scriptgirl said:

Since this---and Atlantic has been a Warner subsidiary since the mid 1970's....

Sunday, December 21st, 2008


"Though Warner Music Group has shut down its official YouTube channel, WMG artists that maintain their own YouTube pages, such as Disney darling Ashley Tisdale, don't seem to have gotten the memo about the content teardown
Dissatisfied with payment arrangements, music label removes its videos
By Matthew B. Zeidman

NEW YORK (Hollywood Today) 12/22/08 – Apparently, Warner Music Group (WMG) believes its videos are worth more than video-sharing giant YouTube is paying. According to The New York Times, the world’s fourth largest record label began pulling content on Saturday, citing an unfair licensing agreement.

“We simply cannot accept the terms that fail to appropriately and fairly compensate recording artists, songwriters, labels and publishers for the value they provide,” WMG said in a statement.

YouTube addressed the situation on its blog Friday, apologizing for any frustration on the part of its users, but emphasizing the need to respect the rights of musicians, songwriters and fans alike.

WMG, like many other music labels, had a contract with YouTube that specified an undisclosed rate of payment based on the number of times each video was viewed.

The dissolution of the company’s relationship with YouTube came on the heels of an announcement by the Recording Industry Association of America, an industry trade group of which WMG is a member, that it would no longer pursue costly legal action against consumers caught pirating music, but would instead work with content-providing Web sites to block scofflaws."


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paligap said:

It's not just Slave's stuff they did it to. I tried to upload a Christopher Williams song that was on WB and it was denied also. So, maybe they're trying to control their copyright.

Have ALWAYS loved both bands BUT for me it's the Ohio Players....HANDS DOWN. The Ohio Players not only influenced funk powerhouses such as Parliament-Funkadelic, Bootsy, The Commodores, E, W & F, and Cameo but they also showed these bands ( minus E,W & F...well, maybe to a degree) how to specifically WRITE a song for the radio. They laid the blueprint down to how to STILL keep and highlight all of your killin' musicianship, all the while showing how to write a coldblooded hook designed to hit on the radio. The Ohio Players were the masters at this. They laid the blueprint down for the others on how to write a HIT song while STILL staying true to the funk at the same time. Slave was no joke either. They were youngbloods taking funk to a new frontier. They DEFINATELY were well qualified. They had the killer musicianship which was crucial for a serious funk band and also had bangin' songwriting. Drac TOTALLY laid the blueprint down on the cut "Slide" for a young Prince and schooled him on how to properly lay down a killin' rock solo over a funk groove. The solo Prince did on The Time's "Get It Up" is VERY heavily influenced by Drac's solo in "Slide". VERY.... Mark's bass lines were ALWAYS killin' and way high in the mix, which I loved. And Steve's vocals were perfect for the radio too.
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O-H-I-O





http://www.youtube.com/wa...BkVV9xxCHE

Is that rerun from what's happening pop locking?

scriptgirl said:

Nah, Fredrick was indeed a Locker but he's not one of the 3 Lockers that's up there with the OP's.

paligap said:

Looks like they might reach an agreement after all---News from Cnet:

July 10, 2009 3:20 PM PDT

Warner Music Group and YouTube talking again

by Greg Sandoval


Six months ago, talks between Warner Music Group and YouTube over the licensing of the label's music videos broke down, and since then, anyone looking for official clips from acts such as The Red Hot Chili Peppers, Death Cab for Cutie, and Green Day has likely been disappointed.

That presumably could change as the companies have entered into a new round of talks, according to two sources with knowledge of the negotiations. While the companies have spoken several times over the past half year, the most recent discussions are more serious, the sources said.

No deals have been worked out and there's a long way to go before any agreement is reached, said the sources. But they added that the mini-cold war between YouTube and Warner Music may be thawing.

Representatives from Warner Music and YouTube declined to comment.

The two sides parted ways last December as YouTube was trying to renew its licensing agreement for Warner Music's videos.

The impasse was a result of Warner's insistence on a deal that was in line with the terms offered to competitors. Another music industry source said the disagreement between YouTube and Warner Music was much more complex than that but declined to elaborate.

Since December, YouTube has struck licensing deals with all the other three top recording companies, Universal Music Group, Sony Music, and EMI. YouTube would likely be glad to once again be able to offer videos from all the majors. Warner artists would likely welcome a return to YouTube and the exposure the Web's No. 1 video site offers.



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The Ohio Players

diamondpearl1 said:

"The group was formed in Ohio by New Jersey native horn player/songwriter/producer Steve Washington (funk obviously runs in the blood - Washington's uncle was Ralph "Pee Wee" Middlebrook of the famed Ohio Players."

www.discogs.com/artist/Slave

Thumparello said:

Initially maybe, but many of those acts eventually developped their own trademark sound, such as Slave's elemental bass-sound by Mark Adams and Steve Arrington's vocal-style (which influenced later a singer like Keith Sweat).
Cameo's "Funk Funk" for example sounded very P*Funk-ish but through every following album their own sound grew more and more which got them much gold records.

No question....OHIO PLAYERS. First there was Sugarfoot then Prince!
The funk, the sexy lyrics, no doubt OP !

Love 'em both.....but I'd have 2 go with 2 decades of O.H.I.O.

Is this a joke?

Who'd She Coo beats the hell out of anything Slave ever did. Skin Tight? Come on.


I love Sugarfoot's voice changes on a song like Honey. He can be sweet and seductive and funky in one line of a song.

Ohio Players all the way...

heybaby said:

sweet sticky thing has always been one of my favorites

Vendetta1 said:

That's EXACTLY the same thing that I thought when I first saw the thread. And I dig Slave too but DAMN?

Vendetta1 said:

I'm honestly kinda shocked at the # of folks who have picked Slave over OP so far. I know it's all subjective but I was thinking that even the Westbound years of OP kicked Slave's catalog to the curb. And don't get me wrong, I like Slave but... YIKES!!!!

bsk3601 said:

Again, all props to OP...but if we're really talking personal favorites--I'm picking Slave--- And that's not saying they're better at all---I know the Ohio Players have got them on years, originality, scope, longevity....hell, I was weaned on Westbound-Era Ohio Players(I'm a huge Junie Morrison "Funky Worm" freak)----If you were to ask Slave members themselves, hell, They'd probably name the Ohio Players!!! --- OP was their big local influence!
But again, if we're talking about a feel that I prefer, I'm still going with Slave.....something about the Lead, Rhythm guitar, and Bass combination of Mark "Drac" Hicks, Danny Webster, and Mark Adams that just hits me differently---it's just a subjective preference,that's all....Just my opinion....










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Why is it a putdown to one if you say you like the other more? I like both, but my eardrum and my ass fancy Slave a bit more. It's all about that big bass and Arrington's voice for me.

[/quote]I like both, but my eardrum and my ass fancy Slave a bit more. It's all about that big bass and Arrington's voice for me.[quote]

Exactly. Steve Arrington's voice, while not groundbreaking is unique and just does something for me. He is in my top ten fave voices of all time
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I got the Ohio Players cd from the library and to be honest I was kinda shocked how much I didnt like it either way

There's a worm in the ground yes it is, he lives six feet down. He only comes around, when he wants to get down.
That should have answered it, boy do I love Grand Theft Auto.

Ohio Player's Billy Beck was semi-part of Slave around 1985 :



And he played as guest musician on a number of Roger Troutman-productions around 1983-1984.



Here he's wormin' the funk into a Casio :

Ohio Players!

paligap said:

No doubt, sir!!! I'm not knocking personal preference by any means... especially from folks like you who know what they're talking about. Knowing that you are such a huge Junie fan I was kinda shocked to see your preference. Believe me, I still respect your opinions because I know you're a class act and "good peoples"

op and slave both get props for being the baddest bands on the planet.

bsk3601 said:

all respect to You,tooI know you're on your game! I know most people are goin' with the Ohio Players --Actually, they never really got their deserved props in the Music World, not the way that P-Funk has---(and BTW, neither has Junie, who smoked in both groups!!!!)
and this just reminded me, my wife and I met because of the Ohio Players song "Angel" !!!!

Yeah, it's just a feel preference, that's all.... something about it.... Although I've enjoyed listening to the greatest Bassists over the years, from Jamerson to Bootsy Collins, From Louis Johnson to Jaco to Stanley Clarke...It was Slave's Mark Adams that actually made me walk into a store and buy a Bass (well, him, and Mark King ).....



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bsk3601 said:

I'm not. OP is legendary. No doubt. Personally i couldn't get into OP
westbound years so i would disagree with that period overtaking slave's
catalog. OP's classic period and dominant period were during the
Mercury years 74-77. After the Angel album most of their material
afterwards were mediocre. Slave's run probably lasted a little longer
though OP's best albums were more classic than Slave's. Slave was on the
radio and the charts from 76-82. That was Slave's dominant period. I
couldn't choose but i could definitely understand why some people picked
Slave. They were probably the most underrated funk band in the business
but they laid shit down back in the day.

TD3 said:

that is sooooo "Raw Dawg"!!!!!

So Hot