"Pre-vitiligo and post vitiligo"...
WTF I have known 'black' people who suffered from vitiligo, and they simply just don't turn white entirely in a snap. Okay, Michael might have had that skin disease... but its a disease that results in several white spots on a 90 percent 'black' body, not an entire white body. Its obvious MJ bleached his entire body white, Vitiligo or not. | |
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Timmy84 said: RE: "BAD" - Don't take away that the album is good. But "Off the Wall" is more timeless to me. Agreed. | |
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RONNYRON said: Timmy84 said: LOL, you had me going " " for a minute. Thanks for clearing that up. Well I can see where you'll find snares in "Bad". I think new jack swing is more dated than disco tho. DISCO has had, and will always have, a longer lifespan than NJS, people still have retro/disco dress up parties, and you know "BLAME IT ON THE BOOGIE" and "DON'T STOP TIL YOU GET ENOUGH" are staples. NEW JACK SWING had a shorter life, ain't too many retro new jack parties that I know of, it was cool in it's day, but just didn't have the worldwide cultural impact that DISCO had. So in that prognosis, and IMHO - "OFF THE WALL" will be 'more' remembered than "DANGEROUS"... let the debating begin. | |
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I'd WAY rather go to a New Jack Swing party | |
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Cinnie said: I'd WAY rather go to a New Jack Swing party
I New Jack Swing.....why did it have to end????!!!! | |
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whatsgoingon said: vainandy said: "Off The Wall" is way too fast and funky for most of the kids today. "Invincible" (the only Michael Jackson album I never bought) would be more their speed. They just didn't buy it while he was alive because it was Michael Jackson that made it. I wouldn't expect the kids with the rubbish they listen to today would get something as wonderful as OFF The Wall. The less funk and the less soul the more they prefer it. That is just sad. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Cinnie said: I'd WAY rather go to a New Jack Swing party
How about techno? | |
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Timmy84 said: Cinnie said: I'd WAY rather go to a New Jack Swing party
How about techno? mid-80s techno, hell yeah | |
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Cinnie said: I'd WAY rather go to a New Jack Swing party
Me too, and I love disco! "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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Cinnie said: Timmy84 said: How about techno? mid-80s techno, hell yeah Cool. | |
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Last time I checked, be it depigmentation from vitiligo, or albinism, Michael Jackson was born and died a Black man. "POOR IS THE MAN WHO'S PLEASURES DEPEND ON THE PERMISSION OF ANOTHER" Madonna
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AlexdeParis said:[quote] midnightmover said: You seem to have a problem with applying your own experiences to everyone else. First of all, CDs became progressively more popular through the '80s and '90s. Second, there was extra incentive to buy Bad on CD because of the bonus track. You're not honestly arguing against the idea that a higher percentage of CDs of Bad and Dangerous were sold over Off the Wall and Thriller, are you? I think the point is that far more copies of Bad were sold on cassette and vinyl than CD. Even with Dangerous the majority of copies would have been sold in either one of those formats. Therefore, there should be much more people getting those albums now than there are. He has 9 albums in the Top 40, but neither of those two crucial albums are even in the Top 100. Let me repeat, neither of them are even in the Top 100! “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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estelle81 said: midnightmover said: Yeah, for me one of the last great MJ songs was "Ghosts", but you won't find it on many compilations. Man, I love "Why You Wanna Trip On Me" and I don't think I've seen it on any greatest hits compilations, but, of course, I have the album, so have never really felt the need to waste my time searching for it on a greatest hits package, but that's just me. We have to part company there. The chorus was decent on WYWTOM, but the verses to me were kind of mediocre. Just my opinion. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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graecophilos said: midnightmover said: Yeah, for me one of the last great MJ songs was "Ghosts", but you won't find it on many compilations. because the song is crap. Okay, I just listened to it again for the first time in years. The chorus is great. Verses not so good, but okay. Overall, it's not great, but much better than "crap". “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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SUPRMAN said: midnightmover said: I have to say I have mixed feelings about OTW (as I do about most MJ albums). I love the innocence of it, and how brilliantly produced it is. It seems to be his most RESPECTED album because it's not trying too hard like the others, but somehow I've never really loved it. I can't quite explain why. Because it an ok album, not a great one. Reminds me of 'Prince' and I prefer the 'Prince' album over 'Off The Wall.' 'Off the Wall' at the time was huge though for a black male artist. Other than Michael Jackson, Prince and Lionel Richie, I can't think of any other solo black male artists who've 10+ million copies of an album. Yes! The "Prince" album is a much more enjoyable listen to me than "Off The Wall". And Prince did the whole thing by himself as well! "When We're Dancing Close And Slow" is awesome! Definitely one of P's most underrated songs. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Riverpoet31 said: "Pre-vitiligo and post vitiligo"...
WTF I have known 'black' people who suffered from vitiligo, and they simply just don't turn white entirely in a snap. Okay, Michael might have had that skin disease... but its a disease that results in several white spots on a 90 percent 'black' body, not an entire white body. Its obvious MJ bleached his entire body white, Vitiligo or not. you dumb fuck. do you want a picture of his cock to satisfy your pathetic urges? fucking dumb ass. they showed the pictures on the tv for fucks sake. the doctor confirmed it himself he had vitiligo. don't be so stupid. "riverpoet"? more like "dumbfuckpoet". | |
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midnightmover said: AlexdeParis said: You seem to have a problem with applying your own experiences to everyone else. First of all, CDs became progressively more popular through the '80s and '90s. Second, there was extra incentive to buy Bad on CD because of the bonus track. You're not honestly arguing against the idea that a higher percentage of CDs of Bad and Dangerous were sold over Off the Wall and Thriller, are you? I think the point is that far more copies of Bad were sold on cassette and vinyl than CD. Even with Dangerous the majority of copies would have been sold in either one of those formats. Therefore, there should be much more people getting those albums now than there are. He has 9 albums in the Top 40, but neither of those two crucial albums are even in the Top 100. Let me repeat, neither of them are even in the Top 100! If you're talking about the UK, "Bad", "Dangerous" and "Invincible" are not charting there because they are budget albums. Albums that have a lower price listing than £3 from label to retail. Those albums are #1-3 on the Budget chart. [Edited 7/20/09 17:25pm] [Edited 7/20/09 17:25pm] Remember a smile is the quickest way to improve your apperance... | |
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I think they'll get to his later (White MJ ) work over time. Right now everyone is on a nostalgia trip with his music...they want to hear the stuff they grew up with. Facebook, I haz it - https://www.facebook.com/Nikster1969
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Nikademus said: I think they'll get to his later (White MJ ) work over time. Right now everyone is on a nostalgia trip with his music...they want to hear the stuff they grew up with.
Yeah there's no such thing as "white MJ". A better way is saying: Do you like pre-Thriller MJ or post-Thriller MJ. | |
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asaint said: midnightmover said: I think the point is that far more copies of Bad were sold on cassette and vinyl than CD. Even with Dangerous the majority of copies would have been sold in either one of those formats. Therefore, there should be much more people getting those albums now than there are. He has 9 albums in the Top 40, but neither of those two crucial albums are even in the Top 100. Let me repeat, neither of them are even in the Top 100! If you're talking about the UK, "Bad", "Dangerous" and "Invincible" are not charting there because they are budget albums. Albums that have a lower price listing than £3 from label to retail. Those albums are #1-3 on the Budget chart. Thank you. "Whitney was purely and simply one of a kind." ~ Clive Davis | |
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asaint said: midnightmover said: I think the point is that far more copies of Bad were sold on cassette and vinyl than CD. Even with Dangerous the majority of copies would have been sold in either one of those formats. Therefore, there should be much more people getting those albums now than there are. He has 9 albums in the Top 40, but neither of those two crucial albums are even in the Top 100. Let me repeat, neither of them are even in the Top 100! If you're talking about the UK, "Bad", "Dangerous" and "Invincible" are not charting there because they are budget albums. Albums that have a lower price listing than £3 from label to retail. Those albums are #1-3 on the Budget chart. [Edited 7/20/09 17:25pm] [Edited 7/20/09 17:25pm] Yeah I figure they were budgeted issues. | |
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Rogue588 said: "It doesn't matter if you're black or white".
It does matter, however, if you put out good music. Maybe people think Mike's music wasn't as strong as it was during Off the Wall, Thriller and even Bad. Out of pure and utter curiosity this last week, I've been listening to MJ. I wanted to see why folks world wide found him to still be so iconic despite the fact that it's been years since he's released anything worth listening to. Even the Thais in Bangkok all know about Micheal Jackson, and some still listen to his music. But they're listening to Thriller and Bad--not anything after that. So there's something that sticks with them about the music. I listened to everything from off-the-wall to his latest releases (Thriller was my favorite because it was the album that made me a fan during the brief stint in the 80s when I was a fan). Hearing the music again, and actually paying attention to it made me realize that MJ's music, though completely radical at that time (R&B/Rock/dance combos), is pretty standard fair today. In Off-the-wall and Thriller he croons with the best of them, harmonizing with a very very nice if strangely androgynous voice. But the songs are meant to be sung along to--not to be studied and dissected like many of Prince's better works (or works by artists I most admire). So, it was very difficult for me to hold interest after playing his stuff for awhile. I found myself wanting desperately to skip tracks on all the albums. So the only thing I have to go by is this 'sing along' impulse the songs and albums inspire, and Thriller and Off-the-wall outdo all the new material. So yeah--black MJ, at least to me, is better than white MJ. hid to his edit [Edited 7/20/09 18:01pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: Nikademus said: I think they'll get to his later (White MJ ) work over time. Right now everyone is on a nostalgia trip with his music...they want to hear the stuff they grew up with.
Yeah there's no such thing as "white MJ". A better way is saying: Do you like pre-Thriller MJ or post-Thriller MJ. yeah, not I prefer the "High Yella" MJ to the "Black" MJ. God people are retarded . | |
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NastradumasKid said: Timmy84 said: Yeah there's no such thing as "white MJ". A better way is saying: Do you like pre-Thriller MJ or post-Thriller MJ. yeah, not I prefer the "High Yella" MJ to the "Black" MJ. God people are retarded . Exactly. | |
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Timmy84 said: NastradumasKid said: yeah, not I prefer the "High Yella" MJ to the "Black" MJ. God people are retarded . Exactly. God, you guys need to get a sense of humour. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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midnightmover said: Timmy84 said: Exactly. God, you guys need to get a sense of humour. Dude, we have a sense a humor it's just beyond your fucking level and if you want to start something then bring it [Edited 7/20/09 18:37pm] | |
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Well we have different senses of humor then. | |
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asaint said: midnightmover said: I think the point is that far more copies of Bad were sold on cassette and vinyl than CD. Even with Dangerous the majority of copies would have been sold in either one of those formats. Therefore, there should be much more people getting those albums now than there are. He has 9 albums in the Top 40, but neither of those two crucial albums are even in the Top 100. Let me repeat, neither of them are even in the Top 100! If you're talking about the UK, "Bad", "Dangerous" and "Invincible" are not charting there because they are budget albums. Albums that have a lower price listing than £3 from label to retail. Those albums are #1-3 on the Budget chart. [Edited 7/20/09 17:25pm] [Edited 7/20/09 17:25pm] I see. God, you really can't trust charts these days. It's like how they don't include compilations by various artists in the main charts anymore either because it would show up how they're outselling original albums. So I assume white MJ is getting some love too. I'm still not seeing the posters though. And funnily enough since I started this thread I've seen black girls on the street singing "Rock With You" and "Beat It", and seen a remix of "Rock With You" on a satellite music channel. The video was just the old one, but with the remix playing. It made me appreciate Michael's performance there for the first time. He looks a lot happier and "normal" then. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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NastradumasKid said: midnightmover said: God, you guys need to get a sense of humour. Dude, we have a sense a humor it's just beyond your fucking level and if you want to start something then bring it [Edited 7/20/09 18:37pm] Yeah, but subtle humour obviously goes under you radar completely. Americans.... “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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you dumb fuck.
do you want a picture of his cock to satisfy your pathetic urges? fucking dumb ass. they showed the pictures on the tv for fucks sake. the doctor confirmed it himself he had vitiligo. don't be so stupid. "riverpoet"? more like "dumbfuckpoet". Do you think you are making an argument here by namecalling? As I said, Vitiligo doesnt make the entire skin of a person 'white'. Its a matter of spreaded spots. I never said he didnt have virtiligo (which i doubt by the way), I only said his totally white face, chest, arms and hands show he has done a lot of bleeching of his skin. If anyone is pathetic here its you: people like you defending shit like Michael is totally white now, because he has THIS skin disease, or he can't sing live anymore because he has THAT lung-disease. There is ALWAYS an easy (often misplaced) excuse by the likes of you, to keep portraying MJ as some semi-god you have created in your own mind. | |
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