Timmy84 said: seeingvoices12 said: Told you to leave the song alone before, didn't I? Well I'm sorry, you can't divorce me from that song. you can have " lady in my lady" ,you divorce "human nature" ..deal? MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: Timmy84 said: Well I'm sorry, you can't divorce me from that song. you can have " lady in my lady" ,you divorce "human nature" ..deal? Lady in my Lady... | |
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Timmy84 said: seeingvoices12 said: you can have " lady in my lady" ,you divorce "human nature" ..deal? Lady in my Lady... what the hell , I didn't even notice that..."lady in my life" " [Edited 7/20/09 16:15pm] MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: Timmy84 said: Lady in my Lady... what the hell , I didn't even notice that..."lady in my life" " [Edited 7/20/09 16:15pm] Yeah I know what you were saying but I didn't bother... | |
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It's interesting to note that,'Thriller' had seven hit singles but only three music videos.He could have made a video for every single but chose not to.Perhaps he wanted the music to stand on its own? | |
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AlexdeParis said: Rinluv said: I was thinkin about this before. Love alot of MJ's video's but the song by itself... meh. I mean Thriller great video, ok song. The same with Beat It.
"Thriller" is not a favorite of mine, but "Beat It" is a brilliant song. Love the guitar solo though Some people think I'm kinda cute
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Timmy84 said: seeingvoices12 said: what the hell , I didn't even notice that..."lady in my life" " [Edited 7/20/09 16:15pm] Yeah I know what you were saying but I didn't bother... LOL . seriously, I don't blame you for loving the track,Its just timeless, and Its my favorite on the album, followed by " lady in my life" ....I love "lady in my life" I wonder why its overlooked by Mj fans ..LOL. MICHAEL JACKSON
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Marrk said: Graycap23 said: I tried get thru Mj's cd the past couple of weekends and something became very obvious. Mj's music does not hold up very well without the videos. My question is, where would Mj be, without his videos and the level he took the video 2?
Well that's your opinion, i never listen to his stuff and associate the song with the videos. Do i think about Iman while listening to Remember The Time? do i hell. The music stands on it's own. | |
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Timmy84 said: AlexdeParis said: "Thriller" is not a favorite of mine, but "Beat It" is a brilliant song. And "Billie Jean" was even more awesome but my favorite MJ track doesn't have a video. "If they say why, why? Tell them that it's human nature Why, why, does they do me that way..." That's what Im talkin about brotha - that's my favorite Micheal song. Some people think I'm kinda cute
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Rinluv said: Timmy84 said: And "Billie Jean" was even more awesome but my favorite MJ track doesn't have a video. "If they say why, why? Tell them that it's human nature Why, why, does they do me that way..." That's what Im talkin about brotha - that's my favorite Micheal song. again..... [Edited 7/20/09 16:29pm] MICHAEL JACKSON
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seeingvoices12 said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I know what you were saying but I didn't bother... LOL . seriously, I don't blame you for loving the track,Its just timeless, and Its my favorite on the album, followed by " lady in my life" ....I love "lady in my life" I wonder why its overlooked by Mj fans ..LOL. I don't know why either. That was one of his best too. I agree. | |
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seeingvoices12 said: Rinluv said: That's what Im talkin about brotha - that's my favorite Micheal song. again..... [Edited 7/20/09 16:29pm] lol I didn't know what you were talkin about until I read your other post. But I love Lady In My Life too so chill. Some people think I'm kinda cute
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Rinluv said: seeingvoices12 said: again..... [Edited 7/20/09 16:29pm] lol I didn't know what you were talkin about until I read your other post. But I love Lady In My Life too so chill. LOL...Its ok MICHAEL JACKSON
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Cinnamon234 said: His music video's are great, but I would still think he was great and love him just as much without them. Michael came from a time and started in the music business when you HAD TO HAVE TALENT to make it, period! There was no MTV or anything when MJ was starting out. It's because of his talent that he made it in the first place.
His music and performances all the way from the Jackson 5 days when the music video wasn't even around or it wasn't a force like it became in the 80's, to later on, still holds . I love all his albums for the record. I can find brilliance in every album of his. He's never dissapointed me musically. I don't even watch his music video's that much to be honest. I do however watch his performances and listen to his music all the time though. Music video's or not, I still think he's amazing and I would still be a huge fan regardless. [Edited 7/20/09 14:51pm] THANK. YOU!...Gray done bumped his head again, Mike made excellent music with his brothers and solo long before he did any videos. Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise. | |
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I'd rank him pretty high without the videos. I mean, until he died, I hadn't SEEN an MJ video since his last one, "You Rock My World" once in 2001, and before that, probably once when I happened to catch "Ghosts" or "Blood On The Dance Floor" in 1997, yet I'd still get on a kick and listen to him a lot every couple years. I've never really cared too much about videos. | |
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errant said: I'd rank him pretty high without the videos. I mean, until he died, I hadn't SEEN an MJ video since his last one, "You Rock My World" once in 2001, and before that, probably once when I happened to catch "Ghosts" or "Blood On The Dance Floor" in 1997, yet I'd still get on a kick and listen to him a lot every couple years. I've never really cared too much about videos.
Yeah I find myself listening to the music more than watching the videos. The videos have actually become secondary when it comes to MJ and that's saying a lot considering how this man DEFINED music videos. [Edited 7/20/09 17:45pm] [Edited 7/20/09 17:45pm] | |
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Michael first video was Goin' Places with his brothers back in 77. Before then, his music was rockin' without videos. His videos were just bonus material. A great song with extras. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: Michael first video was Goin' Places with his brothers back in 77. Before then, his music was rockin' without videos. His videos were just bonus material. A great song with extras.
Yeah, like "Blame It on the Boogie", "Don't Stop" and "Rock With You". Also, music videos were usually to promote the song. MJ decided to make it "mini-films". | |
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well i can say i listen to the thriller album before i even saw any video. I LOVED THAT ALBUM SO MUCH. And when i finally did get to see the videos it blew me away. So i can say his music definitely stands out by itself. | |
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Where would I rank him?... pretty high, even without the vids.
Like a lotta people, I love blasting his tunes in the car - I'd be in trouble if I was playing music videos while I was driving... Also, I remember buying "THRILLER" back in 1983 - the only single that had dropped was "The Girl Is Mine" - no video. By the time the "THRILLER" mini-film came out, the album was already the biggest selling album ever, the mini-film pushed it even further. I bought "BAD" before any music videos had dropped, and so on with each album after that. MJ's music will stand the test of time, "Don't Stop...", Rock WIth You", "Billie Jean" will be played long after we're all gone from this Earth, music videos or not. | |
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Graycap23 said: I tried get thru Mj's cd the past couple of weekends and something became very obvious. Mj's music does not hold up very well without the videos. My question is, where would Mj be, without his videos and the level he took the video 2?
Mid-level star. Nowhere on the Thriller level. His voice is great. His music is catchy. But it's "sing along" music. MJ is a media star--not an artist whose music is to be studied. | |
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Graycap23 said: I tried get thru Mj's cd the past couple of weekends and something became very obvious. Mj's music does not hold up very well without the videos. My question is, where would Mj be, without his videos and the level he took the video 2?
Depends on how you feel about the music. It's subjective. I was more into music than his videos, and still am. That maybe why I have a relatively limited number of Michael Jackson tracks, But I enjoy the songs I have as songs, not as videos. I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think. | |
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Imago said: His voice is great. His music is catchy. But it's "sing along" music.MJ is a media star--not an artist whose music is to be studied.
He was a pop artist and there's nothing wrong with that He didn't need to be Miles Davis. | |
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paisleypark4 said: SoulAlive said: Videos enhance the music,but I don't really think of the videos when I'm listening to his music."Billie Jean" is an incredible song even if it didn't have a video.:
WHO ARE YOU?? lol,what I meant to say was: "Billie Jean" would still be an incredible song EVEN if there was no video for it | |
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NDRU said: I think Off the Wall shows that he's great even without videos.
Yes I know there are videos to Rock With You & Don't Stop, but they are not what carried the album. It's the quality of the music. Very good point.'Off The Wall' is an amazing album that wasn't really propelled by its videos.The music stands on its own. | |
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Timmy84 said: dreamfactory313 said: A song like Liberian Girl stands on its own. I don't even think about it's video. The song and video have absolutely NOTHING to do with one another.
And the video actually reeked to me. I agree.That video is HORRIBLE.Why waste a beautiful song on a silly video that features a bunch of his celeb pals? This is one thing that has always irritated me about Michael.He always had this need to "show off" his celebrity pals,as if to say "Look who I got in MY video!",lol. | |
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SoulAlive said: Timmy84 said: And the video actually reeked to me. I agree.That video is HORRIBLE.Why waste a beautiful song on a silly video that features a bunch of his celeb pals? This is one thing that has always irritated me about Michael.He always had this need to "show off" his celebrity pals,as if to say "Look who I got in MY video!",lol. I think the video is quite clever, actually. I could certainly imagine all of his celebrity pals begging him to be in a video; he killed like 53 birds with one stone! "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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AlexdeParis said: SoulAlive said: I agree.That video is HORRIBLE.Why waste a beautiful song on a silly video that features a bunch of his celeb pals? This is one thing that has always irritated me about Michael.He always had this need to "show off" his celebrity pals,as if to say "Look who I got in MY video!",lol. I think the video is quite clever, actually. I could certainly imagine all of his celebrity pals begging him to be in a video; he killed like 53 birds with one stone! The concept is clever,but not with that song "Liberian Girl" is a gorgeous song.....a perfect love song that he could have filmed in Africa.He should have done the celebrity-fest with another song. | |
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Well think of it this way - people are going out to buy his music right now - not his DVDs of music videos. It's the music first and foremost people are connecting to.
For me I always hear the music - rarely do I see the video when I listen to it. It's the beats, the layering of sounds, the backing vocals, the turn of phrase of the lyric. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Imago said: Graycap23 said: I tried get thru Mj's cd the past couple of weekends and something became very obvious. Mj's music does not hold up very well without the videos. My question is, where would Mj be, without his videos and the level he took the video 2?
Mid-level star. Nowhere on the Thriller level. His voice is great. His music is catchy. But it's "sing along" music. MJ is a media star--not an artist whose music is to be studied. Funny you say that because I've read about his music being studied in music theory classes. His work is also used as examples in music production classes I know teachers who used Don't Stop Til You Get Enough, Billie Jean, and other songs talked about in music classes. and R&B and hip hop producers always go back to his music and try to understand the production and his approach...so yeah, his music can be studied "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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