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Thread started 07/22/09 7:15pm

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Prince ,Paris, and Blanket recorsding.

NOw since Michael's gone someone's got to fill the space of bihhest superstar in the world. Right now it would be Madonna. But perhaps The Jackson family can spuroff some new successes. Do you think Prince, Paris, or Blanket have the talent to soar as high as their father?
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Reply #1 posted 07/22/09 7:20pm

coolcat

I don't think any such expectation should be put upon them. There should be no expectation for them to enter the music business or showbusiness.

Let them grow up and enter whatever field they wish to...
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Reply #2 posted 07/22/09 7:25pm

Anxiety

they were born into a bizarre life. i hope they feel free to do whatever it is they want to do, whether than means being a recording artist or being a librarian or being a farmer or whatEVER.
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Reply #3 posted 07/22/09 7:36pm

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Anxiety said:

they were born into a bizarre life. i hope they feel free to do whatever it is they want to do, whether than means being a recording artist or being a librarian or being a farmer or whatEVER.

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Reply #4 posted 07/22/09 7:42pm

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shut up, already.
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Reply #5 posted 07/22/09 7:51pm

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Madge is the last of the true Megastars. The way the world works with the internet has changed things too much to allow those types of people to be created anymore.
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Reply #6 posted 07/22/09 7:59pm

Anxiety

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Madge is the last of the true Megastars. The way the world works with the internet has changed things too much to allow those types of people to be created anymore.


i agree. we're not allowed to mythologize pop idols anymore.
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Reply #7 posted 07/22/09 8:12pm

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Anxiety said:

ehuffnsd said:

Madge is the last of the true Megastars. The way the world works with the internet has changed things too much to allow those types of people to be created anymore.


i agree. we're not allowed to mythologize pop idols anymore.


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Reply #8 posted 07/22/09 8:24pm

Anxiety

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Anxiety said:



i agree. we're not allowed to mythologize pop idols anymore.


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well, we're not. i feel like the pop idols today are constructed to have very "real" personas and that their fans are invited to "know everything"...kinda like the days of fabian or the days of leif garrett. this point in pop culture couldn't produce someone whose persona is based on an over-the-top persona and a reluctance to expose any kind of personal life details. i mean, i guess there's lady gaga, but she's kinda biting on what's already been done.
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Reply #9 posted 07/22/09 9:06pm

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fluid said:

NOw since Michael's gone someone's got to fill the space of bihhest superstar in the world. Right now it would be Madonna. But perhaps The Jackson family can spuroff some new successes. Do you think Prince, Paris, or Blanket have the talent to soar as high as their father?


What is "bihhest" and "recorsding" ?
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Reply #10 posted 07/22/09 9:48pm

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fluid said:

NOw since Michael's gone someone's got to fill the space of bihhest superstar in the world. Right now it would be Madonna. But perhaps The Jackson family can spuroff some new successes. Do you think Prince, Paris, or Blanket have the talent to soar as high as their father?


What is "bihhest" and "recorsding" ?


maybe english is their second language? if so, not a bad job of writing it. wink
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Reply #11 posted 07/22/09 10:23pm

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It's hard as it is for the second generation of the family to start recording careers
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Reply #12 posted 07/22/09 10:34pm

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It's hard as it is for the second generation of the family to start recording careers



Yeah, but no one cares about them. Sadly, the industry would be all over MJ's kids. You see all those "Paris is going to be a star" articles that have popped up recently. I hope these kids stay far away from the industry.
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Reply #13 posted 07/22/09 10:43pm

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mookie said:

bboy87 said:

It's hard as it is for the second generation of the family to start recording careers



Yeah, but no one cares about them. Sadly, the industry would be all over MJ's kids. You see all those "Paris is going to be a star" articles that have popped up recently. I hope these kids stay far away from the industry.

Some of them are really talented. Rebbie's son has a deal, and Tito's son is a songwriter
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Reply #14 posted 07/22/09 11:07pm

Arnotts

Anxiety said:

ehuffnsd said:

Madge is the last of the true Megastars. The way the world works with the internet has changed things too much to allow those types of people to be created anymore.


i agree. we're not allowed to mythologize pop idols anymore.

Thats true, which is exactly why I don't think Madonna is truly a megastar anymore. I think Madonnas iconic time was from the beginning untill the 'Music' period. Well thats at least when I think her career moves stopped being talked about as big events. Michael still had this mystery, this sense of awe around him even if he wasnt releasing records or having hits. In spite of Madonna still releasing singles and doing concerts, which made some people feel she was a bigger star than Michael before his death, she had lost that phenomenon that used to surround her, that for some reason Michael still kept, even at his lowest point. But I'm still not sure it's Michaels kids that are going to fill that gap
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Reply #15 posted 07/22/09 11:22pm

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Arnotts said:

Anxiety said:



i agree. we're not allowed to mythologize pop idols anymore.

Thats true, which is exactly why I don't think Madonna is truly a megastar anymore. I think Madonnas iconic time was from the beginning untill the 'Music' period. Well thats at least when I think her career moves stopped being talked about as big events. Michael still had this mystery, this sense of awe around him even if he wasnt releasing records or having hits. In spite of Madonna still releasing singles and doing concerts, which made some people feel she was a bigger star than Michael before his death, she had lost that phenomenon that used to surround her, that for some reason Michael still kept, even at his lowest point. But I'm still not sure it's Michaels kids that are going to fill that gap

riight that's why she is currently on the second leg of the highest grossing tour of a solo artist in history.
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Reply #16 posted 07/22/09 11:48pm

Arnotts

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Arnotts said:


Thats true, which is exactly why I don't think Madonna is truly a megastar anymore. I think Madonnas iconic time was from the beginning untill the 'Music' period. Well thats at least when I think her career moves stopped being talked about as big events. Michael still had this mystery, this sense of awe around him even if he wasnt releasing records or having hits. In spite of Madonna still releasing singles and doing concerts, which made some people feel she was a bigger star than Michael before his death, she had lost that phenomenon that used to surround her, that for some reason Michael still kept, even at his lowest point. But I'm still not sure it's Michaels kids that are going to fill that gap

riight that's why she is currently on the second leg of the highest grossing tour of a solo artist in history.

Thats exactly what I'm talking about. Its not about success. You can sprout how succesful shes been forever if you want. Madonnas been more successful than Michael for the last 7 years (except this year of course) but she still wasn't on the same level fame wise anymore. Shes become a very normal everyday person, which is a no-no for a person of megastar legendary status.
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Reply #17 posted 07/23/09 12:02am

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Arnotts said:

ehuffnsd said:


riight that's why she is currently on the second leg of the highest grossing tour of a solo artist in history.

Thats exactly what I'm talking about. Its not about success. You can sprout how succesful shes been forever if you want. Madonnas been more successful than Michael for the last 7 years (except this year of course) but she still wasn't on the same level fame wise anymore. Shes become a very normal everyday person, which is a no-no for a person of megastar legendary status.

i beg to differ whenever she appears on the cover of a mag or on a tv show the ratings do go up. she's been very good about controlling when and where she appears. was it more than coincidence that her brothers book hit the stores at the same time tickets for her tour went on sell?
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Reply #18 posted 07/23/09 12:57am

Arnotts

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Arnotts said:


Thats exactly what I'm talking about. Its not about success. You can sprout how succesful shes been forever if you want. Madonnas been more successful than Michael for the last 7 years (except this year of course) but she still wasn't on the same level fame wise anymore. Shes become a very normal everyday person, which is a no-no for a person of megastar legendary status.

i beg to differ whenever she appears on the cover of a mag or on a tv show the ratings do go up. she's been very good about controlling when and where she appears. was it more than coincidence that her brothers book hit the stores at the same time tickets for her tour went on sell?

Look I'm not acting like shes a complete nobody or anything, I'm not a hater, I mean I do also think she is the biggest star on the planet now. But I still don't think its the same level she used to have or that Michael had, and again I'm not talking success wise. Michael of course wasnt what he used to be success wise either. It has nothing to do with that, I just want to keep stating that. I just remember very well around the 'Music' time when everyone was still in awe of her, she was still the Goddess, the ultimate female star, even during Erotica, one of her lowest public moments she still held that appeal. I just don't get that feeling anymore.
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Reply #19 posted 07/23/09 1:06am

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Arnotts said:

ehuffnsd said:


i beg to differ whenever she appears on the cover of a mag or on a tv show the ratings do go up. she's been very good about controlling when and where she appears. was it more than coincidence that her brothers book hit the stores at the same time tickets for her tour went on sell?

Look I'm not acting like shes a complete nobody or anything, I'm not a hater, I mean I do also think she is the biggest star on the planet now. But I still don't think its the same level she used to have or that Michael had, and again I'm not talking success wise. Michael of course wasnt what he used to be success wise either. It has nothing to do with that, I just want to keep stating that. I just remember very well around the 'Music' time when everyone was still in awe of her, she was still the Goddess, the ultimate female star, even during Erotica, one of her lowest public moments she still held that appeal. I just don't get that feeling anymore.

her music is still everywhere and, i'm guess you are American, but in Europe she is still as big there as everywhere else. Confessions On A Dance Floor debuted at #1 in 29 countries (a world record now surpassed by her own album, Hard Candy, which debuted at #1 in 37 countries), and became #1 in over 40 countries (another world record).
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Reply #20 posted 07/23/09 1:27am

Arnotts

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Arnotts said:


Look I'm not acting like shes a complete nobody or anything, I'm not a hater, I mean I do also think she is the biggest star on the planet now. But I still don't think its the same level she used to have or that Michael had, and again I'm not talking success wise. Michael of course wasnt what he used to be success wise either. It has nothing to do with that, I just want to keep stating that. I just remember very well around the 'Music' time when everyone was still in awe of her, she was still the Goddess, the ultimate female star, even during Erotica, one of her lowest public moments she still held that appeal. I just don't get that feeling anymore.

her music is still everywhere and, i'm guess you are American, but in Europe she is still as big there as everywhere else. Confessions On A Dance Floor debuted at #1 in 29 countries (a world record now surpassed by her own album, Hard Candy, which debuted at #1 in 37 countries), and became #1 in over 40 countries (another world record).

No I'm Australian. You seem to not be getting me when I state its not about success, its about Aura.
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Reply #21 posted 07/23/09 1:45am

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how did this go from the Jackson kids to Madge's legacy? lol
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Reply #22 posted 07/23/09 1:49am

Arnotts

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how did this go from the Jackson kids to Madge's legacy? lol

Well everyone was saying we still have Madonna, and I was just saying I agree, but only to a certain extent. I actually think Madonnas daughter could do something special. It would actually be cool to see both of their children do something big.
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Reply #23 posted 07/23/09 1:54am

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It's hard as it is for the second generation of the family to start recording careers

It would be great to see some of them doing something, although i would fear that the expectation would be too high. If they would be lucky enough not to have it that hard, it would be great, but I doubt that´ll happen. I just pray they are OK right now.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #24 posted 07/23/09 3:24am

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Paris had repeatedly said she wants to be an entertainer.
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Reply #25 posted 07/23/09 4:10am

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ehuffnsd said:

Arnotts said:


Thats true, which is exactly why I don't think Madonna is truly a megastar anymore. I think Madonnas iconic time was from the beginning untill the 'Music' period. Well thats at least when I think her career moves stopped being talked about as big events. Michael still had this mystery, this sense of awe around him even if he wasnt releasing records or having hits. In spite of Madonna still releasing singles and doing concerts, which made some people feel she was a bigger star than Michael before his death, she had lost that phenomenon that used to surround her, that for some reason Michael still kept, even at his lowest point. But I'm still not sure it's Michaels kids that are going to fill that gap

riight that's why she is currently on the second leg of the highest grossing tour of a solo artist in history.


A lot of that is to do with her extortionate ticket prices wink
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Reply #26 posted 07/23/09 7:39am

Anxiety

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Anxiety said:



i agree. we're not allowed to mythologize pop idols anymore.

Thats true, which is exactly why I don't think Madonna is truly a megastar anymore. I think Madonnas iconic time was from the beginning untill the 'Music' period. Well thats at least when I think her career moves stopped being talked about as big events. Michael still had this mystery, this sense of awe around him even if he wasnt releasing records or having hits. In spite of Madonna still releasing singles and doing concerts, which made some people feel she was a bigger star than Michael before his death, she had lost that phenomenon that used to surround her, that for some reason Michael still kept, even at his lowest point. But I'm still not sure it's Michaels kids that are going to fill that gap


i think she is still a megastar. i don't think she's a chart-topper like she used to be, but the pop charts are a different beast now than they were when she first became popular, and i don't think she's expected to play the same games that those artists just coming into the spotlight have to play in this day and age. but i'd say madonna still has that sense of mystique and persona that you don't get in pop stars these days. sure, you see madonna in the tabloids a lot and you hear about all her adoptions, etc., but even at her most media-whorish, all she offered was a PROJECTION of herself, the version of her she wanted the world to see. and that projection has always been very stylized and over-the-top. today's pop stars aren't encouraged to be that creative about their public persona.
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Reply #27 posted 07/23/09 7:57am

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ehuffnsd said:


riight that's why she is currently on the second leg of the highest grossing tour of a solo artist in history.

Thats exactly what I'm talking about. Its not about success. You can sprout how succesful shes been forever if you want. Madonnas been more successful than Michael for the last 7 years (except this year of course) but she still wasn't on the same level fame wise anymore. Shes become a very normal everyday person, which is a no-no for a person of megastar legendary status.


I think it's because MJJ was more successfull than M and more quite whereas Madonna appeared on many tv shows ellen, the view, rosie, letterman so she seemed more human. Michael has not given many interviews which helped feed the myth that was Michael Jackson. I mean people acted like they saw a unicorn when they saw MJ
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Reply #28 posted 07/23/09 8:08am

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Well I'm young so I'll say this most people my age see Madonna as a big famewhore. Hardcandy flopped I think and I don't remember the singles being a hit. Even Mariah is doing better on the charts than her right now. But she does do well with touring. Btw, I do think MJ's kids could become successful if they had talent. The interest is already there.
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Reply #29 posted 07/23/09 8:09am

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and that's why they say the last superdupermega (!) star is gone. dont mind the interview. obviously he was drugged up
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