suga10 said: Timmy84 said: According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again. I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did. I wonder whether Michael had any contact? Well you have to understand most of the Jacksons are their mama's children. MJ was a mama's boy so of course he probably felt it was wrong to defy his mama and talk to Joe's "bastard child", I think that's what Katherine called Joh'Vonnie. | |
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suga10 said: Timmy84 said: According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again. I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did. I wonder whether Michael had any contact? Doubt it. Matter of fact, my answer is: No, he didn't. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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NastradumasKid said: Timmy84 said: Yeah, he fathered a child with a J5 groupie. The groupie was originally after Jackie (she was 24 at the time) but then when Joe approached her, she figured she take it because Joe was a Jackson. Joe has a 34-year-old daughter as a result. So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence? She lives in LA with Joe. She was there at Neverland when Michael had his first arraignment and they spent time together. She's in the family reunion picture with her daughter next to Michael and Randy ironically, they're standing 3 rows from Joe and Katherine...maybe Katherine made peace with the whole issue [Edited 7/20/09 22:17pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence? According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again. I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did. Damn, I feel sorry for that child..... Another thing, What the hell was up with Jermaine when he married his brother's ex-wife and had kids with her, despite the fact that his brother already HAD kids with this women. Damn.....these muthafuckas are just Koo Koo for crack if they think that's normal. I bet he confused the hell out of those poor kids, not knowing if they're siblings or cousins..... | |
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bboy87 said: NastradumasKid said: So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence? She lives in LA with Joe. She was there at Neverland when Michael had his first arraignment and they spent time together. She's in the family reunion picture with her daughter next to Michael and Randy Oh yeah that's right, she was. | |
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NastradumasKid said: Timmy84 said: According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again. I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did. Damn, I feel sorry for that child..... Another thing, What the hell was up with Jermaine when he married his brother's ex-wife and had kids with her, despite the fact that his brother already HAD kids with this women. Damn.....these muthafuckas are just Koo Koo for crack if they think that's normal. I bet he confused the hell out of those poor kids, not knowing if they're siblings or cousins..... Yeah. That's just fucking weird. | |
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LMAO! that Larry King was epic! Larry's suspender wearing mothafucka was exposed for what he really is! tell um Joe! | |
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bboy87 said: NastradumasKid said: So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence? She lives in LA with Joe. She was there at Neverland when Michael had his first arraignment and they spent time together. She's in the family reunion picture with her daughter next to Michael and Randy ironically, they're standing 3 rows from Joe and Katherine...maybe Katherine made peace with the whole issue [Edited 7/20/09 22:17pm] Man this family is fucked up. | |
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midiscover said: LMAO! that Larry King was epic! Larry's suspender wearing mothafucka was exposed for what he really is! tell um Joe!
Joe made me laugh. | |
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bboy87 said: NastradumasKid said: So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence? She lives in LA with Joe. She was there at Neverland when Michael had his first arraignment and they spent time together. She's in the family reunion picture with her daughter next to Michael and Randy You think he actually talked to her though? For some reason, I don't. "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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bboy87 said: NastradumasKid said: So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence? ironically, they're standing 3 rows from Joe and Katherine...maybe Katherine made peace with the whole issue [Edited 7/20/09 22:17pm] Might've but that's still fucking weird. How you diss this girl as a "bastard child" (even though I can kind of understand) and then turn around and allow her in the family picture anyway? I want to know when the other Jacksons finally met and talk to Joh'Vonnie? | |
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WaterInYourBath said: bboy87 said: She lives in LA with Joe. She was there at Neverland when Michael had his first arraignment and they spent time together. She's in the family reunion picture with her daughter next to Michael and Randy You think he actually talked to her though? For some reason, I don't. I don't either, it's like she's just there. | |
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Timmy84 said: WaterInYourBath said: You think he actually talked to her though? For some reason, I don't. I don't either, it's like she's just there. Shit, I guess you can't blame them, especially since they had very little knowledge about her. [Edited 7/20/09 22:24pm] | |
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I thought Joe did a lot better in that ABC interview. I guess its caused he got money for it
Rowe did better without Joe on Good Morning America- I think Joe was driving his mind crazy on Larry King. It takes two to cause craziness!!!!! | |
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errant said: Timmy84 said: I think I can remember some of those episodes. those 2 were a TRIP. i made sure to tune in every time they were going to be on. Some of the best TV i ever remember You remember all those episodes of Geraldo and Donahue? | |
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Having seen the second viewing the fact that Joe has NOT been allowed to see the private autopsy says volumes on how the majority of Jackson's feel bout old crazy money grubbing Joe. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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Timmy84 said: WaterInYourBath said: You think he actually talked to her though? For some reason, I don't. I don't either, it's like she's just there. She was on MJNO or had someone on MJNO on there speak for her. She said that she talked with him and her daughter spent time with her uncle. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: So what's up with the daughter??? Did MJ or anyone ever aknowledged her existence? According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again. I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did. well, with all due respect, i can understand kathryn's pain. when i was a little girl, my father had an affair and had two girls out of wedlock. i knew of them but we didn't grow up together, my mother never told me to treat them or their mother disrespectfully, and i never did. but do i have a relationship with them now, or do i view them the way i view my brother, my mother's son? no, i don't. my mother wasn't part of a harem; she was my father's wife. i'm sorry that my father chose not to honor his vows to my mother, and i'm not going to pretend that i see those girls as anything other than a symbol of my mother's humiliation. you might think that's mean, but it's honest. i understand kathryn not wanting to have evidence of joseph's affair thrown up in her face. | |
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lazycrockett said: Having seen the second viewing the fact that Joe has NOT been allowed to see the private autopsy says volumes on how the majority of Jackson's feel bout old crazy money grubbing Joe.
I think he was lying. He was trying to keep his mouthshut, and not spill out details by accident. | |
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suga10 said: lazycrockett said: Having seen the second viewing the fact that Joe has NOT been allowed to see the private autopsy says volumes on how the majority of Jackson's feel bout old crazy money grubbing Joe.
I think he was lying. He was trying to keep his mouthshut, and not spill out details by accident. WHY? The LAPD report is expected by mid week, if not sooner, unless he has an interview being published in the next 2 days, he's gonna miss out on the coin. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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lazycrockett said: Having seen the second viewing the fact that Joe has NOT been allowed to see the private autopsy says volumes on how the majority of Jackson's feel bout old crazy money grubbing Joe.
Its shocking to me that he doesnt even know where Michael's body is. | |
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lazycrockett said: suga10 said: I think he was lying. He was trying to keep his mouthshut, and not spill out details by accident. WHY? The LAPD report is expected by mid week, if not sooner, unless he has an interview being published in the next 2 days, he's gonna miss out on the coin. | |
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kibbles said: Timmy84 said: According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again. I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did. well, with all due respect, i can understand kathryn's pain. when i was a little girl, my father had an affair and had two girls out of wedlock. i knew of them but we didn't grow up together, my mother never told me to treat them or their mother disrespectfully, and i never did. but do i have a relationship with them now, or do i view them the way i view my brother, my mother's son? no, i don't. my mother wasn't part of a harem; she was my father's wife. i'm sorry that my father chose not to honor his vows to my mother, and i'm not going to pretend that i see those girls as anything other than a symbol of my mother's humiliation. you might think that's mean, but it's honest. i understand kathryn not wanting to have evidence of joseph's affair thrown up in her face. I agree. I have a half sister that my father had before he met my mother and although I know of her, I don't have any kind of relationship with her. I know people who siblings from affairs and they simply don't have a relationship with them "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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kibbles said: Timmy84 said: According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again. I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did. well, with all due respect, i can understand kathryn's pain. when i was a little girl, my father had an affair and had two girls out of wedlock. i knew of them but we didn't grow up together, my mother never told me to treat them or their mother disrespectfully, and i never did. but do i have a relationship with them now, or do i view them the way i view my brother, my mother's son? no, i don't. my mother wasn't part of a harem; she was my father's wife. i'm sorry that my father chose not to honor his vows to my mother, and i'm not going to pretend that i see those girls as anything other than a symbol of my mother's humiliation. you might think that's mean, but it's honest. i understand kathryn not wanting to have evidence of joseph's affair thrown up in her face. I'm sorry about that. Is your brother older than you? | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: I don't either, it's like she's just there. She was on MJNO or had someone on MJNO on there speak for her. She said that she talked with him and her daughter spent time with her uncle. Interesting... | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: ironically, they're standing 3 rows from Joe and Katherine...maybe Katherine made peace with the whole issue [Edited 7/20/09 22:17pm] Might've but that's still fucking weird. How you diss this girl as a "bastard child" (even though I can kind of understand) and then turn around and allow her in the family picture anyway? I want to know when the other Jacksons finally met and talk to Joh'Vonnie? That is stupid for them to diss Joe's child. She didn't do anything wrong, Katherine should have shot Joe's and the problem of his infidelity would have been solved! She looks just like Joe... From my understanding she resides with him as his caretaker in Las Vegas, and works in travel industry. [Edited 7/20/09 22:34pm] The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. | |
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lazycrockett said: suga10 said: I think he was lying. He was trying to keep his mouthshut, and not spill out details by accident. WHY? The LAPD report is expected by mid week, if not sooner, unless he has an interview being published in the next 2 days, he's gonna miss out on the coin. Wasn't the Tox results delayed by 2 weeks? I'm sure Joe knows everything thats going on. Remember at the BET Awards how Joe told Don Lemon of CNN, I can't go into details about the autopsy right now, and Londell McMillan was next to him. | |
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kibbles said: Timmy84 said: According to reports, Katherine didn't want her children to acknowledged her presence. Rebbie rebelled and began having contact with the child, as did Janet. When Katherine found out what Janet was doing, she stopped her from seeing the baby. When Rebbie called to get Janet to see Joh'Vonnie, Janet told her regrettably that she couldn't see Joh'Vonnie ever again. I can see why Janet got away from her family as quickly as she did. well, with all due respect, i can understand kathryn's pain. when i was a little girl, my father had an affair and had two girls out of wedlock. i knew of them but we didn't grow up together, my mother never told me to treat them or their mother disrespectfully, and i never did. but do i have a relationship with them now, or do i view them the way i view my brother, my mother's son? no, i don't. my mother wasn't part of a harem; she was my father's wife. i'm sorry that my father chose not to honor his vows to my mother, and i'm not going to pretend that i see those girls as anything other than a symbol of my mother's humiliation. you might think that's mean, but it's honest. i understand kathryn not wanting to have evidence of joseph's affair thrown up in her face. In that way I feel for you (and Katherine). Yeah I can definitely see why having a child with another woman would look. | |
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Chic35 said: Timmy84 said: Might've but that's still fucking weird. How you diss this girl as a "bastard child" (even though I can kind of understand) and then turn around and allow her in the family picture anyway? I want to know when the other Jacksons finally met and talk to Joh'Vonnie? That is stupid for them to diss Joe's child. She didn't do anything wrong, Katherine should have shot Joe's and the problem of his infidelity would have been solved! She looks just like Joe... From my understanding she resides as his caretaker in Las Vegas, and works in travel industry. She doesn't look half bad. | |
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NastradumasKid said: utopia7 said: Joe said " I like the EARF sawng the song about the ANUH-MUHLS"
is slumped over my keyboard I think he was talking about that song "Ben" man dude is a DUMB-ASS!!! To the Max!!! the earth song is about animals also...u seen the video "we make our heroes in America only to destroy them" | |
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