don't burn unless it's started
Did U ever feel that life was like lookin' 4 a penny
In a large room with no light?
A sophisticated man reduced 2 company in no-win situations
That aren't right
Everytime U wake up there's a little motherfucker
Talkin' big stuff in your face (Are U happy?)
U only get the kind of people that open their mouth
just 2 swap feet
Welcome 2 the rat race
Did U ever feel that life was like lookin' 4 a penny
In a large room with no light?
A sophisticated man reduced 2 company in no-win situations
That aren't right

Oh, if U could just pass your history class
Maybe life would be alright
Until then U'll be lookin' 4 a penny

In a large room with no light
Yeah!
Life [repeat 2 fade]
[Edited 7/30/09 8:56am]

Are you saying that he may have faked his death? hmmm
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Reply #340 posted 07/30/09 9:09am

bboy87

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Cuddles said:

nothing about any of it adds up. even the funeral and his sons chewing gum and blowing bubbles during the whole thing and his daughter seemingly coached to fake cry at the finale.
none of it seems real.
it all appears staged. the doctors, the fitness guru. a giant hoax.
a hoax that could only be pulled off from the hysteria of the media and the fans.
and those were a shoo in to take the ball and run with it.



are you serious?

His son probably had time to grieve. His daughter was coached?



be honest, you probably just posted so you can post the lyrics to "In A Large Room With No Light" for me because you knew it's my favorite Prince song lol
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #341 posted 07/30/09 9:11am

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Reply #342 posted 07/30/09 9:12am

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well this shit better than All My Children, As the World Turns and Bold & Beautiful combined. But unlike soap opera characters, MJ's character will never resurface. sad
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Reply #343 posted 07/30/09 9:14am

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DesireeNevermind said:

well this shit better than All My Children, As the World Turns and Bold & Beautiful combined. But unlike soap opera characters, MJ's character will never resurface. sad

speaking of All My Children


I wanna see more Angie and Jessie! lol
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #344 posted 07/30/09 9:17am

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bboy87 said:

DesireeNevermind said:

well this shit better than All My Children, As the World Turns and Bold & Beautiful combined. But unlike soap opera characters, MJ's character will never resurface. sad

speaking of All My Children


I wanna see more Angie and Jessie! lol



highfive lol
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Reply #345 posted 07/30/09 9:52am

dag

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Timmy84 said:



I wonder why they haven't said shit about it if they did one?

because it's private lol

Maybe they are waiting to see what the coroner´s gonna come up with and if the results will differ from theirs, then they will say something.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #346 posted 07/30/09 10:00am

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Timmy84 said:

SefraNSue said:



Jesus @ the second vid.

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #347 posted 07/30/09 10:19am

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Deal Reached: Jackson's Mom to Get Custody of His KidsUs Magazine - July 30, 2009 5:28 AM PDT


Damian Dovarganes-Pool/Getty ImagesUs Magazine Michael Jackson's mother Katherine will get custody of his three children under terms of a deal that's just been reached, it was reported Thursday. According to reports, Debbie Rowe, the mother of Michael's eldest children, will get visitation, but no extra money.

Though he did not go into specifics, Katherine's attorney Londell McMillan said on CBS' The Early Show Thursday: "It's an agreement, an agreement for the best interests of the children. This is not a money deal. This is not about money."

See photos of Michael Jackson's kids through the years

Since the singer's June 25 death, 79-year-old Katherine Jackson has remained in control of the three children, Prince, 12, Paris, 11, and Blanket, 7. Rowe has sent mixed signals on whether she wants to be the children's guardian.

NBC's Today show reports that under the new deal, Rowe, who will not receive any extra money, will retain her parental rights but has agreed not to claim custody.
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Reply #348 posted 07/30/09 10:24am

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Cuddles said:

nothing about any of it adds up. even the funeral and his sons chewing gum and blowing bubbles during the whole thing and his daughter seemingly coached to fake cry at the finale.
none of it seems real.
it all appears staged. the doctors, the fitness guru. a giant hoax.
a hoax that could only be pulled off from the hysteria of the media and the fans.
and those were a shoo in to take the ball and run with it.






Lana drew a picture
in school 2day
One that made her mother cry
A picture of a woman with a drink in her hand

Standing by a child with no eyes
Washington reaction based upon revenge
Babies blown 2 kingdom come

Damn the logic
Cartoon characters look better when they're on the run
Danny dropped the dime on his girlfriend

He said he didn't wanna go 2 jail alone
The seed lives in the same mind

With the thought that says we all should be stoned
And people lookin' 4 angels in the sky

Whenever they're broken-hearted
Love is grown, seeds are sown
A fire don't burn unless it's started
Did U ever feel that life was like lookin' 4 a penny
In a large room with no light?
A sophisticated man reduced 2 company in no-win situations
That aren't right
Everytime U wake up there's a little motherfucker
Talkin' big stuff in your face (Are U happy?)
U only get the kind of people that open their mouth
just 2 swap feet
Welcome 2 the rat race
Did U ever feel that life was like lookin' 4 a penny
In a large room with no light?
A sophisticated man reduced 2 company in no-win situations
That aren't right

Oh, if U could just pass your history class
Maybe life would be alright
Until then U'll be lookin' 4 a penny

In a large room with no light
Yeah!
Life [repeat 2 fade]
[Edited 7/30/09 8:56am]

Didn´t you also make that stupid video that appeared on youtube?
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #349 posted 07/30/09 10:42am

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bboy87 said:

Cuddles said:

nothing about any of it adds up. even the funeral and his sons chewing gum and blowing bubbles during the whole thing and his daughter seemingly coached to fake cry at the finale.
none of it seems real.
it all appears staged. the doctors, the fitness guru. a giant hoax.
a hoax that could only be pulled off from the hysteria of the media and the fans.
and those were a shoo in to take the ball and run with it.



are you serious?

His son probably had time to grieve. His daughter was coached?



be honest, you probably just posted so you can post the lyrics to "In A Large Room With No Light" for me because you knew it's my favorite Prince song lol

lol
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Reply #350 posted 07/30/09 10:49am

tmo1965

dag said:

Timmy84 said:



Jesus @ the second vid.

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek


Im glad to hear it. nod
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Reply #351 posted 07/30/09 10:51am

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Deal reached

The statement reads:

Katherine Jackson shall be the guardian for the minor children.

Deborah Rowe shall exercise visitation rights with the two oldest children. The timing, frequency and manner of visits shall be implemented according to the best interests of the children, as determined by a child psychologist selected jointly, and paid jointly, by Katherine Jackson and Deborah Rowe.

The parties have neither sought nor agreed to any compensation to be exchanged, apart from the continuation of spousal support payments that had previously been personally agreed to between Michael Jackson and Deborah Rowe.

L. Londell McMillan and Diane Goodman, attorneys for Mrs. Jackson in this matter, stated, "Mrs Jackson and the family are pleased this matter is resolved and was handled in a caring, thoughtful and courteous manner by the parties and their representatives. We were all united in our goals to do what is best for Michael's wonderful children, and both Mrs Jackson and Debbie Rowe were on the exact same page. Accordingly, although important issues had to be resolved, this was no legal contest but rather simply a process doing the right thing for the right reasons."

Eric George, counsel for Deborah Rowe, stated as follows: "The parties engaged in a dignified discussion that resulted in a dignified outcome. The sole consideration between the parties was the best interests of the children. I’m proud to have worked with such professionals who represented Ms. Jackson, and I am particularly proud of Deborah for her integrity and selflessness."


http://www.theinsider.com...nt_Details
[Edited 7/30/09 10:53am]
Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart
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Reply #352 posted 07/30/09 10:56am

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^ Exactly what I thought would happen. The media have always salivated over any thought that Debbie Rowe would fight for full custody of the children, even going as far as making up false quotes. I don't think she's ever really changed her tune throughout.
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Reply #353 posted 07/30/09 11:00am

dag

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jamgirl said:

Deal reached

The statement reads:

Katherine Jackson shall be the guardian for the minor children.

Deborah Rowe shall exercise visitation rights with the two oldest children. The timing, frequency and manner of visits shall be implemented according to the best interests of the children, as determined by a child psychologist selected jointly, and paid jointly, by Katherine Jackson and Deborah Rowe.

The parties have neither sought nor agreed to any compensation to be exchanged, apart from the continuation of spousal support payments that had previously been personally agreed to between Michael Jackson and Deborah Rowe.

L. Londell McMillan and Diane Goodman, attorneys for Mrs. Jackson in this matter, stated, "Mrs Jackson and the family are pleased this matter is resolved and was handled in a caring, thoughtful and courteous manner by the parties and their representatives. We were all united in our goals to do what is best for Michael's wonderful children, and both Mrs Jackson and Debbie Rowe were on the exact same page. Accordingly, although important issues had to be resolved, this was no legal contest but rather simply a process doing the right thing for the right reasons."

Eric George, counsel for Deborah Rowe, stated as follows: "The parties engaged in a dignified discussion that resulted in a dignified outcome. The sole consideration between the parties was the best interests of the children. I’m proud to have worked with such professionals who represented Ms. Jackson, and I am particularly proud of Deborah for her integrity and selflessness."


http://www.theinsider.com...nt_Details
[Edited 7/30/09 10:53am]

I am glad they worked it out.
[Edited 7/30/09 11:01am]
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #354 posted 07/30/09 11:01am

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Ellie said:

^ Exactly what I thought would happen. The media have always salivated over any thought that Debbie Rowe would fight for full custody of the children, even going as far as making up false quotes. I don't think she's ever really changed her tune throughout.


As long as folks don't forget about lil Blanket
Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart
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Reply #355 posted 07/30/09 11:04am

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Cuddles said:

nothing about any of it adds up. even the funeral and his sons chewing gum and blowing bubbles during the whole thing and his daughter seemingly coached to fake cry at the finale.
none of it seems real.
it all appears staged. the doctors, the fitness guru. a giant hoax.
a hoax that could only be pulled off from the hysteria of the media and the fans.
and those were a shoo in to take the ball and run with it.


Lana drew a picture
in school 2day
One that made her mother cry
A picture of a woman with a drink in her hand

Standing by a child with no eyes
Washington reaction based upon revenge
Babies blown 2 kingdom come

Damn the logic
Cartoon characters look better when they're on the run
Danny dropped the dime on his girlfriend

He said he didn't wanna go 2 jail alone
The seed lives in the same mind

With the thought that says we all should be stoned
And people lookin' 4 angels in the sky

Whenever they're broken-hearted
Love is grown, seeds are sown
A fire don't burn unless it's started
Did U ever feel that life was like lookin' 4 a penny
In a large room with no light?
A sophisticated man reduced 2 company in no-win situations
That aren't right
Everytime U wake up there's a little motherfucker
Talkin' big stuff in your face (Are U happy?)
U only get the kind of people that open their mouth
just 2 swap feet
Welcome 2 the rat race
Did U ever feel that life was like lookin' 4 a penny
In a large room with no light?
A sophisticated man reduced 2 company in no-win situations
That aren't right

Oh, if U could just pass your history class
Maybe life would be alright
Until then U'll be lookin' 4 a penny

In a large room with no light
Yeah!
Life [repeat 2 fade]
[Edited 7/30/09 8:56am]


Now I have heard it all.

Those children believe it or not were chewing gum as a tribute to their Dad who by the way loved Bubble Gum.
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Reply #356 posted 07/30/09 11:14am

Copycat

Cuddles said:

nothing about any of it adds up. even the funeral and his sons chewing gum and blowing bubbles during the whole thing and his daughter seemingly coached to fake cry at the finale.
none of it seems real.
it all appears staged. the doctors, the fitness guru. a giant hoax.
a hoax that could only be pulled off from the hysteria of the media and the fans.
and those were a shoo in to take the ball and run with it.



Based on your observations, does this mean Michael Jackson conceivably
might have faked his own death to get out of the performance contract with AEG? Damn! How deep does this conspiracy go? confused
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Reply #357 posted 07/30/09 11:25am

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Will.I.Am talking about a song Mj recorded after the death of James Brown called I Will Miss You

MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #358 posted 07/30/09 11:31am

lowkey

Ellie said:

^ Exactly what I thought would happen. The media have always salivated over any thought that Debbie Rowe would fight for full custody of the children, even going as far as making up false quotes. I don't think she's ever really changed her tune throughout.



i agree,its like the media was begging her to come out and fight katherine for those kids, when it seemed like there would be no custody fight the dumb media went so far as to suggest the 'biological father' may fight for them...since when did sperm donors get paternal rights?
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Reply #359 posted 07/30/09 11:37am

lowkey

Cuddles said:[quote]nothing about any of it adds up. even the funeral and his sons chewing gum and blowing bubbles during the whole thing and his daughter seemingly coached to fake cry at the finale.
none of it seems real.
it all appears staged. the doctors, the fitness guru. a giant hoax.
a hoax that could only be pulled off from the hysteria of the media and the fans.
and those were a shoo in to take the ball and run with it.


well one thing you can bet is real is that michael is gone, its really messed up for yu to suggest his kids wer faking, lil blaket didnt know wtf was goin on (i was 7 when my mom died so trust i know), the oldest boy was in a daze and that lil girl was tryin hard to be a big girl, whateva the public's perception of michael was he was daddy to those kids so imagine losing your daddy and then think about how they are feeling.
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