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PrintableTimmy84 said: dreamfactory313 said: I know. I feel the same way! There is so much tension and drama in that buildup. It demands that you dance to it. It almost has a life or heart beat of its own.  It's like "Got to Give It Up" or "And the Beat Goes On", when you hear the long versions, you...can't...stop...dancing.  And if you hear correctly, this version is what the second demo of "Billie Jean" was. I know. Its such a timless classic. | |
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As with all things being touted by Ian Halperin at the moment - take it for what it is.
Swa ----- 'Greed killed Michael Jackson,' Montreal-born author Ian Halperin says Exclusive interview: Montreal-born author Ian Halperin says the singer was not a child molester and that he was done in by prescription drugs and people who took advantage of him. MONTREAL - When Montreal-born author Ian Halperin first set out to write the definitive Michael Jackson biography, his intention was to nail the pop icon to the wall. It was 2005 and Jackson had just been acquitted of a second charge of child molestation. By the time Halperin, 44, finished the book, and long before Jackson died two weeks ago, his opinion of the troubled artist had undergone a 180-degree shift. "I interviewed all kinds of people connected to the case and kids who stayed at NeverLand, and my final conclusion today is that he is 100 per cent not a child molester," Halperin said in an exclusive interview with The Gazette this week. Rather it was Jackson's childlike attitude toward both his business dealings and his personal life that were his undoing, Halperin said. As fate would have it, Halperin's book was ready to go to the presses one day before Jackson died on June 25. After some furious rewrites and a change of title, Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson will hit bookstores on Tuesday. Halperin, who worked briefly in The Gazette library in 1986, decided to give the first Canadian print interview to this paper before the publication of what will undoubtedly be a bestseller. He declined to say what he stands to make on the sales of this book, which will initially be sold in Canada, the U.S., Britain and France. "At this point, I've been working 24/7 on finding out more information on how he died. I've poured blood, sweat and tears into this story for so many years, the last thing I want to come out with now is how much I'm going make on this; it's ridiculous," he said. Halperin is on the record in December as predicting the King of Pop's death, missing the date by one day. "People were skeptical when you say someone has six months to live and I said that Dec. 24, 2008," Halperin said from Los Angeles the day after a massive memorial service at the Staples Centre. "I've spent years researching this, getting access to a lot of his confidential records and documents, and he really was a candidate to pop off at any second. "He hasn't been in great shape for a long time, both mentally and physically, so I wasn't just saying something off the top of my head. I was serious." Halperin used many methods to infiltrate the Jackson camp for the unauthorized biography. He befriended numerous people in Jackson's inner circle and went undercover as a hairdresser, taking a two-month course learning how to style hair. "Sources that were close to him helped me out. ... They were concerned about a lot of the vultures in his camp, so they'd give me tips," he said. "No one really refused to speak to me." Halperin cites several pivotal events in Jackson's life that led to his downward spiral: his addiction to prescription painkillers after suffering burns in an accident while filming a Pepsi commercial in 1984; his first charge of child molestation that surfaced in 1993; the court case based on more charges in 2004; and the prospect of a 50-concert tour at the age of 50. He quotes a letter he says he dug up from Jackson's insurance company demanding the pop star settle the 1993 charges levied by the family of Jordan Chandler. "Michael was livid, he broke down in tears, he did not want to settle, he wanted to prove his innocence." Halperin says in his book that the second boy to accuse Jackson of sexual touching was drugged when he made his statement. "Well, his dad was a dentist, but I don't want to go into too much detail because it's all in the book and I don't think the publisher will be too happy," he said. He also accuses the family of the second boy, Gavin Arvizo, of "having a history of being fraudsters; they had tried this drill before on other people." In the first case, it is rumoured that Jackson paid $25 million in 1994 to the family of the first boy. The second case, which went to court, ended in acquittal in 2005. "The child-molestation charges just drained him, in legal fees and also mentally. In the second case, he didn't want to go through it again, and that's why he became addicted to drugs and alcohol and had to go through rehab several times," Halperin said. "When he agreed to do the 10 concerts in London, he was cool with that, but not the 50 (concerts) that were forced on him by his handlers who were drooling at the prospect of all that money. "They never cared about him and just wanted to see what he could do for their own bank accounts." Halperin was so sure Jackson would never sing a note or bust a dance move in London that he never bothered to book plane tickets. Halperin echoed what many people have said since Jackson went into cardiac arrest in a rented Hollywood mansion - that drugs killed the entertainer. The autopsy results, particularly the toxicology report, have yet to be released. "Well, look, definitely prescription drugs were involved, that's no secret, obviously, but I don't think you have to look at the autopsy to find out what killed him. "You just gotta go to the money and it was greed that killed Michael Jackson. ... People took advantage - and I allude to the last 15 years - of his naïveté as an excuse to cash in, and that's the real tragedy and that's what drove his physical and mental pain. "He has been the victim of extortionists, people who have come after him maliciously, and it's very sad. That's what led to the emotional pain and that's what drove him to numb himself." Halperin also says Jackson wasn't sober when he sat for a damming interview with British journalist Martin Bashir in 2003 and that Jackson's marriage to Debbie Rowe broke up because she was unable to bear any more children after she gave birth to Paris. Other tidbits from the book? "I think people will be surprised to see the role the Church of Scientology (played) in Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie (Presley), who was a devout Scientologist," Halperin said. He also said he goes into detail about the biological origins of Jackson's children. "I feel extremely bad for the kids, because Michael was such a doting father and especially at the end, he just lived for his kids." asutherland@ thegazette.canwest.com © Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette http://www.montrealgazett...story.html "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Swa said: As with all things being touted by Ian Halperin at the moment - take it for what it is.
Swa ----- 'Greed killed Michael Jackson,' Montreal-born author Ian Halperin says Exclusive interview: Montreal-born author Ian Halperin says the singer was not a child molester and that he was done in by prescription drugs and people who took advantage of him. MONTREAL - When Montreal-born author Ian Halperin first set out to write the definitive Michael Jackson biography, his intention was to nail the pop icon to the wall. It was 2005 and Jackson had just been acquitted of a second charge of child molestation. By the time Halperin, 44, finished the book, and long before Jackson died two weeks ago, his opinion of the troubled artist had undergone a 180-degree shift. "I interviewed all kinds of people connected to the case and kids who stayed at NeverLand, and my final conclusion today is that he is 100 per cent not a child molester," Halperin said in an exclusive interview with The Gazette this week. Rather it was Jackson's childlike attitude toward both his business dealings and his personal life that were his undoing, Halperin said. As fate would have it, Halperin's book was ready to go to the presses one day before Jackson died on June 25. After some furious rewrites and a change of title, Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson will hit bookstores on Tuesday. Halperin, who worked briefly in The Gazette library in 1986, decided to give the first Canadian print interview to this paper before the publication of what will undoubtedly be a bestseller. He declined to say what he stands to make on the sales of this book, which will initially be sold in Canada, the U.S., Britain and France. "At this point, I've been working 24/7 on finding out more information on how he died. I've poured blood, sweat and tears into this story for so many years, the last thing I want to come out with now is how much I'm going make on this; it's ridiculous," he said. Halperin is on the record in December as predicting the King of Pop's death, missing the date by one day. "People were skeptical when you say someone has six months to live and I said that Dec. 24, 2008," Halperin said from Los Angeles the day after a massive memorial service at the Staples Centre. "I've spent years researching this, getting access to a lot of his confidential records and documents, and he really was a candidate to pop off at any second. "He hasn't been in great shape for a long time, both mentally and physically, so I wasn't just saying something off the top of my head. I was serious." Halperin used many methods to infiltrate the Jackson camp for the unauthorized biography. He befriended numerous people in Jackson's inner circle and went undercover as a hairdresser, taking a two-month course learning how to style hair. "Sources that were close to him helped me out. ... They were concerned about a lot of the vultures in his camp, so they'd give me tips," he said. "No one really refused to speak to me." Halperin cites several pivotal events in Jackson's life that led to his downward spiral: his addiction to prescription painkillers after suffering burns in an accident while filming a Pepsi commercial in 1984; his first charge of child molestation that surfaced in 1993; the court case based on more charges in 2004; and the prospect of a 50-concert tour at the age of 50. He quotes a letter he says he dug up from Jackson's insurance company demanding the pop star settle the 1993 charges levied by the family of Jordan Chandler. "Michael was livid, he broke down in tears, he did not want to settle, he wanted to prove his innocence." Halperin says in his book that the second boy to accuse Jackson of sexual touching was drugged when he made his statement. "Well, his dad was a dentist, but I don't want to go into too much detail because it's all in the book and I don't think the publisher will be too happy," he said. He also accuses the family of the second boy, Gavin Arvizo, of "having a history of being fraudsters; they had tried this drill before on other people." In the first case, it is rumoured that Jackson paid $25 million in 1994 to the family of the first boy. The second case, which went to court, ended in acquittal in 2005. "The child-molestation charges just drained him, in legal fees and also mentally. In the second case, he didn't want to go through it again, and that's why he became addicted to drugs and alcohol and had to go through rehab several times," Halperin said. "When he agreed to do the 10 concerts in London, he was cool with that, but not the 50 (concerts) that were forced on him by his handlers who were drooling at the prospect of all that money. "They never cared about him and just wanted to see what he could do for their own bank accounts." Halperin was so sure Jackson would never sing a note or bust a dance move in London that he never bothered to book plane tickets. Halperin echoed what many people have said since Jackson went into cardiac arrest in a rented Hollywood mansion - that drugs killed the entertainer. The autopsy results, particularly the toxicology report, have yet to be released. "Well, look, definitely prescription drugs were involved, that's no secret, obviously, but I don't think you have to look at the autopsy to find out what killed him. "You just gotta go to the money and it was greed that killed Michael Jackson. ... People took advantage - and I allude to the last 15 years - of his naïveté as an excuse to cash in, and that's the real tragedy and that's what drove his physical and mental pain. "He has been the victim of extortionists, people who have come after him maliciously, and it's very sad. That's what led to the emotional pain and that's what drove him to numb himself." Halperin also says Jackson wasn't sober when he sat for a damming interview with British journalist Martin Bashir in 2003 and that Jackson's marriage to Debbie Rowe broke up because she was unable to bear any more children after she gave birth to Paris. Other tidbits from the book? "I think people will be surprised to see the role the Church of Scientology (played) in Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie (Presley), who was a devout Scientologist," Halperin said. He also said he goes into detail about the biological origins of Jackson's children. "I feel extremely bad for the kids, because Michael was such a doting father and especially at the end, he just lived for his kids." asutherland@ thegazette.canwest.com © Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette http://www.montrealgazett...story.html I think I'm going to launch a career as a celebrity biographer. This shit seems so easy.  | |
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errant said: Swa said: As with all things being touted by Ian Halperin at the moment - take it for what it is.
Swa ----- 'Greed killed Michael Jackson,' Montreal-born author Ian Halperin says Exclusive interview: Montreal-born author Ian Halperin says the singer was not a child molester and that he was done in by prescription drugs and people who took advantage of him. MONTREAL - When Montreal-born author Ian Halperin first set out to write the definitive Michael Jackson biography, his intention was to nail the pop icon to the wall. It was 2005 and Jackson had just been acquitted of a second charge of child molestation. By the time Halperin, 44, finished the book, and long before Jackson died two weeks ago, his opinion of the troubled artist had undergone a 180-degree shift. "I interviewed all kinds of people connected to the case and kids who stayed at NeverLand, and my final conclusion today is that he is 100 per cent not a child molester," Halperin said in an exclusive interview with The Gazette this week. Rather it was Jackson's childlike attitude toward both his business dealings and his personal life that were his undoing, Halperin said. As fate would have it, Halperin's book was ready to go to the presses one day before Jackson died on June 25. After some furious rewrites and a change of title, Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson will hit bookstores on Tuesday. Halperin, who worked briefly in The Gazette library in 1986, decided to give the first Canadian print interview to this paper before the publication of what will undoubtedly be a bestseller. He declined to say what he stands to make on the sales of this book, which will initially be sold in Canada, the U.S., Britain and France. "At this point, I've been working 24/7 on finding out more information on how he died. I've poured blood, sweat and tears into this story for so many years, the last thing I want to come out with now is how much I'm going make on this; it's ridiculous," he said. Halperin is on the record in December as predicting the King of Pop's death, missing the date by one day. "People were skeptical when you say someone has six months to live and I said that Dec. 24, 2008," Halperin said from Los Angeles the day after a massive memorial service at the Staples Centre. "I've spent years researching this, getting access to a lot of his confidential records and documents, and he really was a candidate to pop off at any second. "He hasn't been in great shape for a long time, both mentally and physically, so I wasn't just saying something off the top of my head. I was serious." Halperin used many methods to infiltrate the Jackson camp for the unauthorized biography. He befriended numerous people in Jackson's inner circle and went undercover as a hairdresser, taking a two-month course learning how to style hair. "Sources that were close to him helped me out. ... They were concerned about a lot of the vultures in his camp, so they'd give me tips," he said. "No one really refused to speak to me." Halperin cites several pivotal events in Jackson's life that led to his downward spiral: his addiction to prescription painkillers after suffering burns in an accident while filming a Pepsi commercial in 1984; his first charge of child molestation that surfaced in 1993; the court case based on more charges in 2004; and the prospect of a 50-concert tour at the age of 50. He quotes a letter he says he dug up from Jackson's insurance company demanding the pop star settle the 1993 charges levied by the family of Jordan Chandler. "Michael was livid, he broke down in tears, he did not want to settle, he wanted to prove his innocence." Halperin says in his book that the second boy to accuse Jackson of sexual touching was drugged when he made his statement. "Well, his dad was a dentist, but I don't want to go into too much detail because it's all in the book and I don't think the publisher will be too happy," he said. He also accuses the family of the second boy, Gavin Arvizo, of "having a history of being fraudsters; they had tried this drill before on other people." In the first case, it is rumoured that Jackson paid $25 million in 1994 to the family of the first boy. The second case, which went to court, ended in acquittal in 2005. "The child-molestation charges just drained him, in legal fees and also mentally. In the second case, he didn't want to go through it again, and that's why he became addicted to drugs and alcohol and had to go through rehab several times," Halperin said. "When he agreed to do the 10 concerts in London, he was cool with that, but not the 50 (concerts) that were forced on him by his handlers who were drooling at the prospect of all that money. "They never cared about him and just wanted to see what he could do for their own bank accounts." Halperin was so sure Jackson would never sing a note or bust a dance move in London that he never bothered to book plane tickets. Halperin echoed what many people have said since Jackson went into cardiac arrest in a rented Hollywood mansion - that drugs killed the entertainer. The autopsy results, particularly the toxicology report, have yet to be released. "Well, look, definitely prescription drugs were involved, that's no secret, obviously, but I don't think you have to look at the autopsy to find out what killed him. "You just gotta go to the money and it was greed that killed Michael Jackson. ... People took advantage - and I allude to the last 15 years - of his naïveté as an excuse to cash in, and that's the real tragedy and that's what drove his physical and mental pain. "He has been the victim of extortionists, people who have come after him maliciously, and it's very sad. That's what led to the emotional pain and that's what drove him to numb himself." Halperin also says Jackson wasn't sober when he sat for a damming interview with British journalist Martin Bashir in 2003 and that Jackson's marriage to Debbie Rowe broke up because she was unable to bear any more children after she gave birth to Paris. Other tidbits from the book? "I think people will be surprised to see the role the Church of Scientology (played) in Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie (Presley), who was a devout Scientologist," Halperin said. He also said he goes into detail about the biological origins of Jackson's children. "I feel extremely bad for the kids, because Michael was such a doting father and especially at the end, he just lived for his kids." asutherland@ thegazette.canwest.com © Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette http://www.montrealgazett...story.html I think I'm going to launch a career as a celebrity biographer. This shit seems so easy. I know. Whatever facts you dont know, you can just make up. | |
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You have made your point several times now. What is the point in harping on and on about it when we don't know these people, what their lives are/were really like, what their situation was, or even how the guy really died? Michael Jackson is dead. What is the point in trying to hold him accountable for them not having a mother? And how would you? He's gone. Your point about assigning him responsibility for ANYTHING now is completely irrelevant. He's dead. End of story as far as that goes. I mean, I like to argue inconsequential shit into the ground until I'm blue in the face as much as the next guy (more, as you probably know). But the man is dead. These children lost the only parent they ever knew, and you want someone to hold him accountable for them not having a mother in their lives? Anyone that would do that to those children would be evil and disgusting and should be slapped. They'll figure it out on their own in time, or maybe they won't... maybe they'll remember their father fondly and not give as much of a damn about it as you seem to. After all, it really IS their business and none of yours. hey, hey, hey... alright, seriously, each of us is going to have thoughts of their own during this time. i dont think that we can judge each other for those feelings or the questions that we have. this is afterall a public discussion forum and not a private burial party for the man. i understand that the questions raised may be difficult to think about, but you have to realize that mike lived a very 'questionable' life. as far as that mother giving up her rights and michael paying her for those kids, that makes me sick to my stomach! i AM a mother and i dont understand how the hell she could do something like that - michael either for that matter, whenever possible you would want your child to have the benefit of both parents in their life. i dont understand why this whole thing happened.... sorry, i just needed to say that. why dont we let each other discuss what we need to discuss and try to let the arguing between each other go - afterall, its not going to change the outcome of the michael jackson story at all.  One of the best days of my life... http://prince.org/msg/100/291111
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Anaheim, CA - When Michael Jackson turned towards the crowd after helping Elizabeth Taylor out of the limousine, artist Leon Jones had skillfully managed to get out in front of everyone else. "Mr. Jackson, Ms. Taylor, would you please autograph my painting?" called Leon from the pressing mass of fans. Michael glanced over and with a huge smile on his face, pointed out the painting to Ms. Taylor who was still adjusting herself after getting out of the limo. Now they were both smiling!
As Michael motioned for the painting to be brought over to them, Elizabeth Taylor graciously stated that it would be an honor to autograph it. Signed with a silver paint pen, each autograph measures about 12 inches long. It was the only thing either of them signed before disappearing into the building. A Laguna Beach police officer escorted Leon back to his vehicle through a crowd of people trying to 'touch' the painting.   That February 9, 2002 was the first time Leon Jones (above) met Michael Jackson. Little did the self-taught artist realize that the magical experience was just a prelude to a long relationship with Michael Jackson who would later commission him to paint two large murals and a go cart at his sprawling Santa Barbara County residence known as Neverland. These memories are now ones that will haunt him forever.
During the following summer of 2003, Jones spent several months at the ranch, painting what he considers to be some of his best work. However, like most things dealing with Michael Jackson, Jones' encounters prior to his arrival at the ranch were clouded with mystery. Well known for his celebrity renditions, he has captured a pool of diverse legends, living and departed, including Lucille Ball and Audrey Hepburn, recent stars Jennifer Love Hewitt, Jennifer Lopez and hip hop icons Dr. Dre, Ice Cube and Tupac Shakur. His work is so amazingly stunning that many of his paintings are in fact signed by the individual entertainers. Jones owns work autographed by Jay Leno, Kobe Bryant, Shaquille O'Neal, Jennifer Lopez, Jennifer Love Hewitt and Snoop Dogg to name a few. His most recent painting is one dedicated to recently departed Angel's baseball pitcher Nick Adenhart which is signed by 23 of his Angel team members. Jones' autographed Michael Jackson/Elizabeth Taylor airbrushed portrait is simply magnificent to gaze upon. The untitled work is 36"X48" with each autograph emblazoned in bold silver ink. In the aftermath of Jackson's demise, the work is a destined collector's item. Jones will auction the masterpiece on Ebay with bidding to start on Friday, July 17. A portion of the profits will be donated to a children's charity. The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines.  | |
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nakedpianoplayer said: errant said: Supa!
You have made your point several times now. What is the point in harping on and on about it when we don't know these people, what their lives are/were really like, what their situation was, or even how the guy really died? Michael Jackson is dead. What is the point in trying to hold him accountable for them not having a mother? And how would you? He's gone. Your point about assigning him responsibility for ANYTHING now is completely irrelevant. He's dead. End of story as far as that goes. I mean, I like to argue inconsequential shit into the ground until I'm blue in the face as much as the next guy (more, as you probably know). But the man is dead. These children lost the only parent they ever knew, and you want someone to hold him accountable for them not having a mother in their lives? Anyone that would do that to those children would be evil and disgusting and should be slapped. They'll figure it out on their own in time, or maybe they won't... maybe they'll remember their father fondly and not give as much of a damn about it as you seem to. After all, it really IS their business and none of yours. hey, hey, hey... alright, seriously, each of us is going to have thoughts of their own during this time. i dont think that we can judge each other for those feelings or the questions that we have. this is afterall a public discussion forum and not a private burial party for the man. i understand that the questions raised may be difficult to think about, but you have to realize that mike lived a very 'questionable' life. as far as that mother giving up her rights and michael paying her for those kids, that makes me sick to my stomach! i AM a mother and i dont understand how the hell she could do something like that - michael either for that matter, whenever possible you would want your child to have the benefit of both parents in their life. i dont understand why this whole thing happened.... sorry, i just needed to say that. why dont we let each other discuss what we need to discuss and try to let the arguing between each other go - afterall, its not going to change the outcome of the michael jackson story at all. oh, look, I have no problem with people digging into MJ's life or expressing opinions on it. I'm doing it myself. But when you get to the point of saying (over and over) that he should be assigned responsibility and held accountable for keeping the children's mother out of their lives, really what's the point? he's dead. he's no longer responsible or accountable for anything. it's all over now, and however those kids feel about their father or the life he gave them or denied them, is their business and something they will have a long time to consider and come to terms with. also, I hate Supa, so.... there's that too. | |
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It's so depressing seeing how everyone is reacting to the death of this man. I mean money and fame bring out the worst in people. I wonder where the fuck these people all come from. Must be a different breed. People I've known would never act like this in these situations, horrible. No one has any class, decency respect. Everyone is trying to get there little piece and give their little piece too. Horrible, what kind of society do we live in. I absolutely anticipated it all but it's still sickening to me. All I can go back to is what Michael meant to me and that is a man who was outside of the normal, like myself in so many ways. Being semi-tribal in origin, I've never felt comfortable with the rigid, arbitrary, often senseless bounds of societies' conventions. With Michael we have so much latitude regarding race, sex and class, those issues which will dog america as long as it exists. This latitude will allow everyone to come out of the woodwork and tell their little story of being molested, having gay sex, or straight sex with the man. People will say they heard him do and say things, people will say they saw all kinds of things which can't all be true at once for one person. And they will do all these things for the attention and money at another mans expense. The meaning of Michael for me has always been that you could be a man without being the stereotypical, macho asshole, that you could be a musician without the old boundaries. He exploded so much. The pressure he lived under had to be insane and would have broken most people in one way or another. Human beings are not made to recieve adulation and attention like that and it's not good for the soul, it warps it. All in all, this man is undeniably one of the most fascinating human beings we'll all ever see. I think it's interesting that no one brings up how wonderful a father he was and uses this to dispel the molestation allegations. By all accounts, he was a great father, if he was such a great dad by all accounts, I'd have to think the abuse allegations were bull, which I already did. I've never minded him sleeping with kids, I slept with my dad until his passing (when I was nine) being Indian, we don't look at everything through the fucked up prism of sex obsessed america. Michael Jackson, when all is said and done is a mirror for all of our countries deep seated and backwards ideas. | |
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errant said: Swa said: As with all things being touted by Ian Halperin at the moment - take it for what it is.
Swa ----- 'Greed killed Michael Jackson,' Montreal-born author Ian Halperin says Exclusive interview: Montreal-born author Ian Halperin says the singer was not a child molester and that he was done in by prescription drugs and people who took advantage of him. MONTREAL - When Montreal-born author Ian Halperin first set out to write the definitive Michael Jackson biography, his intention was to nail the pop icon to the wall. It was 2005 and Jackson had just been acquitted of a second charge of child molestation. By the time Halperin, 44, finished the book, and long before Jackson died two weeks ago, his opinion of the troubled artist had undergone a 180-degree shift. "I interviewed all kinds of people connected to the case and kids who stayed at NeverLand, and my final conclusion today is that he is 100 per cent not a child molester," Halperin said in an exclusive interview with The Gazette this week. Rather it was Jackson's childlike attitude toward both his business dealings and his personal life that were his undoing, Halperin said. As fate would have it, Halperin's book was ready to go to the presses one day before Jackson died on June 25. After some furious rewrites and a change of title, Unmasked: The Final Years of Michael Jackson will hit bookstores on Tuesday. Halperin, who worked briefly in The Gazette library in 1986, decided to give the first Canadian print interview to this paper before the publication of what will undoubtedly be a bestseller. He declined to say what he stands to make on the sales of this book, which will initially be sold in Canada, the U.S., Britain and France. "At this point, I've been working 24/7 on finding out more information on how he died. I've poured blood, sweat and tears into this story for so many years, the last thing I want to come out with now is how much I'm going make on this; it's ridiculous," he said. Halperin is on the record in December as predicting the King of Pop's death, missing the date by one day. "People were skeptical when you say someone has six months to live and I said that Dec. 24, 2008," Halperin said from Los Angeles the day after a massive memorial service at the Staples Centre. "I've spent years researching this, getting access to a lot of his confidential records and documents, and he really was a candidate to pop off at any second. "He hasn't been in great shape for a long time, both mentally and physically, so I wasn't just saying something off the top of my head. I was serious." Halperin used many methods to infiltrate the Jackson camp for the unauthorized biography. He befriended numerous people in Jackson's inner circle and went undercover as a hairdresser, taking a two-month course learning how to style hair. "Sources that were close to him helped me out. ... They were concerned about a lot of the vultures in his camp, so they'd give me tips," he said. "No one really refused to speak to me." Halperin cites several pivotal events in Jackson's life that led to his downward spiral: his addiction to prescription painkillers after suffering burns in an accident while filming a Pepsi commercial in 1984; his first charge of child molestation that surfaced in 1993; the court case based on more charges in 2004; and the prospect of a 50-concert tour at the age of 50. He quotes a letter he says he dug up from Jackson's insurance company demanding the pop star settle the 1993 charges levied by the family of Jordan Chandler. "Michael was livid, he broke down in tears, he did not want to settle, he wanted to prove his innocence." Halperin says in his book that the second boy to accuse Jackson of sexual touching was drugged when he made his statement. "Well, his dad was a dentist, but I don't want to go into too much detail because it's all in the book and I don't think the publisher will be too happy," he said. He also accuses the family of the second boy, Gavin Arvizo, of "having a history of being fraudsters; they had tried this drill before on other people." In the first case, it is rumoured that Jackson paid $25 million in 1994 to the family of the first boy. The second case, which went to court, ended in acquittal in 2005. "The child-molestation charges just drained him, in legal fees and also mentally. In the second case, he didn't want to go through it again, and that's why he became addicted to drugs and alcohol and had to go through rehab several times," Halperin said. "When he agreed to do the 10 concerts in London, he was cool with that, but not the 50 (concerts) that were forced on him by his handlers who were drooling at the prospect of all that money. "They never cared about him and just wanted to see what he could do for their own bank accounts." Halperin was so sure Jackson would never sing a note or bust a dance move in London that he never bothered to book plane tickets. Halperin echoed what many people have said since Jackson went into cardiac arrest in a rented Hollywood mansion - that drugs killed the entertainer. The autopsy results, particularly the toxicology report, have yet to be released. "Well, look, definitely prescription drugs were involved, that's no secret, obviously, but I don't think you have to look at the autopsy to find out what killed him. "You just gotta go to the money and it was greed that killed Michael Jackson. ... People took advantage - and I allude to the last 15 years - of his naïveté as an excuse to cash in, and that's the real tragedy and that's what drove his physical and mental pain. "He has been the victim of extortionists, people who have come after him maliciously, and it's very sad. That's what led to the emotional pain and that's what drove him to numb himself." Halperin also says Jackson wasn't sober when he sat for a damming interview with British journalist Martin Bashir in 2003 and that Jackson's marriage to Debbie Rowe broke up because she was unable to bear any more children after she gave birth to Paris. Other tidbits from the book? "I think people will be surprised to see the role the Church of Scientology (played) in Michael's marriage to Lisa Marie (Presley), who was a devout Scientologist," Halperin said. He also said he goes into detail about the biological origins of Jackson's children. "I feel extremely bad for the kids, because Michael was such a doting father and especially at the end, he just lived for his kids." asutherland@ thegazette.canwest.com © Copyright (c) The Montreal Gazette http://www.montrealgazett...story.html I think I'm going to launch a career as a celebrity biographer. This shit seems so easy. Halperin is a piece of shit, do some homework on him. He's an inveterate liar and has been caught before. 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errant said: nakedpianoplayer said: hey, hey, hey... alright, seriously, each of us is going to have thoughts of their own during this time. i dont think that we can judge each other for those feelings or the questions that we have. this is afterall a public discussion forum and not a private burial party for the man. i understand that the questions raised may be difficult to think about, but you have to realize that mike lived a very 'questionable' life. as far as that mother giving up her rights and michael paying her for those kids, that makes me sick to my stomach! i AM a mother and i dont understand how the hell she could do something like that - michael either for that matter, whenever possible you would want your child to have the benefit of both parents in their life. i dont understand why this whole thing happened.... sorry, i just needed to say that. why dont we let each other discuss what we need to discuss and try to let the arguing between each other go - afterall, its not going to change the outcome of the michael jackson story at all. oh, look, I have no problem with people digging into MJ's life or expressing opinions on it. I'm doing it myself. But when you get to the point of saying (over and over) that he should be assigned responsibility and held accountable for keeping the children's mother out of their lives, really what's the point? he's dead. he's no longer responsible or accountable for anything. it's all over now, and however those kids feel about their father or the life he gave them or denied them, is their business and something they will have a long time to consider and come to terms with. also, I hate Supa, so.... there's that too. im sorry that you have hate in your heart for someone on an internet site. it seems a bit over the top to me  whatever's going on with the two of you is between you i guess, its just sad - i try to teach in my home that hate is an ugly word, and its hard on your heart... to each their own i suppose.
oh, and i rather enjoy Supa, so, i guess there's that as well  One of the best days of my life... http://prince.org/msg/100/291111
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mozfonky said: It's so depressing seeing how everyone is reacting to the death of this man. I mean money and fame bring out the worst in people. I wonder where the fuck these people all come from. Must be a different breed. People I've known would never act like this in these situations, horrible. No one has any class, decency respect. Everyone is trying to get there little piece and give their little piece too. Horrible, what kind of society do we live in. I absolutely anticipated it all but it's still sickening to me. All I can go back to is what Michael meant to me and that is a man who was outside of the normal, like myself in so many ways. Being semi-tribal in origin, I've never felt comfortable with the rigid, arbitrary, often senseless bounds of societies' conventions. With Michael we have so much latitude regarding race, sex and class, those issues which will dog america as long as it exists. This latitude will allow everyone to come out of the woodwork and tell their little story of being molested, having gay sex, or straight sex with the man. People will say they heard him do and say things, people will say they saw all kinds of things which can't all be true at once for one person. And they will do all these things for the attention and money at another mans expense. The meaning of Michael for me has always been that you could be a man without being the stereotypical, macho asshole, that you could be a musician without the old boundaries. He exploded so much. The pressure he lived under had to be insane and would have broken most people in one way or another. Human beings are not made to recieve adulation and attention like that and it's not good for the soul, it warps it. All in all, this man is undeniably one of the most fascinating human beings we'll all ever see. I think it's interesting that no one brings up how wonderful a father he was and uses this to dispel the molestation allegations. By all accounts, he was a great father, if he was such a great dad by all accounts, I'd have to think the abuse allegations were bull, which I already did. I've never minded him sleeping with kids, I slept with my dad until his passing (when I was nine) being Indian, we don't look at everything through the fucked up prism of sex obsessed america. Michael Jackson, when all is said and done is a mirror for all of our countries deep seated and backwards ideas.
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mozfonky said: It's so depressing seeing how everyone is reacting to the death of this man. I mean money and fame bring out the worst in people. I wonder where the fuck these people all come from. Must be a different breed. People I've known would never act like this in these situations, horrible. No one has any class, decency respect. Everyone is trying to get there little piece and give their little piece too. Horrible, what kind of society do we live in. I absolutely anticipated it all but it's still sickening to me. All I can go back to is what Michael meant to me and that is a man who was outside of the normal, like myself in so many ways. Being semi-tribal in origin, I've never felt comfortable with the rigid, arbitrary, often senseless bounds of societies' conventions. With Michael we have so much latitude regarding race, sex and class, those issues which will dog america as long as it exists. This latitude will allow everyone to come out of the woodwork and tell their little story of being molested, having gay sex, or straight sex with the man. People will say they heard him do and say things, people will say they saw all kinds of things which can't all be true at once for one person. And they will do all these things for the attention and money at another mans expense. The meaning of Michael for me has always been that you could be a man without being the stereotypical, macho asshole, that you could be a musician without the old boundaries. He exploded so much. The pressure he lived under had to be insane and would have broken most people in one way or another. Human beings are not made to recieve adulation and attention like that and it's not good for the soul, it warps it. All in all, this man is undeniably one of the most fascinating human beings we'll all ever see. I think it's interesting that no one brings up how wonderful a father he was and uses this to dispel the molestation allegations. By all accounts, he was a great father, if he was such a great dad by all accounts, I'd have to think the abuse allegations were bull, which I already did. I've never minded him sleeping with kids, I slept with my dad until his passing (when I was nine) being Indian, we don't look at everything through the fucked up prism of sex obsessed america. Michael Jackson, when all is said and done is a mirror for all of our countries deep seated and backwards ideas.
did you know that Alfonso Ribero(Carlton) testified on mj's trial that people offered him money to say that Michael molested him. that shit is just downright evil and sick. | |
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whatsgoingon said: blackguitaristz said: Well I respect yours and Vain's opinion because overall, you two are always stabilized in your reasoning for WHY you believe what ya'll do. If I agree with it or not. That said, personally, I'm one of the few that believe Michael wasn't gay and that he has slept with women. I'm not just going on Michael of the past 10 years. I remember when it was initially reported back when he was dating Tatum O'Neal and how she was "aggressive" sexually with Michael. During the same period, at a party with many guests at her dad's Ryan's house, many there witnessed Michael and Tatum behaving like 2 teens who were into each other, kissing, fondling, etc. And then there was the infamous "hot tub" with he and Tatum at the same party. And witnesses there saw Tatum and Michael going upstairs to her room. Granted, this was widely reported at that time in entertainment mags and somewhat so in teen mags of that era. Now if people believed it then or not or if people believe it now or not, that's entirely up to the individual. I'm one of the cats that always believed Michael slept with Tatum. When I was 8, 9 years old, there were rumors circulating that Michael and Diana Ross were more than friends and had been intimate. And at different times through Michael's life. From his early teens on up to Off The Wall. Me personally, I can see this happening. I remember well when Brooke and Michael were the HOT item in Hollywood. I have NO doubt that they were really close. I even believe that Brooke at that time, was in love with Michael. And I don't doubt Michael had love for Brooke. Not sure if Michael slept with Brooke and not because of Michael but mainly because I think Brooke wasn't really "sexually" ready perse. Her vibe was totally different from someone like Tatum. This of course are just my own observations. I think Michael really cared about Brooke and visa verse. But I do think they were MUCH closer than just "friends". Just my opinion. Lisa Marie, yeah, I believe he and Lisa slept together. But with me stating all of that, I do think Michael was very "sensitive" when it came to sex and I think it had a lot to do with how his father was towards his mother. The cheating and so forth, I think it hurt Michael because of his love for his mother. So although I do believe Michael has slept with women, I do believe it was with women he felt that he could "trust" emotionally. Just my opinion. [Edited 7/13/09 16:28pm] And the twist with the Brooke Shields story is that , after his death of course, she now claims he asked her to marry him several times. Yep....I don't really believe Michael asked Brooke once let alone several times but you know....Brooke always seemed cool. I know back in 82 and 83, everybody who was around back then could all see Brooke was heavy into Michael. And you could see that Brooke obviously was very hurt at the memorial. There was a lot of history between her and Michael and it showed while she was talking. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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did you know that Alfonso Ribero(Carlton) testified on mj's trial that people offered him money to say that Michael molested him. that shit is just downright evil and sick.[/quote]
Yeah, heard that and don't doubt it. Michael got to comfy with white folks for my taste, that's something you should never lose, that basic, fundamental distrust of the white man. Used to be, guys like Sugar Ray Robinson, or Joe Louis knew better, were at the very least wary of white society and knew a fucking was coming sooner or later, Michael and the later generations seem oblivious. | |
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mozfonky said: Yeah, heard that and don't doubt it. Michael got to comfy with white folks for my taste, that's something you should never lose, that basic, fundamental distrust of the white man. Used to be, guys like Sugar Ray Robinson, or Joe Louis knew better, were at the very least wary of white society and knew a fucking was coming sooner or later, Michael and the later generations seem oblivious. Yeah, because the biggest bloodsucker in his life, his father, is an evil white man, right?! Geezus, nothing like bringing some blatant bigotry to the discussion, good job!  | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: mozfonky said: It's so depressing seeing how everyone is reacting to the death of this man. I mean money and fame bring out the worst in people. I wonder where the fuck these people all come from. Must be a different breed. People I've known would never act like this in these situations, horrible. No one has any class, decency respect. Everyone is trying to get there little piece and give their little piece too. Horrible, what kind of society do we live in. I absolutely anticipated it all but it's still sickening to me. All I can go back to is what Michael meant to me and that is a man who was outside of the normal, like myself in so many ways. Being semi-tribal in origin, I've never felt comfortable with the rigid, arbitrary, often senseless bounds of societies' conventions. With Michael we have so much latitude regarding race, sex and class, those issues which will dog america as long as it exists. This latitude will allow everyone to come out of the woodwork and tell their little story of being molested, having gay sex, or straight sex with the man. People will say they heard him do and say things, people will say they saw all kinds of things which can't all be true at once for one person. And they will do all these things for the attention and money at another mans expense. The meaning of Michael for me has always been that you could be a man without being the stereotypical, macho asshole, that you could be a musician without the old boundaries. He exploded so much. The pressure he lived under had to be insane and would have broken most people in one way or another. Human beings are not made to recieve adulation and attention like that and it's not good for the soul, it warps it. All in all, this man is undeniably one of the most fascinating human beings we'll all ever see. I think it's interesting that no one brings up how wonderful a father he was and uses this to dispel the molestation allegations. By all accounts, he was a great father, if he was such a great dad by all accounts, I'd have to think the abuse allegations were bull, which I already did. I've never minded him sleeping with kids, I slept with my dad until his passing (when I was nine) being Indian, we don't look at everything through the fucked up prism of sex obsessed america. Michael Jackson, when all is said and done is a mirror for all of our countries deep seated and backwards ideas.
did you know that Alfonso Ribero(Carlton) testified on mj's trial that people offered him money to say that Michael molested him. that shit is just downright evil and sick. what??? that is horrible. I'm glad he didn't fall for that shit. The very idea of MJ possibly going to prison back then for such a horrible crime that he never committed is frightening to think about.. | |
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Serena said: mozfonky said: Yeah, heard that and don't doubt it. Michael got to comfy with white folks for my taste, that's something you should never lose, that basic, fundamental distrust of the white man. Used to be, guys like Sugar Ray Robinson, or Joe Louis knew better, were at the very least wary of white society and knew a fucking was coming sooner or later, Michael and the later generations seem oblivious. Yeah, because the biggest bloodsucker in his life, his father, is an evil white man, right?! Geezus, nothing like bringing some blatant bigotry to the discussion, good job! You know, you're white, your opinion is null and void to me. Beyond even me arguing with. Look at history, facts are facts. | |
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mozfonky said: did you know that Alfonso Ribero(Carlton) testified on mj's trial that people offered him money to say that Michael molested him. that shit is just downright evil and sick.
Yeah, heard that and don't doubt it. Michael got to comfy with white folks for my taste, that's something you should never lose, that basic, fundamental distrust of the white man. Used to be, guys like Sugar Ray Robinson, or Joe Louis knew better, were at the very least wary of white society and knew a fucking was coming sooner or later, Michael and the later generations seem oblivious.[/quote] Erm, both accusers were not white [Edited 7/13/09 21:27pm] | |
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mozfonky said: Serena said: Yeah, because the biggest bloodsucker in his life, his father, is an evil white man, right?! Geezus, nothing like bringing some blatant bigotry to the discussion, good job! You know, you're white, your opinion is null and void to me. Beyond even me arguing with. Look at history, facts are facts. BZZZZT!! Wrong conclusion! Why the hell do you think you know one thing about my heritage anyway?  | |
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Like I said pages back, some of you like to argue...over nothing. Can't you at least listen to the music I posted two pages ago? | |
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Arnotts said: mozfonky said: did you know that Alfonso Ribero(Carlton) testified on mj's trial that people offered him money to say that Michael molested him. that shit is just downright evil and sick.
Yeah, heard that and don't doubt it. Michael got to comfy with white folks for my taste, that's something you should never lose, that basic, fundamental distrust of the white man. Used to be, guys like Sugar Ray Robinson, or Joe Louis knew better, were at the very least wary of white society and knew a fucking was coming sooner or later, Michael and the later generations seem oblivious. Erm, both accusers were not white [Edited 7/13/09 21:27pm] [/quote] erm, Bob Sneddon, Maureen Orth and all the evil fucks who pushed for this to happen were all white. As is the horrible philosophy of capitalism which none of us can escape from. The sooner guys like Mike realize that these people have to be miserable people, the sooner they will stop worrying about being around them and doing everything to make them happy. Including getting a million plastic surgeries, the hair, the money, the crossover success. These days it's not just a matter of white but of how much that has changed and screwed all of us up, that colonization, capitalism. We can start at the very beginning, Joe Jackson beat his children, he thought it was right, that doesn't come from Africa in the primitive villages kids were nurtured well, that comes from slavery. My point is as Malcolm X said shortly before his death "the white definition is not THE definition". | |
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Serena said: mozfonky said: You know, you're white, your opinion is null and void to me. Beyond even me arguing with. Look at history, facts are facts. BZZZZT!! Wrong conclusion! Why the hell do you think you know one thing about my heritage anyway? Cuz you are either white or someone who is brainwashed to think white. bye baby. | |
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At any rate, these things will all be debated and written about for many decades to come. I don't need to get so deep into it. | |
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Timmy84 said: Like I said pages back, some of you like to argue...over nothing. Can't you at least listen to the music I posted two pages ago?
I've been constantly listening to that stuff for 6 years. I actually like talking about this stuff. I'm not one of those fans that get angry at the media for discussing it either. On the Debbie thing, yes he paid her to not be in their lives. But I don't see how thats malicious, she is not the woman he wanted to spend his life with raising children. She was just a surrogate that he knew | |
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mozfonky said: Serena said: Yeah, because the biggest bloodsucker in his life, his father, is an evil white man, right?! Geezus, nothing like bringing some blatant bigotry to the discussion, good job! You know, you're white, your opinion is null and void to me. Beyond even me arguing with. Look at history, facts are facts. I'm sorry but regardless of colour of one's skin, such outlandish racial disrespect is not warranted. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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mozfonky said: Arnotts said: Erm, both accusers were not white [Edited 7/13/09 21:27pm] erm, Bob Sneddon, Maureen Orth and all the evil fucks who pushed for this to happen were all white. As is the horrible philosophy of capitalism which none of us can escape from. The sooner guys like Mike realize that these people have to be miserable people, the sooner they will stop worrying about being around them and doing everything to make them happy. Including getting a million plastic surgeries, the hair, the money, the crossover success. These days it's not just a matter of white but of how much that has changed and screwed all of us up, that colonization, capitalism. We can start at the very beginning, Joe Jackson beat his children, he thought it was right, that doesn't come from Africa in the primitive villages kids were nurtured well, that comes from slavery. My point is as Malcolm X said shortly before his death "the white definition is not THE definition". You know even though I’m white, I understand where you’re coming from. I know there are alot of white racists like tom sneddon who hate Michael and although it was expected that you have to take an allegation of child molestation seriously I do believe his hatred for Michael was one of the motivating factors for being as into the case as he was. But for as many white racists as there are who hate Michael, there are ten times as many white fans that supported him, like myself. | |
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Swa said: mozfonky said: You know, you're white, your opinion is null and void to me. Beyond even me arguing with. Look at history, facts are facts. I'm sorry but regardless of colour of one's skin, such outlandish racial disrespect is not warranted. Swa White people are out of touch and hypersensitive, that is why I pay no attention to those kinds of statements. As one of our best social critics Paul Mooney has said, "White people kill me with their sensitivity" and "I got over being called a n%**^ you'll get over it". that's where I generally leave it. Anyway, I hate making those statements because i know some dingbat will take offense at them. Call someone a bigot to hide the fact that things are fucked up in this country and that shows in our heroes and villains the most. Anyway, this will be my final words on the topic. I mean, it's just like americans to take a whole statement of opinions and get offended by the lightening rod of race, it only proves how far we haven't come. | |
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And seeing Maureen Orth's statement the day AFTER Mike died only reaffirmed my notion that here was a miserable, evil woman. Those kind of people will do anything they can to spread the misery. Truth is, people get molested all day everyday, if she cared so much about that particular issue there are better ways to deal with the problem rather than focusing on one "predator". All the Nancy Grace's and Greta Susterns leave me suspicious because they use another's misfortune to make themselves more famous. It reeks of oppurtunism and that really makes me doubt the integrity and sincerity of these people. Anyway, as I stated earlier, it's all just so sickening to me. Fascinating yes, but discouraging and sickening how low people can go. | |
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mozfonky said: And seeing Maureen Orth's statement the day AFTER Mike died only reaffirmed my notion that here was a miserable, evil woman. Those kind of people will do anything they can to spread the misery. Truth is, people get molested all day everyday, if she cared so much about that particular issue there are better ways to deal with the problem rather than focusing on one "predator". All the Nancy Grace's and Greta Susterns leave me suspicious because they use another's misfortune to make themselves more famous. It reeks of oppurtunism and that really makes me doubt the integrity and sincerity of these people. Anyway, as I stated earlier, it's all just so sickening to me. Fascinating yes, but discouraging and sickening how low people can go.
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Timmy84 said: Like I said pages back, some of you like to argue...over nothing. Can't you at least listen to the music I posted two pages ago?
And you are quite correct, the world has lost someone who only now are they seeming to recognize as the dark, foreboding genius that he really was. Maybe in death he will be recognized as more than a cheesy popstar as everyone will look back at the depth underneath the shine. Billy Jean was subversive as hell, much of his later work which got overlooked was better or just as good as his Thriller material. His legacy (and as an Elvis fanatic this pains me) will be Like Elvis' on steroids. Everything will be huger, the good the bad and the ugly. There will never be another and he now belongs to the ages. [Edited 7/13/09 22:47pm] | |
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