DesireeNevermind said: Lisa Marie said that she and Michael consumated their marriage. She has no reason to lie and no reason to stay married for 2 years to a man that aint fucking her. She had her own money and her own fame and was plenty attractive. Michael may not have been the most amorous of men but I don't believe he was asexual or homosexual. Maybe bicurious and into kids but even that I find hard to believe. I think he was just a kid himself and people had a problem with it.
That last trial was nothing but a failed attempt by a money grubbing Ho and her brat to get money from MJ. If MJ was gonna do a child then McCauley would have gotten violated. IF MJ was going to do a dude then said dude would have told everyone in the world for the money alone. There have been no homo allegations and no other child molestation allegations. Now is the time for folk to come out if it were really true but they won't cuz the lie will be immediately spotted and the charge discredited. i heard that lisa marie said michael was really kinky in bed plus he liked getting it standing up. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: suga10 said: Grace was like a motherly figure to those kids. [Edited 7/13/09 13:10pm] meanwhile he paid Debbie Rowe to bow out of the picture and god knows about the mother of blanket. Michael Jackson's deliberate denial of a mother to his kids if fucked up and no amount of good fatherhood should overshadow the fact that it was totally evil of him to do that to his kids. . [Edited 7/13/09 13:16pm] Don't expect anything like a sane response to this point from the group of deaf and blind souls we affectionately call..... MJ loons. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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Timmy84 said: Coroner says cause of Jackson's death could be revealed next week
BY Nancy Dillon Daily News West Coast Bureau Chief Monday, July 13th 2009, 2:13 PM A Los Angeles county coroner says reports on Michael Jackson should be in next week and will possibly solve the mystery surrounding his death. LOS ANGELES - The mystery of Michael Jackson's sudden death could be solved as early as next week, investigators told the Daily News. "Hopefully we'll have something to report at the end of next week," Ed Winter, assistant chief coroner for Los Angeles County told the Daily News Monday. "We're still on track." The official coroner's report should help resolve speculation that's become as dizzying as the King of Pop's signature spins. Jackson, 50, went into cardiac arrest on June 25 after his personal physician reported finding him unconscious in bed with only a faint pulse. Investigators later found prescription drugs and a personal stash of the surgery-strength sedative Diprivan, known generically as propofol, at Jackson's rented Bel-Air mansion. A registered nurse told the Associated Press that Jackson begged her for Diprivan earlier this year to treat insomnia. Jackson's dad Joe Jackson told ABC he suspects "foul play." "I was worried about his health because all the shows," Joe Jackson said in an interview excerpt aired Monday on "Good Morning America." He said his son told him that he had agreed to only 10 shows, not the 50 shows that promoter AEG Live eventually scheduled. AEG Live vigorously disputes that claim, saying Michael originally agreed to 31 shows and then extended the run to 50 based on overwhelming demand. "Michael himself [said] that it was important that we spaced the additional shows out over an extended period of time and that we would rent an estate for him and his family so that they would not be 'trapped' in a hotel suite while they were in London," AEG Live CEO Randy Phillips said in a statement Monday. "He told us he was also motivated by the opportunity to establish a record to be entered into the Guinness Book of World Records for the run he was about to embark on," Phillips said. Phillips earlier told the News that Michael Jackson passed a physical in February with "flying colors" and appeared "energetic and engaged" during a three-hour rehearsal the night before his death. http://www.nydailynews.co...LAX5lQHU&D AHEM! | |
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midnightmover said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: meanwhile he paid Debbie Rowe to bow out of the picture and god knows about the mother of blanket. Michael Jackson's deliberate denial of a mother to his kids if fucked up and no amount of good fatherhood should overshadow the fact that it was totally evil of him to do that to his kids. . [Edited 7/13/09 13:16pm] Don't expect anything like a sane response to this point from the group of deaf and blind souls we affectionately call..... MJ loons. Oh, I know they live on the river in Egypt. Just sayin 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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midnightmover said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: meanwhile he paid Debbie Rowe to bow out of the picture and god knows about the mother of blanket. Michael Jackson's deliberate denial of a mother to his kids if fucked up and no amount of good fatherhood should overshadow the fact that it was totally evil of him to do that to his kids. . [Edited 7/13/09 13:16pm] Don't expect anything like a sane response to this point from the group of deaf and blind souls we affectionately call..... MJ loons. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: midnightmover said: Don't expect anything like a sane response to this point from the group of deaf and blind souls we affectionately call..... MJ loons. Oh, I know they live on the river in Egypt. Just sayin ignorant minds think alike | |
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Michael was not ready to do 50 shows. Anyone can see how out of it he looked in
that press conference at the O2. He was addicted to prescription drugs. Michael looked like he didn't even know where he was going when he came out of that Bus on his way to the O2 press conference. He was late 2 hours as well. Everyone knows how badly painkillers was affecting his health at the end of the Dangerous Tour in 1993. Randy Phillips is so full of shit | |
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suga10 said: Michael was not ready to do 50 shows. Anyone can see how out of it he looked in
that press conference at the O2. He was addicted to prescription drugs. Michael looked like he didn't even know where he was going when he came out of that Bus on his way to the O2 press conference. He was late 2 hours as well. Everyone knows how badly painkillers was affecting his health at the end of the Dangerous Tour in 1993. Randy Phillips is so full of shit was michael late a lot during the earlier years or always on time? | |
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I swear, some of y'all just love to argue... y'all were asking about toxicology reports and shit and I posted something but y'all arguing about Mike being gay or straight, cut that shit out! | |
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suga10 said: Michael was not ready to do 50 shows. Anyone can see how out of it he looked in
that press conference at the O2. He was addicted to prescription drugs. Michael looked like he didn't even know where he was going when he came out of that Bus on his way to the O2 press conference. He was late 2 hours as well. Everyone knows how badly painkillers was affecting his health at the end of the Dangerous Tour in 1993. Randy Phillips is so full of shit we all know that michael operates on cpt time. 5 years between albums..hello? | |
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Timmy84 said: I swear, some of y'all just love to argue... y'all were asking about toxicology reports and shit and I posted something but y'all arguing about Mike being gay or straight, cut that shit out!
yeah where did that start and how the hell I get caught up in it. the org is crazy.... | |
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Can those of us who knew he's never be able to handle 50 concerts get an apology from the haters? 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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DesireeNevermind said: Timmy84 said: I swear, some of y'all just love to argue... y'all were asking about toxicology reports and shit and I posted something but y'all arguing about Mike being gay or straight, cut that shit out!
yeah where did that start and how the hell I get caught up in it. the org is crazy.... Yeah it's nuts. Hell if there was any other thread, I'd destroy it but since this is respect to MJ, I'm gonna leave it alone...for now...or not. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: suga10 said: Michael was not ready to do 50 shows. Anyone can see how out of it he looked in
that press conference at the O2. He was addicted to prescription drugs. Michael looked like he didn't even know where he was going when he came out of that Bus on his way to the O2 press conference. He was late 2 hours as well. Everyone knows how badly painkillers was affecting his health at the end of the Dangerous Tour in 1993. Randy Phillips is so full of shit we all know that michael operates on cpt time. 5 years between albums..hello? I understand the long gaps between album. However Michael has become awfully sluggish in recent years in terms of his productivity. Back then he was the Energizer bunny. | |
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Timmy84 said: I swear, some of y'all just love to argue... y'all were asking about toxicology reports and shit and I posted something but y'all arguing about Mike being gay or straight, cut that shit out!
Which is exactly why this two sticky bullshit is such a bad idea. We simply can't adequately discuss MJ in these narrow confines. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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suga10 said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: we all know that michael operates on cpt time. 5 years between albums..hello? I understand the long gaps between album. However Michael has become awfully sluggish in recent years in terms of his productivity. Back then he was the Energizer bunny. I don´t know what you´re all complaining about. He had kids and had to deal with the stupid allegations, I wonder how creative would you be during that time. I´d be happy to be alive. "When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all." | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: suga10 said: Grace was like a motherly figure to those kids. [Edited 7/13/09 13:10pm] meanwhile he paid Debbie Rowe to bow out of the picture and god knows about the mother of blanket. Michael Jackson's deliberate denial of a mother to his kids if fucked up and no amount of good fatherhood should overshadow the fact that it was totally evil of him to do that to his kids. . [Edited 7/13/09 13:16pm] it possible that after knowing her awhile, he realized that she was no good? the fact that she TOOK a payout might support that. maybe that's all she was looking for to begin with? | |
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midnightmover said: Timmy84 said: I swear, some of y'all just love to argue... y'all were asking about toxicology reports and shit and I posted something but y'all arguing about Mike being gay or straight, cut that shit out!
Which is exactly why this two sticky bullshit is such a bad idea. We simply can't adequately discuss MJ in these narrow confines. Yeah maybe closing some threads was a bad idea after all. People rather argue than discuss. Whatever happened to orgnoting y'all's arguments? | |
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dag said: suga10 said: I understand the long gaps between album. However Michael has become awfully sluggish in recent years in terms of his productivity. Back then he was the Energizer bunny. I don´t know what you´re all complaining about. He had kids and had to deal with the stupid allegations, I wonder how creative would you be during that time. I´d be happy to be alive. And besides the dude had to deal with a BILLION issues and shit. | |
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dag said: suga10 said: I understand the long gaps between album. However Michael has become awfully sluggish in recent years in terms of his productivity. Back then he was the Energizer bunny. I don´t know what you´re all complaining about. He had kids and had to deal with the stupid allegations, I wonder how creative would you be during that time. I´d be happy to be alive. Even if Michael had children,and has had troubled phases of his life. There's no doubt in mind that painkillers destroyed Michael Jackson. Anybody who resorts to prolonged drug use for such long period of time is clearly troubled.It takes a toll on person's mind and body after some point. [Edited 7/13/09 13:48pm] | |
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dag said: suga10 said: I understand the long gaps between album. However Michael has become awfully sluggish in recent years in terms of his productivity. Back then he was the Energizer bunny. I don´t know what you´re all complaining about. He had kids and had to deal with the stupid allegations, I wonder how creative would you be during that time. I´d be happy to be alive. exactly. When was he supposed to record in 2004 and 2005? He did not even know if he would become a free man. This last allegations broke his neck, I assume. No Neverland, no kids and more and more pills and stuff. | |
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WUDDENT NUTHIN CRAZY ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON, WHAT'S CRAZY IS THE ORGSHIT THAT'S GOIN ON RYTE NAH!
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I'm starting to wonder if his ongoing drug use might have been a factor in his vocal deterioration. It's impossible to say for sure, but it could have been part of the problem. I've never seen anyone else lose it as bad as him. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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DesireeNevermind said: WUDDENT NUTHIN CRAZY ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON, WHAT'S CRAZY IS THE ORGSHIT THAT'S GOIN ON RYTE NAH!
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: suga10 said: Grace was like a motherly figure to those kids. [Edited 7/13/09 13:10pm] meanwhile he paid Debbie Rowe to bow out of the picture and god knows about the mother of blanket. Michael Jackson's deliberate denial of a mother to his kids if fucked up and no amount of good fatherhood should overshadow the fact that it was totally evil of him to do that to his kids. . [Edited 7/13/09 13:16pm] Hell, Michael Jackson was their mother. It's a father that they didn't have. But seriously, I don't see him paying her off as any different than a couple who adopts a child and doesn't want the natural mother coming around confusing things. But I do see her as a gold digger who will now try to get those kids away from Katherine in hopes that the Jacksons will pay her off if she goes away. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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midnightmover said: I'm starting to wonder if his ongoing drug use might have been a factor in his vocal deterioration. It's impossible to say for sure, but it could have been part of the problem. I've never seen anyone else lose it as bad as him.
Him not being able 2 breathe thru that pencil like nose may also have something 2 do with it. [Edited 7/13/09 13:57pm] | |
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(I deleted this post due to it being a double post. This thread is too damn long and the computer takes forever to go through after I hit "send") [Edited 7/13/09 14:03pm] Andy is a four letter word. | |
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Anyone read this. Michae's insomnia might have been a result of his addiction.
http://www.cliffsidemalib...addiction/ Pain killer addiction by itself is bad enough. Habitual abuse of drugs like morphine, codeine, and oxycodone turns pain killer addicts into mere whispers of the people they used to be. Pain killer addiction endangers lives and livelihoods; it drives families apart and leaves pain killer addicts incapable of caring about anything other than their self-destructive pain killer habits.
But that’s not even the worst of it. Pain killer addiction is linked to a wide range of deleterious side effects, all of them fraught with devastating implications for pain killer addicts and the people who care about them. Chronic abuse of drugs like morphine, codeine, and oxycodone has been linked to irritability, insomnia, physical weakness, tremors, loss of appetite, gastrointestinal irregularity, and steep declines in sexual desire. Pain killer and prescription drug addiction is also known to cause respiratory dysfunction, and pain killer abuse among pregnant woman has shown to substantially increase the risk of pre- and postnatal complications. More seriously still, pain killer addiction bears with it the very real danger of overdose and death. Because sustained opioid abuse is known to dull the body’s natural opioid response mechanisms, chronic pain killer addicts find themselves having to ingest larger and larger pain killer dosages in order to achieve the desired high. The corollary, of course, is that chronic pain killer addicts are thus acutely susceptible to overdose, and the National Institute for Drug Abuse has found that prescription drug abusers account for a startlingly high percentage of annual drug-related emergency room visits in the United States. Cliffside Malibu, everything from detox, substance treatment, to sober livingPut simply: Pain killer addiction is not a thing to be taken lightly. Chronic pain killer abuse ravages the body and cripples the mind. And, tragically, chronic pain killer abuse can kill you. If you or someone you love is a victim of pain killer addiction, you can’t afford not to act. [Edited 7/13/09 14:01pm] [Edited 7/13/09 14:02pm] | |
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suga10 said: Anyone read this. Michae's insomnia might have been a result of his addiction.
http://www.cliffsidemalib...addiction/ Pain killer addiction by itself is bad enough. Habitual abuse of drugs like morphine, codeine, and oxycodone turns pain killer addicts into mere whispers of the people they used to be. Pain killer addiction endangers lives and livelihoods; it drives families apart and leaves pain killer addicts incapable of caring about anything other than their self-destructive pain killer habits.
But that’s not even the worst of it. Pain killer addiction is linked to a wide range of deleterious side effects, all of them fraught with devastating implications for pain killer addicts and the people who care about them. Chronic abuse of drugs like morphine, codeine, and oxycodone has been linked to irritability, insomnia, physical weakness, tremors, loss of appetite, gastrointestinal irregularity, and steep declines in sexual desire. Pain killer and prescription drug addiction is also known to cause respiratory dysfunction, and pain killer abuse among pregnant woman has shown to substantially increase the risk of pre- and postnatal complications. More seriously still, pain killer addiction bears with it the very real danger of overdose and death. Because sustained opioid abuse is known to dull the body’s natural opioid response mechanisms, chronic pain killer addicts find themselves having to ingest larger and larger pain killer dosages in order to achieve the desired high. The corollary, of course, is that chronic pain killer addicts are thus acutely susceptible to overdose, and the National Institute for Drug Abuse has found that prescription drug abusers account for a startlingly high percentage of annual drug-related emergency room visits in the United States. Cliffside Malibu, everything from detox, substance treatment, to sober livingPut simply: Pain killer addiction is not a thing to be taken lightly. Chronic pain killer abuse ravages the body and cripples the mind. And, tragically, chronic pain killer abuse can kill you. If you or someone you love is a victim of pain killer addiction, you can’t afford not to act. [Edited 7/13/09 14:01pm] [Edited 7/13/09 14:02pm] yep, him and Heath ledger had major insomnia and took drugs to sleep. | |
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suga10 said: Michael was not ready to do 50 shows. Anyone can see how out of it he looked in
that press conference at the O2. He was addicted to prescription drugs. Michael looked like he didn't even know where he was going when he came out of that Bus on his way to the O2 press conference. He was late 2 hours as well. Everyone knows how badly painkillers was affecting his health at the end of the Dangerous Tour in 1993. Randy Phillips is so full of shit I remember as I was watching this announcement live, I had three simultaneous reactions: 1) Hooray, it's Michael. 2) LOL! That title is brilliant! 3) What?! The songs "fans" want to hear/see? That means he's gonna try to do all of his difficult choreography from past performances. NOOOOO! "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD | |
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