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Jackson triumphed over media Finally, the dust has settled over the death and burial of Michael Jackson. Throughout his career, Jackson fought two battles; one with himself, the other with general societal norms. The battle within himself was an attempt to discover the childhood denied to him by his father’s ruthless ambition combined with his becoming a celebrity at a tender age. It led him to persistent attempts to live his childhood as an adult by having an obsessive love for the company of young children. This battle within inevitably led Jackson to the second one; the battle against general societal norms and expectations! Humans are social beings and society demands that people conform to certain general norms: you are born, you grow, acquire skills, you get a job, find a husband or wife, bear children, raise them up, visit friends and relatives, belong to some religious faith or social club etc. While most people find it easy to meet these societal expectations, a few don’t. However, those who cannot meet society’s unrealistic demands upon them try to fit at considerable cost. Often, they become social psychopaths. A gay man is forced into a marriage with a woman. This makes him live an unhappy and false sex life. His sexual frustrations may lead him to becoming a savage wife beater. Societal demands for fidelity and faithfulness can lead a woman with an over developed appetite for sexual variety to debilitating psychological disorders. Jackson shared this deviant personality. Many of his actions tended to deviate from the norm. For example, he did not like his nose. So he kept altering it through plastic surgery. The more he did it, the more he looked comical. Society expected him to remain looking the same. So the media (in many ways a representative of society’s values – sometimes in an irresponsible way) made an issue out of it. They sliced and diced every conceivable reason he altered his nose and made careers and money off this speculation. So what if he changed his nose? What did that have to do with anything? Did it harm anyone else? I tried to find reason why I should be remotely concerned about a man changing his nose and could not find any. Rather than act as a break on societal passions, the media became the cheerleaders of this injustice. One could say that Jackson was a celebrity, made a living from the fact that people were interested in his person and personality and therefore he cannot enjoy the same levels of privacy as we ordinary mortals. But this reasoning is flawed; as journalists, our concern with the private actions of public figures should be limited to how such actions impact on their public duties. I believe that even celebrities should enjoy this level of protection; what effect did his changing of his nose have on his music? Possibly the most devastating aspect of Michael Jackson was his obsession with children. He invited them in large numbers at his Neverland ranch, ate with them, played with them and even on occasion shared his bed with many of them. Society in the western world (it is really not a big issue in Africa) is against an old man sharing a bed with boys. Often, such men are child predators. But this does not make every old man who shares a bed with a boy a molester. Jackson’s obsession with children was weird, yes. But equally, the evidence of his innocence on charges of child molestation was overwhelming. Hundreds of children stayed at his ranch and tens of them shared his bed. Had he molested a significant number of them, they would have exposed him in large numbers. Instead, over a period of 25 years, only two accused him of molestation and in both cases they were under pressure from their parents to make money off him. But the media covered only the scandalous part of these allegations. When they were exposed as false, it did not give similar prominence to the truths. Even when people like the actor Macaulay Culkin (of Home Alone fame) who shared a bed with Jackson for years testified in his favour, the media remained with the claim of Jackson as a child molester. So they kicked him, hounded him and finally drove him to his death. But the world has many ways of testifying to the truths. When Jordie Chandler (13 years in 1992) accused Jackson of molesting him, the police asked how. The boy claimed the two used to indulge in mutual masturbation and oral sex. He was then asked to describe Jackson’s penis – was it circumcised? He had a 50% chance of getting it right; he said yes. When police undressed Jackson, he was not. In spite of this, Jackson settled with Chandler out of court paying the young man (actually his greedy father) US$ 22m. When asked why, Jackson said he had had enough of the media coverage. But allegations of child molestation were devastating on Jackson and drove him into taking painkillers and sleeping drugs. The more he did so, the worse his addiction became until it drove him to his death. It is possible that had the media been balanced, fair, truthful and accurate, Jackson would not have died the way he did and at the time he did. Instead, the media turned themselves into his executioners. It is fair to say that Jackson brought this unto himself. He could easily have avoided accusations of child molestation by simply not letting little boys sleep in his bed. Yet following his story, one gets convinced that he had a strong urge to help children; to give without asking for anything in return. There was overwhelming evidence of his innocence that the media chose to ignore. He may have given the media the rope; that does not justify the media using it to hang an innocent man. The outpouring of emotion across the world over his death shows that the media can pound someone, but the public are better judges. In his death, Jackson proved that great aspect of human kind -the ability to see beyond false claims. "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mimi07 said: http://www.independent.co...over-media
Jackson triumphed over media Finally, the dust has settled over the death and burial of Michael Jackson.  oh really? when was this article written? next february?  | |
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bboy87 said: WaterInYourBath said: Steven Hoefflin.  ....  that article has a couple of contradictions I felt like that before I read the article, lol. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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mimi07 said: i forgot about these pictures, i personally just think they were friends
[Edited 7/22/09 21:59pm]  Much like the relationships of Macaulay Culkin and Emmanuel Lewis, who reportedly took Michael's death HARD when he heard about it. | |
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errant said: mimi07 said: http://www.independent.co...over-media
Jackson triumphed over media Finally, the dust has settled over the death and burial of Michael Jackson. oh really? when was this article written? next february? Yes. Dust settled my ass and he isn't buried yet. Damn people write articles and you can already tell the holes! | |
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purplesweat said: Countthedays said: 
Ugh, how dare they. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Timmy84 said: errant said: oh really? when was this article written? next february? Yes. Dust settled my ass and he isn't buried yet. Damn people write articles and you can already tell the holes! i know, i just ignore that first line "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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mimi07 said: [img]
That's my dream man right there.  ....  "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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Timmy84 said: Much like the relationships of Macaulay Culkin and Emmanuel Lewis, who reportedly took Michael's death HARD when he heard about it.
 @ Michael's profile."You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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mimi07 said: Timmy84 said: Yes. Dust settled my ass and he isn't buried yet. Damn people write articles and you can already tell the holes! i know, i just ignore that first line Yeah, lol. Because you know non-fans will call on it.  | |
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WaterInYourBath said: mimi07 said: [img]
That's my dream man right there. .... I like his profile there.  | |
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WaterInYourBath said: Timmy84 said: Much like the relationships of Macaulay Culkin and Emmanuel Lewis, who reportedly took Michael's death HARD when he heard about it.
@ Michael's profile.I'm sorry but... | |
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DesireeNevermind said: WaterInYourBath said:
@ Michael's profile.I'm sorry but... they were play fighting
Michael was like Emmanuel and his brother's big brother "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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mimi07 said: http://www.independent.co...over-media
Jackson triumphed over media Finally, the dust has settled over the death and burial of Michael Jackson. Throughout his career, Jackson fought two battles; one with himself, the other with general societal norms. The battle within himself was an attempt to discover the childhood denied to him by his father’s ruthless ambition combined with his becoming a celebrity at a tender age. It led him to persistent attempts to live his childhood as an adult by having an obsessive love for the company of young children. This battle within inevitably led Jackson to the second one; the battle against general societal norms and expectations! Humans are social beings and society demands that people conform to certain general norms: you are born, you grow, acquire skills, you get a job, find a husband or wife, bear children, raise them up, visit friends and relatives, belong to some religious faith or social club etc. While most people find it easy to meet these societal expectations, a few don’t. However, those who cannot meet society’s unrealistic demands upon them try to fit at considerable cost. Often, they become social psychopaths. A gay man is forced into a marriage with a woman. This makes him live an unhappy and false sex life. His sexual frustrations may lead him to becoming a savage wife beater. Societal demands for fidelity and faithfulness can lead a woman with an over developed appetite for sexual variety to debilitating psychological disorders. Jackson shared this deviant personality. Many of his actions tended to deviate from the norm. For example, he did not like his nose. So he kept altering it through plastic surgery. The more he did it, the more he looked comical. Society expected him to remain looking the same. So the media (in many ways a representative of society’s values – sometimes in an irresponsible way) made an issue out of it. They sliced and diced every conceivable reason he altered his nose and made careers and money off this speculation. So what if he changed his nose? What did that have to do with anything? Did it harm anyone else? I tried to find reason why I should be remotely concerned about a man changing his nose and could not find any. Rather than act as a break on societal passions, the media became the cheerleaders of this injustice. One could say that Jackson was a celebrity, made a living from the fact that people were interested in his person and personality and therefore he cannot enjoy the same levels of privacy as we ordinary mortals. But this reasoning is flawed; as journalists, our concern with the private actions of public figures should be limited to how such actions impact on their public duties. I believe that even celebrities should enjoy this level of protection; what effect did his changing of his nose have on his music? Possibly the most devastating aspect of Michael Jackson was his obsession with children. He invited them in large numbers at his Neverland ranch, ate with them, played with them and even on occasion shared his bed with many of them. Society in the western world (it is really not a big issue in Africa) is against an old man sharing a bed with boys. Often, such men are child predators. But this does not make every old man who shares a bed with a boy a molester. Jackson’s obsession with children was weird, yes. But equally, the evidence of his innocence on charges of child molestation was overwhelming. Hundreds of children stayed at his ranch and tens of them shared his bed. Had he molested a significant number of them, they would have exposed him in large numbers. Instead, over a period of 25 years, only two accused him of molestation and in both cases they were under pressure from their parents to make money off him. But the media covered only the scandalous part of these allegations. When they were exposed as false, it did not give similar prominence to the truths. Even when people like the actor Macaulay Culkin (of Home Alone fame) who shared a bed with Jackson for years testified in his favour, the media remained with the claim of Jackson as a child molester. So they kicked him, hounded him and finally drove him to his death. But the world has many ways of testifying to the truths. When Jordie Chandler (13 years in 1992) accused Jackson of molesting him, the police asked how. The boy claimed the two used to indulge in mutual masturbation and oral sex. He was then asked to describe Jackson’s penis – was it circumcised? He had a 50% chance of getting it right; he said yes. When police undressed Jackson, he was not. In spite of this, Jackson settled with Chandler out of court paying the young man (actually his greedy father) US$ 22m. When asked why, Jackson said he had had enough of the media coverage. But allegations of child molestation were devastating on Jackson and drove him into taking painkillers and sleeping drugs. The more he did so, the worse his addiction became until it drove him to his death. It is possible that had the media been balanced, fair, truthful and accurate, Jackson would not have died the way he did and at the time he did. Instead, the media turned themselves into his executioners. It is fair to say that Jackson brought this unto himself. He could easily have avoided accusations of child molestation by simply not letting little boys sleep in his bed. Yet following his story, one gets convinced that he had a strong urge to help children; to give without asking for anything in return. There was overwhelming evidence of his innocence that the media chose to ignore. He may have given the media the rope; that does not justify the media using it to hang an innocent man. The outpouring of emotion across the world over his death shows that the media can pound someone, but the public are better judges. In his death, Jackson proved that great aspect of human kind -the ability to see beyond false claims. Who ever wrote this obviously has no idea how the mind of a child molester functions. Pedophiles don't just walk down the street willy nilly and molest kids. Pedophilia is more bout the issue of trust with children and how that bond is formed and where it goes from there. Just cause the dude had thousands of kids invited to Neverland and didn't molest them in the roller coaster line in broad daylight doesn't mean he didn't in the dark locked bedroom he shared with certain others. I'm not saying he did or didn't, cause I don't know, I'm saying that pedophilia is a strange dance of trust and secrets between the perp and the victim. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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I don't get why people always say heaps of children shared his bed. Most of the time, he said he slept on the floor. I think the only time I heard him talking about sleeping IN the bed with children was with Macaulay Caulkin and some of his siblings, and Caulkin has said countless times he never felt unsafe there and even defended him in court.
I could be wrong maybe he did say it about other kids but that's the only one I've ever heard besides that Gavin kid insisting MJ sleep in the bed with him and his brother... | |
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Timmy84 said: mimi07 said: i forgot about these pictures, i personally just think they were friends
[Edited 7/22/09 21:59pm] Much like the relationships of Macaulay Culkin and Emmanuel Lewis, who reportedly took Michael's death HARD when he heard about it.Yeah,but Macaulay Culkin,and Emmanuel Lewis aren't claiming that Michael is their father. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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mimi07 said: http://www.independent.co...over-media
Jackson triumphed over media Finally, the dust has settled over the death and burial of Michael Jackson. Throughout his career, Jackson fought two battles; one with himself, the other with general societal norms. The battle within himself was an attempt to discover the childhood denied to him by his father’s ruthless ambition combined with his becoming a celebrity at a tender age. It led him to persistent attempts to live his childhood as an adult by having an obsessive love for the company of young children. This battle within inevitably led Jackson to the second one; the battle against general societal norms and expectations! Humans are social beings and society demands that people conform to certain general norms: you are born, you grow, acquire skills, you get a job, find a husband or wife, bear children, raise them up, visit friends and relatives, belong to some religious faith or social club etc. While most people find it easy to meet these societal expectations, a few don’t. However, those who cannot meet society’s unrealistic demands upon them try to fit at considerable cost. Often, they become social psychopaths. A gay man is forced into a marriage with a woman. This makes him live an unhappy and false sex life. His sexual frustrations may lead him to becoming a savage wife beater. Societal demands for fidelity and faithfulness can lead a woman with an over developed appetite for sexual variety to debilitating psychological disorders. Jackson shared this deviant personality. Many of his actions tended to deviate from the norm. For example, he did not like his nose. So he kept altering it through plastic surgery. The more he did it, the more he looked comical. Society expected him to remain looking the same. So the media (in many ways a representative of society’s values – sometimes in an irresponsible way) made an issue out of it. They sliced and diced every conceivable reason he altered his nose and made careers and money off this speculation. So what if he changed his nose? What did that have to do with anything? Did it harm anyone else? I tried to find reason why I should be remotely concerned about a man changing his nose and could not find any. Rather than act as a break on societal passions, the media became the cheerleaders of this injustice. One could say that Jackson was a celebrity, made a living from the fact that people were interested in his person and personality and therefore he cannot enjoy the same levels of privacy as we ordinary mortals. But this reasoning is flawed; as journalists, our concern with the private actions of public figures should be limited to how such actions impact on their public duties. I believe that even celebrities should enjoy this level of protection; what effect did his changing of his nose have on his music? Possibly the most devastating aspect of Michael Jackson was his obsession with children. He invited them in large numbers at his Neverland ranch, ate with them, played with them and even on occasion shared his bed with many of them. Society in the western world (it is really not a big issue in Africa) is against an old man sharing a bed with boys. Often, such men are child predators. But this does not make every old man who shares a bed with a boy a molester. Jackson’s obsession with children was weird, yes. But equally, the evidence of his innocence on charges of child molestation was overwhelming. Hundreds of children stayed at his ranch and tens of them shared his bed. Had he molested a significant number of them, they would have exposed him in large numbers. Instead, over a period of 25 years, only two accused him of molestation and in both cases they were under pressure from their parents to make money off him. But the media covered only the scandalous part of these allegations. When they were exposed as false, it did not give similar prominence to the truths. Even when people like the actor Macaulay Culkin (of Home Alone fame) who shared a bed with Jackson for years testified in his favour, the media remained with the claim of Jackson as a child molester. So they kicked him, hounded him and finally drove him to his death. But the world has many ways of testifying to the truths. When Jordie Chandler (13 years in 1992) accused Jackson of molesting him, the police asked how. The boy claimed the two used to indulge in mutual masturbation and oral sex. He was then asked to describe Jackson’s penis – was it circumcised? He had a 50% chance of getting it right; he said yes. When police undressed Jackson, he was not. In spite of this, Jackson settled with Chandler out of court paying the young man (actually his greedy father) US$ 22m. When asked why, Jackson said he had had enough of the media coverage. But allegations of child molestation were devastating on Jackson and drove him into taking painkillers and sleeping drugs. The more he did so, the worse his addiction became until it drove him to his death. It is possible that had the media been balanced, fair, truthful and accurate, Jackson would not have died the way he did and at the time he did. Instead, the media turned themselves into his executioners. It is fair to say that Jackson brought this unto himself. He could easily have avoided accusations of child molestation by simply not letting little boys sleep in his bed. Yet following his story, one gets convinced that he had a strong urge to help children; to give without asking for anything in return. There was overwhelming evidence of his innocence that the media chose to ignore. He may have given the media the rope; that does not justify the media using it to hang an innocent man. The outpouring of emotion across the world over his death shows that the media can pound someone, but the public are better judges. In his death, Jackson proved that great aspect of human kind -the ability to see beyond false claims. well I did'nt know that. Very good article!  Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Why didnt Michael just get some therapy for having such a fucked up childhood? Why the unhealthy obsession with children and having them sleep over. I understand he was trying to help but it ended up only helping to kill him. Why? Why? Why? | |
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EmeraldSkies said: mimi07 said: http://www.independent.co...over-media
Jackson triumphed over media Finally, the dust has settled over the death and burial of Michael Jackson. Throughout his career, Jackson fought two battles; one with himself, the other with general societal norms. The battle within himself was an attempt to discover the childhood denied to him by his father’s ruthless ambition combined with his becoming a celebrity at a tender age. It led him to persistent attempts to live his childhood as an adult by having an obsessive love for the company of young children. This battle within inevitably led Jackson to the second one; the battle against general societal norms and expectations! Humans are social beings and society demands that people conform to certain general norms: you are born, you grow, acquire skills, you get a job, find a husband or wife, bear children, raise them up, visit friends and relatives, belong to some religious faith or social club etc. While most people find it easy to meet these societal expectations, a few don’t. However, those who cannot meet society’s unrealistic demands upon them try to fit at considerable cost. Often, they become social psychopaths. A gay man is forced into a marriage with a woman. This makes him live an unhappy and false sex life. His sexual frustrations may lead him to becoming a savage wife beater. Societal demands for fidelity and faithfulness can lead a woman with an over developed appetite for sexual variety to debilitating psychological disorders. Jackson shared this deviant personality. Many of his actions tended to deviate from the norm. For example, he did not like his nose. So he kept altering it through plastic surgery. The more he did it, the more he looked comical. Society expected him to remain looking the same. So the media (in many ways a representative of society’s values – sometimes in an irresponsible way) made an issue out of it. They sliced and diced every conceivable reason he altered his nose and made careers and money off this speculation. So what if he changed his nose? What did that have to do with anything? Did it harm anyone else? I tried to find reason why I should be remotely concerned about a man changing his nose and could not find any. Rather than act as a break on societal passions, the media became the cheerleaders of this injustice. One could say that Jackson was a celebrity, made a living from the fact that people were interested in his person and personality and therefore he cannot enjoy the same levels of privacy as we ordinary mortals. But this reasoning is flawed; as journalists, our concern with the private actions of public figures should be limited to how such actions impact on their public duties. I believe that even celebrities should enjoy this level of protection; what effect did his changing of his nose have on his music? Possibly the most devastating aspect of Michael Jackson was his obsession with children. He invited them in large numbers at his Neverland ranch, ate with them, played with them and even on occasion shared his bed with many of them. Society in the western world (it is really not a big issue in Africa) is against an old man sharing a bed with boys. Often, such men are child predators. But this does not make every old man who shares a bed with a boy a molester. Jackson’s obsession with children was weird, yes. But equally, the evidence of his innocence on charges of child molestation was overwhelming. Hundreds of children stayed at his ranch and tens of them shared his bed. Had he molested a significant number of them, they would have exposed him in large numbers. Instead, over a period of 25 years, only two accused him of molestation and in both cases they were under pressure from their parents to make money off him. But the media covered only the scandalous part of these allegations. When they were exposed as false, it did not give similar prominence to the truths. Even when people like the actor Macaulay Culkin (of Home Alone fame) who shared a bed with Jackson for years testified in his favour, the media remained with the claim of Jackson as a child molester. So they kicked him, hounded him and finally drove him to his death. But the world has many ways of testifying to the truths. When Jordie Chandler (13 years in 1992) accused Jackson of molesting him, the police asked how. The boy claimed the two used to indulge in mutual masturbation and oral sex. He was then asked to describe Jackson’s penis – was it circumcised? He had a 50% chance of getting it right; he said yes. When police undressed Jackson, he was not. In spite of this, Jackson settled with Chandler out of court paying the young man (actually his greedy father) US$ 22m. When asked why, Jackson said he had had enough of the media coverage. But allegations of child molestation were devastating on Jackson and drove him into taking painkillers and sleeping drugs. The more he did so, the worse his addiction became until it drove him to his death. It is possible that had the media been balanced, fair, truthful and accurate, Jackson would not have died the way he did and at the time he did. Instead, the media turned themselves into his executioners. It is fair to say that Jackson brought this unto himself. He could easily have avoided accusations of child molestation by simply not letting little boys sleep in his bed. Yet following his story, one gets convinced that he had a strong urge to help children; to give without asking for anything in return. There was overwhelming evidence of his innocence that the media chose to ignore. He may have given the media the rope; that does not justify the media using it to hang an innocent man. The outpouring of emotion across the world over his death shows that the media can pound someone, but the public are better judges. In his death, Jackson proved that great aspect of human kind -the ability to see beyond false claims. well I did'nt know that. Very good article! on the other hand, does a 13 year old boy really know the difference between what a circumcised and uncircumcised penis looks like, or be able to tell you the difference? just sayin'... | |
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dreamfactory313 said: Why didnt Michael just get some therapy for having such a fucked up childhood? Why the unhealthy obsession with children and having them sleep over. I understand he was trying to help but it ended up only helping to kill him. Why? Why? Why?
Probably scared a therapist would just sell his story. | |
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dreamfactory313 said: Why didnt Michael just get some therapy for having such a fucked up childhood? Why the unhealthy obsession with children and having them sleep over. I understand he was trying to help but it ended up only helping to kill him. Why? Why? Why?
Because MJ was successfully able to surround himself with enablers from really the late 70's. Once the cycle is set in motion it just keeps spinning. Ego takes over and lets be honest a world of fantasy is created and needs to be maintained at all cost. Someone who tries and chips away at the illusion is shown the door. When all is said and done Michael did this to himself. When and IF he hit rock bottom it was too late. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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I remember around 2003 I think, there was a "Law And Order: SVU" episode about the Chandler case. They had the main character looking and acting like MJ (except with a different name and deep voice, lol), and his place was called "Treasure Land," if I'm not mistaken, and always filled with children.  They made him look really silly. During the show, they showed how "Michael" was arrested and strip searched, and the boy's description did not match. In the end he was found innocent, but just like several of these current media people, Mariska Hargitay's character didn't agree with the jury.  The article above reminded me of this for some reason."You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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WaterInYourBath said: I remember around 2003 I think, there was a "Law And Order: SVU" episode about the Chandler case. They had the main character looking and acting like MJ (except with a different name and deep voice, lol), and his place was called "Treasure Land," if I'm not mistaken, and always filled with children.
They made him look really silly. During the show, they showed how "Michael" was arrested and strip searched, and the boy's description did not match. In the end he was found innocent, but just like several of these current media people, Mariska Hargitay's character didn't agree with the jury. The article above reminded me of this for some reason.I remember that episode, there's no doubt it was meant to be MJ they were portraying. They did an episode like that one except about Britney Spears, too. She had the white rapper husband, pop career, she hurt her babies somehow (Britney never did that but hey, it's tv), and the actress who played her was a spitting image of Britney. | |
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errant said: EmeraldSkies said: well I did'nt know that. Very good article! on the other hand, does a 13 year old boy really know the difference between what a circumcised and uncircumcised penis looks like, or be able to tell you the difference? just sayin'... My nephews are both uncircumsized,and they know it,so I do think that a 13 year old boy would know the difference. [Edited 7/22/09 23:49pm] Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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purplesweat said: WaterInYourBath said: I remember around 2003 I think, there was a "Law And Order: SVU" episode about the Chandler case. They had the main character looking and acting like MJ (except with a different name and deep voice, lol), and his place was called "Treasure Land," if I'm not mistaken, and always filled with children.
They made him look really silly. During the show, they showed how "Michael" was arrested and strip searched, and the boy's description did not match. In the end he was found innocent, but just like several of these current media people, Mariska Hargitay's character didn't agree with the jury. The article above reminded me of this for some reason.I remember that episode, there's no doubt it was meant to be MJ they were portraying. They did an episode like that one except about Britney Spears, too. She had the white rapper husband, pop career, she hurt her babies somehow (Britney never did that but hey, it's tv), and the actress who played her was a spitting image of Britney. Yeah I remeber the Michael one. I couldnt stop rolling my eyes at it. I can only imagine how stupid the Britney one would of been. I feel so sorry for both of them if they saw the episodes | |
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EmeraldSkies said: errant said: on the other hand, does a 13 year old boy really know the difference between what a circumcised and uncircumcised penis looks like, or be able to tell you the difference? just sayin'... My nephews are both uncircumsized,and they know it,so I do think that a 13 year old boy would know the difference. [Edited 7/22/09 23:49pm] kids start to learn about their bodies in school around 5th grade...well i did so i assume a 13 year old should know the difference [Edited 7/22/09 23:57pm] "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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Two people who I always wanted to meet... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said:
Two people who I always wanted to meet... Two men who got into show business way too young, became successful at young ages and died too young. | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said:
Two people who I always wanted to meet... Two men who got into show business way too young, became successful at young ages and died too young. you think it's possible that the reason he was taking certain medication was for the lupus he had? Cardiac Arrest is something that people with lupus die from around age 50 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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