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Thread started 07/22/09 5:39pm

Ronny

Michael Jackson unreleased

Youtube is jammed packed with unreleased MJ music. I have re-visited a lot of his stuff recently and am gaining an appreciation for how great he was. I had tossed him off or cast him aside for a long time. However, he really did put out some incredible stuff. It is that voice that is 'magical'. He just always sounded so amazing (except for the grunting and groaning tendancy) on his last albums. Lesser known tracks like 'money' or 'whatever happens' are just excellent.

However, it's the unreleased stuff that's floating on Youtube that really has be taking a 2nd look. I've heard a few first rate tracks in the last few days. I don't know if they were always there or if someone is raiding his private collections, but the song he did with Freddy Mercury "there must be more to life than this' is probably up there with his best songs. For him to sit on this one, really opens my eyes to how great he actually was. All these years I've ben impressed with how Prince keeps some of his best stuff in teh vault. This song is as good as anything Prince has (circulating). It's MJ's voice that is so sincere.

Being a long time Prince fan, inevitably the comparisons will certainly begin. in my opinion, Prince , in terms of star power, is obviously a dim bulb compared to the hot sun that Michael was. Of course musically, Prince is/was more daring but is there anyone else like Prince in that regard? ON stage, I think it is a mmatter of taste, of course to me you can't touch Prince. However when it comes to just song writing, MJ is right up there. He simply wrote beautiful songs although the Freddy duet may have been a Freedy written song. What I have noticed now listening to a lot MJ is that Michael did not 'mail it in'...no matter how crappy (Unbreakable), Michael seemed to be putting 100% into it. There is a sincerity there. With Prince, there are some tracks and even performances that just seem like he's on auto pilot. You just don't see Prince sweat that often anymore.

I love them both..have read some books on MJ and am as confused as ever. Mj is infinitely more likeable. I think that's one argument that most would agree on.

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Reply #1 posted 07/22/09 5:45pm

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Yeah, I am as convinced as ever that MJ cared more for his fans than Prince ever did or will.
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Reply #2 posted 07/22/09 5:56pm

bboy87

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If the mods allowed it, I'd post a pile of tracks here
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #3 posted 07/22/09 7:27pm

Ronny

dreamfactory313 said:

Yeah, I am as convinced as ever that MJ cared more for his fans than Prince ever did or will.
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Reply #4 posted 07/25/09 3:18am

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So this is probably old news, but that dodgy "7EVEN" album circulating, is half fake...

"SOMEONE PUT YOUR OUT" (is officially on The Ultimate Collection"
"SHOUT" is the Teddy Riley produced b-side of "CRY.
"WHY" duet with MJ and 3T is on 3T's "Brotherhood" CD - 1995.
"I NEED YOU" - also 3T, MJ on backing vocals.

finally

"WHAT MORE CAN I GIVE" - the 9/11 charity track remains unreleased, so it is the ONLY song on "7EVEN" that is of any value.


The rest, are by a young singer - Jason Malachi, and are wrongly credited to MJ -

"Xcape"
"Let Me Let Go"
"Mamacita"

and some other pretty ordinary tracks.
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Reply #5 posted 07/25/09 4:24am

Omar222

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bboy87 - out of interest - what unreleased songs do you have? I've collected them through the years but it would be interesting to know how many I don't have!
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Reply #6 posted 07/25/09 4:30am

bboy87

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Omar222 said:

bboy87 - out of interest - what unreleased songs do you have? I've collected them through the years but it would be interesting to know how many I don't have!

lemme go get my list together lol
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Reply #7 posted 07/25/09 4:52am

Militant

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RONNYRON said:

So this is probably old news, but that dodgy "7EVEN" album circulating, is half fake...

"SOMEONE PUT YOUR OUT" (is officially on The Ultimate Collection"
"SHOUT" is the Teddy Riley produced b-side of "CRY.
"WHY" duet with MJ and 3T is on 3T's "Brotherhood" CD - 1995.
"I NEED YOU" - also 3T, MJ on backing vocals.

finally

"WHAT MORE CAN I GIVE" - the 9/11 charity track remains unreleased, so it is the ONLY song on "7EVEN" that is of any value.


The rest, are by a young singer - Jason Malachi, and are wrongly credited to MJ -

"Xcape"
"Let Me Let Go"
"Mamacita"

and some other pretty ordinary tracks.


Xscape is not by Jason Malachi. It's an outtake from "Invincible".
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Reply #8 posted 07/25/09 5:15am

mikematronik

Well I have been lurking the org for months...but I have to ask something:

Has this ever leaked?

BERNIE GRUNDMAN MASTERING - CD MASTER ACETATE (2000)

Bumper Snippet (Kid P.) (0:17)
Monkey Business (5:45)
Work That Body (3:29)
If You Don't Love Me (Short Version) (4:13)
Serious Effect (Short Version) (4:18)
Happy Birthday, lisa (1:36)
She Got It (4:28)
Black Or White (The Clivilles & Cole Radio Mix) (3:33)
Dangerous (Bill Bottrell Demo Version) (6:38)
Who Is It (IHS Mix) (7:56)

I really want this... sad

I have the majority of this track on my The Ultimate collection boxset.
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Reply #9 posted 07/25/09 5:20am

mikematronik

OMG!

I just got this!!!!

drool3

Dangerous demos (DAT leak)




01. Jam
02. In The Closet (early version)
03. Remember the Time (slightly longer)
04. Black or White
05. Who Is It (longer)
06. Give Into Me (early version)
07. Keep The Faith (early version)
08. Gone to Soon (alternate version)
09. Dangerous
10. What About Us (Earth Song Demo)
11. MONKEY BUSINESS*
12. For All Time (Unreleased)^
13. If You Don't Love Me (Unreleased)
14. Serious Effect (Unreleased)
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Reply #10 posted 07/25/09 6:49am

mikematronik

I've got my paws on this baby... cool

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Reply #11 posted 07/25/09 8:13am

ernestsewell

RONNYRON said:

So this is probably old news, but that dodgy "7EVEN" album circulating, is half fake...

"SOMEONE PUT YOUR OUT" (is officially on The Ultimate Collection"
"SHOUT" is the Teddy Riley produced b-side of "CRY.
"WHY" duet with MJ and 3T is on 3T's "Brotherhood" CD - 1995.
"I NEED YOU" - also 3T, MJ on backing vocals.

finally

"WHAT MORE CAN I GIVE" - the 9/11 charity track remains unreleased, so it is the ONLY song on "7EVEN" that is of any value.


The rest, are by a young singer - Jason Malachi, and are wrongly credited to MJ -

"Xcape"
"Let Me Let Go"
"Mamacita"

and some other pretty ordinary tracks.


Xcape and Serious Effect are awesome tracks.
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Reply #12 posted 07/25/09 8:15am

mikematronik

After going around and searching...I FINALLY FOUND THE BONUS CUT ACETATE!!! eek

I can't stop listening to If You Don't Love Me music...Still it reminds me of something TTD/Sananda would do!
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Reply #13 posted 07/25/09 8:32am

Invincible1958

RONNYRON said:

"WHAT MORE CAN I GIVE" - the 9/11 charity track remains unreleased, so it is the ONLY song on "7EVEN" that is of any value.


What more can I give? is not unreleased.

Michael performed it live at "United We Stand" in Washington in October 2001, and the studio version was officially released online as an mp3 a year later.
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Reply #14 posted 07/25/09 9:05am

bboy87

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mikematronik said:

After going around and searching...I FINALLY FOUND THE BONUS CUT ACETATE!!! eek

I can't stop listening to If You Don't Love Me music...Still it reminds me of something TTD/Sananda would do!

you could've just asked me hmph!

AND WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN?!
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #15 posted 07/25/09 9:13am

mikematronik

bboy87 said:

mikematronik said:

After going around and searching...I FINALLY FOUND THE BONUS CUT ACETATE!!! eek

I can't stop listening to If You Don't Love Me music...Still it reminds me of something TTD/Sananda would do!

you could've just asked me hmph!

AND WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN?!


Well, I've gone into a phase of self-discovery. In September I will start studing to became a catholic priest.

The acetate I found is only in 128kps bitrate...do u have in a hight bitrate
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Reply #16 posted 07/25/09 9:34am

dag

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mikematronik said:

OMG!

I just got this!!!!

drool3

Dangerous demos (DAT leak)




01. Jam
02. In The Closet (early version)
03. Remember the Time (slightly longer)
04. Black or White
05. Who Is It (longer)
06. Give Into Me (early version)
07. Keep The Faith (early version)
08. Gone to Soon (alternate version)

09. Dangerous
10. What About Us (Earth Song Demo)
11. MONKEY BUSINESS*
12. For All Time (Unreleased)^
13. If You Don't Love Me (Unreleased)
14. Serious Effect (Unreleased)

Where did you get these? I´d like to hear the highlighed ones.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #17 posted 07/25/09 9:36am

Militant

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mikematronik said:

I've got my paws on this baby... cool




What is "What About Us"?

Is that an early demo of "Earth Song"? Hit me up with an orgnote on that man!!! Hot!
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Reply #18 posted 07/25/09 9:41am

NMuzakNSoul

dag said:

mikematronik said:

OMG!

I just got this!!!!

drool3

Dangerous demos (DAT leak)




01. Jam
02. In The Closet (early version)
03. Remember the Time (slightly longer)
04. Black or White
05. Who Is It (longer)
06. Give Into Me (early version)
07. Keep The Faith (early version)
08. Gone to Soon (alternate version)

09. Dangerous
10. What About Us (Earth Song Demo)
11. MONKEY BUSINESS*
12. For All Time (Unreleased)^
13. If You Don't Love Me (Unreleased)
14. Serious Effect (Unreleased)

Where did you get these? I´d like to hear the highlighed ones.


Got all of those too.
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Reply #19 posted 07/25/09 9:53am

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mikematronik said:

OMG!

I just got this!!!!

drool3

Dangerous demos (DAT leak)




01. Jam
02. In The Closet (early version)
03. Remember the Time (slightly longer)
04. Black or White
05. Who Is It (longer)
06. Give Into Me (early version)
07. Keep The Faith (early version)

08. Gone to Soon (alternate version)
09. Dangerous
10. What About Us (Earth Song Demo)
11. MONKEY BUSINESS*
12. For All Time (Unreleased)^
13. If You Don't Love Me (Unreleased)
14. Serious Effect (Unreleased)



omg

NEED IT NOW
Straight Jacket Funk Affair
Album plays and love for vinyl records.
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Reply #20 posted 07/25/09 10:01am

mikematronik

Gimme 24 hours and I will upload both discs.
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Reply #21 posted 07/25/09 10:02am

mikematronik

Militant said:

mikematronik said:

I've got my paws on this baby... cool




What is "What About Us"?

Is that an early demo of "Earth Song"? Hit me up with an orgnote on that man!!! Hot!


It's an early version of ES. MJ sings a bit out of tune at the orgasmic end.
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Reply #22 posted 07/25/09 10:03am

dag

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mikematronik said:

Gimme 24 hours and I will upload both discs.

excited
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #23 posted 07/25/09 10:04am

mikematronik

In The Closet (early version) is a solo version withput Stephanie
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Reply #24 posted 07/25/09 1:50pm

seeingvoices12

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She GOT it is a sick tune.
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #25 posted 07/25/09 1:52pm

seeingvoices12

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She GOT it[/b] is a sick tune

Plus, we still didn't hear any unreleased songs yet, MJ has hundreds of unreleased material, People will be surprised about the stuff he had written.
[Edited 7/25/09 13:53pm]
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #26 posted 07/25/09 2:41pm

bboy87

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mikematronik said:

bboy87 said:


you could've just asked me hmph!

AND WHERE THE HELL HAVE YOU BEEN?!


Well, I've gone into a phase of self-discovery. In September I will start studing to became a catholic priest.

The acetate I found is only in 128kps bitrate...do u have in a hight bitrate

eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek eek


Yeah I have the right bitrate
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Reply #27 posted 07/25/09 2:49pm

bboy87

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Omar222 said:

bboy87 - out of interest - what unreleased songs do you have? I've collected them through the years but it would be interesting to know how many I don't have!

I know I have more, but I have to look into my collection

The Jackson 5ive
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123
After The Storm (The Sun Will Shine)
Be My Girl
Come and Get It
Daydreamer
Guess Who's Making Whoopie With Your Girlfriend
I'm Your Sunny Boy
I Ain't Gonna Eat My Heart Out Anymore
I Can't Get You Off My Mind
I Hear The Symphony
I Was Made To Love Her
If I Can't Nobody Can
If You Want Heaven
I've Gotta Be Me
Jackson Man
Take My Heart
Lavender Blue
Love Call
Miss Lucky Day
Money Honey
Penny Arcade
She Say What



Michael Jackson
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Carousel
Cheater
What About Us-original version of Earth Song
Got The Hots
Groove of Midnight-
Happy Birthday, Lisa
Elizabeth I Love You
Fall Again
Fly Away
For All Time
Girl You're So Together
Hot Street
Slapstick
I Have This Dream
If You Don't Love Me
In The Back
Love Never Felt So Good
Love's Gone Bad
Monkey Business
Night Line
P.Y.T. (Original Demo)
Scared of The Moon
Serious Effect
She Got It
She's Trouble
Slapstick
We Be Ballin'
When I Come of Age (Alternate Version)
Don't Stop Til You Get Enough (Original Demo)
Wanna Be Startin' Somethin' (Demo)
Billie Jean (Home Demo)
Billie Jean (Studio Demo)
State of Shock
There Must Be More To Life Than This
We Are The World (Demo)
In The Closet (Demo)
In The Closet (Instrumental)
Remember The Time (Teddy Riley Mix)
Gone Too Soon (Alternate Vocal Take)
Keep The Faith (Demo)
Who Is It (Original Mix)
Remember The Time (Slightly longer version)
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Reply #28 posted 07/25/09 2:55pm

Bfunkthe1

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^
Wow.
Where did you "find" this stuff?
Hows the quality of most of it?
I've looked around and haven't found anything. sad
Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way.
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Reply #29 posted 07/25/09 3:01pm

bboy87

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Bfunkthe1 said:

^
Wow.
Where did you "find" this stuff?
Hows the quality of most of it?
I've looked around and haven't found anything. sad

see, you should've just asked me lol


Alot of this stuff is on MJ and Jackson 5 sites
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