HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Iam leaving out Quincy LOL. I know he was huge in the 80's, of course he was, but Iam talking about pop stars Its cool Quincy is there aswell. I love that guy.

kibbles said:

He won't Understand, Aging has already affected his brain.

seeingvoices12 said:

oh damn that is too cold blooded.

The memorial service was very respectable-fitting of a king May Michael rest in peace and may God keep his children. Looking at the pic posted earlier of MJ and Prince Michael II-he looks just like him as a child All of his kids look like him. I wish people would stop saying they are not his kids It's really sad that MJ had to die for folks to see his human side-he was a dad who loved his kids.

seeingvoices12 said:

i still can't get over it, though. why would he think mj would be lying about something like that? couldn't mj have shown quincy the proof? did quincy just not want to look? and cold, dismissive, nasty way that he maligned mj *and* his kids is what really gets me.

Michael Jackson's family were stunned that Diana Ross didn't attend his memorial service.

nurseV said:

like i've been saying for YEARS those children are not white. they may have looked white when they were little but the black genes are finally catching up

cdcgold said:

when they were babies their complexions were more caucasian(not meant to offend), but has they have grown you can see that they are biracial children-you can see MJ in everyone of them

http://www.youtube.com/wa...B9T7mxRmAs

Interesting how Michael allegedly said "rap is dead" when Quincy tried to hook MJ up with Run DMC for the "bad" album, calling Quincy out of touch. Then of course, Michael hired a few rappers for "dangerous" LOL.

He sounds abit bitter that Michael dropped him, heck, who wouldn't be? But credit to Quincy for speaking his mind and not sugar coating....

...Whilst I loved MJ's work post Quincy Jones, theres no question Quincy, along with Mike to a lesser extent, masterminded that famous trilogy of albums they did together. The production and songs in general on those 3 albums are insanely good. The arrangements, staff writers, mixers etc... made those MJ compostions come alive. Without Quincy, the albums wouldn't sound half as good....

....No one else woulda really done that for Mike. Those 3 albums are as much about Quincy's arrangement and production gimmicks, along with his staff writers, mixers, engineers etc... as they are about Mj's songs and input in general.
[Edited 7/8/09 18:57pm]

Klein is on Larry King right now.

He's helping MJ out a lot by talking about his lupus and Vitiligo condition.

suga10 said:

thesexofit said:

in a nutshell, this is the reason mj had to leave quincy.

if memory serves, quincy has said that mj was mostly at the helm for bad. further, although i have not heard it, other posters have stated that the demo for 'don't stop 'til you get enough' was practically indistinguishable from the finished product. that was *all* mj.

finally, those of us who remember the jacksons, remember that mj and his brothers did some pretty good stuff on their own.

i'm not saying that they weren't a great team a la taupin and john, or the beatles with george martin (?), but everyone puts most of mj's success down to quincy, exclusively, and mj knew he had to move away before he was seen as merely a producer's product - like his sister is seen to some extent with jam and lewis. but i'm not sure he was successful since most people hold your opinion.

Those kids are not from a black /white couple I grew up a few with mixed blood and they look nothing like these kids

kibbles said:

Yeah, I know its a common thing to say MJ was nothing without Quincy, but Iam not saying that really. I think that Quincy taught him so much about the studio, and also about having the best people around you to help you at all times and that its hard to ignore how brilliant the work Quincy and his team did on those 3 albums...

...No question Michael was involved, particually on his own compositions, and as you said, particually on "bad", but Quincy's production tricks and his knack for picking great songs not written by Jackson (Rod Temperton, the guys behind "human nature" "man in the mirror" etc..), were almost second to none. Pretty much everything Q did for/with MJ was second to none! No wonder Quincy musta been abit bemused when MJ allegedly didn't want to work with him anymore. Would of been great if they had continued working together to some extent, but hey, history's history!

That "rap is dead" comment by Michael reminds me of what Prince musta been thinking at that time aswell LOL. And both got involved in some extent to rap. I guess alot of people/press thought rap was a passing fad? Quincy was right though, and he even put rappers on "back on the block".

nurseV said:

Please stop fooling yourselves!

asg said:

there is a mixed race man working in my office with the same color and textured hair as prince and with as light a complexion. the only way we would possibly know he's black is because he has told us, referring to himself as a 'swirl baby' (black colloquialism for mixed race.)

so put a sock in it - you don't know everything.

midiscover said:

I see MJ in their features-eyebrows, Prince II nose and I see MJ all over Paris.

asg said:

I have mixed children and they range in color from brown to whiter than I am.

nurseV said:

Eyebrows?

midiscover said:

Is that funny?

Is Siedah Garrett dead?

ladygirl99 said:

i would say that by the way Paris was with Janet that the kids would perfer to live with Janet over the other brothers and sisters if it came down to it. Though Rebbie would be a good choice.

DesireeNevermind said:

thought she would have did a song at the service

nurseV said:

somebody told me she was dead and then she wasn't at the service. omg i hope she aint dead.

nurseV said:

I didn't know people can inherit eyebrows
Besides didn't MJ shape his?

Anyways,



**runs out of thread**

i feel like crying.

i hope these kids are michael's bio kids though, even though so many say they aren't and I've said they don't look anything like the clan I still hope they are his because then no one can ever take them away from the family. and FUCK DEBBIE ROWE AGAIN - bitch ass dead beat mother.

Those children are gorgeous and Blanket is so adorable. I just want to give him a big hug. He looks so sad and scared.

PurpleCharm said:

doesnt' he? he looks like he is not understanding it all. he looks frightened and withdrawn. poor baby.