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Randy Jackson - "The Love We Almost Had" (1989)/ "Luv U Honey"

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I've Always loved Randy's writing -- especially this tune! From Randy and The Gypsys (1989) [A&M]


The Love We Almost Had





Luv U Honey (1989)








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Reply #1 posted 07/17/09 7:42am

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And of course, as others have noted,this tune...








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Reply #2 posted 07/17/09 8:13am

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I have Randy & the Gypsys album. I actually thought they had potential.
Luv U Honey was my favorite. I also liked Perpetrators and Gigolo
which is funkier than 90% of the music out today.
Remember an unknown Vivica Fox was in the Perpetrators video.
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Reply #3 posted 07/17/09 9:27am

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phunkdaddy said:

I have Randy & the Gypsys album. I actually thought they had potential.
Luv U Honey was my favorite. I also liked Perpetrators and Gigolo
which is funkier than 90% of the music out today.
Remember an unknown Vivica Fox was in the Perpetrators video.


I liked Luv U Honey too, but I really liked the ballads and midtempo numbers on the album, because he got to show some range and exhibit compositional and instrumental skills...Brazilian jazz guitarist Ricardo Silviera makes a few nice contributions on the album, too....

BTw, I was wondering if Bryan Loren had an arrangement with A&M at the time --I noticed that a lot of their stuff from this period-- Sting's album, Nothing Like The Sun , Vesta Williams, and this one featured some of his tunes and/or production....



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Reply #4 posted 07/17/09 9:30am

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Randy rocks!
I love this album from start to finish wink
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Reply #5 posted 07/17/09 11:32am

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Here is the video for Perpetrators btw:

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Reply #6 posted 07/17/09 11:35am

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Like I posted in another thread. Here are some other songs written or co-written by Randy.

















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manthevan said:

Like I posted in another thread. Here are some other songs written or co-written by Randy.



biggrin Ndeed! your post was the inspiration for this thread...



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Reply #9 posted 07/17/09 3:25pm

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manthevan said:

Like I posted in another thread. Here are some other songs written or co-written by Randy.



biggrin Ndeed! your post was the inspiration for this thread...



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The love we almost had is my favorit from Randy and the Gypsys. Lovely ballad with jazz and soul influences.
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Reply #10 posted 07/17/09 7:45pm

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manthevan said:



The love we almost had is my favorite from Randy and the Gypsys. Lovely ballad with jazz and soul influences.




biggrin X'actly!!!




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Reply #11 posted 07/17/09 8:09pm

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You Got A Lady reminds me of Darling Nikki
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I love his slow jams from that album. If this was promoted, this could have been big. But I read that Randy was scared (don't know of success or failure?) At an A&M label promotion show, he was scared to come out and perform.
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Reply #13 posted 07/17/09 9:59pm

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I love his slow jams from that album. If this was promoted, this could have been big. But I read that Randy was scared (don't know of success or failure?) At an A&M label promotion show, he was scared to come out and perform.


Wow @ scared to perform. Randy was really talented - excellent musician, instrumentalist and a good singer. He could have been another Prince. He played himself short. Self doubt killed his career? Sad. Great songs though.
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Reply #14 posted 07/17/09 10:07pm

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manthevan said:

Here is the video for Perpetrators btw:




Ok, why wasn't that Perpetrator song a hit. I was jamming biggrin
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yoco said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:

I love his slow jams from that album. If this was promoted, this could have been big. But I read that Randy was scared (don't know of success or failure?) At an A&M label promotion show, he was scared to come out and perform.


Wow @ scared to perform. Randy was really talented - excellent musician, instrumentalist and a good singer. He could have been another Prince. He played himself short. Self doubt killed his career? Sad. Great songs though.

Did he/the band ever go out and perform anywhere? I mean like on tour or BET or wherever at that time?

I know he was absent from the 2300 Jackson promotion (or so I read) as they were released around the same time.
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manthevan said:

Here is the video for Perpetrators btw:



He could've been the next Prince!
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midiscover said:

manthevan said:

Here is the video for Perpetrators btw:



He could've been the next Prince!

Well he was out years before Prince, so technically Prince was the first Randy Jackson. lol

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midiscover said:



He could've been the next Prince!

Well he was out years before Prince, so technically Prince was the first Randy Jackson. lol



You're right! lol

What year is that track from?
I have a feeling that Randy is responsible for starting the NJS genre
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midiscover said:

LittleBLUECorvette said:


Well he was out years before Prince, so technically Prince was the first Randy Jackson. lol



You're right! lol

What year is that track from?
I have a feeling that Randy is responsible for starting the NJS genre

That was on The Jackson 2300 Jackson Street LP released in 89, the same year as Randy & The Gypys, and know, he wasn't.
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Reply #20 posted 07/18/09 6:09pm

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

yoco said:



Wow @ scared to perform. Randy was really talented - excellent musician, instrumentalist and a good singer. He could have been another Prince. He played himself short. Self doubt killed his career? Sad. Great songs though.

Did he/the band ever go out and perform anywhere? I mean like on tour or BET or wherever at that time?

I know he was absent from the 2300 Jackson promotion (or so I read) as they were released around the same time.


I don't think he ever toured. Shame. That boy had skills. I get the feeling that if he had not been Michael Jackson's lil brother, he would have made it big. He had the looks and the talent. Although I love Janet the performer, less face it she can't really sing. Randy had the whole package. Guess not enough room on the charts for another solo Jackson.
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yoco said:

I get the feeling that if he had not been Michael Jackson's lil brother, he would have made it big. He had the looks and the talent. Although I love Janet the performer, less face it she can't really sing. Randy had the whole package. Guess not enough room on the charts for another solo Jackson.

I agree with this sentiment all the way for I used to think the same thing. I thought it was cool that Randy's band image was somewhat Mazarati-ish and I bought the album largely because I was curious to see what Randy was bringing with this type of image. I dug the album and there was no reason why his solo stuff didn't blow up. His sound was definately in pocket with what was happening sound wise at the time. But yeah, he was much better than many of the other artists that were selling big numbers at the time. So yeah, by the lack of promotion, he was doomed. He did have the whole package and a serious track record from all of the tracks that he wrote with The Jacksons so yeah, the vibe was like "Nah, we can't have ANOTHER solo Jackson on the charts..That'll be TOO fucking much, wouldn't Bill?!". "It sure fucking would Stewart."
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Not a great album, but "GIGOLO" and "PERPETRATORS" had a PRINCE/JESSE MPLS feel 2 em - IMHO, the ballads stood out, despite Randy's soft voice, MIKE or JERMAINE woulda torn em up!

RANDY = very good songwriter/musician, not a great singer un4tunately, altho', I still prefer his original "ONE MORE CHANCE" over JANET's version.
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RONNYRON said:

Not a great album, but "GIGOLO" and "PERPETRATORS" had a PRINCE/JESSE MPLS feel 2 em - IMHO, the ballads stood out, despite Randy's soft voice, MIKE or JERMAINE woulda torn em up!

RANDY = very good songwriter/musician, not a great singer un4tunately, altho', I still prefer his original "ONE MORE CHANCE" over JANET's version.
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Exactly...there was no doubt that Randy was digging the MPLS sound and image. That was clear but Randy was and had been a strong songwriter and I thought his vocals were cool enough for the stuff he was doing. Hell, his vocals were stronger than Sir Casey's with MZ so u know....He sounded better than Keith Sweat's non singing ass and he blew up. Lack of promotion.
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blackguitaristz said:

RONNYRON said:

Not a great album, but "GIGOLO" and "PERPETRATORS" had a PRINCE/JESSE MPLS feel 2 em - IMHO, the ballads stood out, despite Randy's soft voice, MIKE or JERMAINE woulda torn em up!

RANDY = very good songwriter/musician, not a great singer un4tunately, altho', I still prefer his original "ONE MORE CHANCE" over JANET's version.
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Exactly...there was no doubt that Randy was digging the MPLS sound and image. That was clear but Randy was and had been a strong songwriter and I thought his vocals were cool enough for the stuff he was doing. Hell, his vocals were stronger than Sir Casey's with MZ so u know....He sounded better than Keith Sweat's non singing ass and he blew up. Lack of promotion.



Yeah, he was definately worth a couple more 'solo' albums, his "SHE" track from 2300 JACKSON ST was a standout.
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Reply #25 posted 07/18/09 8:32pm

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I want more Randy! sad
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Love this song, never heard it so clear. Extra guitar part and his voice sounds way better. This should have charted higher than #81 on the charts.

Also, why has this never been released on a Jacksons album. This should be one one of there best of's or the recently re-released Destiny.
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