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Reply #630 posted 07/20/09 10:16pm

Timmy84

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According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again.

I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did.


I wonder whether Michael had any contact?


Well you have to understand most of the Jacksons are their mama's children. MJ was a mama's boy so of course he probably felt it was wrong to defy his mama and talk to Joe's "bastard child", I think that's what Katherine called Joh'Vonnie.
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Reply #631 posted 07/20/09 10:16pm

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suga10 said:

Timmy84 said:



According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again.

I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did.


I wonder whether Michael had any contact?


Doubt it. Matter of fact, my answer is: No, he didn't.
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Reply #632 posted 07/20/09 10:16pm

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Yeah, he fathered a child with a J5 groupie. The groupie was originally after Jackie (she was 24 at the time) but then when Joe approached her, she figured she take it because Joe was a Jackson. Joe has a 34-year-old daughter as a result.


So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence?

She lives in LA with Joe. She was there at Neverland when Michael had his first arraignment and they spent time together. She's in the family reunion picture with her daughter next to Michael and Randy

ironically, they're standing 3 rows from Joe and Katherine...maybe Katherine made peace with the whole issue
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Reply #633 posted 07/20/09 10:16pm

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Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:



So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence?


According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again.

I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did.



disbelief Damn, I feel sorry for that child..... sad Another thing, What the hell was up with Jermaine when he married his brother's ex-wife and had kids with her, despite the fact that his brother already HAD kids with this women. Damn.....these muthafuckas are just Koo Koo for crack weed if they think that's normal. I bet he confused the hell out of those poor kids, not knowing if they're siblings or cousins..... ill
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Reply #634 posted 07/20/09 10:18pm

Timmy84

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NastradumasKid said:



So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence?

She lives in LA with Joe. She was there at Neverland when Michael had his first arraignment and they spent time together. She's in the family reunion picture with her daughter next to Michael and Randy


Oh yeah that's right, she was.
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Reply #635 posted 07/20/09 10:18pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again.

I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did.



disbelief Damn, I feel sorry for that child..... sad Another thing, What the hell was up with Jermaine when he married his brother's ex-wife and had kids with her, despite the fact that his brother already HAD kids with this women. Damn.....these muthafuckas are just Koo Koo for crack weed if they think that's normal. I bet he confused the hell out of those poor kids, not knowing if they're siblings or cousins..... ill


Yeah. That's just fucking weird.
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Reply #636 posted 07/20/09 10:18pm

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lol LMAO! that Larry King was epic! Larry's suspender wearing mothafucka was exposed for what he really is! tell um Joe! falloff
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Reply #637 posted 07/20/09 10:19pm

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NastradumasKid said:



So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence?

She lives in LA with Joe. She was there at Neverland when Michael had his first arraignment and they spent time together. She's in the family reunion picture with her daughter next to Michael and Randy

ironically, they're standing 3 rows from Joe and Katherine...maybe Katherine made peace with the whole issue
[Edited 7/20/09 22:17pm]



giggle Man this family is fucked up.
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Reply #638 posted 07/20/09 10:19pm

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lol LMAO! that Larry King was epic! Larry's suspender wearing mothafucka was exposed for what he really is! tell um Joe! falloff


Joe made me laugh. falloff
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Reply #639 posted 07/20/09 10:19pm

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bboy87 said:

NastradumasKid said:



So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence?

She lives in LA with Joe. She was there at Neverland when Michael had his first arraignment and they spent time together. She's in the family reunion picture with her daughter next to Michael and Randy


You think he actually talked to her though? For some reason, I don't.
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Reply #640 posted 07/20/09 10:20pm

Timmy84

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NastradumasKid said:



So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence?

ironically, they're standing 3 rows from Joe and Katherine...maybe Katherine made peace with the whole issue
[Edited 7/20/09 22:17pm]


Might've but that's still fucking weird. How you diss this girl as a "bastard child" (even though I can kind of understand) and then turn around and allow her in the family picture anyway? I want to know when the other Jacksons finally met and talk to Joh'Vonnie?
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Reply #641 posted 07/20/09 10:21pm

Timmy84

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bboy87 said:


She lives in LA with Joe. She was there at Neverland when Michael had his first arraignment and they spent time together. She's in the family reunion picture with her daughter next to Michael and Randy


You think he actually talked to her though? For some reason, I don't.


I don't either, it's like she's just there.
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Reply #642 posted 07/20/09 10:24pm

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Timmy84 said:

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You think he actually talked to her though? For some reason, I don't.


I don't either, it's like she's just there.



Shit, I guess you can't blame them, especially since they had very little knowledge about her.
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Reply #643 posted 07/20/09 10:24pm

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I thought Joe did a lot better in that ABC interview. I guess its caused he got money for it lol



Rowe did better without Joe on Good Morning America- I think Joe was driving his mind crazy on Larry King.



It takes two to cause craziness!!!!! wink
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Reply #644 posted 07/20/09 10:24pm

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I think I can remember some of those episodes. lol



those 2 were a TRIP. i made sure to tune in every time they were going to be on. Some of the best TV i ever remember lol

lol You remember all those episodes of Geraldo and Donahue?
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Reply #645 posted 07/20/09 10:25pm

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Having seen the second viewing the fact that Joe has NOT been allowed to see the private autopsy says volumes on how the majority of Jackson's feel bout old crazy money grubbing Joe.
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Reply #646 posted 07/20/09 10:26pm

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WaterInYourBath said:



You think he actually talked to her though? For some reason, I don't.


I don't either, it's like she's just there.

She was on MJNO or had someone on MJNO on there speak for her. She said that she talked with him and her daughter spent time with her uncle.
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Reply #647 posted 07/20/09 10:28pm

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Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:



So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence?


According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again.

I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did.


well, with all due respect, i can understand kathryn's pain. when i was a little girl, my father had an affair and had two girls out of wedlock. i knew of them but we didn't grow up together, my mother never told me to treat them or their mother disrespectfully, and i never did. but do i have a relationship with them now, or do i view them the way i view my brother, my mother's son? no, i don't. my mother wasn't part of a harem; she was my father's wife. i'm sorry that my father chose not to honor his vows to my mother, and i'm not going to pretend that i see those girls as anything other than a symbol of my mother's humiliation. you might think that's mean, but it's honest. i understand kathryn not wanting to have evidence of joseph's affair thrown up in her face. neutral
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Reply #648 posted 07/20/09 10:28pm

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Having seen the second viewing the fact that Joe has NOT been allowed to see the private autopsy says volumes on how the majority of Jackson's feel bout old crazy money grubbing Joe.


I think he was lying. He was trying to keep his mouthshut, and not spill out details by accident.
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Reply #649 posted 07/20/09 10:30pm

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suga10 said:

lazycrockett said:

Having seen the second viewing the fact that Joe has NOT been allowed to see the private autopsy says volumes on how the majority of Jackson's feel bout old crazy money grubbing Joe.


I think he was lying. He was trying to keep his mouthshut, and not spill out details by accident.



WHY? The LAPD report is expected by mid week, if not sooner, unless he has an interview being published in the next 2 days, he's gonna miss out on the coin.
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Reply #650 posted 07/20/09 10:30pm

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Having seen the second viewing the fact that Joe has NOT been allowed to see the private autopsy says volumes on how the majority of Jackson's feel bout old crazy money grubbing Joe.

Its shocking to me that he doesnt even know where Michael's body is. eek
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Reply #651 posted 07/20/09 10:31pm

Timmy84

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suga10 said:



I think he was lying. He was trying to keep his mouthshut, and not spill out details by accident.



WHY? The LAPD report is expected by mid week, if not sooner, unless he has an interview being published in the next 2 days, he's gonna miss out on the coin.


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Reply #652 posted 07/20/09 10:32pm

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Timmy84 said:



According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again.

I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did.


well, with all due respect, i can understand kathryn's pain. when i was a little girl, my father had an affair and had two girls out of wedlock. i knew of them but we didn't grow up together, my mother never told me to treat them or their mother disrespectfully, and i never did. but do i have a relationship with them now, or do i view them the way i view my brother, my mother's son? no, i don't. my mother wasn't part of a harem; she was my father's wife. i'm sorry that my father chose not to honor his vows to my mother, and i'm not going to pretend that i see those girls as anything other than a symbol of my mother's humiliation. you might think that's mean, but it's honest. i understand kathryn not wanting to have evidence of joseph's affair thrown up in her face. neutral

I agree. I have a half sister that my father had before he met my mother and although I know of her, I don't have any kind of relationship with her. I know people who siblings from affairs and they simply don't have a relationship with them
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Reply #653 posted 07/20/09 10:32pm

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Timmy84 said:



According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again.

I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did.


well, with all due respect, i can understand kathryn's pain. when i was a little girl, my father had an affair and had two girls out of wedlock. i knew of them but we didn't grow up together, my mother never told me to treat them or their mother disrespectfully, and i never did. but do i have a relationship with them now, or do i view them the way i view my brother, my mother's son? no, i don't. my mother wasn't part of a harem; she was my father's wife. i'm sorry that my father chose not to honor his vows to my mother, and i'm not going to pretend that i see those girls as anything other than a symbol of my mother's humiliation. you might think that's mean, but it's honest. i understand kathryn not wanting to have evidence of joseph's affair thrown up in her face. neutral



comfort I'm sorry about that. Is your brother older than you?
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Reply #654 posted 07/20/09 10:33pm

Timmy84

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I don't either, it's like she's just there.

She was on MJNO or had someone on MJNO on there speak for her. She said that she talked with him and her daughter spent time with her uncle.


Interesting...
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Reply #655 posted 07/20/09 10:33pm

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Timmy84 said:

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ironically, they're standing 3 rows from Joe and Katherine...maybe Katherine made peace with the whole issue
[Edited 7/20/09 22:17pm]


Might've but that's still fucking weird. How you diss this girl as a "bastard child" (even though I can kind of understand) and then turn around and allow her in the family picture anyway? I want to know when the other Jacksons finally met and talk to Joh'Vonnie?


That is stupid for them to diss Joe's child. She didn't do anything wrong, Katherine should have shot Joe's hotdog and the problem of his infidelity would have been solved!

She looks just like Joe...
From my understanding she resides with him as his caretaker in Las Vegas, and works in travel industry.
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Reply #656 posted 07/20/09 10:33pm

suga10

lazycrockett said:

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I think he was lying. He was trying to keep his mouthshut, and not spill out details by accident.



WHY? The LAPD report is expected by mid week, if not sooner, unless he has an interview being published in the next 2 days, he's gonna miss out on the coin.


Wasn't the Tox results delayed by 2 weeks?

I'm sure Joe knows everything thats going on.

Remember at the BET Awards how Joe told Don Lemon of CNN, I can't go into details about the autopsy right now, and Londell McMillan was next to him.
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Reply #657 posted 07/20/09 10:34pm

Timmy84

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Timmy84 said:



According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again.

I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did.


well, with all due respect, i can understand kathryn's pain. when i was a little girl, my father had an affair and had two girls out of wedlock. i knew of them but we didn't grow up together, my mother never told me to treat them or their mother disrespectfully, and i never did. but do i have a relationship with them now, or do i view them the way i view my brother, my mother's son? no, i don't. my mother wasn't part of a harem; she was my father's wife. i'm sorry that my father chose not to honor his vows to my mother, and i'm not going to pretend that i see those girls as anything other than a symbol of my mother's humiliation. you might think that's mean, but it's honest. i understand kathryn not wanting to have evidence of joseph's affair thrown up in her face. neutral


In that way I feel for you (and Katherine). Yeah I can definitely see why having a child with another woman would look. comfort
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Reply #658 posted 07/20/09 10:34pm

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Might've but that's still fucking weird. How you diss this girl as a "bastard child" (even though I can kind of understand) and then turn around and allow her in the family picture anyway? I want to know when the other Jacksons finally met and talk to Joh'Vonnie?


That is stupid for them to diss Joe's child. She didn't do anything wrong, Katherine should have shot Joe's hotdog and the problem of his infidelity would have been solved!

She looks just like Joe...
From my understanding she resides as his caretaker in Las Vegas, and works in travel industry.


She doesn't look half bad. biggrin
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Reply #659 posted 07/20/09 10:35pm

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utopia7 said:

Joe said " I like the EARF sawng the song about the ANUH-MUHLS"


is slumped over my keyboard falloff


I think he was talking about that song "Ben" spit man dude is a DUMB-ASS!!! To the Max!!!

the earth song is about animals also...u seen the video
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