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Regardless of whether Michael had a drug addiction problem, its the doctor who makes the final call regarding what's best for their patient.
If Murray had a brain and didn' want to get caught, he would have gotten some anthesiologist to help him while administering Diprivan if he wanted to keep his $1500000 per month job as Michael's doctor so badly, instead of getting fired from Michael. Dr. Ratner who worked with Michael before on the History Tour, could have been there to provide him assistance. [Edited 7/28/09 12:08pm] | |
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From Elvis to Anna Nicole: Jackson Death Latest Celebrity OD Investigation
Dr. Conrad Murray Joins Ranks of Docs Who Treated Addicted Celebs With Yet More Drugs By SARAH NETTER and JOSH GAYNOR July 28, 2009 Michael Jackson is only the latest in a growing line of celebrities to die from misuse of prescription drugs, but the investigations into the others' deaths should serve as a warning to Dr. Conrad Murray and other doctors who supplied the King of Pop with powerful painkillers and sedatives. Share Physicians suffer consequences for feeding famous patients' pill addictions. Doctors behind the prescription drugs that killed celebrities such as Elvis Presley, Anna Nicole Smith and wrestler Chris Benoit have faced severe legal and professional consequences, accused of feeding their famous patients' addictions. "Sometimes personal physicians, I think, are grandiose and think they can do more for a celebrity in their home than they really can," said Dr. David Sack, president of Promises Treatment Centers. "So they enter that arrangement with the belief that they have more knowledge or control than they actually have." The main focus of the investigation into Jackson's June 25 death, reportedly from a mix of painkillers and the powerful anesthetic propofol, has centered on Murray, Jackson's personal physician at the time. Murray could face manslaughter charges in Jackson's death. When Heath Ledger died in 2007 from a lethal cocktail of prescribed sedatives, two of his doctors were reportedly cleared of any wrongdoing. But in March, two of Anna Nicole Smith's doctors pleaded not guilty to eight felonies each for allegedly prescribing thousands of pills to the former Playboy model -- everything from Xanax to methadone. Smith died in February of 2007 after overdosing in a Florida hotel room. Parallels Between Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley In late 2002, a Hollywood doctor had his medical license revoked for prescribing painkillers and sedatives to Winona Ryder under the alias "Emily Thompson" and to Courtney Love. Both were given the pills without what is called a "good faith exam." "They have the illusion that they are safe," Sack told "Good Morning America." "They got them from a doctor. They're not worried about their purity and they make the assumption that it would be hard to die or overdose from them." But Benoit, the late pro wrestler who killed his wife and 7-year-old sun before committing suicide in June 2007, was one of several patients of a Georgia doctor who was sentenced in May to 10 years in prison for over-prescribing painkillers to known drug abusers. The wrestler's father, Michael Benoit, told "GMA" in 2007 that his son was "a loving father, loved his wife, loved his children." "We had no understanding of how this could have happened," he said. Yet in the case of Elvis Presley's death -- which has drawn comparisons to Jackson's -- his doctor, George "Dr. Nick" Nichopoulos was acquitted in 1981 after facing charges that he fed the King's pill addiction by prescribing him some 19,000 doses of drugs in less than three years. Nichopoulos testified in October 1981 that Presley had a "long history of insomnia" and that he had "taken some sort of sedative or hypnotic for a greater part of his life." Nichopoulos also said that many of the drugs he prescribed were intended to help get Presley off medications he was already abusing. But Presley died in August 1977, and his official cause of death was listed as "cardiac arrhythmia." "Even a single pill to someone who doesn't need it is still malpractice," Sack said. "So if someone is being given pain medications to support an addiction and not to treat pain, it really wouldn't matter if it was five pills or 500 pills." | |
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suga10 said: Regardless of whether Michael had a drug addiction problem, its the doctor who makes the final call regarding what's best for their patient.
If Murray had a brain and didn' want to get caught, he would have gotten some anthesiologist to help him while administering Diprivan if he wanted to keep his $1500000 per month job as Michael's doctor so badly, instead of getting fired from Michael. Dr. Ratner who worked with Michael before on the History Tour, could have been there to provide him assistance. But they didn't, they didn't give MJ any good advice. Instead of just acting like concerned doctors, they did whatever was necessary to feed what he wanted. It ain't no different from people who are addicted to crack, heroin or are alcoholics. And I'm sure Murray's not the first guy to do what he has alleged to have done. It's like the John Belushi situation. It wasn't as if Cathy, who was an addict herself, wanted to kill him but clearly she was allowing John to use the drug that eventually took his life. There's always guilt around people who either prescribed prescription drugs or whoever gave them illegal drugs. As much as Conrad acted as foolishly as he did, he ain't the only one. [Edited 7/28/09 12:13pm] | |
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seeingvoices12 said: Any shit developments ?
Nope. | |
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Timmy84 said: ^^ I rather Katherine accept it.
Jul 28 2009 2:04 PM EDT Michael Jackson's 'Moonwalk' Memoir To Be Re-Released Ghostwritten autobiography, originally published in 1988, set for October reissue. By Eric Ditzian Plans are already in the works to repurpose almost every shred of Michael Jackson's creative output — music, footage, costumes and more — for various tributes on the big screen, small screen, museum hall and concert stage. Next up is the written word. Jackson's 1988 ghostwritten memoir, "Moonwalk," is being reissued for publication in October, The Associated Press reports. The reissue will contain a new introduction by a yet-unnamed friend of Jackson and will have a first printing of 100,000 copies. In interviews with the AP, Jackson's literary agent, Joy Harris, and the original editor of the book, Shaye Areheart, who is also publishing the reissue, revealed the process behind making "Moonwalk," as well as the harried days after the pop star's death when plans to re-release the book began. Beginning in the mid '80s, Areheart met with Jackson many times at his Encino, California, home to conduct interviews for the memoir. "He was just a lively, in-touch guy," she said. "And he did have his act together." They would often sit together by a large fireplace as Areheart asked questions and Jackson spoke answers into a tape recorder. He was "smart and funny and gracious," she said. Yet the project ended up taking much longer to complete than expected, as Jackson was often occupied with the demands of tours and recording sessions. "His time was constantly not his own," Areheart said. The book ended up coming out in the spring of 1988 and became a #1 New York Times best seller. In the memoir, Jackson admitted to being beaten by his father and to having two nose jobs. He dedicated the book to Fred Astaire. According to Harris, publishers began asking about reprinting the memoir the morning after Jackson's death. She got in touch with his attorneys, who began negotiations and struck a deal with Areheart and her Random House imprint, Harmony. "It did seem abrupt to me," Harris told the AP. "But when I thought about it, it didn't surprise me, in the way that everything is so immediate these days." She should release those audio tapes.... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: ^^ I rather Katherine accept it.
Jul 28 2009 2:04 PM EDT Michael Jackson's 'Moonwalk' Memoir To Be Re-Released Ghostwritten autobiography, originally published in 1988, set for October reissue. By Eric Ditzian Plans are already in the works to repurpose almost every shred of Michael Jackson's creative output — music, footage, costumes and more — for various tributes on the big screen, small screen, museum hall and concert stage. Next up is the written word. Jackson's 1988 ghostwritten memoir, "Moonwalk," is being reissued for publication in October, The Associated Press reports. The reissue will contain a new introduction by a yet-unnamed friend of Jackson and will have a first printing of 100,000 copies. In interviews with the AP, Jackson's literary agent, Joy Harris, and the original editor of the book, Shaye Areheart, who is also publishing the reissue, revealed the process behind making "Moonwalk," as well as the harried days after the pop star's death when plans to re-release the book began. Beginning in the mid '80s, Areheart met with Jackson many times at his Encino, California, home to conduct interviews for the memoir. "He was just a lively, in-touch guy," she said. "And he did have his act together." They would often sit together by a large fireplace as Areheart asked questions and Jackson spoke answers into a tape recorder. He was "smart and funny and gracious," she said. Yet the project ended up taking much longer to complete than expected, as Jackson was often occupied with the demands of tours and recording sessions. "His time was constantly not his own," Areheart said. The book ended up coming out in the spring of 1988 and became a #1 New York Times best seller. In the memoir, Jackson admitted to being beaten by his father and to having two nose jobs. He dedicated the book to Fred Astaire. According to Harris, publishers began asking about reprinting the memoir the morning after Jackson's death. She got in touch with his attorneys, who began negotiations and struck a deal with Areheart and her Random House imprint, Harmony. "It did seem abrupt to me," Harris told the AP. "But when I thought about it, it didn't surprise me, in the way that everything is so immediate these days." She should release those audio tapes....  | |
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Even me being a big mj fan I don't think all the blame should be on the doctor I do feel he should be charged for something though but at the end of the day Michael was a addict and some mj fans don't want to admit that | |
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babybugz said: Even me being a big mj fan I don't think all the blame should be on the doctor I do feel he should be charged for something though but at the end of the day Michael was a addict and some mj fans don't want to admit that
Yeah Michael just found a dummy that did whatever he asked him to. And we see how foolish Conrad acted afterwards. Maybe if MJ hadn't hired him, maybe he'd be here. Oh well. I did hear when they raided Conrad's home that he WAS present so obviously he ain't really hiding that much, is he? | |
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QVC to celebrate and sell Michael Jackson memories Tuesday night
TV shopping network QVC will be selling Michael Jackson music and memorabilia Tuesday night from 10-11 p.m. ET. Among items for sale: DVD and CD collections, T-shirts, hats, commemorative stamp collections, replica gold records, trading cards and tote bags. http://www.qvc.com/cgen/r...AELJACKSON | |
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suga10 said: Regardless of whether Michael had a drug addiction problem, its the doctor who makes the final call regarding what's best for their patient.
If Murray had a brain and didn' want to get caught, he would have gotten some anthesiologist to help him while administering Diprivan if he wanted to keep his $1500000 per month job as Michael's doctor so badly, instead of getting fired from Michael. Dr. Ratner who worked with Michael before on the History Tour, could have been there to provide him assistance. [Edited 7/28/09 12:08pm] Exactly! if these meds were not really needed,and Michael had constantly been meet with the answer "NO",then maybe he never would have had a chance to have any kind of addiction,and we would'nt all be sitting here writing about his death. The whole thing makes me sick,and sad.Because of doctors that were to stupid to not say no,and live up to the oath that they took,this world is now without the presence of a wonderful man,and entertainer,and his children are without there father! Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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@ QVC, how I knew they jumped on the bandwagon. I remember a few years ago catching them selling Elvis stuff, lol.
This whole MJ doctor mess is reminding me of Elvis' doctor, Dr. Nick. Remember they didn't raid his offices on suspicion that he gave Elvis the drugs that were found in his system until 1979 and even then they didn't go as far as manslaughter. So two years vs. four weeks, I say, the LAPD are faster now than cops in Memphis were about Elvis. [Edited 7/28/09 12:26pm] | |
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EmeraldSkies said: suga10 said: Regardless of whether Michael had a drug addiction problem, its the doctor who makes the final call regarding what's best for their patient.
If Murray had a brain and didn' want to get caught, he would have gotten some anthesiologist to help him while administering Diprivan if he wanted to keep his $1500000 per month job as Michael's doctor so badly, instead of getting fired from Michael. Dr. Ratner who worked with Michael before on the History Tour, could have been there to provide him assistance. [Edited 7/28/09 12:08pm] Exactly! if these meds were not really needed,and Michael had constantly been meet with the answer "NO",then maybe he never would have had a chance to have any kind of addiction,and we would'nt all be sitting here writing about his death. The whole thing makes me sick,and sad.Because of doctors that were to stupid to not say no,and live up to the oath that they took,this world is now without the presence of a wonderful man,and entertainer,and his children are without there father! Yeah like I said, MJ's "doctors" were ALL yes-men, even the guys who gave him surgery. They couldn't just say "no, Michael, you're beautiful, don't do this..." He had enablers all of his life and if someone told him no he went to some dumbass who did. It's sad to say it like this but it is and it's even more tragic because he's living three kids behind. | |
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Marrk said: WaterInYourBath said: Murray is apparently living in fear now.
Good!  i am sure he will get what he deserves after all people always commented on the fact Michael had some crazy fans - they havent exactly gone anywhere! With Love there is no Death | |
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b3xy said: Marrk said: Good! i am sure he will get what he deserves after all people always commented on the fact Michael had some crazy fans - they havent exactly gone anywhere! MJ was surrounded by nothing BUT crazy. | |
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Timmy84 said: EmeraldSkies said: Exactly! if these meds were not really needed,and Michael had constantly been meet with the answer "NO",then maybe he never would have had a chance to have any kind of addiction,and we would'nt all be sitting here writing about his death. The whole thing makes me sick,and sad.Because of doctors that were to stupid to not say no,and live up to the oath that they took,this world is now without the presence of a wonderful man,and entertainer,and his children are without there father! Yeah like I said, MJ's "doctors" were ALL yes-men, even the guys who gave him surgery. They couldn't just say "no, Michael, you're beautiful, don't do this..." He had enablers all of his life and if someone told him no he went to some dumbass who did. It's sad to say it like this but it is and it's even more tragic because he's living three kids behind. That part still floors me. I don't understand how he could'nt see how good looking he was. He was seriously hot! I really don't see why he felt he had to keep fucking with his face.  Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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EmeraldSkies said: Timmy84 said: Yeah like I said, MJ's "doctors" were ALL yes-men, even the guys who gave him surgery. They couldn't just say "no, Michael, you're beautiful, don't do this..." He had enablers all of his life and if someone told him no he went to some dumbass who did. It's sad to say it like this but it is and it's even more tragic because he's living three kids behind. That part still floors me. I don't understand how he could'nt see how good looking he was. He was seriously hot! I really don't see why he felt he had to keep fucking with his face. Yeah the guy had very low self-esteem issues. But I think Michael is one of those stories where no matter what you tell him, he saw something different. Sometimes you end up writing your own death certificate. The only real happiness Michael had was when his kids showed up, other than that, this was a life of sadness even if there was some joy in those days. | |
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Timmy84 said: b3xy said: i am sure he will get what he deserves after all people always commented on the fact Michael had some crazy fans - they havent exactly gone anywhere! MJ was surrounded by nothing BUT crazy. i cant see it ending anytime soon, i wonder what his trial will end up being like i sense crazy might be an understatement lol With Love there is no Death | |
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Timmy84 said: EmeraldSkies said: That part still floors me. I don't understand how he could'nt see how good looking he was. He was seriously hot! I really don't see why he felt he had to keep fucking with his face. Yeah the guy had very low self-esteem issues. But I think Michael is one of those stories where no matter what you tell him, he saw something different. Sometimes you end up writing your own death certificate. The only real happiness Michael had was when his kids showed up, other than that, this was a life of sadness even if there was some joy in those days. Michael had alot of good times and NOT just when his kids showed up. He had a life we could only dream about....  A least he live a full life.The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. | |
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Chic35 said: Timmy84 said: Yeah the guy had very low self-esteem issues. But I think Michael is one of those stories where no matter what you tell him, he saw something different. Sometimes you end up writing your own death certificate. The only real happiness Michael had was when his kids showed up, other than that, this was a life of sadness even if there was some joy in those days. Michael had alot of good times and NOT just when his kids showed up. He had a life we could only dream about.... A least he live a full life.After reading his story so many times, I don't know about that. If I became as world famous as he did at 10, I'd be singing "have you seen my childhood?" too. | |
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b3xy said: Timmy84 said: MJ was surrounded by nothing BUT crazy. i cant see it ending anytime soon, i wonder what his trial will end up being like i sense crazy might be an understatement lol Yeah if it happens, it'll definitely be a mess. | |
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Timmy84 said: Yeah like I said, MJ's "doctors" were ALL yes-men, even the guys who gave him surgery. They couldn't just say "no, Michael, you're beautiful, don't do this..." He had enablers all of his life and if someone told him no he went to some dumbass who did. It's sad to say it like this but it is and it's even more tragic because he's living three kids behind. David Gest said that the plastic surgeon was the one encouraging Michael to do more because he, MJ, and Latoya all had the same surgeon. & Chopra said that he told him no when asked for Propofol. The nurse who spoke to CNN also said that she told him no. Murray should have said no but I guess he wanted the money. & Klein seems shifty to me. | |
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StillDirrty said: Timmy84 said: Yeah like I said, MJ's "doctors" were ALL yes-men, even the guys who gave him surgery. They couldn't just say "no, Michael, you're beautiful, don't do this..." He had enablers all of his life and if someone told him no he went to some dumbass who did. It's sad to say it like this but it is and it's even more tragic because he's living three kids behind. David Gest said that the plastic surgeon was the one encouraging Michael to do more because he, MJ, and Latoya all had the same surgeon. & Chopra said that he told him no when asked for Propofol. The nurse who spoke to CNN also said that she told him no. Murray should have said no but I guess he wanted the money. & Klein seems shifty to me. Which one? Hoefflin or Klein? | |
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Timmy84 said: Chic35 said: Michael had alot of good times and NOT just when his kids showed up. He had a life we could only dream about.... A least he live a full life.After reading his story so many times, I don't know about that. If I became as world famous as he did at 10, I'd be singing "have you seen my childhood?" too. How many times are we gonna fall for the childhood thing. Life brings PAIN and PAIN brings LIFE!!! Michael had the life we all dreamed of. Michael had help at his fingertips and choose not to seek any. I am pretty sure he made up for the childhood drama, that we all probably had in our lives.  The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. | |
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Chic35 said: Timmy84 said: After reading his story so many times, I don't know about that. If I became as world famous as he did at 10, I'd be singing "have you seen my childhood?" too. How many times are we gonna fall for the childhood thing. Life brings PAIN and PAIN brings LIFE!!! Michael had the life we all dreamed of. Michael had help at his fingertips and choose not to seek any. I am pretty sure he made up for the childhood drama, that we all probably had in our lives. Whatever you say. | |
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Timmy84 said: StillDirrty said: David Gest said that the plastic surgeon was the one encouraging Michael to do more because he, MJ, and Latoya all had the same surgeon. & Chopra said that he told him no when asked for Propofol. The nurse who spoke to CNN also said that she told him no. Murray should have said no but I guess he wanted the money. & Klein seems shifty to me. Which one? Hoefflin or Klein? He didn't name the doctor but I think it was Hoefflin because remember that Klein said that he made MJ get rid of his plastic surgeon for making his nose collapse. He said that he had to go in and reconstruct the damage. [Edited 7/28/09 13:02pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: DesireeNevermind said: ^ if he didn't get while alive then no use giving it to him after he's dead.
i hate that posthumous BS. it's so fake. like when they wait till an actor dies to give them an Oscar. Celebrity welfare. Just wait you're gonna see him get a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Grammys, which they would've NEVER gave to him when he was breathing.  isn't that the one he got in early '93? janet was the presenter, and he went with brooke shields? | |
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StillDirrty said: Timmy84 said: Which one? Hoefflin or Klein? He didn't name the doctor but I think it was Hoefflin because remember that Klein said that he made MJ get rid of his plastic surgeon for making his nose collapse. He said that he had to go in and reconstruct the damage. [Edited 7/28/09 13:02pm] Yeah, that explains why Hoefflin is talking shit now. He's as guilty as Klein and Conrad are and he has the nerve to be "shocked" because MJ hung out with sharks, then who are you, HOEFFLIN? | |
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kibbles said: Timmy84 said: Just wait you're gonna see him get a Lifetime Achievement Award at the Grammys, which they would've NEVER gave to him when he was breathing. isn't that the one he got in early '93? janet was the presenter, and he went with brooke shields? No he got the Grammy Living Legend Award (I think that award has been defunct since 2000). | |
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