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Now THIS is the ONE! He paved the way for everybody. He laid down the blueprint that others followed. Everyone from The Beatles (who they themselves cop to that he highly influenced them) to Jimi Hendrix (who cemented in Jimi's mind that it was truly cool to truly be free visually as well as musically AFTER Jimi was no longer Richard's sideman! Of course not while Jimi was playing in Richard's band: "I'm the ONLY one allowed to be pretty! Jimmy James...button up those sleeves!...Whooooo!" Richard on Jimi..."He played it sooooo good. He played it so good that he make your big toe shoot up out your boot!" His influence on Prince goes without saying. [Edited 7/28/09 0:33am]  | |
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Timmy84 said: blackguitaristz said:
Now THIS is the ONE! He paved the way for everybody. He laid down the blueprint that others followed. Everyone from The Beatles (who they themselves cop to that he highly influenced them) to Jimi Hendrix (who cemented in Jimi's mind that it was truly cool to truly be free visually as well as musically AFTER Jimi was no longer Richard's sideman! Of course not while Jimi was playing in Richard's band: "I'm the ONLY one allowed to be pretty! Jimmy James...button up those sleeves!...Whooooo!" Richard on Jimi..."He played it sooooo good. He played it so good that he make your big toe shoot up out your boot!" His influence on Prince goes without saying. [Edited 7/28/09 0:33am] 100% correct | |
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Timmy84 said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: Hold up now! Wooo! I did NOT say that Michael was the ORIGINATOR! I said that Michael, kicked the door open, that allowed Prince to come through! And he did because Prince and his "fancy lesbian"  ass came through the door, that was opened in the '80's, which without a doubt, was founded on the advent of MTV and "music videos"! The originator being, Michael Jackson!
Now if we take into account, the originator's of Michael Jackson! Then there is no doubt, to me, that HIS originators, were the ORIGINAL originators! Including...James Brown, Frank Sinatra, Danny Kaye, Sammy Davis, Fred Astaire. Gene Kelly, Elvis. Chuck Berry and yes...Little Richard!
"Yeah but I AM the originator, I'm just glad Mike gave me my royalties...WOO!  " surviving on the thought of loving you, it's just like the water
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Timmy84 said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: HatrinaHaterwitz, at your service!
Speaking as someone who has loved BOTH Michael Jackson and Prince, respectively, in unmeasurable ways...Michael was right! HE is the one that kicked the doors open, that allowed Prince to come through! IMHO, there would have been no Prince had there not been, a Michael Jackson! On that same note, there would have STILL been...a Michael Jackson, had there not been...a Prince! Do with that, what you will...but it is... what it is!  Right now Little Richard is looking at this post and is telling me to tell you God will not forgive you for getting all the credit to "that Jheri Curl mama's boy, wooo! God rest his soul but he stole my makeup AND my hairdo and my voice. Least he gave me some royalties or I'd sure been calling him for blasphemy! SHUT UP! WOO!"   "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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blackguitaristz said:
Now THIS is the ONE! He paved the way for everybody. He laid down the blueprint that others followed. Everyone from The Beatles (who they themselves cop to that he highly influenced them) to Jimi Hendrix (who cemented in Jimi's mind that it was truly cool to truly be free visually as well as musically AFTER Jimi was no longer Richard's sideman! Of course not while Jimi was playing in Richard's band: "I'm the ONLY one allowed to be pretty! Jimmy James...button up those sleeves!...Whooooo!" Richard on Jimi..."He played it sooooo good. He played it so good that he make your big toe shoot up out your boot!" His influence on Prince goes without saying. Yes, it does. MJ may have worn pancake makeup like him, and inadvertently transformed his "woo" ( ) into "woo-hoo," but Prince literally emulated/became Little Richard (specifically from 1983-1986). And yet, I have never heard or read of Prince ever acknowledging him, except with that bucket of chicken joke.  "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Timmy84 said:
"Yeah but I AM the originator, I'm just glad Mike gave me my royalties...WOO! " Timmy! | |
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WaterInYourBath said: blackguitaristz said:
Now THIS is the ONE! He paved the way for everybody. He laid down the blueprint that others followed. Everyone from The Beatles (who they themselves cop to that he highly influenced them) to Jimi Hendrix (who cemented in Jimi's mind that it was truly cool to truly be free visually as well as musically AFTER Jimi was no longer Richard's sideman! Of course not while Jimi was playing in Richard's band: "I'm the ONLY one allowed to be pretty! Jimmy James...button up those sleeves!...Whooooo!" Richard on Jimi..."He played it sooooo good. He played it so good that he make your big toe shoot up out your boot!" His influence on Prince goes without saying. Yes, it does. MJ may have worn pancake makeup like him, and inadvertently transformed his "woo" ( ) into "woo-hoo," but Prince literally emulated/became Little Richard (specifically from 1983-1986). And yet, I have never heard or read of Prince ever acknowledging him, except with that bucket of chicken joke. It's quite obvious that U cannot stand the sight of P. That's ur personal preference. Not mad at 'cha. While Richard's influence on P was obvious as he also influenced Sir Paul (which initially was the reason why John Lennon took him in his band in the first place because Paul sang like him), Elvis, MJ, Jimi, David Bowie, and Madge, P incorporated a style all in2 his own, especially during that era (1983-1986). Musically speaking, he took the concepts of Jimi, Sly, Lennon-McCartney, JB, and ingeniuosly incorporated his style along with his father's jazz background and the sights and scenes of his hometown Minneapolis (his days with Grand Central jamming w/ Flyte Tyme). In truth, if one had 2 argue who P emulated musically, it was Miles Davis, 2 whom P became close with from 1985 until Miles' death in '91. Miles was 2 P what Sammy Davis, Jr was 2 MJ in terms of musical and entertaining vision was concerned. As far as influence, P has acknowledged LR, as well as Lennon, Miles especially, Joni, Jimi, Sly (which coincides with his close relationship w/ Larry Graham as they're both JWs), JB (which coincided with P using JB's original sax sideman Maceo Parker in his band off and on for the past ten years) as important musical influences. While his "bucket of chicken and a Cadillac" mention was in somewhat poor taste, his intention was explaining how several artists, especially African-American were treated at that time where many were ripped-off from their royalties. My  .[Edited 8/23/09 12:24pm] |
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WaterInYourBath said: blackguitaristz said:
Now THIS is the ONE! He paved the way for everybody. He laid down the blueprint that others followed. Everyone from The Beatles (who they themselves cop to that he highly influenced them) to Jimi Hendrix (who cemented in Jimi's mind that it was truly cool to truly be free visually as well as musically AFTER Jimi was no longer Richard's sideman! Of course not while Jimi was playing in Richard's band: "I'm the ONLY one allowed to be pretty! Jimmy James...button up those sleeves!...Whooooo!" Richard on Jimi..."He played it sooooo good. He played it so good that he make your big toe shoot up out your boot!" His influence on Prince goes without saying. Yes, it does. MJ may have worn pancake makeup like him, and inadvertently transformed his "woo" ( ) into "woo-hoo," but Prince literally emulated/became Little Richard (specifically from 1983-1986). And yet, I have never heard or read of Prince ever acknowledging him, except with that bucket of chicken joke. I remember he did give some kind of praise on one of his website incarnations, hell if I know which one. | |
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That crack your smoking must be really good. Why don't you say that RnB music wold have come to a halt if MJ was not born (LOL).
Prince has said numerous times he got into music because his Dad was a musician/ Seems to me since he had hit rnb records before Thriller and these records always contained some pop/rock recording he was already motivated without MJ success. Record companies always want artist to sell the maximum amount of music possible so it seems P would have made an attempt to cross over with or without MJ success. ----- HatrinaHaterwitz said: errant said: this is a really disappointing thread. everyone sitting around waiting for the fireworks to start and it's not happening.
 HatrinaHaterwitz, at your service!
Speaking as someone who has loved BOTH Michael Jackson and Prince, respectively, in unmeasurable ways...Michael was right! HE is the one that kicked the doors open, that allowed Prince to come through! IMHO, there would have been no Prince had there not been, a Michael Jackson! On that same note, there would have STILL been...a Michael Jackson, had there not been...a Prince! Do with that, what you will...but it is... what it is! | |
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Smittyrock70 said: WaterInYourBath said: Yes, it does. MJ may have worn pancake makeup like him, and inadvertently transformed his "woo" ( ) into "woo-hoo," but Prince literally emulated/became Little Richard (specifically from 1983-1986). And yet, I have never heard or read of Prince ever acknowledging him, except with that bucket of chicken joke. It's quite obvious that U cannot stand the sight of P. That's ur personal preference. Not mad at 'cha. While Richard's influence on P was obvious as he also influenced Sir Paul (which initially was the reason why John Lennon took him in his band in the first place because Paul sang like him), Elvis, MJ, Jimi, David Bowie, and Madge, P incorporated a style all in2 his own, especially during that era (1983-1986). Musically speaking, he took the concepts of Jimi, Sly, Lennon-McCartney, JB, and ingeniuosly incorporated his style along with his father's jazz background and the sights and scenes of his hometown Minneapolis (his days with Grand Central jamming w/ Flyte Tyme). In truth, if one had 2 argue who P emulated musically, it was Miles Davis, 2 whom P became close with from 1985 until Miles' death in '91. Miles was 2 P what Sammy Davis, Jr was 2 MJ in terms of musical and entertaining vision was concerned. As far as influence, P has acknowledged LR, as well as Lennon, Miles especially, Joni, Jimi, Sly (which coincides with his close relationship w/ Larry Graham as they're both JWs), JB (which coincided with P using JB's original sax sideman Maceo Parker in his band off and on for the past ten years) as important musical influences. While his "bucket of chicken and a Cadillac" mention was in somewhat poor taste, his intention was explaining how several artists, especially African-American were treated at that time where many were ripped-off from their royalties. My .
[Edited 8/23/09 12:24pm] Thanks, but I knew all of that already. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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WaterInYourBath said: Smittyrock70 said: It's quite obvious that U cannot stand the sight of P. That's ur personal preference. Not mad at 'cha. While Richard's influence on P was obvious as he also influenced Sir Paul (which initially was the reason why John Lennon took him in his band in the first place because Paul sang like him), Elvis, MJ, Jimi, David Bowie, and Madge, P incorporated a style all in2 his own, especially during that era (1983-1986). Musically speaking, he took the concepts of Jimi, Sly, Lennon-McCartney, JB, and ingeniuosly incorporated his style along with his father's jazz background and the sights and scenes of his hometown Minneapolis (his days with Grand Central jamming w/ Flyte Tyme). In truth, if one had 2 argue who P emulated musically, it was Miles Davis, 2 whom P became close with from 1985 until Miles' death in '91. Miles was 2 P what Sammy Davis, Jr was 2 MJ in terms of musical and entertaining vision was concerned. As far as influence, P has acknowledged LR, as well as Lennon, Miles especially, Joni, Jimi, Sly (which coincides with his close relationship w/ Larry Graham as they're both JWs), JB (which coincided with P using JB's original sax sideman Maceo Parker in his band off and on for the past ten years) as important musical influences. While his "bucket of chicken and a Cadillac" mention was in somewhat poor taste, his intention was explaining how several artists, especially African-American were treated at that time where many were ripped-off from their royalties. My .
[Edited 8/23/09 12:24pm] Thanks, but I knew all of that already. K. Peace.  [Edited 8/24/09 11:51am] |
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Smittyrock70 said: WaterInYourBath said: Thanks, but I knew all of that already. K. Peace.
[Edited 8/24/09 11:51am]  "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Timmy84 said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: HatrinaHaterwitz, at your service!
Speaking as someone who has loved BOTH Michael Jackson and Prince, respectively, in unmeasurable ways...Michael was right! HE is the one that kicked the doors open, that allowed Prince to come through! IMHO, there would have been no Prince had there not been, a Michael Jackson! On that same note, there would have STILL been...a Michael Jackson, had there not been...a Prince! Do with that, what you will...but it is... what it is! Right now Little Richard is looking at this post and is telling me to tell you God will not forgive you for getting all the credit to "that Jheri Curl mama's boy, wooo! God rest his soul but he stole my makeup AND my hairdo and my voice. Least he gave me some royalties or I'd sure been calling him for blasphemy! SHUT UP! WOO!" | |
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