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Reply #900 posted 07/21/09 12:55pm

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There are some handwritten notes Michael sent Leonard back when they were doing the Destiny and Triumph tours. From the looks of it, Michael didn't really trust Leonard with his money then..


Yeah but why would Michael hire him as his manager though??

That's the part that's confusing to me
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Reply #901 posted 07/21/09 12:55pm

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eek

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It was mentioned on the Today Show this morning

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/...1#32024531


Didnt watch
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Reply #902 posted 07/21/09 12:58pm

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I heard on MSNBC that 19 doctors are being investigated now.


eek

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i know sad 19!! i know that number is gonna increase, this is all so depressing

i just hope they get to the bottom of this bawl
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Reply #903 posted 07/21/09 1:02pm

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From the usually well-informed HitsDailyDouble:

IT'S SOUP FOR SONY: After some arduous negotiations, and a bit of media posturing, it looks like the Michael Jackson rehearsal film deal is signed, sealed and delivered to Sony Pictures for a reported $60 million price tag. Kudos to the studio's Amy Pascal, who saw the footage early on with Columbia/Epic's Rob Stringer, on the agreement. Word is that the Jackson estate and AEG will split that total 90/10. (7/21p)

http://www.hitsdailydoubl...ormill.cgi
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Reply #904 posted 07/21/09 1:05pm

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Reply #905 posted 07/21/09 1:10pm

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OHHHHH SNNNNAAAAAPPPPP!!!!
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Reply #906 posted 07/21/09 1:13pm

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OHHHHH SNNNNAAAAAPPPPP!!!!


A bunch of letters from 1979 and 1980 mean nothing. Michael has fired and re-hired people back into his camp.

He did hire Rowe though again.
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Reply #907 posted 07/21/09 1:14pm

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OHHHHH SNNNNAAAAAPPPPP!!!!


disbelief Great! Is there anything else that need to be told.
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Reply #908 posted 07/21/09 1:15pm

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OHHHHH SNNNNAAAAAPPPPP!!!!


A bunch of letters from 1979 and 1980 mean nothing. Michael has fired and re-hired people back into his camp.


A lot of things "don't mean nothing" but it's what revealed that it speaks volumes.

Elvis acted the same way, he'd hire and rehire people he fired. And like MJ, Elvis' former close circle wrote books on him attacking him.
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Reply #909 posted 07/21/09 1:16pm

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He did hire Rowe though again.
[Edited 7/21/09 13:14pm]


When MJ was still alive, there was nothing real clear on Leonard's involvement with MJ during his final months. Even Leonard himself wouldn't confirm shit so I don't know how you can say he hired him again.
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Reply #910 posted 07/21/09 1:17pm

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Timmy84 said:

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A bunch of letters from 1979 and 1980 mean nothing. Michael has fired and re-hired people back into his camp.


A lot of things "don't mean nothing" but it's what revealed that it speaks volumes.

Elvis acted the same way, he'd hire and rehire people he fired. And like MJ, Elvis' former close circle wrote books on him attacking him.


Yes they did.

But Priscilla and Lisa did a pretty good job with his legacy.

You won't catch a photo of Elvis in the last 4 yrs when he was bloated and pill poppin.

I'mma thinking Paris gon' be the keeper and promoter of her Dad's legacy when she comes of age.

I just hope Katie keeps it good till then
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Reply #911 posted 07/21/09 1:18pm

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Joe Jackson’s Partner Has Sketchy History

Tuesday, July 21, 2009

Michael Jackson’s father, whom he feared and loathed, got to say whatever was on his, er, mind last on “Larry King Live.”

Jackson is bad enough on his own, but he brought along concert promoter Leonard Rowe. Larry did not ask Leonard about losing a lawsuit with singer R. Kelly last year and having to pay him $3.4 million in damages. Rowe also had to pay R&B Grammy award winner Ne-Yo $700,000.

Rowe has a sketchy history at best. In 1998 he launched a lawsuit against the William Morris Agency, CAA and other group claiming racism as the reason he couldn’t promote more concerts. On December 30, 2005 ,after losing the case and appealing it, Rowe was finally crushed by a federal appeals court judge. A year earlier, another judge, finding for the defendants, wrote: “plaintiffs raised no genuine issue of material fact and that no rational trier of fact could find for plaintiffs on any of the myriad of claims made in this action.”

Jackson and Rowe (who is certainly no relation to Debbie Rowe) proved to be a hilarious but sad duo on King’s show. Joe Jackson’s claim that he never abused Michael—after reams of evidence including Michael’s own heartfelt assertions, La Toya’s book, and plenty of eyewitness accounts—demonstrated his inability to r eason fact and fiction. Joe Jackson also claimed not to know what’s happened to Michael’s body—still not buried in a final resting place after nearly four weeks.

In this session, in which both Jackson and Rowe may have crossed the line legally with AEG Live and Tohme Tohme, Rowe insisted that he had a signed document from Michael Jackson dated March 25, 2009. According to sources at Jackson’s home—I reported this when it happened—this pair kept pounding on Michael’s door until he let them in. They wouldn’t give up until Michael signed something. Joe Jackson evidently said to Michael, “I’m broke and it’s your fault.”

The timing of this is interesting. It was the same weekend when the pair issued a press release announcing they were now Michael’s managers. (They weren’t.) They also called yours truly to enlist my help in overtaking AEG Live and wresting control of Michael’s money. I declined. I have the phone record to prove they called me one week before all this started, on March 18th, at 3:40pm. We spoke for four minutes. I recorded Joe’s number in my phone. Joe said, “I have Leonard Rowe right here” and started squawking that they were going to take over Michael’s shows. I offered that that was impossible. We didn’t so much hang up as Joe just drifted away.

There’s more about Rowe’s history in the concert business. If he forces the issue, all his past associates are going to come crawling out of the woodwork. In the meantime, my sources do say that it’s Joe and Leonard who are now haranguing Katherine Jackson to get a bigger piece of Michael’s estate. The ugliness goes on unabated.

http://www.showbiz411.com...y-king-liv
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eek oh Joe get away from that man!
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Reply #912 posted 07/21/09 1:18pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



A lot of things "don't mean nothing" but it's what revealed that it speaks volumes.

Elvis acted the same way, he'd hire and rehire people he fired. And like MJ, Elvis' former close circle wrote books on him attacking him.


Yes they did.

But Priscilla and Lisa did a pretty good job with his legacy.

You won't catch a photo of Elvis in the last 4 yrs when he was bloated and pill poppin.

I'mma thinking Paris gon' be the keeper and promoter of her Dad's legacy when she comes of age.

I just hope Katie keeps it good till then


Right, I wanna see how the entire family handles this. I'm afraid it could get ugly. I just hope it don't but you never know. disbelief
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Reply #913 posted 07/21/09 1:18pm

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Timmy84 said:

suga10 said:

He did hire Rowe though again.
[Edited 7/21/09 13:14pm]


When MJ was still alive, there was nothing real clear on Leonard's involvement with MJ during his final months. Even Leonard himself wouldn't confirm shit so I don't know how you can say he hired him again.


Larry King had Leonard's letter from Michael with his signature on it about being his financial manager. He mentioned it yesterday,

Then again, maybe Michael was drugs when he signed it confused
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Reply #914 posted 07/21/09 1:20pm

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jamgirl said:



Yes they did.

But Priscilla and Lisa did a pretty good job with his legacy.

You won't catch a photo of Elvis in the last 4 yrs when he was bloated and pill poppin.

I'mma thinking Paris gon' be the keeper and promoter of her Dad's legacy when she comes of age.

I just hope Katie keeps it good till then


Right, I wanna see how the entire family handles this. I'm afraid it could get ugly. I just hope it don't but you never know. disbelief



Everybody wants piece of Michael (no pun intented) now that he's dead.
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Reply #915 posted 07/21/09 1:21pm

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Timmy84 said:

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Yes they did.

But Priscilla and Lisa did a pretty good job with his legacy.

You won't catch a photo of Elvis in the last 4 yrs when he was bloated and pill poppin.

I'mma thinking Paris gon' be the keeper and promoter of her Dad's legacy when she comes of age.

I just hope Katie keeps it good till then


Right, I wanna see how the entire family handles this. I'm afraid it could get ugly. I just hope it don't but you never know. disbelief


Minus Joe. I think the family can keep it up.

Janet, Jermaine, Randy and em and the nephews....

I thought the funeral would be a hot mess and they pulled it off.

I just pray Ms. Katherine keeps healthy for at least another 10 years to see this through.
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Reply #916 posted 07/21/09 1:21pm

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I. LOVE. THIS.


Michael never stopped!
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Reply #917 posted 07/21/09 1:21pm

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Timmy84 said:



When MJ was still alive, there was nothing real clear on Leonard's involvement with MJ during his final months. Even Leonard himself wouldn't confirm shit so I don't know how you can say he hired him again.


Larry King had Leonard's letter from Michael with his signature on it about being his financial manager. He mentioned it yesterday,

Then again, maybe Michael was drugs when he signed it confused


And that's the mystery surrounding Rowe's return. I'm still unsure what Rowe's intentions were and if MJ had a problem trusting him in the past, what makes anyone think he wasn't gonna have trouble with him again? MJ died before Rowe could do anything detrimental, the same thing that happened during R. Kelly's tour could have happened with MJ's tour.
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Reply #918 posted 07/21/09 1:22pm

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Reply #919 posted 07/21/09 1:23pm

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Right, I wanna see how the entire family handles this. I'm afraid it could get ugly. I just hope it don't but you never know. disbelief


Minus Joe. I think the family can keep it up.

Janet, Jermaine, Randy and em and the nephews....

I thought the funeral would be a hot mess and they pulled it off.

I just pray Ms. Katherine keeps healthy for at least another 10 years to see this through.


I personally think she needs help, mentally speaking, herself.
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Reply #920 posted 07/21/09 1:23pm

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Timmy84 said:

suga10 said:



Larry King had Leonard's letter from Michael with his signature on it about being his financial manager. He mentioned it yesterday,

Then again, maybe Michael was drugs when he signed it confused


And that's the mystery surrounding Rowe's return. I'm still unsure what Rowe's intentions were and if MJ had a problem trusting him in the past, what makes anyone think he wasn't gonna have trouble with him again? MJ died before Rowe could do anything detrimental, the same thing that happened during R. Kelly's tour could have happened with MJ's tour.


Hmm. God works in mysterious ways.

Michael was heading for another shizstorm....he couldn't make it...

So God said....Aiight....you're outta there
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Reply #921 posted 07/21/09 1:24pm

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Timmy84 said:

suga10 said:



Larry King had Leonard's letter from Michael with his signature on it about being his financial manager. He mentioned it yesterday,

Then again, maybe Michael was drugs when he signed it confused


And that's the mystery surrounding Rowe's return. I'm still unsure what Rowe's intentions were and if MJ had a problem trusting him in the past, what makes anyone think he wasn't gonna have trouble with him again? MJ died before Rowe could do anything detrimental, the same thing that happened during R. Kelly's tour could have happened with MJ's tour.


One thing Rowe id mention on Larry King was about how he was trying to get Michael to be paid in Pounds instead of US dollars for the upcoming 50 concerts, b/c the US dollar was worth less in comparison. AEG wanted Michael to paid in US dollars. He said Michael was getting ripped off by AEG.
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Reply #922 posted 07/21/09 1:25pm

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Minus Joe. I think the family can keep it up.

Janet, Jermaine, Randy and em and the nephews....

I thought the funeral would be a hot mess and they pulled it off.

I just pray Ms. Katherine keeps healthy for at least another 10 years to see this through.


I personally think she needs help, mentally speaking, herself.


Mentally she's the toughest of em all.

She may need grief counselling.

But that woman has seen a LOT, a LOT.

So....
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Reply #923 posted 07/21/09 1:26pm

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And that's the mystery surrounding Rowe's return. I'm still unsure what Rowe's intentions were and if MJ had a problem trusting him in the past, what makes anyone think he wasn't gonna have trouble with him again? MJ died before Rowe could do anything detrimental, the same thing that happened during R. Kelly's tour could have happened with MJ's tour.


Hmm. God works in mysterious ways.

Michael was heading for another shizstorm....he couldn't make it...

So God said....Aiight....you're outta there

nod God said "You've dealt with enough here, it's time to come home"
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Reply #924 posted 07/21/09 1:28pm

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Hmm. God works in mysterious ways.

Michael was heading for another shizstorm....he couldn't make it...

So God said....Aiight....you're outta there

nod God said "You've dealt with enough here, it's time to come home"


Yup. This is all intriguing and whatnot, but Michael aint here no more to deal wit this shiz. He's gone.

All this aint gon bring him back.

I just pray his kids are well taken care off, and no one tries to rip em off.

And I pray for his mother.
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Reply #925 posted 07/21/09 1:30pm

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nod God said "You've dealt with enough here, it's time to come home"


Yup. This is all intriguing and whatnot, but Michael aint here no more to deal wit this shiz. He's gone.

All this aint gon bring him back.

I just pray his kids are well taken care off, and no one tries to rip em off.

And I pray for his mother.

Re-reading his book, his sister in law's book and other stuff, Michael dealt with alot and the family didn't seem to help much. The only people he seemed to trust for some time was his mother, Janet, and his neices and nephews
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Reply #926 posted 07/21/09 1:32pm

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Yup. This is all intriguing and whatnot, but Michael aint here no more to deal wit this shiz. He's gone.

All this aint gon bring him back.

I just pray his kids are well taken care off, and no one tries to rip em off.

And I pray for his mother.

Re-reading his book, his sister in law's book and other stuff, Michael dealt with alot and the family didn't seem to help much. The only people he seemed to trust for some time was his mother, Janet, and his neices and nephews


Yup. When i read his memorial and things from his neices and nephews, can see Michael had a lotta love for them...and trust.


And he said he and Janet are so much alike.

sad
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Reply #927 posted 07/21/09 1:32pm

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Reply #928 posted 07/21/09 1:34pm

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Timmy84 said:

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He did hire Rowe though again.
[Edited 7/21/09 13:14pm]


When MJ was still alive, there was nothing real clear on Leonard's involvement with MJ during his final months. Even Leonard himself wouldn't confirm shit so I don't know how you can say he hired him again.


rowe sad it himself on Larry
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Reply #929 posted 07/21/09 1:38pm

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bboy87 said:


Re-reading his book, his sister in law's book and other stuff, Michael dealt with alot and the family didn't seem to help much. The only people he seemed to trust for some time was his mother, Janet, and his neices and nephews


Yup. When i read his memorial and things from his neices and nephews, can see Michael had a lotta love for them...and trust.


And he said he and Janet are so much alike.

sad



He loved them because he probably was able to relate to them when they were young.
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