ernest, i believe you said some judgemental stuff about me in a thread-something about me being deaf, so I wouldn't say anything if I were you.
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dannyd5050 said:

Pass me that popcorn.

Timmy84 said:

Be my guest.

scriptgirl said:

No clue what you're going on about, but you are the last person to even think you have the power to tell me what to do. You aren't me, which is why I'm not going anywhere, babycakes. Don't be all butt hurt about something in the past. Move on, already.

dannyd5050 said:

Thanks.

Firstly, do not patronize me and do not call me babycakes-you really do like to insult people, don't you? Secondly, this is what I am talking about. I vocalized my opinion and for no reason at all, you decided to be hateful.



And this was your uncalled for response. Just because I didn't agree with you was no call for you to be nasty.


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scriptgirl said:

If you're going to twist the truth, let's tell the WHOLE truth. I said:



I later said


And I later explained myself again when someone thought I was flaming you, sugar lumps:

ernestsewell said:

So if that's what you're getting all butt hurt about then get over it. I made my point. Get off the cross, we're gonna need the wood.
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Again, do you have to be so insulting? Can't you just leave out the derogatory slang? It seems YOU are the one who had a bad day and not me. Yes, you explained yourself, but the bigger question is why did you have to be so nasty in the first place? I wasn't personally attacking you, just voicing my opinion.

scriptgirl said:

I could've just called you a bitch. But I didn't.

I had a great day actually, thanks for wondering about that.

I wasn't nasty in the first place. YOU got butt hurt about it. I explained myself. Anything else is on you.

Okay, back top topic:

I'm sorry I gave the impression, RT would be Thriller. I think, in fact he might have written his best songs for people that are not MJ.

Stomp!, Grooveline, Boogie Nights and many others are pure quality.

Rod's problem is, that he kept a signature sound and became unfelxible in the mid 80s. He wrote some songs in the 90s, and they certainly sounded like re-dos frm his late 70s stuff.

Anyway, I think Rod's genious can't be overrated and to bring MJ back on the table.

Many claim Quincy ould have made MJ. Which is silly. But certainly ROD had a huge role in MJ's early career. Seven great tracks, two title songs.

I burnt all his songs on CD (I have like 6 or 7 Cds now) and it's amazing.

graecophilos said:

I had no idea he did "Stomp". One of my favorite songs too. Man, SO much good stuff from that time, and that man! It wasn't just Q that made MJ, it was a team effort. Bill Bottrell played a huge role in the BAD and Dangerous and HIStory days as well. It takes more than just the artist to make them what they are. Even if Prince played all the stuff himself, he still had influence from somewhere, whether it was other bands, or band members.

Another song that gets overlooked is "Girlfriend" from Off The Wall, which Paul McCartney wrote (and might have sang backup on). The press just talks about "The Girl Is Mine", but their relationship goes back further than Thriller.

I always knew Rod was white (someone mentioned they thought he was black). On the Thriller Special Edition that came out in 2001 or so, there is an interview with him on the disk, and you can tell he's white, and quite British. haha He tells a fun story about how "Thriller" was written. The things about Rod's songs is that freakin' bass line. It's not quite the norm, but it travels, and it never goes way up or way down at times, it stays just within a few notes, but hooks you right from the start.

I could have called you bitch but I didn't... backdoor insult. Really uncalled for....


Anywho: "Grooveline" is my car washing song still, the song is long enough for me to wash and polish my ride.



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ernestsewell said:

Girlfriend?

A Macca throwaway. Paul wrote the song in 1974 on the piano, and the Wings recorded it in 1977.

ernestsewell said:

Temperton stuff :

1982 - including singers Ashley Ingram and Leee John (from UK-group, Imagination)





1980

graecophilos said:

No shit? I really had no idea. Well crap, now I have to go find it and listen to their version. It's a cute little song though, but it definitely has Macca's stamp on it as far as arrangement, etc.

All great stuff, is Posin' Til Closin an early version of Baby Be Mine? I adore those synth hooks at the beginning.

I just posted about going to a record store here in town and getting some great 12" promos of Prince, etc. But I purposely went over to the Soul section and found this record with "The Grooveline" on it. I didn't pick it up. But they had about 3 or 5 Heatwave LPs in there. I might go snag them later on. I'm even more curious about Heatwave now. I know SOME of their stuff, but now I'm more intrigued.

I love that the drummer's name was Ernest too. haha

ernestsewell said:

well, one whole part of the actual song was not used on MJ's version.

I like RT's song Sign Of The Times as well.

graecophilos said:

I listened to a snippet on iTunes, and it was horrible. I like MJ's version better.

ernestsewell said:

MJ never did a song called Sign Of The Times.

I think you have to do some research on both artists (MJ and RT)

scriptgirl said:

You seem to think Heatwave was an American band. You're wrong.

The Wilder brothers were enlisted in the military, and were stationed in Germany. After they were discharged, they stayed in Germany and gigged with various different bands. After a while, they relocated to the UK, and hooked up with Rod.
They also added Spanish bass player Mario Mantese and Czechoslovakian drummer Ernest Berger to their line-up.

graecophilos said:

I never said he did. I was referring to "Girlfriend" being a Wings song.
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LoveIsTheMessage said:

We should break it down a bit furher, courtesy of Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ave_(band)

Heatwave was an international funk/disco musical band featuring Americans Johnnie Wilder, Jr. and Keith Wilder (vocals) of Dayton, Ohio, Englishman Rod Temperton (keyboards), Spaniard Mario Mantese (bass), Czechoslovakian Ernest "Bilbo" Berger (drums), Jamaican Eric Johns (guitar) and Briton Roy Carter, (guitar).

You can show nuff hear Dayton Ohio funk influence in Heatwave's music. Some one needs to do a documentary about Dayton Ohio music scene of the 60's, 70, and early 80's. Mr. Temperton is a brilliant, brilliant musician.


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LOVE this track.