I forgot to add how so many people on this forum alone hated on MJ, now he is gone, these people have THE NERVE, to put up his pics on their avatars. I was going to do that, BUt i love Michael so much and do NOT want to be like these people. Im not listening to his music either anymore.

cheesecakequeen said:

I know how you feel, it was like MJ was special, and NOW that everyone is trying act like a fan, it makes you feel like you don't even want to be apart of what these "fake fans" are doing.

Real fans loved him daily and always, and he was something special to us. Now that michael is dead, he is now a "fad" to people who didn't care about him when he was alive. I hear people listening to him non-stop as well. Not only that, i see thug looking guys with MJ ringtones such as Dirty Diana. Its ridiculous. Michael Needed this love and support when he was ALIVE, now he is dead can't even see this stuff. Im very angry about that. It makes me dislike "new fans"

I am a huge MJ fan, but believe it or not, he has never been everything I ever listened to.

TotalAlisa said:

I feel the same way. Especially about the new MJ merchandise out now. I've already spent majority of my life collecting every MJ item I could find or see in any store. I collect a lot of stuff, but rare Michael Jackson products has always been the most exciting for me. Remember how it used to be a CHALLENGE finding his t-shirts, for example? Well, at least it was in the areas I grew up in, lol. Now though, it's very weird seeing him in stores, with these people making money from this tragedy. All I can picture now is MJ novelty stores like Elvis. That will be very sad to me, and my urgency to buy the stuff will not be there.

But regarding people jumping on the MJ train, I know "real [longtime] fans" when I see them. I am never fooled. When I meet someone who supposedly "loves Michael Jackson forever".....I indirectly quiz them. Works every time, lol. I'd say something like: "You love Michael? So do I! I was listening to 'We Are Here To Change The World' on the way here. Isn't that song great? I love Captain EO." And they say: "What? What song is that? And captain who?"

WaterInYourBath said:

It made me MAD last night when I checked a blog and a girl who was talking about MJ's death had the nerve to say "Candy Girl" was a Jackson 5 song!

Timmy84 said:

! now that one i've heard before on a bus.

matthewgrant said:

And these people swear they knew what they were talking about too, I reckon.

Timmy84 said:

TotalAlisa said:

I feel the same way. Especially about the new MJ merchandise out now. I've already spent majority of my life collecting every MJ item I could find or see in any store. I collect a lot of stuff, but rare Michael Jackson products has always been the most exciting for me. Remember how it used to be a CHALLENGE finding his t-shirts, for example? Well, at least it was in the areas I grew up in, lol. Now though, it's very weird seeing him in stores, with these people making money from this tragedy. All I can picture now is MJ novelty stores like Elvis. That will be very sad to me, and my urgency to buy the stuff will not be there.

But regarding people jumping on the MJ train, I know "real [longtime] fans" when I see them. I am never fooled. When I meet someone who supposedly "loves Michael Jackson forever".....I indirectly quiz them. Works every time, lol. I'd say something like: "You love Michael? So do I! I was listening to 'We Are Here To Change The World' on the way here. Isn't that song great? I love Captain EO." And they say: "What? What song is that? And captain who?"

cheesecakequeen said:

I know how you feel, it was like MJ was special, and NOW that everyone is trying act like a fan, it makes you feel like you don't even want to be apart of what these "fake fans" are doing.

Real fans loved him daily and always, and he was something special to us. Now that michael is dead, he is now a "fad" to people who didn't care about him when he was alive. I hear people listening to him non-stop as well. Not only that, i see thug looking guys with MJ ringtones such as Dirty Diana. Its ridiculous. Michael Needed this love and support when he was ALIVE, now he is dead can't even see this stuff. Im very angry about that. It makes me dislike "new fans"

Timmy84 said:

! now that one i've heard before on a bus.

WaterInYourBath said:

We are here to change the World is one of my favorite songs. I love CAPTAIN EO. "Hooter, Hurry up and fix it" That is my movie, i went to Disney world as a kid and that was the only thing i remembered from it But yes its so easy to tell who the true fans are.

rocknrolldave said:

Can I ask you a question?

Why does that bother you so much? why you worried about this?

If the board was flooding with "madonna " threads for example , I wouldn't give a fuck.

You guys worry about such silly things.

cheesecakequeen said:

I know how you feel, it was like MJ was special, and NOW that everyone is trying act like a fan, it makes you feel like you don't even want to be apart of what these "fake fans" are doing.

Real fans loved him daily and always, and he was something special to us. Now that michael is dead, he is now a "fad" to people who didn't care about him when he was alive. I hear people listening to him non-stop as well. Not only that, i see thug looking guys with MJ ringtones such as Dirty Diana. Its ridiculous. Michael Needed this love and support when he was ALIVE, now he is dead can't even see this stuff. Im very angry about that. It makes me dislike "new fans"

Tired of the constant news stories and gossip disguised as real news.

Tired of all the people that jumped on the bandwagon after he left here. (I'm not a fan, BTW)

Tired of all the records that got sold after he died and the people that didn't buy them while he was here.

Tired of some of his fans making excuses.

Tired of all the fake celebrities that wanted to just be seen at his memorial service that didn't know the guy.

Tired of all his supposed friends and some of his family being vultures and selling every story and every picture.

Just the subtitle of being refered to as "The King Of Pop". How can he retain that title when he had HUGE gaps between History, and Invencible?
[Edited 7/20/09 13:18pm]

I am not really tired with people paying attention to him on here, I mean: that is what you get when someone so immensely popular dies rather suddenly.

But what rather annoys is that some people here seem to lose sense of perspective in dealing with his legacy / and about what he really was. IMO he was a great ENTERTAINER, a very, very, very succesfull POP-artist, but:

- Just because he did sell the most albums, doesnt make him the most influential musician ever (I am not going to use the B... word here, i am not.. lol). Britney Spears and Shania Twain, to name a few, sell a lot of records too, does that make them important to the history and evolving of music?

- Just because he brought you spectacular 'live'-shows with lots of dancing, figurants and fireworks doesnt make him the greatest live-musician. I mean: therefore you have to sing live in the first place, your band has to play their instruments, not playback to tapes, and it has to be about the music in the first place (the chemistry between the musicians, the ability to improvise) and not about the equivalent of a Hollywood blockbuster / amusement park attraction being performed on stage.

- Just because he was so popular world-wide and perceived as some semi-god by many gullible people (people are easily 'fooled' when they get their simple entertainment...) doesnt mean you have to hijack threads that are about artistical achievements in the first place. An entertainer is not the same 'species' as an artist.

I dont mind when you enjoy the entertainer MJ, but don't start talking shit about his artistic legacy. When it comes to that its obvious that:
- James Brown, Marvin Gaye, Sly Stone and George Clinton, to name a few, have been far more influential on the sound and development of R&B / funk / Soul then MJ.
- Elvis Presley (rock and roll) and the Beatles (pop and rock) have had a far broader and deeper influence on pop music in general.
- People like Hendrix, Prince, Van Morrison, Bruce Springsteen, Queen and David Bowie, to name a few, were far better live ARTISTS.
- There have been and are hundreds (probably thousands) of artists who don't sell as much albums like MJ, but simply deliver better / more touching / more 'real' music on an artistical level then the entertainer MJ does.

The fact that the gossip press is speaking about you constantly and that people faint when they see you lip-synching on stage, might make you a great 'entertainer', it doesnt automatically make you a great artist.. that simple it is.
[Edited 7/31/09 15:02pm]

Riverpoet31 said:

well that is just simply your opinion.

yeah....

Everyone became an expert on MJ's personal life and artistic legacy obviously.

I swear to god That I skip so many posts on these threads because most of them are ridiculous and outrageous and not worth reading.

I say one thing to those people: Get outside of the U.S Borders and see the infulence of Michael jackson on the entire Globe, there is another world outside the U.S you know , No one will reach on his level Impact-wise...Deal with it...Its over.

I only get tired of it when I come here Other than some J5 playing in a restaurant the weekend it happened, I really don't hear a lot about it. & when the autopsy results hit there's gonna be a whole new wave of reports so get ready. I don't listen to him anymore than I did before he died, & I'll always be tired of the corny/overplayed MJ songs, dead or alive...

First, i am from outside the US.

Second, i see so many people on here, grown ups i assume, threatening MJ as some semi-God, and reacting like sect-followers when anyone dares to criticize their beloved deceased 'leader'.

If anyone is acting ridicolous and outrageous here, it are the ones who don't take any criticism towards Saint Michael, like you.

Its your choice to live in a fairytale world, but simply respect the choice of other people to use their common sense.