suga10 said:

HA! ok my bad.
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What post on MJJC is everyone talking about? What's the title of it and what part of the forum is it on?

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NastradumasKid said:

http://www.mjj2005.com/kopboard/

ViintageJunkiie said:

The General Forum. Topic title hint: Think of the number "4"
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BAD

suga10 said:

I can't even go on the general forum.... I have to try on my PSP.

suga10 said:

Thanks. I read it and that's terrible. I honestly feel MJ should have only did 10 shows. Hell, he shouldn't have did any. I think we [as fans] pushed him a little too much ..
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NastradumasKid said:

LMAO!!! I love the long version of this

Timmy84 said:

What's the name of the thread on MJJC?

ViintageJunkiie said:

Exactly. ....

midiscover said:

"An email I got 4 days before he passed"... I'm reading it right now...

Timmy84 said:

Can one of you guys please fill us in on what happened?

WaterInYourBath said:

Exactly! Im reading some of the post over on MJJC & Allegedly, Michael didn't even know he was going to do 50 shows, but since he was already booked, he went along with it. I dont know how to feel about that.

Serena said:

The e-mail was basically saying how one fan saw MJ one night wearing a shirt and pants (white and clinging to him according to the fan) and said he looked "like a skeleton" and that people like Kenny Ortega and the likes weren't concerned about him but concerned about the show. The fan e-mailed Michael's makeup artist, who claimed she was the only one that was close to MJ, to talk to him about his condition. The person who posted it kept his secret not to post it but decided to post it to give him his account on how MJ was in his final months alive.

I'll just post it here. I feel like we're ALL MICHAEL JACKSON FANS and we should ALL BE ABLE TO READ IT, however, MODS feel free to remove it



Marine sent you a message.

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Subject: for the "followers" fans only, please don't post it on forums.

From Marika :
Dear closest MJ fans,

This is an important message. Some of you are going to hate it. Others will start thinking.

As you may know, few days ago, me and Moon got the luck to be invited on the set of Michael's shooting.
Michael was wearing white pants. Real tight. And a white shirt. Real tight.
As you all know, Michael has been really skinny since the trial. We all talk together and we always say: he is scary skinny.
some of us told him he should eat.

But what Moon and I saw last week horrifed us. He is not scary skinny. He is a skeleton. I saw his back, and wanted to throw up. I never felt a shock like this. And I already knew he was skinny. But this clothes... it was as if he was naked. I was ashamed. I couldn't look at him.

I got out of the set. And what did I told the fans?
"Oh god he is so skinny!" And then, what did I say?
"Oh it was great! yeahhh! I saw Michael on the set! yeah!!!"

I had the same reaction I had since the trial.Saying he is skinny then talk about how great it was. He is now more than skinny. He is a skeleton.
But I can do nothing so let's talk about something else! About how happy I was to meet him.
But to be honnest, I, since this day, feel weird. Like a guilty sensation. It's as if someone was telling me: now you know, you are involved.

I feel that I witnessed reality. For once, he didnt had a coat on, a big shirt, big trousers. For once, I saw the reality of his situation. For once, I can't say "he is skinny". I have to say: he may die.
I feel like I already knew but didnt want to accept it.

Honestly, I think I was like everyone of you. We are worried for 5 minutes but then, the only thing we can think about is: I want to see Michael, I want to get a hug, I want to say I love you... I think about myself and my happiness.

But I started to wonder: Michael rehearse everyday, he is surronded by 200 people, that work with him everyday. But who are those people?
Dancers that are living their dream, Kenny Ortega who is producing his best show ever, technicians, Michael security, Michael Bush.. and KAren Faye.
No family, no friends, no one.
Karen is the only one to have love for Michael. So I mailed her. I wanted to know if people were blind or doing nothing?

Here is her answer:

Hi Marika,

I know.
I am doing everything humanly possible...your heart and mine are in the same place.
Please keep this private for his sake.
Love,
Karen
Shanti, Shanti, Shanti


When I read that, I realized I was right.
She is doing something. But what can she do?
And keep this private for his sake? How can it help?

As we all know, Michael listen to no one. He does whatever he wants.
And if you know a litlle bit about anorexia, you know that if you tell them to eat, it's completly useless.
So Karen may tell him "privatly" to eat. He won't.
People in his situation need a shock to start doing something.

So here is my question to all of you:

We all love Michael really much. We all want to see his shows. We all think about how we will be first row. About how we will get more tickets.
About how we will meet him more than the others fans. About getting a picture with him. About not hurting him.

How will you do all of these things if during the third concert he faints on stage, and if his heart stops during his way to the hospital?
How will you feel when you will talk with others fans and will say: We knew he was too skinny to perform 50 shows. We knew he stopped eating during the trial and reheare 10 hours per day for us.

How will you feel when you will say: people said he was doing fine but they lied. We saw he was a skeleton.
Will you feel guilty? Will you be able to sleep at night thinking you knew it and did nothing?

Some of you are going to say:

"He has doctors with him"
"They wouldnt let him dance if he was not healthy"
"I don't want to do something, it would hurt him"

Well let me tell you this:

If he had doctors with him, he would have gained weight.
No one saw Lou Ferrigno somewhere around rehearsals or Michael's house.
On the set, I watched people around Michael. Everyone was avoiding Michael, looking somewhere else. They were all working on their video.
Too many money involved. You dont want to be fired because you told Michael Jackson to eat.
You all know Michael's employees will never take the risk to lose their job. They dont love Michael this much.

And for those who have been to Carolwood, you all know that Michael is completly alone there.

If you get this email, it means you are part of the MJ's fans who know that Michael is not Peter Pan, Michael is not 100% perfect, and that at this day, we are the only ones left who love Michael enough to try to make a difference.

We all saw Michael at his worst, and we all see him still alive.
But just think 5 minutes that this skeleton that Michael has become is going to perform 2 hours every night during 3 months.
Will you be able to do it?
Models die at 18 from anorexia because their heart stop. And they just walk on a catwalk.

Michael is 51. He dances 10 hours per day. And is going to dance 2 hours every night during 3 months.
Do you think he will be ok?

Now that you know, are you going to do something or are you going to fight with other fans to get the best meeting with him?

Please, let's think about the best solution to help him realize. He needs to be shocked by us. We need to make him react.
And unfortunalty, we may have to hurt his feelings somehow.
But if he stays alive, isnt it worth it?

So please let's all discuss it together, to find a way to save him. And I don't think "save" is too exagerated.
I am sorry if I didnt listen to Karen, but I dont think I betray a secret.
I know some of you will throw rocks on me. I don't care if Michael eats again.

Marika

Timmy84 said:

This is very sad So the fan that just posted it kept it a secret all a long?
Anyways, Joe was right MJ should've kept an eye on the people he surrounded himself with.
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ViintageJunkiie said:

Dude you shouldn't have done that.....Oh well it's too late anyway, BTW, I'm not really a MJ fan, but I like him a lot as a person.

midiscover said:

Yeah apparently. And right now the MJJC is allowing this to be kept on there despite some people asking the mods to delete it. The mods are discussing verbatim that they knew "something was up". I remember talk about MJ's health was FORBIDDEN over there.

And even though he irks me, Joe has a point about telling Michael to watch the company he kept.

Timmy84 said:

No offense, but that's fucking dumb as hell. It's not that big of a deal is it??? I mean it is serious, but is it that so serious enough NOT to talk about it?

NastradumasKid said:

stop her, she's learning all our secrets!!!

Timmy84 said:

"Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer."

Timmy84 said:

Thanks Timmy! It's sad though, even at the press conference I thought he looked and sounded kind of weak.

Liza called it on Larry King Live the night he died.

NastradumasKid said:

Why not? All of us are already over there reading the story anyway.

fucking joe jackson wanna make them kids into the Jackson 3! what a dumbass.

and he looks like a broke ass pimp too. he needs to sit his alzheimer child beatin' ass down before he breaks a hip.


fucker!!!






btw im tired of all these reports tryna say janet will get the kids. we don't know if she wants them for sure. that's a helluva job taking care of little ones especially if you've never done it. Katherine may be old but she's got a lot of experience.

matthewgrant said:

OH No, MJ fans are gonna kick my high-yellow ass out this world because of this. I promise not to tell.....

NastradumasKid said:

Yeah at the time if you mentioned his weight issues, his vitiligo or lupus or any sickness, the post would be locked and you'd be mod qued.
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