Methinks some people need to stay outta rap convos.

ernestsewell said:

So Prince uses a drum machine as an enhancemnt(to make better) over a "gasp" human?All of those drummers he singing about in OlSkoolCompany and the song is over a "gasp" drum loop..All of those synths he use and his keyboardist use are "gasp" sounds created in a studio.It's not a requirement?..true but I think it was for When Doves Cry, Sign o The Times , all of 1999 and so on.If not he wouldnt have done it.Maybe it his whole gemini/contradiction thing.But anyway,yes its true that with the right equipment and sound card a musician wouldnt be needed..it is what it is.Also i agree theres nothing like a live band.But based on what im reading so many genres would be under the file "talentless" Rap,R&B,House,Electronica,Trance,Dancehall,Reggaetone,Pop and all Dj's and thats not fair...there is room for all types of music old school and new in this big world...guess what guys...the world is round

SavonOsco said:

I never said that.



Never said that either.


No clue what you're going on about there. We're talking about rappers and rap music and producers.

Look Back At It- Trina
I Got A Problem[I Like To F--k]- Trina ft Plies
Miss me, Kiss me, Lick me- Cold Flamez[not that bad]
Alphabet Bi--hes- Lil Wayne
My Neck, My Back- Khia
I Rather F--k You- Easy E[rip]
D-ck Pleaser- Lil Wayne
Freaky Girl- Nicki Minaj ft Lil Kim
Hell, all of thier songs.

ElectricBlue said:

i remember HWA, ho's with attitude, filthy as

ernestsewell said:

And you called them talentless..then you must make that statement for all of the other producers who employ the same method of making music.That "Ray of Light" album was awesome for some talentless computer geeks.And I'll say it again (to honor this thread) Most of the rappers today are verbally horrible but when it comes to production and all electronic music, I will always disagree..thnx

MuthaFunka said:

But what if some orgers are telling the truth?

Let's be honest, some of the old-school rap songs were borderline sexist, homophobic (maybe anti-gay is more like it), and racist in the name of good old shock value.

And the sad part about it is that sometimes they were funny (if you understand dark comedy on a level of Pulp Fiction/Andrew Dice Clay sort of way).

SavonOsco said:

Well when you read what I wrote, we can continue at some point perhaps.

TonyVanDam said:

THEIR truth. Doesn't mean it IS true.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Verse is nasty but I like the "White Lines" interpolated hook on that!

TonyVanDam said:

A true BET UNCUT classic

This video used to be on heavy rotation on that show.

I dunno I guess for me it's Brotha Lynch Hung. He's one of the most disturbing I've ever heard.He's got songs about eating babies, rape, and just crazy violence in general.
[Edited 7/14/09 23:38pm]

Caramelita said:

i remember this video and bet uncut well . anyone offended by the white girls song is crazy. like the shit is at all that serious . all the shit from that show was awful. part of why it was on so late .

punkofthemonth said:

I know. I couldn't help but laugh and shake my head at the "I used to like "Mariah", till I learned she was mixed" line when I first heard this. Uncut was somethin else with those home made camera videos and the random,pointless ass clapping LOL.
[Edited 7/15/09 0:34am]

punkofthemonth said:

Some black women would take it the wrong way.

LittleBLUECorvette said:

Exactly!!!!!

ernestsewell said:

This is TRUTH.
IMO, Tupac was the last of the great rappers. Much respect to the others mentioned above, but Pac was my favorite.

I saw this thread when it first started and someone on the org posted a rap song in a thread earlier that i saw, but I couldn't find it again until now!

There is tons of offensive rap but being offensive isn't it's main problem. It's main problem is it's weak sounding, rhythmless, and dull. And even that could be forgiven if it hadn't created an entire world of rhythmless dull asses that won't let it either die or go back underground so the folks that can actually throwdown can come back above ground.

vainandy said:

Dude, not ALL rap is like that and not ALL rappers sample from other songs, I've heard some where they play actual instruments, but whatever. Your lost.

Did I say "all" rap? Where did I say that in my post? Yeah, you can find good rap. Hell, you have to go waaaaay back to the very early 80s, but other than those very early years, the majority of it, especially beginning in the early 90s is a bunch of slow to midtempo dull weak ass sounding shit.

vainandy said:

My bad I misunderstood you.

MajesticOne89 said:

I think THAT n***a's gay!



But seriously, with the male backing vocals, it's pretty obvious that this rapper isn't just looking for female groupies.

vainandy said:

Its acknowledge that those exact early 90's was rap peak years The Chronic,Low end Theory,Illmatic,Ready to Die,Enter the Wu,Fear of a black planet..Its understandable for a person to be loyal to what they grew up with when they were kids, but the 80's is a little too far back to find "good" rap..lol (Bombs Over Baghdad didnt sound midtempo to me)..It sounds like alot of people here dont like "down south rap" or houston's chop and screwed which are both musically slower (im one of them) but it should be fair to say that for ever corny, bama-ass, 8th grade level, cleaning drug money rapper that we dont like..you have talented rappers like Jay,Andre3G,Common,Lupe,Mos and many others.The problem isnt the songs but which songs are put on the radio a million times a day and which videos are contantly played..thats another story on a whole other level. Or just listen to "dumb it down" by Lupe Fiasco for the cliffnotes

kenlacam said:

Thats not the TRUTH..its YOUR OPINION (and his also) and thats respected..but i've mentioned some rappers that have kept rap music alive and well..maybe its a generational gap thats goin on here cuz guys are completely dismissing decades of great songs.

ernestsewell said:

Perhaps my friend

Khia
Trina
Lil Scrappy
Juvenile
Lil Wayne
I can go on and on....

But the worst one of them all is - Piles
Can't stand that mothafucka
[Edited 7/16/09 18:24pm]

GETO BOYS "Grip It! On That Other Level" would be my choice for most offensive rap album of all time.

NONSENSE said:

Khia singing Snatch the cat back!

http://www.youtube.com/wa...9HZ9q4jxWY