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Reply #1680 posted 07/18/09 4:48pm

Timmy84

suga10 said:

Timmy84 said:



Suga, I call bullshit on this. How can they determine the Diprivan killed him when the autopsy results ain't done in another two weeks? Plus, how can one guy say Michael died a junkie and then in the beginning of the article announce that it would press second degree murder charges? It truly doesn't add up to anything.
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The family has their own toxicology results though.


Yeah right, lol.
There's like four or five toxicology results for one man. ohgoon
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Reply #1681 posted 07/18/09 4:53pm

suga10

Timmy84 said:

suga10 said:



The family has their own toxicology results though.


Yeah right, lol.
There's like four or five toxicology results for one man. ohgoon


With Michael Jackson people will go to such lengths lol
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Reply #1682 posted 07/18/09 4:55pm

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Timmy84 said:

matthewgrant said:

I saw this elsewhere and thought it was interesting.

Taken from a 1985 issue of Ebony magazine.



giggle


Ain't no way in Sam's Hill he would've looked like that anyway because by 1985 he was already showing the signs of hair weaves and vitiligo. lol

lol ! omg if they only knew...
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Reply #1683 posted 07/18/09 4:56pm

NastradumasKid

Timmy84 said:

suga10 said:



The family has their own toxicology results though.


Yeah right, lol.
There's like four or five toxicology results for one man. ohgoon



Oh My God. disbelief falloff This really is some bullshit.
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Reply #1684 posted 07/18/09 4:57pm

NastradumasKid

matthewgrant said:

Timmy84 said:



Ain't no way in Sam's Hill he would've looked like that anyway because by 1985 he was already showing the signs of hair weaves and vitiligo. lol

lol ! omg if they only knew...




lol @ That picture, man people in the 80s were delusional, did they really think that Jheri Curl would be around in the 00's.
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Reply #1685 posted 07/18/09 5:02pm

Timmy84

NastradumasKid said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah right, lol.
There's like four or five toxicology results for one man. ohgoon



Oh My God. disbelief falloff This really is some bullshit.


It's the first time I heard a family member of a deceased loved one having their own toxicology reports. They're usually the ones that keep asking them "what happened?" They don't get toxicology reports, at least not that I know of.

Plus Tito said he don't think his brother was murdered.
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Reply #1686 posted 07/18/09 5:03pm

Timmy84

matthewgrant said:

Timmy84 said:



Ain't no way in Sam's Hill he would've looked like that anyway because by 1985 he was already showing the signs of hair weaves and vitiligo. lol

lol ! omg if they only knew...


They didn't. lol
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Reply #1687 posted 07/18/09 5:05pm

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midiscover said:

I really love this song!



aparently a HIStory left over , it could have been easily on history and replace a weaker song. imagine this song sung all by michael

Yeah, Michael's version do exist, I hope we will hear it someday.
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #1688 posted 07/18/09 5:38pm

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I saw this elsewhere and thought it was interesting.

Taken from a 1985 issue of Ebony magazine.

"At age 40 he will have aged gracefully, and will have a handsome, more mature look."




spit Damn, were they ever waaaayyyyy off!!! lol
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Reply #1689 posted 07/18/09 5:49pm

graecophilos

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There's a video interview on the site

http://www.newsoftheworld...iller.html

Michael Jackson murder charges in days
JACKO SHOCK: Autopsy result bombshell as cops close in on 'killer'

By James Desborough, 19/07/2009
THE death of Michael Jackson is to become a MURDER investigation, the News of the World can reveal.

An autopsy on the superstar has shown he died from an injected overdose of heavy-duty painkiller Diprivan.

Police have told his family they will press charges against one or more people within DAYS and there will be a criminal TRIAL.

It could involve whoever administered the injection and anyone who made it available to the star.

Last week La Toya Jackson told the News of the World she knew who had murdered her brother.

Yesterday's astonishing development was revealed by Terry Harvey, a long-time friend of the Jackson family, in an exclusive interview with us.

Terry said: "The autopsy shows that Michael died of a drug overdose with Diprivan and a range of pills in his stomach. He had needle marks on his neck and all over his body.

"The authorities have told the family the Drug Enforcement Administration are pushing for a criminal charge.

"It is likely to be second-degree murder, due to the actions which led to his death. They have been assured that someone, or maybe more than one person, will be brought to trial.

"The family are working with the DEA and Los Angeles Police Department to work out which doctor prescribed Michael these drugs and how far back this serious problem runs."

Michael Jackson's family friend Terry Harvey reveals all

Terry also revealed that as soon as the murder inquiry is announced the Jacksons intend to SUE AEG, the promoters behind Jacko's planned London O2 comeback shows, for £30million for "wrongful death".

The family, headed by father Joe, say its bosses failed in their duty of care towards Jacko and could have saved his life.

Feeding

Respected music promoter Terry, currently working with girlband TLC, said: "The family is speaking about whether there is enough evidence to take a private lawsuit against the promoters or the doctors involved.

"Once the criminal charges are announced, the family will file for a wrongful death lawsuit.

"Joe Jackson has made no secret of his efforts to step in to get Michael to rehab while he prepared for his London shows. The question is how much did the concert organisers know about his drug problems and who was feeding him the drugs?

"I can see Joe filing a lawsuit against anyone who is found to have caused fatal harm to his beloved son.

"He and the rest of the family are serious about getting to the bottom of his son's death and insists it's foul play. It's no secret that AEG appointed a doctor to look after Michael's welfare."

The company have claimed they did everything they could to help Jacko prepare for the 50-date tour. AEG's representatives have always insisted Jacko was fit, healthy and in "great shape" during his rehearsals.

Terry is also the first member of Jackson's inner-circle to confirm the star's horrendous, long-term addiction to prescription drugs.

He said Jacko died a JUNKIE thanks to daily injections of Diprivan (or Propofol) and another painkiller Vistaril, plus swallowing a cocktail of pills including anxiety drug Xanax, anti-depressants Prozac and Zoloft and anti-indigestion drug Prilosec.

Terry added: "Michael had a long-term drug habit. He was no different to a drug addict living in a crack house. What he wanted was served up to him. He didn't go to the stores to get his fix, it was brought to him. He started in 1984 after he got burned filming that Pepsi advert. But in recent years it spiralled out of control and he was even self-injecting.

"By the end he knew how to administer these drugs himself as he had so much medical knowledge. Now he's dead everyone is washing their hands of it. I don't believe that Michael injected himself in the neck though.

"The jury is out on everyone in his inner circle. I believe some of them actually got him drugs. These people should be thrown into jail."

Last night leading pathologist Dr Cyril Wecht backed Terry's claim that the case will become criminal.

Dr Wecht, who worked on the Anna Nicole Smith drug case, said: "If Diprivan was given to Michael Jackson, prescribed by some physician, and it was administered by him or anybody else at his home then it goes beyond negligence. The drugs need to be administered by a trained anaesthetist. It is to be given only in a hospital setting because it is susceptible to bacterial contamination.

"For all of these reasons, if any doctor prescribed Propofol for Michael Jackson to take at home himself that is gross wanton negligence which, as I understand it, is manslaughter."

Terry, who is friends with Joe Jackson and Michael's brother Tito, got close to the star's aides in his final days after agreeing to promote a one-off Jackson 5 reunion in 2010. And he is adamant that Michael needed to go to rehab before returning to the stage in London this month and begged 50-year-old Jacko's associates to let him step in.

Terry, 49, said: "I told them Michael had a drug problem. I said we need to 'get him off the junk'.

"They said my concerns were meritless and changed the subject. I didn't hear a word afterwards."

Terry told how Jacko's dad tried to get Michael to go to rehab in March.

He said: "Joe wanted to get his son cleaned up as he was so keen to do the family show deal for 2010.

"He knew he wasn't ready for these summer shows in London. Joe called him on the phone and said to Michael, 'Let's get it together. Let us help you and clean the house'. Michael said 'OK' to appease his dad but he didn't even take his words in. By that stage he was an addict.

"He still thought he was the biggest star in the world. He did what he wanted. He felt he wasn't ready to go.

"Joe went to the house at least three times to intervene, but couldn't get through to his son."

Concerned Terry even offered to take care of Jacko. He said: "I begged Joe to get me into the house. I wanted to fight off all the enablers and keep them away.

"We had suspicions who was getting him prescription pills, but it was important to stop it first and deal with them later.

"MJ needed to be looked after one-on-one. Aside from the drugs Michael knew that these shows were too much for him. He needed the money, but it was all too much too soon. I knew in his heart he didn't want to and more importantly couldn't do these shows."

Terry told how Jacko called him after the O2 shows were announced.

He said: "Michael came on the phone and said, 'I only signed up for 10 shows. I didn't sign for 50. You are gonna have to rearrange the schedule to two shows a week.' Michael could only do two shows a week due to the strain on his voice let alone the physical stress of doing two hours on stage."

Two weeks ago AEG boss Randy Phillips told the News Of The World Jacko was lazy and had turned up for just two weeks of the four months of rehearsals.

But Terry said: "The TV has been showing clips of his rehearsals and from what I can see Michael wasn't even singing live.

"He was struggling with his dance moves. I was told he had his vocals sequenced on stage so if he didn't want to sing live they just switched on the tape."

Days before his death Jackson postponed his 02 debut from July 8 to July 13 blaming the "size and scope" of the production.

Terry added: "Michael knew he had to do these shows as he was in so much debt.

"The concert company put a lot up front and wanted to get a return on their money. The shows and the pressure got bigger than he could handle.

"Michael pushed himself to the edge as he didn't want to let the fans down."

TERRY HARVEY was not paid for this interview.



fuck.
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Reply #1690 posted 07/18/09 5:50pm

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matthewgrant said:

I saw this elsewhere and thought it was interesting.

Taken from a 1985 issue of Ebony magazine.

"At age 40 he will have aged gracefully, and will have a handsome, more mature look."




giggle



well, he def looked worse in 2000 than that!
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Reply #1691 posted 07/18/09 5:51pm

Timmy84

graecophilos said:

suga10 said:

There's a video interview on the site

http://www.newsoftheworld...iller.html



fuck.


I find it odd they paid LaToya for the interview but not this Terry Harvey dude, lol.
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Reply #1692 posted 07/18/09 5:59pm

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graecophilos said:

pplrain said:




Money and greed.


oh, and you're sure he read the small print of his contracts?

Do you really belive they could add another 40 shows wuthout his permission?

I'm sure there was sth like "If the ten shows sell out, we are allowed to add another shows etc..."

Jackson was probably on drugs when he signed the contract.





Jackson was probably on drugs when he signed the contract. Yeah Michael signed a lot of documents then when he came down off his high, he had no idea what agreement he signed! I don't know why the Jackson clan keeps doing autopsies, it's not gonna tell anything different. Michael could have very well been a prescription drug addict and he could have been murdered, because people take advantage of your weakinesses. Michael probably didn't give a shit if you had his best interest in heart as long as you got his drugs for him.

You all don't think Michael died of AIDS do you? Liberace started losing weight around the time of his death. shrug Remember they didn't wanna put AIDS down on his death certificate.

I wonder if the Jackson clan is getting disturbing information from the previous autopsy and that is why they keep asking for it to be redone?
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Reply #1693 posted 07/18/09 6:06pm

NastradumasKid

Chic35 said:

graecophilos said:



oh, and you're sure he read the small print of his contracts?

Do you really belive they could add another 40 shows wuthout his permission?

I'm sure there was sth like "If the ten shows sell out, we are allowed to add another shows etc..."

Jackson was probably on drugs when he signed the contract.





Jackson was probably on drugs when he signed the contract. Yeah Michael signed a lot of documents then when he came down off his high, he had no idea what agreement he signed! I don't know why the Jackson clan keeps doing autopsies, it's not gonna tell anything different. Michael could have very well been a prescription drug addict and he could have been murdered, because people take advantage of your weakinesses. Michael probably didn't give a shit if you had his best interest in heart as long as you got his drugs for him.

You all don't think Michael died of AIDS do you? Liberace started losing weight around the time of his death. shrug Remember they didn't wanna put AIDS down on his death certificate.
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I doubt he had AIDS. hmph!
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Reply #1694 posted 07/18/09 6:15pm

Timmy84

NastradumasKid said:

Chic35 said:






Jackson was probably on drugs when he signed the contract. Yeah Michael signed a lot of documents then when he came down off his high, he had no idea what agreement he signed! I don't know why the Jackson clan keeps doing autopsies, it's not gonna tell anything different. Michael could have very well been a prescription drug addict and he could have been murdered, because people take advantage of your weakinesses. Michael probably didn't give a shit if you had his best interest in heart as long as you got his drugs for him.

You all don't think Michael died of AIDS do you? Liberace started losing weight around the time of his death. shrug Remember they didn't wanna put AIDS down on his death certificate.
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I doubt he had AIDS. hmph!


Oh nevermind, I see what Chic said, lol.
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Reply #1695 posted 07/18/09 6:16pm

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NastradumasKid said:

Chic35 said:






Jackson was probably on drugs when he signed the contract. Yeah Michael signed a lot of documents then when he came down off his high, he had no idea what agreement he signed! I don't know why the Jackson clan keeps doing autopsies, it's not gonna tell anything different. Michael could have very well been a prescription drug addict and he could have been murdered, because people take advantage of your weakinesses. Michael probably didn't give a shit if you had his best interest in heart as long as you got his drugs for him.

You all don't think Michael died of AIDS do you? Liberace started losing weight around the time of his death. shrug Remember they didn't wanna put AIDS down on his death certificate.
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I doubt he had AIDS. hmph!

seriously, lord i hope these tests come back soon, poor mike has died of every different cause in the last 3 weeks if you listen to his 'fans' disbelief
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Reply #1696 posted 07/18/09 6:20pm

suga10

Chic35 said:



You all don't think Michael died of AIDS do you? Liberace started losing weight around the time of his death. shrug Remember they didn't wanna put AIDS down on his death certificate.

I wonder if the Jackson clan is getting disturbing information from the previous autopsy and that is why they keep asking for it to be redone?



I thought they were doing the second autopsy b/c they didn't trust the LAPD after the way mike was treated in the 93 scandal?

I mean its understandable given the amount of bloodsuckas Michael has been around in his lifetime.

Imagine if it was the Santa Barbara police department involved had Mike died in Neverland (if he was still living there). Oh lord
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Reply #1697 posted 07/18/09 6:23pm

Timmy84

nakedpianoplayer said:

NastradumasKid said:




I doubt he had AIDS. hmph!

seriously, lord i hope these tests come back soon, poor mike has died of every different cause in the last 3 weeks if you listen to his 'fans' disbelief

From:

Cardiac arrest
Accidental drug overdose (which I always believed was the cause)
Murder
Negligent homicide
Involuntary manslaughter
AIDS
Anorexia nervosa
Suicide (yes I heard that too)

...have I missed anything?
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Reply #1698 posted 07/18/09 6:26pm

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Timmy84 said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


seriously, lord i hope these tests come back soon, poor mike has died of every different cause in the last 3 weeks if you listen to his 'fans' disbelief

From:

Cardiac arrest
Accidental drug overdose (which I always believed was the cause)
Murder
Negligent homicide
Involuntary manslaughter
AIDS
Anorexia nervosa
Suicide (yes I heard that too)

...have I missed anything?



giggle How do you negligently commit homicide?
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Reply #1699 posted 07/18/09 6:27pm

Serena

Timmy84 said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


seriously, lord i hope these tests come back soon, poor mike has died of every different cause in the last 3 weeks if you listen to his 'fans' disbelief

From:

Cardiac arrest
Accidental drug overdose (which I always believed was the cause)
Murder
Negligent homicide
Involuntary manslaughter
AIDS
Anorexia nervosa
Suicide (yes I heard that too)

...have I missed anything?


How about the alien that had been inhabiting his body returned to his home planet? That sounds like something News of the World would have.
lol
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Reply #1700 posted 07/18/09 6:31pm

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pplrain said:

Timmy84 said:


From:

Cardiac arrest
Accidental drug overdose (which I always believed was the cause)
Murder
Negligent homicide
Involuntary manslaughter
AIDS
Anorexia nervosa
Suicide (yes I heard that too)

...have I missed anything?



giggle How do you negligently commit homicide?

falloff lol-I know righ

it's like if you know the brakes on your car don't work but you drive anyway and cause an accident that kills someone- you are charged with being negligent and as a result of the death-homicide...
LOVE HARD.
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Reply #1701 posted 07/18/09 6:33pm

Timmy84

pplrain said:

Timmy84 said:


From:

Cardiac arrest
Accidental drug overdose (which I always believed was the cause)
Murder
Negligent homicide
Involuntary manslaughter
AIDS
Anorexia nervosa
Suicide (yes I heard that too)

...have I missed anything?



giggle How do you negligently commit homicide?


lol I saw that somewhere, I don't believe you can negligently commit homicide either. I did hear someone say that "homicide is not like murder" tho. shrug lol
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Reply #1702 posted 07/18/09 6:33pm

NastradumasKid

Timmy84 said:

nakedpianoplayer said:


seriously, lord i hope these tests come back soon, poor mike has died of every different cause in the last 3 weeks if you listen to his 'fans' disbelief

From:

Cardiac arrest
Accidental drug overdose (which I always believed was the cause)
Murder
Negligent homicide
Involuntary manslaughter
AIDS
Anorexia nervosa
Suicide (yes I heard that too)

...have I missed anything?



Broken Heart
Stress
Loneliness
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Reply #1703 posted 07/18/09 6:33pm

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Evvy said:

pplrain said:




giggle How do you negligently commit homicide?

falloff lol-I know righ

it's like if you know the brakes on your car don't work but you drive anyway and cause an accident that kills someone- you are charged with being negligent and as a result of the death-homicide...


Administering something for example, and not doing anything to save the person even though you know the person can be saved still.
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Reply #1704 posted 07/18/09 6:34pm

Timmy84

Serena said:

Timmy84 said:


From:

Cardiac arrest
Accidental drug overdose (which I always believed was the cause)
Murder
Negligent homicide
Involuntary manslaughter
AIDS
Anorexia nervosa
Suicide (yes I heard that too)

...have I missed anything?


How about the alien that had been inhabiting his body returned to his home planet? That sounds like something News of the World would have.
lol


exclaim falloff
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Reply #1705 posted 07/18/09 6:34pm

suga10

NastradumasKid said:

Timmy84 said:


From:

Cardiac arrest
Accidental drug overdose (which I always believed was the cause)
Murder
Negligent homicide
Involuntary manslaughter
AIDS
Anorexia nervosa
Suicide (yes I heard that too)

...have I missed anything?



Broken Heart
Stress
Loneliness


Chandlers
Arvizos
Sony
AEG
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Reply #1706 posted 07/18/09 6:35pm

Timmy84

NastradumasKid said:

Timmy84 said:


From:

Cardiac arrest
Accidental drug overdose (which I always believed was the cause)
Murder
Negligent homicide
Involuntary manslaughter
AIDS
Anorexia nervosa
Suicide (yes I heard that too)

...have I missed anything?



Broken Heart
Stress
Loneliness


Well I can believe those are factors, lol. But the tabloids are acting nuts as always over this. "Murder"... YEAH RIGHT! Involuntary manslaughter maybe but murder? ohgoon
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Reply #1707 posted 07/18/09 6:36pm

Evvy

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Timmy84 said:

NastradumasKid said:




Broken Heart
Stress
Loneliness


Well I can believe those are factors, lol. But the tabloids are acting nuts as always over this. "Murder"... YEAH RIGHT! Involuntary manslaughter maybe but murder? ohgoon


timmy you killin me with that emoticon- what the hell is that lol
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Reply #1708 posted 07/18/09 6:36pm

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graecophilos said:

suga10 said:

There's a video interview on the site

http://www.newsoftheworld...iller.html



fuck.


You know what is sad, his family and even his close friends tried to intervene but he kept them out of his inner circle of drug peddlers and opportunists.
It is dad he does not have anyone he could trust.
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Reply #1709 posted 07/18/09 6:37pm

Timmy84

Evvy said:

Timmy84 said:



Well I can believe those are factors, lol. But the tabloids are acting nuts as always over this. "Murder"... YEAH RIGHT! Involuntary manslaughter maybe but murder? ohgoon


timmy you killin me with that emoticon- what the hell is that lol


It's basically like "get out of here with that!" lol I think anyway, lol.
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