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Jermaine Jackson Continues Plight to Bury Brother at Neverland Ranch Link July 21, 2009 Jermaine Jackson, 54, said the family is still split over where the star should laid to rest following his death last month. Relatives are torn between burying the singer at his Neverland ranch near Santa Barbara, California, or in a public graveyard in Los Angeles. Other family members have argued against burying Jackson, 50, at Neverland, claiming that he never wanted to return to theme park ranch because he felt it had been tainted by the child abuse allegations levelled against him. Jermaine commented: "Michael really achieved that Disneyland wonderment feeling at Neverland, it was his creation. "Any problems you had when you went there would go away. That's why I think it should be his final resting place. "I'm totally against the idea of a public cemetery. He's done so much to make the world special and he needs to be somewhere special. "He should be somewhere where it's safe and where he isn't sharing the ground with other people who are not good human beings. "At those places they bury people who have done bad things in their life. Why should he be in the company of these bad people?" He added that a Neverland burial would make it easier for the family to handle security issues. The final say is thought to come down to Jackson's parents. If the Neverland burial goes ahead, it is likely to turn the 2,500-acre estate into a Graceland-style memorial for fans to visit. | |
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NastradumasKid said: Timmy84 said: I just think there's a lot of people LYING and making up shit. If Michael's autopsy reveals he did die of cardiac arrest and died of a heart attack with NO Diprivan in his system, then what they're gonna say? Exactly! What are they going say? What the hell is the point? And you're right people are just lying and fabricating crap that doesn't even seem validated, in my opinion. As for Joe, he's just trying to get publicity out of his son's death while making a fool of himself, especially last night  . But, on the real, this situation itself is getting out of hand. I just hope the other Jacksons get there peace soon  especially LaToya, I think I actually feel sorry fo her.You're not lying. I worry about that girl sometimes.  | |
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Whoever posted that Memorial program in PDF...damn, I am in tears again.
The link to read it online was posted in this thread some pages back
I´ve found it, thanks. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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CalhounSq said: Timmy84 said: Michael Jackson TV special falls apart
01:43 PM PT, Jul 21 2009 Frenzied international interest in all things Michael Jackson notwithstanding, it appears there won't be a TV special this fall. AEG Live, the promoter behind Jackson's 50 "This Is It" comeback concerts in London, has been negotiating for several days with movie studios for the film rights to the concert rehearsal footage as well as broadcast rights to a tie-in television special. Although NBC was interested in the project as recently as Monday, and other networks showed interest last week, all of the networks balked over AEG’s $20-million price tag for a show that would not include any new or exclusive footage of Jackson performing, several network sources said. Originally, AEG had tried to sell the special to air Aug. 29 -- Michael Jackson's birthday -- which falls on a Saturday. But logistical problems -- which include Saturday being the lowest-rated night of the week for TV -- compelled AEG to stipulate that networks program the special in September when TV viewers return to their couches in high numbers, according to a source who spoke on condition of anonymity because they are not authorized to speak on the matter. Some TV networks also feared that the TV special would be too similar in content to the documentary film that will be made out of the rehearsal footage. Over the weekend, Sony Pictures emerged as the front runner for the "This Is It" footage and the film project. An announcement about that film deal is expected today, the source said. The movie would be directed by choreographer Kenny Ortega ("High School Musical"), who had been working with Jackson as the director of the "This Is It" tour. The film would be released in October. If AEG had gotten its way, the TV special also would have been directed by Ortega The plans were for a superstar ensemble that could have included Janet Jackson, Justin Timberlake and will.i.am performing Jackson's hits using the costumes, choreography, and special-effects-driven illusions engineered for the singer's comeback tour. But no footage of the King of Pop. "And the cost of that thing is $20 million? With no Michael Jackson? Ha!" said one network source who requested anonymity. AEG did not immediately return calls for comment. -- Maria Elena Fernandez and Chris Lee Is it just me, or is this whole thing creepy as fuck?  Not only creepy, but the speculations seem far fetched in some places. I can't picture Timberlake sharing a stage with Janet to rip off of her brother's legacy after the way the superbowl fiasco went down. In most interviews the very mention of his name gets a really stern look from her....stern as in she still looks like she wants to kick this mothafucka's ass. It's just a guess, but I can't see him coming within 10 feet of anything officially connected to Michael by family sanction for a minute... | |
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Ottensen said: CalhounSq said: Is it just me, or is this whole thing creepy as fuck? Not only creepy, but the speculations seem far fetched in some places. I can't picture Timberlake sharing a stage with Janet to rip off of her brother's legacy after the way the superbowl fiasco went down. In most interviews the very mention of his name gets a really stern look from her....stern as in she still looks like she wants to kick this mothafucka's ass. It's just a guess, but I can't see him coming within 10 feet of anything officially connected to Michael by family sanction for a minute... Plus Janet, I just can't see, getting involved in anything Jacksons anymore as far as professional matters go. I doubt she would've agreed to it nor would she have agreed to do a memorial concert for him. She rather mourn him in private and right now she's trying to move on. | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: Exactly! What are they going say? What the hell is the point? And you're right people are just lying and fabricating crap that doesn't even seem validated, in my opinion. As for Joe, he's just trying to get publicity out of his son's death while making a fool of himself, especially last night . But, on the real, this situation itself is getting out of hand. I just hope the other Jacksons get there peace soon especially LaToya, I think I actually feel sorry fo her.You're not lying. I worry about that girl sometimes. Yep. And you see why she acts out right? Because she wants attention that why. Man, why do I get the feel that she'll be next in line?  I'm not trying to wish death on her or anything, I'm just saying eventually she's gonna snap. | |
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NastradumasKid said: Timmy84 said: You're not lying. I worry about that girl sometimes. Yep. And you see why she acts out right? Because she wants attention that why. Man, why do I get the feel that she'll be next in line? I'm not trying to wish death on her or anything, I'm just saying eventually she's gonna snap.The last picture of her posted, her face looks gone and I'm not talking about physically either.  | |
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Timmy84 said: jamgirl said: Hmm. We'll see For real. But you know I'm not shocked that his death became as mysterious as his life. MJ probably sayin 'Keep guess mofo's.....aaahh wrong guess...try again!" Razzle Dazzle em!  Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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jamgirl said: Timmy84 said: For real. But you know I'm not shocked that his death became as mysterious as his life. MJ probably sayin 'Keep guess mofo's.....aaahh wrong guess...try again!" Razzle Dazzle em! I agree!  | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: Exactly! What are they going say? What the hell is the point? And you're right people are just lying and fabricating crap that doesn't even seem validated, in my opinion. As for Joe, he's just trying to get publicity out of his son's death while making a fool of himself, especially last night . But, on the real, this situation itself is getting out of hand. I just hope the other Jacksons get there peace soon especially LaToya, I think I actually feel sorry fo her.You're not lying. I worry about that girl sometimes. La Toya has some ish to deal wit, esp from Jack Gordon says. I hope La Toya gets her peace. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: Yep. And you see why she acts out right? Because she wants attention that why. Man, why do I get the feel that she'll be next in line? I'm not trying to wish death on her or anything, I'm just saying eventually she's gonna snap.The last picture of her posted, her face looks gone and I'm not talking about physically either. I saw it, not a good look at all. I think her mental state is gonna kill her. Question Timmy, have you ever seen the MJ documentary with Martin Bashir? If so, how did you feel about it? | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: Yep. And you see why she acts out right? Because she wants attention that why. Man, why do I get the feel that she'll be next in line? I'm not trying to wish death on her or anything, I'm just saying eventually she's gonna snap.The last picture of her posted, her face looks gone and I'm not talking about physically either. I feel ya on that one Timmy. La Toya...  Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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MJ must be having the time of his life in heaven.
He doesn't have to worry about no crap anymore on planet Earth. | |
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Priscilla Presley on Michael Jackson's Death "I'm in shock, as I know everyone must be. What a tragic loss. My heartfelt thoughts are with his family at this very difficult time." http://www.etonline.com/n...index.html | |
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NastradumasKid said: Timmy84 said: The last picture of her posted, her face looks gone and I'm not talking about physically either. I saw it, not a good look at all. I think her mental state is gonna kill her. Question Timmy, have you ever seen the MJ documentary with Martin Bashir? If so, how did you feel about it?That documentary was a mess especially considering MJ's version of it. The last bits of it where MJ grieves about the family structure had me almost in tears. Take Two really showed Bashit to be a prick. He used MJ. | |
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suga10 said: MJ must be having the time of his life in heaven.
He doesn't have to worry about no crap anymore on planet Earth. True Dat. Right now he would been stressing to get show 50 shows and having the world call him lame. Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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suga10 said: MJ must be having the time of his life in heaven.
He doesn't have to worry about no crap anymore on planet Earth. You're right. He's seating back relaxing with Jesus  . I;m glad he doesn't have to suffer anymore. BTW, do you think he looks like he did before the surgery and illnesses? | |
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suga10 said: MJ must be having the time of his life in heaven.
He doesn't have to worry about no crap anymore on planet Earth. That's the good thing about death, when you go, all that shit you dealt with in Earth is gone for good.  | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: I saw it, not a good look at all. I think her mental state is gonna kill her. Question Timmy, have you ever seen the MJ documentary with Martin Bashir? If so, how did you feel about it?That documentary was a mess especially considering MJ's version of it. The last bits of it where MJ grieves about the family structure had me almost in tears. Take Two really showed Bashit to be a prick. He used MJ. I need to watch that thing over. Haven't watched it since it aired back in 03 Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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jamgirl said: suga10 said: MJ must be having the time of his life in heaven.
He doesn't have to worry about no crap anymore on planet Earth. True Dat. Right now he would been stressing to get show 50 shows and having the world call him lame. And a million Wacko Jacko can't get backo stories.  | |
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Timmy84 said: jamgirl said: True Dat. Right now he would been stressing to get show 50 shows and having the world call him lame. And a million Wacko Jacko can't get backo stories. True. God works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform.  Michael Jackson -- the KING of my heart | |
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I wouldn't take this seriously, but remember that psychic that talked to Michael.
http://www.net-psychics.c...hic/?p=242 Michael Jackson in ‘good spirits’ says psychic
King of Pop Michael Jackson is in ‘good spirits’, according to renowned psychic James Van Praagh who spoke to the dead musician. Praagh asked Michael Jackson several questions. One question focused on circumstances regarding the pop icon’s death. Controversy surrounds Jackson’s death on doctor- “enablers’ who allegedly have been giving him addictive prescription pills. Speculation goes that Jackson might have died on drug overdose. Jackson was in his rented home at Holmby Hills, Bel Air when he collapsed reportedly due to cardiac arrest. But Jackson, according to Praagh’s conversation with the pop icon said, there was ‘no foul play in his death’. “I felt sick that day, very sick. My doctor Conrad told me to rest, but I had to practice moves for my upcoming concert. I was tired, very tired, then I collapsed,” Michael Jackson told James Van Praagh. The popular King of Pop is scheduled to have a show in London a few weeks from now. And where is Michael Jackson now? How is he doing in the Otherworld? “I am surrounded by happiness. I never felt happier,” said Jackson, according to Van Praagh. With a world which tried him for child molestation charges and nearly $500 million debt knocking at his doorstep, sleeping finally at rest must have been relieving for the pop icon. But when asked about his children, Jackson started crying. “I miss them a lot. I want them to be happy. I will be with them… in their hearts, will be looking over their shoulders.” Van Praagh also asked Jackson where he would like to be laid to rest. Jackson responded, “Neverland Ranch. I do not miss my body. I do not feel anything. I am happier without it. I can only remember pain that my body gave me.” Talking with the dead person’s spirit is a phenomenon among mediums and psychics from different countries and cultures, when relatives of the dead want to know where they are and what restless issues they could be facing in the Otherworld. | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: I saw it, not a good look at all. I think her mental state is gonna kill her. Question Timmy, have you ever seen the MJ documentary with Martin Bashir? If so, how did you feel about it?That documentary was a mess especially considering MJ's version of it. The last bits of it where MJ grieves about the family structure had me almost in tears. Take Two really showed Bashit to be a prick. He used MJ. That guy really contradicted the hell out of himself throughout the whole time. I admit I felt bad when MJ start his speech about family structure. I also got mad when he started talking about Blanket being too light to come from a black mother, which was kind of ignorant because as MJ said before Black people come in different colors.  I saw him on ABC the day MJ died and I wanted to slap the fuck out of him. | |
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trueiopian said: Chic35 said: It looks like a black eye to me!  Call me crazy but It looks like make-up to me! 
[Edited 7/21/09 11:12am] Or the after scarring that sometimes occurs with rhinoplasty. | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: I just can't for this mess to be over.
Its bad enough that Pap Joe keeps doing interviews and making the situation worst for everyone, now people are speculating that its murder and conspiracy? I just think there's a lot of people LYING and making up shit. If Michael's autopsy reveals he did die of cardiac arrest and died of a heart attack with NO Diprivan in his system, then what they're gonna say? Leonard Rowe: Mikka Jeksun died away from a heart attack,,,but he was still under the influences of drugs. Mikka Jeksun was TOLD by Larry Phillips that he was gon' have ta die of a heart atteck! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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jamgirl said: Timmy84 said: And a million Wacko Jacko can't get backo stories. True. God works in mysterious ways his wonders to perform.
You can tell when those crazy stories were coming with all those lawsuits and shit. An hour after hearing of MJ's passing, I was like "well thank God he ain't got to deal with those money-whoring jerks that were suing him!" | |
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Official Statement From AEG on MJ's 50-Date Schedule July 21, 2009 "Our original agreement with Michael Jackson called for 31 shows. It was our option as the promoter to only announce the first 10 concerts knowing that based on the response to the pre-sale, we could and would add the additional 21 shows to the initial on-sale." "The pre-sale response was so overwhelming that we went back to Michael's representative at the time, Dr. Tohme Tohme to inquire whether Michael would be willing to increase the number of shows. He reported that Michael was willing to increase the number of performances to 50." "We did receive feedback from Dr. Tohme and Michael himself that it was important that we spaced the additional shows out over an extended period of time and that we would rent an estate for him and his family so that they would not be 'trapped' in a hotel suite while they were in London. He told us he was also motivated by the opportunity to establish a record to be entered into the Guinness Book of World Records for the run he was about to embark on." http://www.etonline.com/n...index.html | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: I just think there's a lot of people LYING and making up shit. If Michael's autopsy reveals he did die of cardiac arrest and died of a heart attack with NO Diprivan in his system, then what they're gonna say? Leonard Rowe: Mikka Jeksun died away from a heart attack,,,but he was still under the influences of drugs. Mikka Jeksun was TOLD by Larry Phillips that he was gon' have ta die of a heart atteck! Lord I'm actually imagining him saying this. 
Leonard is as weird as Joe. | |
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jamgirl said: Timmy84 said: That documentary was a mess especially considering MJ's version of it. The last bits of it where MJ grieves about the family structure had me almost in tears. Take Two really showed Bashit to be a prick. He used MJ. I need to watch that thing over. Haven't watched it since it aired back in 03 He´s so sexy at the end of the documentary - in the Miamy interview...ah, sorry... "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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