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Thread started 07/12/09 12:01am

Sandino

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Was Stevie Wonder the first to Vocally Multi-track?

Everyone says Marvin Gaye was but dig this song.



Yes not the most complex example, but the hook shows Stevie is multitracking. And correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Where I"m coming From Released before What's going on?

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Reply #1 posted 07/12/09 12:14am

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I'm guessing Little Richard was the first.
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Reply #2 posted 07/12/09 12:16am

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"Because" by the Beatles (Lennon) comes to mind.
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Reply #3 posted 07/12/09 12:20am

Sandino

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

I'm guessing Little Richard was the first.


lol little richard is always the first to do everything. I think he was the first gay black american R&B?Rock N Roll musician to land on the moon wink
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Reply #4 posted 07/12/09 1:03am

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wasn't it ray charles. they document it in the movie ray. no one had ever done over dubs. ray sang all of the background harmonies on a few songs
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Reply #5 posted 07/12/09 2:22am

Timmy84

It was Ray Charles, Sandino. He did it on "I Believe to My Soul" way back in 1959. The first Motown act to use multi-tracking was The Supremes with Diana Ross' vocals recorded twice. Marvin was using multi-tracking as early as 1968 ("You're a Son of a Gun", "It's a Desperate Situation"). Plus "What's Going On" the single was out in January 1971 (and recorded in June of 1970) so Stevie's song came right afterwards in both recording and release.

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Reply #6 posted 07/12/09 2:24am

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babybrutha said:

wasn't it ray charles. they document it in the movie ray. no one had ever done over dubs. ray sang all of the background harmonies on a few songs


Ray got into a fight with Margie over him not leaving his wife for her and the fight escalated when they were in the studio recording the song. Ray sent them home and then told his producer he had an idea, so he brought in one woman to do the "oh Johnny" part while Ray did everything else (in the backgrounds). I'm sure some others used multi-tracking before this but this was an early indicator.

What Marvin did with his multi-tracking vocals was he did it in a way where, like Ray, he could create three or four part harmony. Ray would do this off and on during his career, he did it with his version of "Living for the City" (besides the Raelettes).
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Reply #7 posted 07/12/09 2:42am

Timmy84

Anyway, for Sandino, here's Marvin doing it in 1968, two years before "What's Going On" and three years before "If You Really Love Me" and nine years after Ray:



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Reply #8 posted 07/12/09 3:59am

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Stevie was not the first.

The Bs did it since 1963 - the second Bs album.
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Reply #9 posted 07/12/09 1:48pm

SPYZFAN1

Les Paul and Mary Ford had a song back in the 50's (?) called "How High The Moon"..That may have been the 1st multi-tracked song (guitar and vocal wise).

Les was considered the father of multitracking.
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Reply #10 posted 07/12/09 1:56pm

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What is vocal multi tracking?
"Lack of home training crosses all boundaries."
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Reply #11 posted 07/12/09 1:59pm

funkpill

Sam Cooke did it on a few of his tunes too
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Reply #12 posted 07/12/09 2:00pm

SPYZFAN1

Yup. Sam did it too.
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Reply #13 posted 07/12/09 2:47pm

Harlepolis

Ray Charles did it before them in his song I Believe. Check the movie nod
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Reply #14 posted 07/12/09 2:48pm

Timmy84

funkpill said:

Sam Cooke did it on a few of his tunes too


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"Good Times" is a good example. biggrin
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Reply #15 posted 07/12/09 2:50pm

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Harlepolis said:

Ray Charles did it before them in his song I Believe. Check the movie nod


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Reply #16 posted 07/12/09 2:53pm

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Timmy84 said:

funkpill said:

Sam Cooke did it on a few of his tunes too


nod

"Good Times" is a good example. biggrin



yup nod


ashame to say when i realize that he was singing background as well boxed

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Reply #17 posted 07/12/09 2:54pm

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funkpill said:

Timmy84 said:



nod

"Good Times" is a good example. biggrin



yup nod


ashame to say when i realize that he was singing background as well boxed

lol


I had to make sure too. Sounds can be deceiving. lol Wasn't he singing in the background along with Lou Rawls on "Bring It On Home to Me"?
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Reply #18 posted 07/12/09 3:21pm

funkpill

yup biggrin
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Reply #19 posted 07/12/09 3:23pm

Timmy84

funkpill said:

yup biggrin


nod I figured that because the voices sounded familiar when Sam would sing his verses, you heard his leading high tenor with a lower tenor, lol.
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Reply #20 posted 07/12/09 3:26pm

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what exactly is vocal multi-tracking?

when the same person records multiple vocal tracks for one song?

Or is it just having multiple vocal parts on a song?
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Reply #21 posted 07/12/09 3:29pm

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coolcat said:

what exactly is vocal multi-tracking?

when the same person records multiple vocal tracks for one song?

Or is it just having multiple vocal parts on a song?


It's having multiple vocal parts for a song.

A singer will use two or three different background vocal parts that find them in different octaves, then either he or the producer mixes them together to make it part of the background melody. That's why Ray, Marvin, Stevie, MJ and Prince were so great with it.
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Reply #22 posted 07/12/09 3:53pm

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Timmy84 said:

coolcat said:

what exactly is vocal multi-tracking?

when the same person records multiple vocal tracks for one song?

Or is it just having multiple vocal parts on a song?


It's having multiple vocal parts for a song.

A singer will use two or three different background vocal parts that find them in different octaves, then either he or the producer mixes them together to make it part of the background melody. That's why Ray, Marvin, Stevie, MJ and Prince were so great with it.


Thanks. smile Do you know what the first multitrack recording ever was? hmmm
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Reply #23 posted 07/12/09 3:59pm

Timmy84

coolcat said:

Timmy84 said:



It's having multiple vocal parts for a song.

A singer will use two or three different background vocal parts that find them in different octaves, then either he or the producer mixes them together to make it part of the background melody. That's why Ray, Marvin, Stevie, MJ and Prince were so great with it.


Thanks. smile Do you know what the first multitrack recording ever was? hmmm


The earliest was Ray Charles' "I Believe to My Soul" as far as solo artists go but I saw a Carpenters documentary and it said some duo, I forget their name, you gonna have to go to YouTube and type in Carpenters biography or Carpenters documentary but anyway, Richard said the duo inspired them to do multi-track vocals. So that may be your answer, lol.
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Reply #24 posted 07/12/09 4:15pm

coolcat

Timmy84 said:

coolcat said:



Thanks. smile Do you know what the first multitrack recording ever was? hmmm


The earliest was Ray Charles' "I Believe to My Soul" as far as solo artists go but I saw a Carpenters documentary and it said some duo, I forget their name, you gonna have to go to YouTube and type in Carpenters biography or Carpenters documentary but anyway, Richard said the duo inspired them to do multi-track vocals. So that may be your answer, lol.


Sorry... I meant any multitracking... not necessarily vocal... I was trying to look it up... I think Elvis was the first to use multitrack recording of any kind...
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Reply #25 posted 07/12/09 4:22pm

Timmy84

coolcat said:

Timmy84 said:



The earliest was Ray Charles' "I Believe to My Soul" as far as solo artists go but I saw a Carpenters documentary and it said some duo, I forget their name, you gonna have to go to YouTube and type in Carpenters biography or Carpenters documentary but anyway, Richard said the duo inspired them to do multi-track vocals. So that may be your answer, lol.


Sorry... I meant any multitracking... not necessarily vocal... I was trying to look it up... I think Elvis was the first to use multitrack recording of any kind...


Oh OK, lol.
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Reply #26 posted 07/12/09 6:38pm

funkpill

I think Elvis invented the guitar too rolleyes
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Reply #27 posted 07/12/09 7:05pm

scriptgirl

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Can someone list a good prince song that has multi tracking on it?
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Reply #28 posted 07/12/09 7:14pm

Timmy84

funkpill said:

I think Elvis invented the guitar too rolleyes


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Reply #29 posted 07/12/09 9:17pm

Sdldawn

The Beatles were doing it around their 3 or 4th album.
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