Timmy84 said:

Do you think those drugs were from China?! they been selling us all kinds of poisonous products!

Marrk said:

I just posted the Associated Press report and MJ's thing is not related.

The Scramble Begins for New Michael Jackson Songs




Ownership of up to 150 unreleased songs, including a comeback album, may be up for grabs among Sony and other music labels
By Ronald Grover

To add to the many mysteries surrounding the untimely death of music superstar Michael Jackson, now industry sources are buzzing over who owns the rights to a large number of unreleased songs that the performer recorded over the last decade. That includes some that were almost certainly to be released to coincide with his scheduled 50 concerts at London's O2 arena that were to have begun on July 13.

At issue is whether Sony (SNE), whose Epic Records label released Jackson's last six original albums, has the rights to the new music. Jackson's deal with Sony, which also released two compilations of his music, ended with the 2001 release of his Invincible album. But in the sometimes convoluted world of music contracts, Jackson still could owe music to the Japanese company, according to one high-ranking source with knowledge of the deal.

Another source with knowledge of the Jackson estate, however, says that the musician's estate has begun a lengthy inventory of the estimated 150 songs the singer left, to determine whether they may be free of Sony and thus available to be peddled to another record label for a likely hefty up-front payment.

The 150 unreleased songs are said to include a potential comeback album that Jackson was preparing. He had recorded several songs with leading hip-hop artists, including Will.i.am, and with Senegalese pop artist Akon. Veteran music producer Bruce Swedien, who worked on Jackson's mammoth Thriller album, told USA Today that he and Jackson "had a bunch of things in the works," mostly pop songs.

Special Administrators' Role
Music industry sources say they expect Jackson's longtime manager, John Branca, who on July 6 was named one of two "special administrators" of the estate, to try to stoke a bidding war among labels to get the highest royalty he can for any new album. His fellow "special administrator," John McClain, a longtime Jackson family friend and record company executive, has been put in charge of reviewing the unreleased music. Some of the unreleased music is said to date back to Jackson's Motown days in the early 1970s, when he released albums such as his 1972 solo debut Got to Be There, according to one source with knowledge of the estate.

Neither Branca nor McClain would comment. A Los Angeles Superior Court judge is expected to decide whether to grant the two men permanent status as the Jackson estate executors at an Aug. 3 hearing.

But the struggle for who gets the next album may have already begun. Epic President Amanda Ghost told Britain's digital radio network BBC 6 Music on July 9 that she has "no idea when [a new album] is coming out, but it will come out on Sony/Epic." Epic officials immediately said she had been misquoted, although one source with knowledge of Sony's dealings says the Japanese company maintains the rights through 2011 to all Michael Jackson songs. Those are the conditions contained in his original contract, this source says, which also included the "reversion" to Jackson of the "masters" of his songs at that point. Under a reversion, a recording artist gets back the rights to all of his music, including both new music and music that has been released, according to music industry sources.

New-Album Roadblock Till 2012?
That may mean that Branca could try to block Sony for the next two and a half years from using new Michael Jackson music for an album, thus giving Branca the right to negotiate a deal to distribute music through another label. That would effectively pit most of the music industry against Sony in a potential bidding war, says one current label executive. Once Jackson's estate is out of the contract with Sony, says University of Southern California law professor Lance Grode, a former head of worldwide business affairs for MCA Music, it would have wide latitude to distribute Jackson's music how it wishes, even doing so without a music label.

If there is such a free-for-all, there would be no shortage of takers. Universal Music Group, which owns the Motown label, would likely be interested. This month, the Vivendi-owned (VIV.PA) music company began distributing more than 300 types of Michael Jackson merchandise to retail outlets, including sunglasses and clothes, some of which Jackson had designed. Warner Music Group (WMG) would likely also be interested since it administers the publishing rights to Jackson's music under his MiJack catalog, by which other musicians pay royalties to use the words to Jackson's songs. Universal and Warner executives would not comment.

At this point, however, all roads seem to go through Sony, at least according to a former executive at Sony Music Entertainment, who believes that Sony has already catalogued Jackson's new music and would have first call on what it wants for a new album. Tommy Mottola, a former chairman and CEO of Sony Music, agrees. "Sony is in an ideal position right now to sell tons of Michael Jackson catalog, collector's sets, unreleased music, and packaged music," he says. Sony executives would not comment on what rights they possess or their plans for releasing any Michael Jackson material.

http://www.businessweek.c...960673.htm

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I seriously doubt that.

Evvy said:

I have no issues with your opinion. I don't run around acting like I'm perfect. I bare all my ghosts to everyone. I had my opinion about Michael Jackson when he was alive and I have my opinion even though he's passed

you guys still talking about this shit

errant said:

Yeah, I'm restrained

Or maybe this is what will turned out:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w...n_syndrome

Propofol infusion syndrome is a rare syndrome which affects patients undergoing long-term treatment with high doses of the anaesthetic and sedative drug Propofol. It can lead to cardiac failure, rhabdomyolysis, metabolic acidosis and renal failure and is often fatal.

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seeingvoices12 said:

I guess they ain't scared of Madea's gun. She shoots people for stupid shit.

Has LaToya come out and denied that last interview where she (supposedly) talked about so many details like how she dressed him for the service and the paternity of the kids?

Hopefully they will release the new material as an album, instead of giving us a box set filed with new stuff, old demo's and filler. I hope they can edit together a proper studio album.
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Timmy84 said:

lilgish said:

I think there gonna be wars between labels on the unreleased material.

Serena said:

Not yet.

Serena said:

No and apparently LaToya was PAID to do the interview, maybe a rumor, then again...

I really love Paris, she has such a strong spirit, and in so many pictures she's holding on to her father.

it's still unreal...


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lilgish said:

this is really sweet and totally heartbreaking.

I still thing AEG is covering their asses.

How do we know that Michael hired Conrad Murray? AEG might have been the one.

Remember good old Randy Phillips quote about bringing all these new people and to block access of others into MJ's life.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

are you being sarcastic

seeingvoices12 said:

No! Michael Jackson's ridiculousness I detest. Those innocent kids, I do not.

Marrk said:

So you think MJ was murdered?

Timmy84 said:

Thanks Timmy & Haterina. Dang, if that's a valid interview, she just spilled her guts all over the place!

Serena said:

Yeah it does look like it's valid. She or her agent haven't denied it yet and it's been out for a good minute.

I don't think certain people wanted him out of debt. I want to see how his lawyers handle the catalog and the other assets before I turn an eye towards them. I do believe many people conspired against MJ in his life, but he was so negligent in his affairs and his dealings with people.....Dieter Wiesner.....Dr. Tohme Tohme.....

I wish I could have done something to help him, how silly is that? I can just imagine to would have's and should haves ppl like janet and his bro's must be facing.

He looked decent during the rehearsals and supposedly was weening himself of the meds. Sometimes people can't sleep and experience the different temperatures when they do this, according to Dr Drew on Larry King last night.

I think Conrad Murray is going down, but would MJ still be alive if he didn't agree to doing these shows?

When was it that Marlon saw MJ with an afro wig in record store? Was it recently?

But that's the point we don't know what would've happened had MJ not died and went on and did the shows...

As for MJ's estate:

Michael Jackson's estate open for business

By LINDA DEUTSCH – 17 hours ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Two weeks after Michael Jackson's death, administrators of his estate are temporarily authorized to reopen for business and negotiate, among other things, agreements relating to the singer's ill-fated "This Is It" concert tour.

While fans in London on Monday lit candles and placed flowers outside the 02 Arena where the entertainer was due to begin his run of 50 concerts, lawyers were in a Los Angeles Superior Court ironing out details of the powers given to two men named by Jackson to administer his estate.

Superior Court Judge Mitchell Beckloff conferred wide-ranging authority on attorney John Branca and recording executive John McClain, at least until Aug. 3 when another hearing is scheduled.

The list of powers for the administrators includes taking control of all of Jackson's physical assets and placing them in secure storage facilities; hiring people with expertise in handling various aspects of the estate with fees subject to court approval; and handling tax matters.

The judge also authorized Branca and McClain to negotiate with AEG, the producers of the concert, for the benefit of the estate.

Attorney Paul Gordon Hoffman, a member of the team representing Branca and McClain, said a quick court order was needed so the two men could "begin to take the actions necessary to preserve the assets of the estate and address the needs" of Jackson's three children.

Meanwhile, papers filed in court showed Jackson's mother, Katherine, is seeking a stronger role in her late son's affairs.

Hoffman said in a nine-page declaration that as late as 4:10 p.m. Sunday, an attorney for the Jackson family sent an e-mail "stating that it was his intent to have the order reflect that Katherine Jackson should be treated like a third trustee."

Hoffman argued that to gain that power, attorneys for Katherine Jackson would need to appear and submit a competing proposed order. No such order was submitted.

The judge signed the papers without hearing further argument.

Hoffman said in his filing that Branca and McClain have been submitting to Katherine Jackson's lawyers "voluminous and continuous information on the business opportunities being presented and their responses or intended responses."

Hoffman said Katherine Jackson's lawyers "have stated that they were pleased with the information being provided, and that their objections were not predicated on the actual provision of information, but rather on the lack of a formal role for Katherine Jackson or a court-ordered requirement that the information be provided."

Attorney Burt Levitch, who appeared for Katherine Jackson, referred questions to New York lawyer Londell McMillan. A call to McMillan was not immediately returned on Monday. Branca's lawyer, Howard Weitzman, declined to comment.

Beckloff stated at a hearing July 6 that he was not appointing Katherine Jackson as a co-administrator but suggested she should be kept aware of what the administrators are doing. He suggested he should be notified as well.

Also Monday, the judge formally revoked his earlier order that gave Katherine Jackson limited powers over some of her son's possessions when it was believed he died without a will.

Jackson died on June 25, leaving a will that provided for a trust to be administered by Branca and McClain. The beneficiaries named were his mother, his three children and an unnamed group of children's charities.

AP Business Writer Ryan Nakashima contributed to this report.

Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

Even though most people are past this topic now, I still think Michaels sensitivity combined with the jehovahs witness religion is what messed him up sexually. Whether he was gay or straight I think he repressed his sexual feelings towards anyone, except Lisa Marie because he thought he had to because he was married. And even if he was peadophilically inclined I think he repressed those feelings too. I think he just thought sex was wrong. Thats not to say I think he was asexual. Just repressed.

Which is why I keep going on about Katherines role in everything. As loving and nice a person she is, her beliefs were selfish and destuctive, and I'm really angry at her right now looking back on Michaels problems.

Note. I do NOT think he had peadophillic thoughts, I just think most people arent used to a man having such strong platonic feelings for children without thinking something sinister, but I thought to bring it up as an option anyway.
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Not exactly, manslaughter is what i'm leaning towards, it'd be very easy for a major corporation to get a quack to take major $'s and administer more than Mike either 'wanted' or 'needed', then feign ignorance as to where he was address-wise despite being one street up from Sunset Boulevard.

not able to get a phone in the house?, a doc with no mobile phone? Administer CPR on a bed rather than a hard surface?, this quack was supposed to be a cardioligist!

the guy who answered the 911 call told the caller to move him to the floor, but the tape doesn't suggest that was done immediately either, the amount of time from the call, to the official time of death, despite living only about 6 miles away from the Reagan Hospital was nearly two hours! Why did it take half an hour to call 911 in the first place?



Something fishy and dark happened i think.
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http://music.msn.com/musi...>1=28102

Nurse: Police say Jackson's body had track marks

July 14, 2009, 4:34 PM EST
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- A nurse-nutritionist who worked with Michael Jackson says she was interviewed by Los Angeles homicide detectives who told her that needle marks were found on the pop singer's body.

Cherilyn Lee said Tuesday that she told the detectives that she didn't see any so-called "track marks" on Jackson's arms when she provided vitamins and other supplements earlier this year.

Lee also was asked by the detectives Friday if she saw bruising on Jackson. Lee said she didn't but told police that Jackson's veins made placing an IV needle difficult, which could result in bruising.

Lee has said that Jackson asked her for a powerful anesthetic to alleviate his insomnia. She said she refused to help him get access to the drug, which was found in his home.

WILL THE MODERATOR REMOVE THAT CASKET PICTURE PLEASE

people that picture is fake if you go on you tube there are various terrible photo shopped photos of him supposed last photos of him in the casket.