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Reply #30 posted 07/17/09 6:32pm

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SavonOsco said:

graduated high school in 1960...many of us know that Egypt(Kemet) borrowed many things from Nubia, but alot dont..u just didnt learn that in school in certain places.And yes its so simple as to grab a map and see for yourself that Egypt is part of africa.But someone on here earlier thought Isreal was part of Africa, so its just show u that alot of people was sleep during geography class..they just dropped the ball on this song thats all..cuz its still a good song


Bottom line. lol

This whole thread sounds like a geography question. lol
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Reply #31 posted 07/18/09 4:46am

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Desiree...you started a thread regarding your own paranoia?

How narcissistic are you anyway?

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Reply #32 posted 07/18/09 6:27am

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DesireeNevermind said:

yeah i still groove to it and the scrunch my nose for 5 seconds then go back to music headbang


hell yeah, it's a great song, I'm listening to it right now, the 6:15 version.... biggrin

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Reply #33 posted 07/18/09 12:16pm

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funkyandy said:

Desiree...you started a thread regarding your own paranoia?

How narcissistic are you anyway?

peace

eek



I'm God didn't you get the memo? wink confused
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Reply #34 posted 07/18/09 12:33pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Harlepolis said:



Uh whofarted

"Love Train"? lol




spit nutty Okay, here's another hint. the lyric is um...contains an error in geography. Okay I pretty much gave it away right there.


They aren't placing Israel in Africa . . . . I don't see it.
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Reply #35 posted 07/18/09 12:35pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Harlepolis said:



All of you brothers over in Africa
Tell all the folks in Egypt, and Israel, too


Right?




Yep highfive I'm sorry but that bothered me because...hello...Egypt IS in Africa. Did this dude ever look at a map or globe? Okay even though Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff wrote it, they still should know better. Imagine how many people grew up thinking the same from listening to this song. I can jam with it up till that point.

I don't think anyone listened to the O'Jays for geography lessons.
It's a debatable interpretation that they are placing Egypt outside of Africa.
But even given that interpretation, I doubt anyone insisted Egypt wasn't in Africa because the O'Jays implied it may not be.
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Reply #36 posted 07/18/09 12:36pm

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shorttrini said:

DesireeNevermind said:





Yep highfive I'm sorry but that bothered me because...hello...Egypt IS in Africa. Did this dude ever look at a map or globe? Okay even though Kenny Gamble and Leon Huff wrote it, they still should know better. Imagine how many people grew up thinking the same from listening to this song. I can jam with it up till that point.


You have to take into consideration the time that this song was written. At that time,(mid 70's) they were consider too different places. The writers of the song did not wanna rock the boat.


That doesn't fly. It's not like it's been recently discovered that Egypt is in Africa.
Nice try but that goes nowhere.
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Reply #37 posted 07/18/09 12:37pm

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datdude said:

well u know "the man" went to great lengths to SEPARATE Egypt FROM Africa (Liz Taylor as Cleopatra, white Egyptians and Charlon Heston in The 10 Commandments, etc.) lest African Americans feel some connection to the brilliant people who built the pyramids. Harder to continue to oppress and keep enslaved a people with such a rich legacy, u must keep them thinking they are soulless monkeys, who you rescued from the jungles.

but about the song, i don't think it was THAT deep. if it was ignorance on the O'Jays part or the writers, shame on them, but the ignorance was/is quite pervasive. But other songs that have shouted out locales have also vacillated between states, cities, countries.

You are mentioning films. They just weren't hiring blacks, because they couldn't open a movie nationally with a mixed cast. Theaters in the south would not have shown it.
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Reply #38 posted 07/18/09 12:40pm

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SavonOsco said:

DesireeNevermind said:




now that's deep wink


it's very deep..if u fill out government questionaires and they ask for race..you'll see white as european or africa north of the sahara and african american as people from below the sahara..(your black ass live in Algeria, u can say you're white) That's the good ole USofA for u..so back then it might not have been just a missed class in geography.its what folk really thought...many people still think egypt is part of the middle east

Egypt is a part of the Middle East, that happens to be in Africa. Middle East is a geopolitical construct, continents are not, except Europe.
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Reply #39 posted 07/18/09 12:41pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

SavonOsco said:



it's very deep..if u fill out government questionaires and they ask for race..you'll see white as european or africa north of the sahara and african american as people from below the sahara..(your black ass live in Algeria, u can say you're white) That's the good ole USofA for u..so back then it might not have been just a missed class in geography.its what folk really thought...many people still think egypt is part of the middle east



Pitiful. I mean you can go to the library and read books on Egypt and see that it's part of AFrica. Many books with pics show the countrymen/natives and they are very black. And let's not forget its next to the fucking Sudan where people there are and have pretty much always been very very black. Sudan used to be Nubia and Egypt supposedly got her shit from Nubia.


So someone who hears the song has never and will never open a book?
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Reply #40 posted 07/18/09 12:43pm

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SavonOsco said:

graduated high school in 1960...many of us know that Egypt(Kemet) borrowed many things from Nubia, but alot dont..u just didnt learn that in school in certain places.And yes its so simple as to grab a map and see for yourself that Egypt is part of africa.But someone on here earlier thought Isreal was part of Africa, so its just show u that alot of people was sleep during geography class..they just dropped the ball on this song thats all..cuz its still a good song

Are we going to go on about what people should know and don't?
That's a pretty long list . . .
If you can read, don't blame anyone else for what you know or don't know.
Don't blame school, parents, society, etc.
If you can read, you can educate yourself. Do so. . .
I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
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Reply #41 posted 07/18/09 1:20pm

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It could certainly be argued that the song is fine. It instructs the brothers in Africa to tell "all the folks in Egypt." One could argue that some of the folks in Egypt — those on the Sinai Peninsula — actually live in Asia.
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Reply #42 posted 07/18/09 3:06pm

SavonOsco

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SavonOsco said:



it's very deep..if u fill out government questionaires and they ask for race..you'll see white as european or africa north of the sahara and african american as people from below the sahara..(your black ass live in Algeria, u can say you're white) That's the good ole USofA for u..so back then it might not have been just a missed class in geography.its what folk really thought...many people still think egypt is part of the middle east

Egypt is a part of the Middle East, that happens to be in Africa. Middle East is a geopolitical construct, continents are not, except Europe.


True the Middle East is geopolitical contruct.Maybe I should've said many people think Egypt isnt part of Africa.
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Reply #43 posted 07/18/09 3:09pm

SavonOsco

SUPRMAN said:

SavonOsco said:

graduated high school in 1960...many of us know that Egypt(Kemet) borrowed many things from Nubia, but alot dont..u just didnt learn that in school in certain places.And yes its so simple as to grab a map and see for yourself that Egypt is part of africa.But someone on here earlier thought Isreal was part of Africa, so its just show u that alot of people was sleep during geography class..they just dropped the ball on this song thats all..cuz its still a good song

Are we going to go on about what people should know and don't?
That's a pretty long list . . .
If you can read, don't blame anyone else for what you know or don't know.
Don't blame school, parents, society, etc.
If you can read, you can educate yourself. Do so. . .


I'll give the cliffnotes to what i was trying to say before..they might've just dropped the ball on facts but its still a good song..its not that deep..to go any deeper would get this moved to the politics forum
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