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Reply #1740 posted 07/18/09 11:05pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

errant said:




was listening to HIStory earlier today.... there really is a dearth of romantic love song type ballads on there. there's only "You Are Not Alone"...

same for Dangerous, for that matter, really.

glad he pulled some out for Invincible. as unconvincing as I thought they were at the time, they ended up being my favorite tracks from that album.

Yeah, Heaven Can Wait was an immediate standout for me.



at the time, the songs really kind of stood out because it was a little weird hearing him do love songs again, considering how asexual he'd become, plus his appearance, plus the allegations, etc.

in retrospect, i think what made them stand out and seem weird but wonderful on Invincible and on The Ultimate Collection was the fact that he had barely put out any love ballads since... oh god, when? Bad?
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Reply #1741 posted 07/18/09 11:10pm

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errant said:

dreamfactory313 said:


Yeah, Heaven Can Wait was an immediate standout for me.



at the time, the songs really kind of stood out because it was a little weird hearing him do love songs again, considering how asexual he'd become, plus his appearance, plus the allegations, etc.

in retrospect, i think what made them stand out and seem weird but wonderful on Invincible and on The Ultimate Collection was the fact that he had barely put out any love ballads since... oh god, when? Bad?

Yeah. It really did seem like a return to love ballads, now that you remind me. He had done those kinda "Heal The World" type ballads but no ballads relating to another in a sexual or sensual manner and he's really good at it.
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Reply #1742 posted 07/18/09 11:12pm

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errant said:

dreamfactory313 said:


Yeah, Heaven Can Wait was an immediate standout for me.



at the time, the songs really kind of stood out because it was a little weird hearing him do love songs again, considering how asexual he'd become, plus his appearance, plus the allegations, etc.

in retrospect, i think what made them stand out and seem weird but wonderful on Invincible and on The Ultimate Collection was the fact that he had barely put out any love ballads since... oh god, when? Bad?


Yeah that was weird indeed.
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Reply #1743 posted 07/18/09 11:13pm

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Chic35 said:

Grace Rwaramba's Creepy High School Year Book Entrys

Michael Jackson's former nanny Grace Rwaramba fulfilled most of her high school fantasies when she became a part of MJ's life -- as her old high school yearbook spells out multiple times.

Michael Jackson is mentioned four separate times in her 1985 senior yearbook from The Academy of the Holy Family in Connecticut. In one section, classmates predicting Rwaramba would marry the singer and have her "own generation of Jackson 5."

Jacked from TMZ...LOL! lol





well hell, at least he didn't marry her... like Prince does with his fans. lol
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Reply #1744 posted 07/18/09 11:13pm

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errant said:

Chic35 said:

The Real Billie Jean Is Crazy



Delve into a world of intrigue, love, sex and manipulation as you enter the real life world of Theresa Gonsalves, known as the real Billie Jean in Michael Jackson's life! Theresa Gonsalves grew up in a fantasy world of Michael Jackson. She wrote him numerous letters that intrigued him which led Michael to cultivate a relationship with her after they meet on her 16th birthday. As time goes on, the friendship between them is nurtured. But while trying to develop a relationship with another man, Theresa finds herself pregnant and turns to Michael. Her baby's father denies the kid as being his son. Michael is privy to this information and soon the song Billie Jean is released.

When Star Magazine finds out about their relationship, they dub her the Real Billie Jean in Michael Jackson's life, as many believe the song was written about her. By nurturing this fantasy come true, Theresa never learned to grow in other man-woman relationships leading to the development of an alter personality called Terri. Terri would surface whenever she felt Theresa needed avenging! Theresa endures many trials in her life from being neglected by her mother, to being raped; to finding, she has a terminal disease. She finds love with Vincent Oliver. Vincent Oliver, a good looking man living with psychological issues of his own, lives his life by a prophecy set upon his mother's death.

By not accepting his mother's death his psychological make up becomes scrambled as he takes on the life of a dissociative liar, becoming a chameleon. He seeks love, respect and adoration as he takes on different personalities.truly believing, he was a different person in each context. Theresa and Vincent become obsessed with each other in a variety of ways, making the relationship endure what should have destroyed it. They were obsessed with each other sexually.obsessed with each other's touch, scent and overall being. They survive many manipulative and fatal acts by one another even as Theresa gives birth to his son. As they overcome these issues, they finally settle down and begin planning their lives together.

However, unbeknownst to Theresa, he is still married to Cynthia and in yet another relationship with Edna, while venturing into the world of sex clubs and what now is referred to as being on the down-low! In addition, Vincent, an educated man with a master's degree, takes on the personality of a thief and embezzles 250K and when Theresa finds out about his deceptions, Terri decides to turn him in to the Secret Service. As she does so, Vincent turns into a chameleon once again as he and his father discuss plans to kill her.



is this fanfic? lol



eek eek omg Damn that's so fucking scary.....it sounds almost unreal. I read that MJ would be horrified at all the fan letters, describing about how they're going have sex with him hell, even going as far as suicide. ill
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Reply #1745 posted 07/18/09 11:13pm

Timmy84

OK Grace, that is creepy... eek
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Reply #1746 posted 07/18/09 11:15pm

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Timmy84 said:

OK Grace, that is creepy... eek

Isnt it? My goodness.
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Reply #1747 posted 07/18/09 11:16pm

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errant said:

Chic35 said:

Grace Rwaramba's Creepy High School Year Book Entrys

Michael Jackson's former nanny Grace Rwaramba fulfilled most of her high school fantasies when she became a part of MJ's life -- as her old high school yearbook spells out multiple times.

Michael Jackson is mentioned four separate times in her 1985 senior yearbook from The Academy of the Holy Family in Connecticut. In one section, classmates predicting Rwaramba would marry the singer and have her "own generation of Jackson 5."

Jacked from TMZ...LOL! lol





well hell, at least he didn't marry her... like Prince does with his fans. lol


I doubt Prince learned his lesson about that, however. BTW about this Grace girl, man she's CREE-PY omg
[Edited 7/18/09 23:17pm]
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Reply #1748 posted 07/18/09 11:18pm

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Timmy84 said:

OK Grace, that is creepy... eek


you're not wrong
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Reply #1749 posted 07/18/09 11:20pm

NastradumasKid

That, "The Real Billie Jean" story was downright crazy and sick.
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Reply #1750 posted 07/18/09 11:22pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

errant said:




was listening to HIStory earlier today.... there really is a dearth of romantic love song type ballads on there. there's only "You Are Not Alone"...

same for Dangerous, for that matter, really.

glad he pulled some out for Invincible. as unconvincing as I thought they were at the time, they ended up being my favorite tracks from that album.

Yeah, Heaven Can Wait was an immediate standout for me.

so Heaven Can Wait was supposed to be on Dangerous? Never knew that (wasn't keeping up really lol ) - that's 1 of the 4 I like from Invincible nod
[Edited 7/18/09 23:23pm]
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Reply #1751 posted 07/18/09 11:23pm

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Dom Deluise~ "Then his older brother told him to "Beat It". eek lol
[Edited 7/18/09 23:26pm]
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Reply #1752 posted 07/18/09 11:25pm

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CalhounSq said:

dreamfactory313 said:


Yeah, Heaven Can Wait was an immediate standout for me.

so Heaven Can Wait was supposed to be on Dangerous?



it was? confuse
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Reply #1753 posted 07/18/09 11:27pm

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errant said:

Chic35 said:

Grace Rwaramba's Creepy High School Year Book Entrys

Michael Jackson's former nanny Grace Rwaramba fulfilled most of her high school fantasies when she became a part of MJ's life -- as her old high school yearbook spells out multiple times.

Michael Jackson is mentioned four separate times in her 1985 senior yearbook from The Academy of the Holy Family in Connecticut. In one section, classmates predicting Rwaramba would marry the singer and have her "own generation of Jackson 5."

Jacked from TMZ...LOL! lol





well hell, at least he didn't marry her... like Prince does with his fans. lol




It's been rumors that they were married. I bet Grace did her happy dance when Michael Jackson hired her ass!
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Reply #1754 posted 07/18/09 11:33pm

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"We use to sell our pictures" lol
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Reply #1755 posted 07/18/09 11:41pm

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CalhounSq said:

dreamfactory313 said:


Yeah, Heaven Can Wait was an immediate standout for me.

so Heaven Can Wait was supposed to be on Dangerous? Never knew that (wasn't keeping up really lol ) - that's 1 of the 4 I like from Invincible nod
[Edited 7/18/09 23:23pm]

I'm not sure about that but Teddy Riley is currently working on the new Blackstreet album and said he wants to re-record that song with Blackstreet for their new project because he loves it so much. He is waiting on clearance from the estate or Sony to use it.
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Reply #1756 posted 07/18/09 11:46pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

CalhounSq said:


so Heaven Can Wait was supposed to be on Dangerous? Never knew that (wasn't keeping up really lol ) - that's 1 of the 4 I like from Invincible nod
[Edited 7/18/09 23:23pm]

I'm not sure about that but Teddy Riley is currently working on the new Blackstreet album and said he wants to re-record that song with Blackstreet for their new project because he loves it so much. He is waiting on clearance from the estate or Sony to use it.



Teddy Riley??? I heard he was in finacial debt. confuse
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Reply #1757 posted 07/18/09 11:47pm

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NastradumasKid said:

dreamfactory313 said:


I'm not sure about that but Teddy Riley is currently working on the new Blackstreet album and said he wants to re-record that song with Blackstreet for their new project because he loves it so much. He is waiting on clearance from the estate or Sony to use it.



Teddy Riley??? I heard he was in finacial debt. confuse

Ive heard that too. We'll see what happens.
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Reply #1758 posted 07/18/09 11:47pm

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Chic35 said:

The Real Billie Jean Is Crazy



Delve into a world of intrigue, love, sex and manipulation as you enter the real life world of Theresa Gonsalves, known as the real Billie Jean in Michael Jackson's life! Theresa Gonsalves grew up in a fantasy world of Michael Jackson. She wrote him numerous letters that intrigued him which led Michael to cultivate a relationship with her after they meet on her 16th birthday. As time goes on, the friendship between them is nurtured. But while trying to develop a relationship with another man, Theresa finds herself pregnant and turns to Michael. Her baby's father denies the kid as being his son. Michael is privy to this information and soon the song Billie Jean is released.

When Star Magazine finds out about their relationship, they dub her the Real Billie Jean in Michael Jackson's life, as many believe the song was written about her. By nurturing this fantasy come true, Theresa never learned to grow in other man-woman relationships leading to the development of an alter personality called Terri. Terri would surface whenever she felt Theresa needed avenging! Theresa endures many trials in her life from being neglected by her mother, to being raped; to finding, she has a terminal disease. She finds love with Vincent Oliver. Vincent Oliver, a good looking man living with psychological issues of his own, lives his life by a prophecy set upon his mother's death.

By not accepting his mother's death his psychological make up becomes scrambled as he takes on the life of a dissociative liar, becoming a chameleon. He seeks love, respect and adoration as he takes on different personalities.truly believing, he was a different person in each context. Theresa and Vincent become obsessed with each other in a variety of ways, making the relationship endure what should have destroyed it. They were obsessed with each other sexually.obsessed with each other's touch, scent and overall being. They survive many manipulative and fatal acts by one another even as Theresa gives birth to his son. As they overcome these issues, they finally settle down and begin planning their lives together.

However, unbeknownst to Theresa, he is still married to Cynthia and in yet another relationship with Edna, while venturing into the world of sex clubs and what now is referred to as being on the down-low! In addition, Vincent, an educated man with a master's degree, takes on the personality of a thief and embezzles 250K and when Theresa finds out about his deceptions, Terri decides to turn him in to the Secret Service. As she does so, Vincent turns into a chameleon once again as he and his father discuss plans to kill her.



eek eek
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Reply #1759 posted 07/18/09 11:50pm

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EmeraldSkies said:

Chic35 said:

The Real Billie Jean Is Crazy



Delve into a world of intrigue, love, sex and manipulation as you enter the real life world of Theresa Gonsalves, known as the real Billie Jean in Michael Jackson's life! Theresa Gonsalves grew up in a fantasy world of Michael Jackson. She wrote him numerous letters that intrigued him which led Michael to cultivate a relationship with her after they meet on her 16th birthday. As time goes on, the friendship between them is nurtured. But while trying to develop a relationship with another man, Theresa finds herself pregnant and turns to Michael. Her baby's father denies the kid as being his son. Michael is privy to this information and soon the song Billie Jean is released.

When Star Magazine finds out about their relationship, they dub her the Real Billie Jean in Michael Jackson's life, as many believe the song was written about her. By nurturing this fantasy come true, Theresa never learned to grow in other man-woman relationships leading to the development of an alter personality called Terri. Terri would surface whenever she felt Theresa needed avenging! Theresa endures many trials in her life from being neglected by her mother, to being raped; to finding, she has a terminal disease. She finds love with Vincent Oliver. Vincent Oliver, a good looking man living with psychological issues of his own, lives his life by a prophecy set upon his mother's death.

By not accepting his mother's death his psychological make up becomes scrambled as he takes on the life of a dissociative liar, becoming a chameleon. He seeks love, respect and adoration as he takes on different personalities.truly believing, he was a different person in each context. Theresa and Vincent become obsessed with each other in a variety of ways, making the relationship endure what should have destroyed it. They were obsessed with each other sexually.obsessed with each other's touch, scent and overall being. They survive many manipulative and fatal acts by one another even as Theresa gives birth to his son. As they overcome these issues, they finally settle down and begin planning their lives together.

However, unbeknownst to Theresa, he is still married to Cynthia and in yet another relationship with Edna, while venturing into the world of sex clubs and what now is referred to as being on the down-low! In addition, Vincent, an educated man with a master's degree, takes on the personality of a thief and embezzles 250K and when Theresa finds out about his deceptions, Terri decides to turn him in to the Secret Service. As she does so, Vincent turns into a chameleon once again as he and his father discuss plans to kill her.



eek eek



Yeah, that's all we say about that.... omg
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Reply #1760 posted 07/18/09 11:50pm

NastradumasKid

dreamfactory313 said:

NastradumasKid said:




Teddy Riley??? I heard he was in finacial debt. confuse

Ive heard that too. We'll see what happens.



Yeah, I guess we will.
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Reply #1761 posted 07/18/09 11:55pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

CalhounSq said:


so Heaven Can Wait was supposed to be on Dangerous? Never knew that (wasn't keeping up really lol ) - that's 1 of the 4 I like from Invincible nod
[Edited 7/18/09 23:23pm]

I'm not sure about that but Teddy Riley is currently working on the new Blackstreet album and said he wants to re-record that song with Blackstreet for their new project because he loves it so much. He is waiting on clearance from the estate or Sony to use it.


No it was definitely a track written for Invincible and not of the Dangerous era. I think the mix up was in the original post saying that there weren't any "love songs" on Dangerous.

Swa
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Reply #1762 posted 07/19/09 12:01am

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matthewgrant said:

I saw this elsewhere and thought it was interesting.

Taken from a 1985 issue of Ebony magazine.

"At age 40 he will have aged gracefully, and will have a handsome, more mature look."




giggle


omg

Well that's one issue of Ebony my Mother didn't get that year. I've never seen that before, and it's somewhat frightening. eek

All these years I've never understood why Michael supposedly never wanted to "look like his father," which I read was the main reason why he continued to allow his facial features to be reconstructed (after his second successful nose operation). I always thought that was just an assumption, 'cause he never resembled Joe as a child or young man. But NOW, after viewing this article, I can bet Michael saw this picture, and immediately saw Joseph..... mad

Whoever created this picture was a good artist with sensible judgment (since the image is not absurd like the ones we see now), but this photo is very problematic. If this indeed would have been what Michael would have looked like (even with vitiligo), that was exactly the "Joe image" he apparently detested and did not want. disbelief
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Reply #1763 posted 07/19/09 12:11am

NastradumasKid

WaterInYourBath said:

matthewgrant said:

I saw this elsewhere and thought it was interesting.

Taken from a 1985 issue of Ebony magazine.



giggle


omg

Well that's one issue of Ebony my Mother didn't get that year. I've never seen that before, and it's somewhat frightening. eek

All these years I've never understood why Michael supposedly never wanted to "look like his father," which I read was the main reason why he continued to allow his facial features to be reconstructed (after his second successful nose operation). I always thought that was just an assumption, 'cause he never resembled Joe as a child or young man. But NOW, after viewing this article, I can bet Michael saw this picture, and immediately saw Joseph..... mad

Whoever created this picture was a good artist with sensible judgment (since the image is not absurd like the ones we see now), but this photo is very problematic. If this indeed would have been what Michael would have looked like (even with vitiligo), that was exactly the "Joe image" he apparently detested and did not want. disbelief



Well, personally it doesn't look too bad, but I think it's somewhat unimaginable, mainly because of the hair, giggle . The whole "Not wanting to look like daddy" is a bit far-fetched and the nose job thing.....well....should have stopped after the first one. Oh well, there are somany factors that could have made MJ a completely different person and even still be alive. I just feel sad that no one REALLY loved him, not including family or fans.
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Reply #1764 posted 07/19/09 12:13am

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matthewgrant said:

I saw this elsewhere and thought it was interesting.

Taken from a 1985 issue of Ebony magazine.

"At age 40 he will have aged gracefully, and will have a handsome, more mature look."




giggle



I wonder how they figured he would have had a mustache? Michael was always clean shavin'. nod
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Reply #1765 posted 07/19/09 12:21am

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PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It
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Reply #1766 posted 07/19/09 12:32am

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I love this song; boogie


Mick Jagger~

Yeah baby
Just look at me,look at me

You got me,you got me,you got me in a state of shock

eek Look at me

eek Look at me

eek Look at me

eek Look at me

Ah..Looook at meeeee eek eek eek


Creepy much lol
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Reply #1767 posted 07/19/09 12:47am

Timmy84

EmeraldSkies said:

matthewgrant said:

I saw this elsewhere and thought it was interesting.

Taken from a 1985 issue of Ebony magazine.



giggle



I wonder how they figured he would have had a mustache? Michael was always clean shavin'. nod


Michael had a stubble in his final years, he had a beard around '99, 2000.
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Reply #1768 posted 07/19/09 1:19am

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Timmy84 said:

EmeraldSkies said:




I wonder how they figured he would have had a mustache? Michael was always clean shavin'. nod


Michael had a stubble in his final years, he had a beard around '99, 2000.

Timmy, when saw that picture immediately I thought Alexander O Neal lol falloff
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Reply #1769 posted 07/19/09 1:23am

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PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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